Savages

What would have been the correct way to do it?

>They're not like you and me
>Which means they must be evil

Can someone help a brainlet user parse the meaning of these lyrics?

Not touching genocide in general might be a good hard and fast rule for the time being.

>the natives are just as bad as the settlers for defending themselves and their land lol
le radical cendrism amirite xdd

>friendly reminder the disney crew who worked on this movie wanted at least another oscar nomination

90's Disney was so radically centrist that they managed to piss off literally everybody. They wouldn't even draw Pocahontas with American Indian features for reasons that made sense to someone.

>See how I glitter

>not "barely even bacon!"
come on man.

>This is the film that Disney thought was going to be leave as big an impact as Beauty and the Beast did, getting nominated for Best Picture
>They ended up getting BTFO by a film they also made

Even when Disney loses, it's usually because they've already won with something else.

>Implying Ratcliffe wasn't right

Indians have always been criminals and drunks. The only thing the arrival of the white man did to them was to allow them to leech off of their hard-earned wealth through welfare programs and casino grants.

ah yes, the movie about lions fucking.

fucking lions.

Hey, if anyone knows how to write about Lions fucking, it's William Shakespeare.

Remember when this was a meme?
>That fucking scream
youtube.com/watch?v=er8Q9bkOKcU

2010s disney is much different.

youtube.com/watch?v=-_4LhiX8ha0

in the historical version the natives are unironically the villains

So this is what the cry of the cuck sounds like

>[REEEEE's in Algonquian]

The Algonquin language is still called Algonquin, although technically there's a bunch of different versions of it within the Algonquin federation, like Wabanaki, etc

DON'T CORRECT MY GREENTEXT

Kocoum?
More like Cuckoum

>When you remember you left something in the oven too long

Oh god these are cracking me the fuck up

Fuck off normies

he's too shiny

>In December 1609, Ratcliffe and 14 fellow colonists were invited to a gathering with the tribe of Powhatan Indians. The Powhatans promised the starving colonists would be given corn, but it was a trap. The colonists were ambushed. Ratcliffe suffered a particularly gruesome fate: he was tied to a stake in front of a fire. Women removed the skin from his entire body with mussel shells and tossed the pieces into the flame as he watched. They skinned his face last and finally burned him at stake[citation needed]. This story was documented in an eyewitness account that is included in The Jamestown Adventure: Accounts of the Virginia Colony, 1605–1614 (Real Voices, Real History), edited by Ed Southern.

Im so glad the natives got BTFO, imagine the possibility of those beasts dominating the world now.

barely even humans, you said?

>actually taking obvious propaganda as fact
come on now

>Yeah they skinned the guy who got rid of an asshole leader and traded with every native and settler equally but he HAS to be in the wrong, right... HE WHITE!

> [CITATON NEEDED]

The music in that scene made me remember that they cut out the second best song of the film because it made the kids in the test audience sleepy. It would have tied the thing emotionally together and gave the flat characters a tiny bit of depth. Should have gotten someone else to sing for Mel Gibson though.

youtube.com/watch?v=KiuBw_kj1-U

They invaded their lands, the Natives had every right to attack them

So if someone came into your town and just started cutting down trees and building a fort, you'd let them?

>Well Governor Ratcliff hasn't always been this glam!

Cabbages!
Cabbages!
Rotten to the core

No I'd ask them to stop then my wife's boyfriend would stop them.

Yeah but if you invite someone to trade, and then catch him and kill him by skinning him with clam shells you're the bad guy in the incident. Especially when the guy you killed was advocating for an equal relationship between the settlers and the natives.

>advocating for an equal relationship between the settlers and the natives.
And you don't think the natives had enough common sense to know that would never, ever, ever happen?

I would say the writing was pretty clearly on the wall that the white man was coming and was going to take everything. Now I'm not one of those "give them their land back!' faggots, but I think if you're fighting for your peoples' right to exist against foreign interlopers you're more than allowed to use "non-honorable" tactics.

They also skinned him alive
What natural right does that fall under?

So they violated the non-existent Geneva Convention?

We used to tar and feather people for doing immoral things.

>Yeah but they did this first!

Your bigotry for the white man clouds your mind

When will the live action remake be announced?

You're applying modern day war crimes to a time and place where they were unknown. I have no problem with what the white man did to the natives. I sleep at night soundly as American knowing we have the blood of natives on us. It does not bother me.

