Ozu or Kurosawa?

Mizoguchi

Griffithfag get in here

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Akira Kurosawa was /our/ guy,

One of the worst Shakespeare adaptations ever. Kurosawa besmirched King Lear's name.

t. liked that shitty Patrick Stewart Macbeth

>Patrick Stewart
Haven't seen it, but Fassbender's Macbeth is a masterpiece.

real one

Terayama
Oshima
Teshigahara
Now that I mentioned a bunch of directors that you should look up, bother Ozu and Kurosawa are fucking great filmmakers, but one makes mostly samurai theatre-styled films and the other generation-gap kino
Both are as good at their respective fields, aka they're the best at it

>tfw all those 5 directors are already dead
Who will save japkino now?

Kurosawa was a better director but Ozu was the better writer

Shunji Iwai

>but Fassbender's Macbeth is a masterpiece.

Now this is shitposting

Sion Sono :^)

Miyazaki

chinese and korean kinography >>> japanese flickography

if you think about it, this makes surprisingly sense

>but Fassbender's Macbeth is a masterpiece.
you need to kill yourself today. not in a year, a month a week or tomorow. today!

What, do you only like Shakespeare if Japs bastardise it?
Watch Branagh's Hamlet and rinse that Jap shit from your mind.

Thy I didnt really get in vibe with bride for rip van winkle, but he has made some GREAT kinos

Ozu made the same film over and over until he perfected it. Kurosawa made a bunch of great genre films. Both are pretty great.

Don't you have some capeshit to watch?

Now you're overreacting
Shakespeare wrote whatever story he did, with some essence in mind
Diverting from the core story but keeping its very essence intact is perfectly fine in my book.
I enjoyed Fassy's Macbeth, or Chimes at Midnight a lot, but I also enjoyed Throne of Blood, Ran etc
Good movies are good, be grateful you got them instead of shit, cause we only get so many good movies per year

Kurosawa: reddit
Ozu: Cred Forums

lel you done revealed you're a redditpleb

ozu: reddit
Cred Forums: yamanaka

kurosawa: IMDB
ozu: reddit
mizoguchi: Cred Forums

Ozu is better than Terayama and Oshima but not Teshigahara. You should've mentioned Kobayashi.

Ozu is better than both Yamanaka and Mizoguchi. Yamanaka is literally Ozu but more depressing and not as good.

Teshigahara>Kobayashi>Ozu>Oshima>Mizoguchi>Naruse>Terayama>Yamanaka>Koreeda>Fukasaku>Suzuki>Kinoshita>Itami>Kiyoshi Kurosawa>>Akira Kurosawa
Akira Kurosawa is overrated.

The soyboy opinion

Tsukamoto>The Rest

Why is Jap film so good?

Like when I think of the greatest countries in film, US, Britain and Japanese are the top 3

Overrated doesnt mean he cant make kinos
you're just angry he gets more recognition than the rest, which is understandable

Try Japan, Denmark and Italy
Followups are Russia Korea US and France (no nouvelle shit tho)

Japanese film isn't even the best in Asia.

Ishiro Honda

Objectively wrong

Of the IMDB top 250, in order the countries with the most in that list are US, UK and Japanese

250.took.nl/titles/country

inb4 "but normies don't count!!!one!!"

Objective top 5 film countries

1. France
2. Soviet Union
3. USA
4. Japan
5. Italy

Honorable mentions:

Iran
Taiwan
Hong Kong
Finland
Germany
Sweden

it is, by far

Ozu every single day. Tokyo Story is legitimately one of the best movies I've ever seen.

>US
>Britain
Nowhere near top 3
Top 3 are France, Japan and Russia. This is indisputable

Ι wont say anything about this, except that the #1 film in that list is Shawshank redemption and that isn't even top #1 US film
Normies are normies cause they only look at their own country's (recent) movies, not because they're plebs

>normies don't count
they literally don't
Tell me more about Taiwan and Finland.

Taiwan, Hong Kong and Iran are better than USA

We talking Masaki Kobayashi? Because Ozu is much, much better than him.

I'd say Teshigahara and Imamura are the only two that are close to Ozu.

>Britan

Like they have couple of Kinos but nothing really that changed cinema. Britain is more important to history of music while France gets cucked in that end.

Not him but definitely watch kaurismaki's films

>Naruse that high
>No Ichikawa Kon
>No Imamura Shohei

>Taiwan
Hou Hsiao Hsien, Edward Yang, and Tsai Ming Liang are all god-tier

kys

I will admit that I haven't seen enough kinos by those two but they're both on my watchlist
Forgot Tsukamoto, he ranks quite highly.

>I don't rate Ozu

boring shit for pseudos

>tsai
Based user

Shohei is great. Kon is good albeit for his historical shit. Fires on the Plain and The Burmese Harp are decent flicks.

