Former Bernie supporter here, and I don't know who the fuck to vote for. Neither choice seems appealing to me. I'm thinking about just abstaining but that's nearly as bad as voting for either candidate.
On one hand you have Clinton whose policies I more align with(Remember I am a former Bernie supporter), but I can barely fucking stomach the thought of voting for her corrupt ass. If anyone thought she was corrupt to the core before this election, it's solidified into cold hard concrete after all the controversies this year. The only reason I can see voting for her is for the supreme court nominations.
On the other hand you have Trump, who has the signs of a narcissist and habitual liar, and has conservative views that don't necessarily line up with my own and I personally think that appointing conservative supreme court justices could set the country back in the long term. I don't think Trump has any real clue what he's going to do in office which makes him a complete wildcard. There's even the question if Trump is merely putting up a conservative act for votes, then swap to a more neutral or democrat orientation like he was in the past once he gets in office. Trump might not be wearing the logos of 50 different corporations on his suit, but he's still witholden to his own greed and desire to see his own businesses grow.
Both candidates truly make me lose any sort of enthusiasm for this election - I feel like I'm making a poor choice in either regard. I know with either we'll be stuck with them for 8 years - Americans are too complacent to vote for someone new in 4 years.
Look at it differently. Do you want to vote for the status quo of bad policies? or take a risk that could be boom or bust?
Asher Brown
Whats your position on immigration and trade?
Hillary will almost certainly open our boarders, pass TITP, and work towards the North American Union that Obama has layed the groundwork for.
Evan Perez
Do you want 4 years of a old witch calling you a loser basement dweller and forcing you to join the "National Service Reserve" or do you want to vote for a meme.
Daniel Walker
If Hillary gets into office the media and congress will look the other way has the corruption runs rampant.
If Trump gets into office the media and congress will question everything.
Ironically Trump is the "safe" choice.
Kevin Nelson
Vote Trump and stop being a faggot.
If you can't betray your "principles" vote Jill Stein, faggot.
Hunter Williams
How would any sane person vote for hillary is beyond me.
Isaac Perez
I legitimately bad for you. A lot of idiots here thing Bernie was a Shillary plant from the beginning who appealed to massively in-debt college bums to crowdfund his opponent's campaign.
But in reality, the DNC put a gun to his head and forced him to endorse Clinton.
Even as a trump supporter, I can acknowledge how pants-on-head retarded he is. But Hillary has more skeletons in her closet than the fucking Paris Catacombs. Her campaign is funded by the slimiest elite bankers in the world that Bernie ripped on in the primaries, who not so subtly pulled strings to get her to the position where she is now. And if that's not enough, people who speak out against her bullshit have a habit of dissappearing....
I'd rather have an idiot in office than a snake.
Adam Rodriguez
Stop basing your political choices on South Park episodes. Trump has 500+ successful businesses, he knows what he is doing.
Easton Diaz
Take a testosterone supplement and vote Trump you faggot.
Brandon Cooper
You're doing a lot more long-term damage by giving in.
If all of the Bernie supporters submit, why would the Democratic Party ever change and align with your views? >beat your wife >she comes back and gets back to the dishes >repeat
If HILLARY scoops up all of Bernie's supporters, then it will be evident that you are party loyalists who stand for nothing. You will never be given concessions and the party will move further to the center/right to pick up more independents.
I hope you will join us on the Trump team, but for your own sake, at least move to Jill Stein if you feel this way.
Tyler Cox
> Fucking this.
Alot of people around my age (millennials) never hopped on to the Trump hate meme until south park started bashing him. The more and more I went online I realized that this was true for young people outside of my immediate local peer group. Then the Young Turks followed suit and Sanders gained momentum.
Jace Rivera
Corruption vs lame duck
Also 1PBTID....sage
Hunter Lee
>Former Bernie supporter here
Jonathan Martinez
> A lot of idiots here thing Bernie was a Shillary plant from the beginning who appealed to massively in-debt college bums to crowdfund his opponent's campaign.
Citation needed. I don't think anyone thought that. We just said Bernie was going to get rekt by Hilldawg.
And he did.
In the most spectacular manner.
Julian Richardson
What state do you live in?
Mason Williams
trump presidency = 50% chance of greatness clinton presidency = 98% chance of ww3
I know what box I'm checking.
