What sort of balance would you ideally like to see between:
a) access to the single market
and
b) freedom of movement?
BREXIT
Ian Reed
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Elijah Collins
Everyone has access to the single market you faggit. It's membership you are talking about.
Levi Roberts
who cares
none, and deport all shitskins
Gavin Thompson
None. Hard brexit. Future governments can renegotiate further deals.
Andrew Bailey
>freedom of movement
I seriously hope you Brits don't do this.
Brayden Martinez
No comprise. Borders are ours to control. If they wont play ball with a free trade deal then they are clearly spiteful countries who would make bad partners anyway.
Colton Carter
It's the same fucking shit you fucking cunt
If we are not a member of the single market our access will be affected because we will most likely have tariffs
Stop being a fucking cunt
That's a great Cred Forums-tier answer but how about a sensible suggestion?
What about a passport for the financial services industry? That, I think, the government will work hard for, since they provide a lot to the economy.
Freedom of movement is an enshrined principle of EU membership which is exactly why we left (one of the reasons anyway)
It's also required if you are non-EU, but still join the single market (e.g. Switzerland, Norway)
Our government is almost certainly going to seek curbs, cuts to the principle of freedom of movement. But it will mean that we will have to give up some of our access to the single market - ergo, in some areas of industry, we might experience tariffs when trading with Europe (but we can just impose our own in return 2bh)
Caleb Fisher
no to both
Samuel Richardson
>If they wont play ball with a free trade deal then they are clearly spiteful countries who would make bad partners anyway.
We categorically will not get full free trade because it would incentivise other countries to leave
We will get some sort of halfway house deal, in exchange for limiting freedom of movement
James Collins
>1066
Matthew Miller
both are perfectly compatible
the uk is the eu's rich uncle who likes to buy lots of things to the rest of the family. Nobody is going to refuse their money
Jaxson Smith
No balance. Complete BRexit.
Even if Brussels did a 180 and stopped compromising the sovereignty of member nations (which will never happen, anyway), there is still the poisoned well effect.
Also, have fun collecting opinions. Send this pic to your superiors please.
Gabriel Hernandez
UK is done. GBPUSD is at multi-year lows.
Tyler Peterson
Hard brexit, deport all shitskin romanians and annex Germanistan.
Jose Rivera
They wont be able to get a passport without agreeing to free movement.
Therefore The government should not waste their time pursuing it, it will only make they look weak.
Aiden Green
We dont want freedom of movement, negotiate a trade deal when we are out. Simple.
Gavin Green
>both are perfectly compatible
Yes but we ideally would like a) full access to the single market but b) no freedom of movement whatsoever
But since that's impossible, we will almost certainly only be able to negotiate free market access on certain things
I'm not CTR you stupid cunt
Evan Lee
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Christopher Nelson
>(((Single Market)))
That implies staying within their walled garden. Join the free world and have access to all markets.
>Free movement
That would be nice if there wasn't a welfare state overtop of that. Restore failure states and sure, but otherwise, it's a nasty Jewish trick to muddle national identities.
Adrian Cox
Didn't May already say no single market?
Hudson Jones
We might be able to get, conceivably, a passport for financial services, but no other free market access, in return for highly limited freedom of movement (maybe restricted to 10,000 a year or something)
But maybe you're right, since I know the V4 countries are going to protest any attempt we make at single market access unless we have to take full freedom of movement with it
I just think it will be incredibly controversial if we do not keep that passport. It will decimate the London financial services industry. Surely some sort of deal will be done around that.
Please come up with less simplistic ideas in this thread
E.g. if that's what you truly believe then what about our financial services industry and their passport? Without that the industry will be decimated which will be massively controversial. Banks will move abroad, people will lose jobs, a massive economic engine will be lost
Jayden Green
>decent memeless thread
>no replies
good job nu/pol/, keep bumping le god emperor general
Levi Rogers
I'd like a hard Brexit and would happily forfeit all single-market access altogether. I fucking despise Western-continental Europe.
Jose Bailey
>But since that's impossible
it's not, look at turkey and the extremely low import/export taxes they pay to access the eu market and how there's no freedom of movement between both places
this is a poker game and each side will have its demands but the uk has the better hand because it's the one that has money and buys from the eu, not the other way around, and the eu countries are desperate to sell
It's perfectly compatible to access the eu market with minimal or no added costs and still mantain control on borders, don't believe those who say otherwise
Carson Campbell
The only "negotiation" you guys need, is with the good ol USA, we can make the UK our new Puerto Rico.....Trump has PLANS for the Buckingham Palace
Mason Mitchell
Use visas like a sane, modern country.
No freedom of movement whatsoever, except between the devolved states, those satellite islands, and the weird mediterranean places like Gibraltar and Malta, but more conditionally the further away geographically. Also Ireland, but if Merkel starts sending all her refugees here via Ireland, the deal is cut off. It's a shame but you can no longer risk free movement with ANY country in the EU because they will be used as proxies to push more third worlders into your country.
Companies have easier access to long-term visas, but for actually valued specialists they need, not just mass importing foreigners to undercut wages. Even they have to agree they need to jump through more hoops for this bullshit.
In return we get full access to aspects of the single market we like because the EU countries still need us despite how much they pretend otherwise. That could change as time goes on, but in that case we need to have a position of advantage for further negotiations, not suffering from a compromise made years before.
Anthony Carter
how's the pound doing? I can afford amazon.co.uk again
Logan Robinson
they aren't mutually exclusive
Mason Bailey
Unless the "far-right" get massive support across Europe i don't want anything to do with it.
Parker Carter
>That implies staying within their walled garden. Join the free world and have access to all markets.
The EU is our biggest trading partner. If we leave the single market there will be economic consequences. Not saying it will be armageddon because it won't, but some industries won't be happy.
And especially if London's financial services industry are stripped of their passport (allowing them to sell financial services to the rest of the EU) then they'll be pretty pissed.
No but some are interpreting her as meaning that, see pic
Eli Powell
I knew that a thread with a serious question requiring serious might struggle on a board that loves simplistic memes
But Cred Forums definitely is capable of decent discussion. Usually it requires you to attract people to the thread first though.
Robert Fisher
Anime here thinks it knows something.
Blake Long
How does it feel knowing your only national hero was German?
Gabriel Campbell
>it's not, look at turkey and the extremely low import/export taxes they pay to access the eu market and how there's no freedom of movement between both places
I didn't know they had access.
Maybe that's the sort of thing we'll get then.
>this is a poker game and each side will have its demands but the uk has the better hand because it's the one that has money and buys from the eu, not the other way around, and the eu countries are desperate to sell
We might have a strong hand but they will want to give us the worst deal possible because they don't want other countries following suit.
>It's perfectly compatible to access the eu market with minimal or no added costs and still mantain control on borders, don't believe those who say otherwise
Hope so.
Luke Diaz
>A) As close to tariff-free trade as can possibly be negotiated.
>B) Absolutely no compromise on freedom of movement.