But to argue that the natives were bad because the tactics they chose to deploy while literally fighting for their existence weren't okay by modern standards is asinine.

>The proud natives were skinning people alive with mussel shells for GENERATIONS before the evil white man came with his TRADE and DIPLOMACY with tribes they didn't approve of!

That's what you sound like

>fighting for their existence
>invited a guy to dinner under false pretenses for daring to trade with the guys down the street

On the other hand,

>The nasty natives were skinning people alive with mussel shells for GENERATIONS before the proud white man came with his TRADE and DIPLOMACY that interferes with their local politics!

Because god forbid people don't just let their enemies form new alliances, they're just some stupid tribe, they should just shut up and get ganged up on. Oh wait you don't even know what the tribes are called.

Is it?

You realize that flaying has been a fairly common form of torture and brutal execution across historically white cultures as well... right?

>And you don't think the natives had enough common sense
No, they were retarded savages. Try to keep up.

You're acting like there was no context outside of this one event. That it happened in a vacuum. You're just being obtuse at this point.

God I despise minorities

White cultures were smart enugh to abandon such barbaric practices hundreds of years prior to landing on American soil tho

In 1609?

>interferes with the local politics
>literally not involved in any native conflict until they skinned the guy in charge alive because the colonists were STARVING

Brilliant tactics utilized by the Natives

What context justifies deceit and torture?

You do realize white people are a minority, right? Most of the Earth's population is Asian.

>in 1609?
According to the Wikipedia, Slavs were doing it up until at least 1657.

>What context justifies deceit and torture?
War has always justified both of those things, at least to those engaged in it.

Mine, mine, mine!

No they didn't. Look up the Thirty Years War. The stuff that was used to torture and execute people then was pretty fucked up.

Exactly, he hates white people

...weren’t you posting in a different thread this morning?

Your pattern and style is familiar as hell

So because the cultural norms of white people began advocating for burning at the stake and crushing people with fucking rocks instead of flaying, the natives were evil?

Sandwiches
Sandwiches
Barely even humans

Slavs aren't white nor are they people

Are you retarded?

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No one said shit about the natives being evil, you implied that
People are just looking down upon, and rightfully, the practice of flaying unarmed, starving colonists

>These blond haired blue eyed Europeans aren't white
cringe.

It's the exact same style as the trannies on /lgbt/, actually.

Are you a tranny?

> X isn't white!
It's kind of funny how insanely specific white supremacists are about what qualifies as white. I remember growing up how people in my home town tried to claim that this one Irish family wasn't white because they were Catholic.

>he browses /lgbt/ and willingly admitted it

Definitely retarded

>Slavs
>Euros

Not even the Polish believe that

I can't believe he wins in the sequel

It's the same sort of shit people have been doing in war since war began. Stuff equally repugnant happens in modern war between both sides all the time. I personally find it pretty bad as well, but I just feel like looking down on a group of people for committing a war crime when your people are guilty of committing arguably worse war crimes over the centuries is kinda silly.

The Poles don't believe it because they think Slavs are superior to Europeans. These days they aspire to be discount Russians.

>white supremacists

No one brought THAT up but you nigga
Jesus christ, no wonder Cred Forums comes to troll so much, it's easy fuckin pickins here

>he browses /lgbt/ and willingly admitted it
I'm literally a faggot. I have no reason why I'd be ashamed by that.
That said, I am ashamed because /lgbt/ is garbage.

I'm talking about my home town, which had a big Klan presence when I was a kid. They were really, really touchy about what qualified as white. You insisting that slavs aren't white reminded me of that.

Well to be fair, when you start calling pasty skinned Slavs "non-white" what the fuck are you supposed to take away?

He clearly did something wrong. Should have picked the right tribe.

>literally not involved in any native conflict until they skinned the guy in charge alive because the colonists were STARVING
oh so you literally only know what you read off a wiki article
lmao this paleskin

You're supposed to get the humor but I suppose race jokes are verboten during Hiroyuki's reign

The natural right of get the fuck out of my property.

youtube.com/watch?v=-_4LhiX8ha0

poor asians.

This. Americans need to get over the fact their country was created with native blood.

Americans get extremely upset if you say bad things about their founding fathers. They've basically deified them.

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Do some reading. Most of the trees were gone by the time any European colonies were founded. The Tidewater region was downright overpopulated by the time the English arrived, with most tribes living strictly on corn because they'd over-hunted the shit out of that region.