Oliver Peterson
America will remain American if you vote for Trump. Hillary will give us a new supreme court that will ruin the constitution; ensuring things can never go back to the way they were. She'll probably even sign away our national sovereignty at some point.
Alexander Morgan
>that fucking image holy shit that good
Benjamin Wilson
simple do you want all the political BS hidden or public?
Trump it would be public and Hillary it would all just be covered up.
Juan Gray
this. le free helicopter rides man is my favourite
Isaac Lewis
Just vote for Trump because it's going to be hilarious
Ryan Morris
I thought about this the other day.
Stop. Clear your mind of everything you think you know. There is no presidential race.
This isn't a political election, ignore the candidates.
This is a media war.
The MSM is pushing "facts" and the alternative media is pushing "facts"
They are both full of shit. The question is really, which media do you want to rule the US for the next 8 years? If Trump wins, CNN, Fox, MSNBC are all done. It will be Infowars, RT and YouTube vids taking over. It's going to be a huge hit to media.
Isaac Brown
Go trump or third party. youtube.com/watch?v=tDJgyq4MH-M Hillary thinks you're a basement dweller who doesn't understand politics. She clearly doesn't give a shit what you think
Bentley Kelly
If you do more research on Trump, you'll realize that he isn't even close to being as bad as everyone makes him out to be. Is he the perfect candidate? Not at all, but if I had the same political views as I did two years ago, I would have been a Sanders supporter too. I hated money in politics, and I still do, alot of my peers jumped on the Sanders train for that reason (and because they wanted pot legalized). When the election came around and people went to Sanders, I thought it was pretty ironic that a candidate that had that the perfect circumstance to self fund his campaign and not be a puppet to his donors was hated by the same people who complain so passionately about corruption in politics. Economic and social views aside, a candidate who isn't acting in the interest of his donors is bound to act in the interest of the little guy in some way, and lay the groundwork for better candidates to run in the future.
Can you really say anything in the political system will change if the Clintons, who make a living off dirty politics, get into office again?
Michael Sanders
Trump fags actually believe this
Isaac Sanchez
>self funding his campaign You mean enriching himself and his companies with your donations
Landon Harris
Look at it this way: The setup was putting Trump on one ticket because he's so repulsive people would have to vote for Killary. That's clearly the case. Don't you have a duty to try and shut them down? Voting in Trump is a fucking hilarious way to stymie their plans.
Everyone knows something is wrong in this country, everyone knows the media lies to them, and is owned by a few people who have meetings with the people who own the companies who produce bombs and fighter jets. The whole shit is orchestrated against us. Everyone knows this.
It's plain as day that when the media lies, and the media tells you to vote for Clinton, that you should really be voting against Clinton.
Austin Baker
You know you can just write Bernie Sanders in the ticket right
Benjamin Rogers
Also, to touch on the Supreme Court issue, Obama put in 3 left wingers. The Court needs to stay balanced so nothing gets done, it's the way the whole US government is set up, by the founders. Trump needs to appoint the next judges.
Also, clearly Obama put in crooked Loretta Lynch and crooked James Comey to facilitate Hillary's planned crimes. They didn't plan for Comey to have to give her immunity so soon, and if she gets in, there will be a lot more immunities given out. They're all crooks. Trump just an arrogant asshole.
Brandon Baker
You could vote for a candidate you actually like you fucking dumbass
Eli Taylor
Way to miss the point.
Andrew Perez
>never started bashing trump until south park Good lord man get your fucking head checked
Vote for Trump if you agree with his ideals, sure, but christ grow a backbone
I could never vote for him, he refuses to firmly state his stance on the issues.
Good god it's just a continuation of the Bush republican madness. Republicans seem so focused on electing a president they can have a beer with, to the point of openly rewarding a lack of professionalism or respect for the process.
Harambe 2016
Landon Lopez
Your choice is a literal criminal who sells weapon deals to countries in the middle east who donate to her ""charity"" foundation, while feverishly trying to take guns away from her own country. This candidate also has a list of 30+ well-trained body guards who keep dying in freak accidents.
Or a successful businessman who occasionally posts stupid shit on twitter.
No, 4 declared bankruptcies over an entire lifetime and billions of dollars of wealth is not a big deal. Bankruptcy is a heavily stigmatized term.