Why was she such a bitch?

you sound like you work in mcdonalds and play xbox in your free time

most underrated nip director coming through

you forgot hayao miyazaki

Miyazaki is unironically better than Akira Kurosawa, as is Takahata and Satoshi Kon

what the hell am i watching...

Redpill me on Koreeda.
I liked his films I watched yet. Is he the new Ozu or just a dishonest hack?

One of the greatest films of all time
who else bought the criterion blu?

He's the new Ozu. Using the term "dishonest" exposes you for a pseud. That's just a Cred Forums meme.

Miike takashi

you sound like you haven't watched a single japanese movie in your free time and still think you have authority to comment on it

Name your favourite japanese movie, I dare you.

At least Setsuko Hara balanced her out.

Kurosawa is overrated.
Ozu.

Tokyo Story
The Insect Woman
Woman in the Dunes (though the book is much better)

*blocks your path*

Ran

For me, it's Profound Desire of the Gods.

Only seen When a Woman Ascends the Stairs by him, but it was pretty bland. Definitely worse than Shohei and certainly Ozu.

I really like Tsukamoto but at the same time his style feels so amateurish in a sense, and his films tend to be so short that they feel a little ADHD, I still love his films though and hope he has many more in him.

>Ozu remained single throughout his life and lived with his mother until she died

Dare I say it, /ourguy/?

Those two are great, was a little disappointed when I watched Alone Across the Pacific though.

I am massively attracted to this woman for reasons beyond my understanding.

Oshima
criterion.com/films/27512-merry-christmas-mr-lawrence

Kurosawa's dreams followed very closely by Teshigahara's Face of Another and Terayama's Grass Labyrinth

m.youtube.com/watch?v=WEg2HMBJyrY

What did Ozu mean by this?

Pure kino

Where is this from?

I'd do them both.

Sonatine
Love Hotel
Tokyo Decadence

kurosawa looks like yakuza boss

Burst City. Essential japanese film. Really underrated in the west like the man who stole the sun

midnighteye.com/reviews/burst-city/

Human Condition

Him and Bresson are.

Tetsuo The Iron Man. Its not the best its the one I have the most fun with. High and Low is great too.

pointless comparison
maybe naruse vs ozu would make more sense, but not really

This
This all day.

>Kobayashi
not really. 3rd rate director with 2nd rate moments

>Kobayashi>Ozu
kys my absolute dude

The USA has dozens of canonic directors.
Taiwan and iran have one each. Hong Kong not even that.

Isn't WKW from Hong Kong?

at this point, saying how underrated shimizu is is a cliché in itself

I said canonic

How isnt he canonic? In the Mood for Love is pretty big

>1. France
bunch of literal cuckold films. it's bizarre

>2. Soviet Union
don't make me laugh

the only country that even begins to compete with the usa in terms of quality of film is japan

Everyone seems to hate this film, but it has some of the most kino battle scenes in recent memore

I feel like that only applies if you go in thinking it was meant as a straight up adaptation like "Kurosawa presents Shakespeare's King Lear"

>Invents modern editing. Psh nothing personal

there's no substance to him. he'll go out of fashion in a few years

nice bait, here's your (you)

>Watches 2 movies

France is pretty based
USSR I agree with you completely.

I watched the Toshiro Mifune documentary and she was in it and still alive

vengeance is mine
high and low
woman in the dunes
cure

Lmao he's been well known since Chungking. Safe to say he isn't going out of "style".

It wasnt Setsuko Hara. It was Kyoko Kagawa

>ctrl+f masumura
>0 results

>Well known
>Canonic

user, I...

exquisite taste, user

Ozu. How the fuck can such boring subject matter and camera work be more interesting than flashy sword fights? There's some high level wizardry going on here.

Great soundtrack and a visual style I haven't seen anywhere else. Exceeded my expectations.

Anyone can help me with identifying old black-and-white Japanese movie? I guess it's some post-war drama. I watched it as a kid and remember only the last minutes of it.
>Old granny goes crazy and runs out of home.
>Someone calms the rest of family and says something like "It's OK. She goes to meet grandpa once again."
That's all I can remember.

>How the fuck can such boring subject matter and camera work be more interesting than flashy sword fights?
human touch

must see then

>soulless montage garage
>wouldn't even exist without dw griffith
to be expected of russian subhuman mongrels

>(((Russian)))

She reminds you of massage parlor ladies, the only ones whove ever touched you

Yeah, that's the thing.

Reddit loves Kurosawa, don't kid yourself. Reddit hated Macbeth (2015).

This is the offical Top 10:
1. Japan
2. Italy
3. USSR
4. USA
5. France
6. Germany
7. China
8. Taiwan
9. Hongkong
10. Sweden

>china

you must come there often to know this

fpbp

Whats the best Shakespeare Adaptation overall bros?

anyone watch nikkatsu gangster shlock? I was watching Murder Unincorporated and one of the main characters is a spot on parody of Ozu