>LARPing as a non-white on Cred Forums
To what end? No one will believe you.

It's okay americans, Russians killed innocent children and women too in order to create country.
Hell, they ate innocent children and women. Japan did ethnic cleansings when it was created and they are very proud of that.

I'm black. My ancestors had nothing to do with what happened to the Natives, therefore I'll always side with them.

"Americans" aren't exclusively the offspring of colonists. In fact it might blow your mind to realize that all remaining natives are "Americans" too.

Bullshit, i bet you have European blood in your veins. Everyone has a bit of European blood just like every White American has a little bit of African and Mehicano blood.

I'm hoping mexican

>muh melting pot
Actually most people historically have stayed within their ethnicity for marriage. Please don't push your narrative on my board.

This pic isn't very constructive, as the author used different examples for the "good" and "bad" centrism. If he's so smart, how many babies does he think should be fed into a wood chipper according to the "good" centrism?

I'm white and I have a not insignificant amount of native blood (which is awesome when it comes to sunburn). Doesn't mean I go around feeling upset about things that happened 6 generations ago. In fact most white Americans today are descended from Irish, Italian, German, and Eastern European immigrants who also had nothing to do with it.

>Hell, they ate innocent children and women.
Is that what you murican propraganda told you?

>Actually most people historically have stayed within their ethnicity for marriage.
Lol, you're implying marriage = reproduction, which is cute. Slave owners loved fucking their property.

Everyone who has a bit of European blood also has a bit of Genghis Khan blood.

I doubt the few children of slaves reproduced outside of slave groups, which just asked them black. No one considered white today is descended from a slave. It's a modern invention to push (((something))).

And basically half of China is Ghengis Khan

Why didn't America just take the rest of the Native Americans' land so they wouldn't have to deal with them anymore?

God I wish I was a slave for some strict, powerful white Master. He would punish me when I messed up and reward me with his thick cock when I was a good little slave.

>No one considered white today is descended from a slave
It only takes like 2 generations for one races genes to overwhelm another

Normal-fags. Just call them normal-fags. Only Reddit posters use the PC term.

Stop bullshitting.

Literally all centrists I've met were either spineless dipshits who sat on the fence for every issue they were presented, or they were the reactionary-sympathizing type who would unironically say "both the Brits/Soviets and Nazis are correct, so to make it fair, we'll just gas four million jews instead of eight million.".

of course

and as an invading force, we had every right to exterminate them

Better to keep them around, their culture got absorbed into ours and their symbols make nice trinkets and designs to sell Euro tourists.

The fuck do trees have to do with this? That doesn't justify the genocide, the slavery, and robbing of land and its resources at all.

You're severely underestimating how massive generations are. You go back 8 generations where you're solidly in slave times and you have 256 direct ancestors walking around. It only takes one of them to be even a little bit black for you to have it in your genetic makeup.

Because we felt kind of bad about it and used that guilt as justification to round up the surviving indigenous population into "reservations" and let their race and culture wither and die over decades instead of having the fucking decency to just finish it and put them out of their collective misery.

We pussied out 99% of the way through a genocide

Your pseudoscience would be laughable if it weren't so widely believed.

Are you seriously asking why America didn't eradicate the entire Native American race, and you're considering the natives THE annoyance here? Good God, retards like you need to get lined up and shot.

It's so white liberals can get their 2% margin of error on a DNA test that says their 1/97th black or cherokee indian or whatever and absolve themselves of their retarded 'original sin' bullshit.

Yes. They failed to defend their land from invaders, so they lost it. Any other invaders would have just wiped them out if the Brits didn't get there first.

look I'm fine with less than honourable tactics. But why the fuck would you use them against one of the people who is campaigning FOR your benefit?
That's the part that confounds me up and down. You wittle down the people who aren't perfectly fine with steam rolling your shit in.

Best song in that movie.

That's not how it happened. It wasn't an open conflict military conflict, plenty of pockets of Native Americans held out and survived to this day. Such as the ones in Florida and out west

Doesn't that seen pretty meaningless? This notion of "you're mixed because you had one half black ancestor out of 250" is nonsense. Europeans are Mongols and no one is white. The entire idea of race is just a fucking joke.

So the foreigners just flooded into the country until their numbers overwhelmed the native americans enough that they couldn't fight back?