Alexander Adams
This is America, we don't vote for candidates, we vote against them. Clinton is worse.
Logan Green
>but he's still witholden >witholden >with >holden
Michael Jackson
Do you really want Hillary in when she said Bernie supporters sleep in their parents basement?
Henry Mitchell
You'd be surprised my friend
The programming started decades ago
Jeremiah Bell
this. Vote third party. If anything its an act of protest.
Or you could hop on the Trump Train and ride it to victory for lelz
Grayson Roberts
Just stay at home and don't vote then.
Tell other Bernouts to do the same.
Zachary Edwards
>Hurr durr Im a 2 party cuck Vote third party, get them national funding, and pray for the future. Your vote doesnt actually matter.
Parker Lopez
>1 post by this id
Jeremiah Powell
No i got it. You apparently missed it. He HAD the opportunity to self fund his campaign what with his massive wealth. He even said that he would. But then in reality he enriched himself, his companies and his kids with the money every day Joes donated to his campaign. It pretty much sums up Trump. He's rich. He lies. His enriches himself even further (like he needs the money!) by stepping on the little guy, pissing on their back and telling them its raining.
Jose Martin
hillary clinton is a warhawk conservative masquerading as a liberal. she will pass TPP, increase immigration, and likely go to war with russia in some fashion.
donald trump is a left-leaning centrist masquerading as a conservative. he is very eager to implement universal healthcare and gun purchase limitations.
Ayden Long
>implying Hillary wont pick a moderate for the SC and nothing will happen ever
Oliver White
The solution is for you and your fellow bernie supporters to stay home in protest this election.
Aiden Brooks
If you can't see it then you are retarded please abstain
Let me break it down
Do you like endless war, the Enron chamber of the highest echelon of society to the detriment of us all, the cullosion between big corporations and governments, rampant corruption, the active destruction of western culture and people, limitless immigration, lowering standards of living?
The vote hillary, she represents continuing the same leaders we've had since the late 1980's
Do you want somebody who is advocating peace, tax reform, social programs that help responsible families, patriotism and the death of pc nonsense
Vote trump
Jace Jenkins
Jesup Christ
All this is moot
Hillary will hand the net to the UN who have no provisions of free speech
End of Fucking story
We are done without the Internet
If you really think having leftist destroy your constitution in the supreme court
I don't think there is anything anyone can say to convince you You've lost your mind already
Xavier Reed
>we came we saw he died LAUGHS This should invalidate her from holding office alone.
Austin Gonzalez
lmao when people call trump a "liar"
like no shit he was in business, marketing is all lies and all businss has a marketing side plus he was also on tv,showmanship is basically lying
but hillary commited fraud to voters, she stole the money from haiti, millions of dollars, peopl there live on fucking tents with no water or electricity thanks to her
like people, have some sort of common sense, learn to see things in a hierarchical order
the lies of a showman and a businessman are many many orders of magnitude less severe than the lies of electorade fraud and stealing from homeless poor people
and who gives a shit about what a candidates parrots with their policies? you know as a fact that hillary hates poor people and regular people, she has shown it with actions mny times
stop being retarded hypnotized sheep and accept that she is the literally hitler monster of the election, not trump
Parker Hernandez
>Hillary is the embodiment of evil >Trump is just as bad, but at least he seems like a military noninterventionist >Johnson supports no fly no buy, TPP, FairTax, etc >Stein has no stance on any meaningful issues >Castle is a literally who among literally whos and the Constitution Party cannot into separation of church and state
So do I vote for Trump in hopes of avoiding foreign wars, Johnson in favor of reforming the two-party system, Castle for his mostly reasonable political stances or abstain because it doesn't actually matter who I vote for anyway?
Leo Robinson
Let's put it this way. If Hillary wins, it validates the shady tactics that the DNC used to fuck Bernie over. If they are validated, it means these tactics will be used again to stifle the popular candidate in favor of the establishment candidate.
The only way to lessen the chances of them screwing you over next election is to punish them. The only punishment that will work is if Hillary loses.
So, Hillary must lose or your next "Bernie" will be treated just as unfairly.