>genocide is entirely justifiable because, uuuuhhhhh, it's a sport like soccer!
How could they even defend themselves properly from people who had rifles and cannons and even plagued them with European diseases they had no immunity from?
Here's hoping a thug violently stabs you one of these nights.

If a thug stabbed someone that flayed people alive and burned them, it would be pretty justified. Hell, I'd call them a hero.

Or outright ignored them, yes.

Can we kill Mexicans to stop history from repeating?

You seem to be forgetting that the natives held out for a while and were on a downturn when the Euros arrived because of a massive extinction level event the Americas just went through

Natives werent helpless guardians of nature that faggots like you portray them as, they were warriors and they lost to time and the Euros didn't send huge armies to face the Natives, it was just colonists with muskets most of the time

>flaying a piece of shit colonist alive is just as bad as genociding 100 million people
Actually, here’s hoping that two or three thugs flay you alive instead since it triggers you so much. They’d be my heroes.

It's not like the Nazis relied upon the Antifa to create Martyrs for them.

And maybe a compromise between communists and democratic socialists might have been a good idea if it avoided Nazis coming into power.

People unironically use Nazis as an example of when compromise does not work. But this just shows a complete lack of knowledge of history.

Really, judicious use of compromise could have actually helped stop the Nazi rise to power.

This movie is such a mess.

There was no native genocide. They died to a disease in a time when we didn't even understand germ theory. Anyone, white or red or yellow that justifies nightmarish murder and torture deserves to die. The fact that you'd wish that on someone makes me worried about your personal life, especially since you're expending so much effort to defend people who have been dead for hundreds of years. I'd almost say you're "triggered".

>genociding 100 million people
why do people say this...

The lie that's been told is the noble savage story. Fact is, Native Americans weren't all that much different from the colonists in their ideals and in fact worked quite well with colonists most of the time, especially when it came to going to war against rival tribes. Having the support of a local colony with guns and cannons was a big help.
The breakup came when they realized it was an invasion and they were going to be forced out, but too little too late. A lesson to be learned about allowing foreigners to freely set up shop on your land. They will eventually overwhelm you and take over.

>They wouldn't even draw Pocahontas with American Indian features

whut

Glen Keane talks about he designed Pocahontas with native features and intentionally made her very different visually from Ariel. You can argue whether it came across well, but I don't know where you're getting they didn't want to make her look native.

i really like her dick sucking lips.

>Should have gotten someone else to sing for Mel Gibson though.

I unironically love Mel Gibson's performance in that.

John Smith was the actual Ratcliffe of the movie, funny enough.

The Nazi rise to power was created by compromise. The conservative President decided to use his emergency powers to make Hitler Chancellor even though the Nazis didn't have a majority. The conservatives thought that by making a deal with Hitler they could get the things that they wanted. In reality, all they did was put Germany on the path to total ruin.

>100 million + native died from disease no one even knew about or could have known about
>Millions died from white peoples hands

White people are the virgins compared to the chad germ

They died to smallpox that has been intentionally smeared all over the blankets they were gifted, and those who survived were enslaved and killed off when they stopped being useful to the colonial machine. It’s why the Spaniards and Brits bought so many slaves in Africa because they had more strength and resilience than the Native Americans.
And mate, all you ever did was sperg fallaciously about genocide being justifiable because one colonist got tortured and how we white people are the “””REAL””” victims here like a whiny faggot. You’re one triggered autist, and any autist who thinks like you do deserve to be wiped off the face of the face of the Earth instead. The human race would be so much cleaner without your backwards, savage thought.

Becaus it happened, friend.

>as a gay man...
>married to my husband...
It's pitiful that gays and lesbians think their "marriage" is real. I wish there was some way to help them overcome their mental illness.

Cabbages, cabbages!

Stupid fucking cabbages!

Stinking up my kitchen!

No, the Nazi rise happened because the Brits and French did literally nothing about it in hopes they would eradicate the Poles and Soviets, only to start getting pissy when the Soviets made a NAP to buy themselves some time.

TL;DR: that faggot Churchill was the reason WW2 didn’t end sooner.

North American tribes were fucked anyway. If whitey didn't come, the Aztecs would have eventually expanded that far north and used them as sacrifices.

>long hiatus out of Cred Forums and Cred Forums in general
>decides to check out how the board is doing
>Cred Forums shilling, first post in the front page

Well, nope. Cred Forums still Cred Forums memery playground

See ya.

>ITT

You really thing I'm going to read your massive bleeding heart rant? Stay triggered by fictional stories.