Mason Carter
Vote trump and don't be a stupid cuck
Ryder Butler
Vote for Johnson. And when people ask you about "free college" and "muh roads" you say: I am a single issue voter, and that issue is WEED. This is how change gets done: When both candidates notice they are losing votes because of a single issue, it becomes a prisoners dilemma to see who switch first. This is what happened with the pirate party in sweden. Saying stuff like: I am a loyal democrat and I am a loyal republican just tell yours leaders they literally can drive a stick upon your ass and you will thank them for that. Swing voters, in all their stupidity, are the ones that always hold all the power, and are the ones which candidates always listen too: those without principles of any kind hold the reigns of democracy.
John Collins
A vote for Trump is a vote to burn down the system, it doesn't matter if you think he is being honest or not.
Alexander Cooper
This. What kind of idiot to you have to be to vote for a self-proclaimed socialist
William Campbell
>who has the signs of a narcissist and habitual liar
You only got 1 of 2 correct there, pal.
>and has conservative views that don't necessarily line up with my own
Wow, who would have guessed that from a Bernie supporter?
>and I personally think that appointing conservative supreme court justices could set the country back in the long term
Unlike liberal supreme court justices who would enjoy buttfucking the Constitution into oblivion by wiping out our ability to defend ourselves or have free speech without worry of retribution?
See, now you're just trolling too hard, man.
Lincoln Campbell
>who has the signs of a narcissist and habitual liar
This bothers since you seem to imply that Hillary does not share these qualities.
Do you really think that any person that becomes a presidential candidate is not a narcissist? Its pretty much the perquisite.
Isaiah Phillips
I guess assume what you will about the wealthy, and that everything they do revolves around taking advantage of people. It's a fairly easy assumption to make, not saying that there aren't rich people that are complete assholes though. Unless there is concrete evidence of what Trump does with the donation money, then no one can say for sure what he does with it, and if it's none of our business, then so be it.
I would think that he would use the money to his campaign such that he can take less from his personal wealth. But then again I could be wrong and who's to say for sure.
David Jenkins
This is how I look at it.
Luke Ramirez
Vote for Gary Johnson
Cant Parry The Gary
Leo Cook
Get high in your basement, its was you were going to do anyways.
Samuel Allen
Bernie is a weak person who doesnt stand up for his beliefes. He bows down the Hillary the status quo and black live matter.
Trump is a real nigga
4 more years of the same is going to get very hairy.
Jackson Reed
I pretend to be a bernie supporter to convert hill shills.
Fuck
Off
Nobody is switching here, CTR.
Landon Lee
I'm a registered Dem and I'll probably vote Trump just to give a middle finger to the establishment. Let it all burn, build something new from the ashes.
Lucas Morales
Let's vote Trump and destroy political correctness. Plus, he's high-energy.
Brayden Ramirez
Similar story as yours. Original Bernie supporter, turned Trumpite.
I'm fucking sick of the powers giving us the feebly Inbordint choice of coke or Pepsi every four years.
My Trump vote is a vote for some unscripted focus group free Realness. Sure he is a narcissist and he says some bombastic things but I am so sick of political correctness it's like a drink of cool water on a warm day.
Owen Kelly
OP Here - ID probably changed because I was using my phone hotspot before. A few things that keep getting brought up:
Vote for Johnson/third party - I might as well abstain, third parties will never win the election until they start winning local elections and get more congressional seats.
>Bernie supporter Yeah, that's who many progressives flocked to when they didn't want to vote for a corrupt politician with a body count
>What state Florida - could swing either way, though I suspect Trump will take the state.
After a bit of consideration I'll probably just vote Trump. I might not have any strong feelings for him as a candidate, but at the very least it will an entertaining 4/8 years. If he wins we might look back in a few years and wonder what the fuck we were thinking, but then we'll remember the shitshow that was this election cycle.
Aiden James
Vote for Trump it will either be a 90° or 180° turn from ruin. Hillary will crash your nation headlong into the shitstorm.
Ethan Reyes
Hillary is a neocon. She's much closer to Bush and Romney than to Sanders.
Christian Butler
He who controls the memes controls the universe, bitchc nigga, let the Pepes flow
Mason Watson
Hillary called all Bernie supporters basement dwelling losers.
Remember that.
Kayden Green
>1 post by this id
vote trump faggot
Samuel Price
Bernie agreed with her
remember that
Kevin Adams
lol berniefag is browsing Cred Forums. He'll get redpilled in less than 6 months.