Which one are we? The natives or the conquerors? and which one is Tumblr?

At least they're married. user, when are you going to bring a nice girl home?

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>waaaahhhhh muh whitey got some feefees ;^(((
Stay mad, illiterate autismo.

What are you trying to say? I can't understand you through the snot and tears.

it's not an illness when they like it.

Wipe them off your face then, you dirty baby.
Didn’t your parents teach ya manners? Have some shame.

Honestly it's funny how you're so wrapped up in being "right" that you don't even understand what I'm saying. I'm not even fucking white lmao. It's just a riot how you scream and wish death on strangers for daring to disapprove of torture and mutilation. By the way you're spreading false information with the smallpox blankets shit. You can check Wikipedia. It's that well known as a lie.

>Things that never happened: The post

>my advocacy for mass murder are natural diseases
>CHECKMATE LIBRALS

>They're married
Nope. Not according to the US Constitution or religious standard.
>When are you going to bring a nice girl home?
I did. Been married 10 years and I have two kids.

>it's not an illness when they like it.
Solid logic there. I guess I should start respecting and accepting otherkin then.

That's awfully funny, because I was married by my pastor, who is ordained by the Presbyterian church. Guess I must have imagined it huh? :^)

Sorry, I can’t understand you through the snot and tears rolling down your face. ;^)

Well historically white people have been the ones to use the one-drop rule.

You do know that you can’t legally marry your dakimakura waifu, right user? I’m pretty sure that’ll still take a couple of decades.

Not the same person, but the entire point of this argument is that the natives were just as bad as the colonists. Not only that, but you agree that we can't look down on one group for committing atrocities when the others did it as well. So this victim complex that Native Americans have is completely unjustified.

I so.ehow never noticed.

>the supreme court versus some guy on Cred Forums
Hmmm who to believe?

Sandwiches
Sandwiches
Tasty and delicious

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Well there are some pretty Godless churches out there that will do anything for a quick buck, still doesn't mean you're married in the eyes of God.

>god

you bieleve in imaginary friends?

this has got to be one of the worst Cred Forums memes

>imagine the possibility of those beasts dominating the world now.
The Anglos did win, though.

>muh not a real Christian
Good thing my congregation doesn't get on Cred Forums!

Not even close.

This has been genuinely fun but I'm out of reasons to get bullied by you. Do you think maybe you could just bully me a little more?

You gotta admit Pocahontas was a beautiful movie. Amazing use of color. I'm glad they brought back the art director for Frozen after sacking having sacked him because Home on the Range bombed.

>I'm going to go against the Word of God
>don't call me out on my headcanon!

That argument has being BTFO so many times that you are either a retard or a socialist, is not like there is a difference.

to bad Frozen looks like a ps2 game now.

>a moderate amount of gun control
>centrist

So they favor status quo

I know the ten commandments and I know Jesus' words. None of them are "don't be a faggot".
>but, but, muh Jewish rules
Then go sacrifice animals and grow out your sideburns with the rest of the Christ-deniers. Make sure you make you're own clothes and don't eat any bacon.

Churchill wasn't even PM until after France got buttfucked.

>DBZ thread deleted twice, with everyone having a good time
>Cred Forumstard thread going on for hours, with endless global rules violations by the minute

It's true what Cred Forums said recently. Cred Forums, by this point is only Cred Forums shitting every single thread on all boards

It's obvious that you don't read the Bible or even understand the basic concepts of christianity. Otherwise, you would know that God is trying have a relationship with us and that He has some moral laws that He expects us to follow.
>muh bacon, mixed clothing and sideburns
Weak bait. If you read anything more than a couple passages taken out of context in a Huffpost article, you'd know that it's explained in the epistles. But based of your post, you're probably the type that says, "HURR KIKE PAUL NOT CANON".

Dude his name has rat in it lmao

>The Spaniards and Brits bought so many slace in Africa

That was the Dutch

THEY'RE NOT LIKE YOU AND ME
WHICH MEANS THEY MUST BE EEEEEEEEEVIL

I dont know whos trolling who anymore

You think literally everyone alive wasn't territorial militant killers who would pillage anyone and anything that was on land they wanted? No they weren't wrong to defend themselves, but it's a fact that it was a two way turf war. It's people competing for land, plain and simple. Claiming Native Americans have some magical moral high ground just because they were primitive is silly. The emotion you're feeling is pity for a conquered peoples.