Honestly...

It might be the point since they're Toons, but everyone from Disney town is a massive fuckup. The only reason a lot of the events that kicked off KHII happened was because Minnie decided to throw Pete into the realm of fucking Darkness for causing some slight mischief.

Thats the bane of my existence, every single time.

What was Master Xehanort's ultimate goal again? Take over the universe?

I wonder who else is in there right now.

>Have I mentioned he's an edgelord? His boyfriend is all "I'm gonna walk the road to dawn" and Mickey, the king of the goddamn realm of light, is all: "Ha ha, me too pal!" and he tosses on a darkness cloak.

The cloaks were from Diz to hide their presence from the Organization, and they both ditch them near the end of II.

To create a "Next World" according to his Reports from BBS.

Because Kingdom hearts is and always has been Autistic Nipponese Fanfiction.

If you played as Riku with Mikey as your only team mate, then it'd be pretty cool.

That wouldn't make sense either, though, since Goofy's a retarded. It would be cool to have a berserking mage though.

What does that even mean? Does any of that warrant his needlessly convoluted plan?

when will we get to see Max and Pete Jr.

Putting it simply, become God.

I kind of admire the Star Wars prequels now compared to this shit. At least Palpatine's plan wasn't as retarded.

cause he was a racist
and wanted to create a whole new world just for his kind only

>needlessly convoluted plan
Xehanort's plan is only as needlessly convoluted as it needs to be. Originally he was going to simply create the X-Blade and use it to summon Kingdom Hearts in order to start another Keyblade War, which could potentially destroy and remake the world, because he's an evil scientist and he wanted to see what would happen. His original plan to forge the X-Blade failed, so he's currently resorting to his extremely complex backup plans after his other, simpler backup plans failed.

>Manga
That shit is about as canon as the V-Cast game.

It's doubtful. The personalities that people would want to see are HEAVILY rooted in Goof Troop and the Goofy Movies and those are supposedly a no-go territory for Square due to the "no TV shows" rule.

What is Kingdom Hearts anyway?
Is it like a bat signal for retards to come and bash each others heads in with big keys?

It's Heaven, basically. It's where all hearts go to in the end of it all, and is a massive source of power.

Kingdom Hearts is light

Do new hearts get created or does everyone get theirs from KH?

Basically is the Kingdom of Light, were all hearts go when you die or release your heart because reasons.
That fucking fight was because there was a traitor, one of the maximun leaders of the unions have darkness in his heart. At the end, instead of resolving everything with their master, that son of a bitch run aways and all the unions fall apart because of distrust and "muh light".

They get created out of nothing, literally. I'm serious.

>At the end, instead of resolving everything with their master, that son of a bitch run aways and all the unions fall apart because of distrust and "muh light".
Sounds like Anakin and his distrust of the Jedi council combined with Palpatine.

>Mickey is leagues more badass
Have you heard his voice? At least Donald sounds cool when he shouts

youtube.com/watch?v=uuC9yxJ6_pY
>Light.. but why?
You know, in retrospect his death was kind of flaccid.

Yeah, the more you get into KH lore, the more Star Wars-like it becomes.

I gained my gazing eye to see if I could save the future, but with how my fancy book of prophecies ends with what really boils down to 'Darkness is bound to triumph because light is dumb'... Yeah, it... couldn't be saved. Sry.

It's worst, maybe there wasn't any traitor, so they killed themselves for nothing.
Nah, Light always wins because the plot demans it.

I want Mickey to give me a footjob

Because nobody gives half a shit about Kingdom Hearts.

We'll see.

I would have liked it if there was someone like Ahoska who walked away from the Keyblade tradition and did their own thing but not be a huge asshole about it.

You'd say that, but if you really think that way, why are you posting in a Kingdom Hearts Thread.

To recreate the keyblade war and unlock kingdom hearts and see what happens

> The Heaven is a mix with Disneyworld and Final Fantasy.
And Mickey is God. Wow.

>Sounds like Anakin and his distrust of the Jedi council combined with Palpatine.
Bbs was practically the prequels

DiZ is also an edgelord crybaby.

>because Minnie decided to throw Pete into the realm of fucking Darkness for causing some slight mischief.
He wasn't thrown into the realm of darkness, he was imprisoned in some other space and Maleficent came and picked him up.

Anyone else NOT believe for a second that Mickey is worth a damn? He's never done anything in the series except beat easy grunts. The only time Mickey clashed with a character with a name and face, Young Xehanort, Mickey's spell was broken and it was up to Riku to actually beat up Young Xehanort. People give Mickey too much undeserved credit. And remember, DISNEY will never permit Mickey to show what's made off because they will never approve of a Mickey game.

>but only in fights where it wouldn't impact the plot

That cut scene of Mickey entering the portal to the final level of KH2, Axel shows up and destroys the Nobodies and gives his final words while Mickey is absent, and then Sora enters the final level of KH2 and Mickey arrives with Sora at the same time. It's like Mickey's existence was erased during the Axel cut scene. Mickey is a non-factor.

He did help Ven fight Vanitas during BBS and even helped Aqua fight possessed Ven near the end game.

>It's worst, maybe there wasn't any traitor, so they killed themselves for nothing.

Mark my words, KH3 is going to have Xehanort win reboot the universe AND bring back the Union Leaders and their subjects.

They should of given us the comic Donald.
The guy that somehow ends up getting a ton of ladies attracted to his charm.
At least then his interaction scenes would be much more interesting.

Is there any Duck Avenger game?

It's fun how Quack Pack's Daisy is basically Lila, but in a Lois Lane fashion.

Am I right in thinking that the entire plot of Kingdom Hearts revolves around heroes and villans trying to weaponize friendship?

I was talking to my frined about it, and I want to know if I'm close to making sense of the story.

Yeah, kinda.
>PK: Out of the Shadows
Apparently, it's a bad game.

>villans trying to weaponize friendship?
No far from it.
Kh only makes sense if you actually play it.

>Kh only makes sense if you actually play it.
Even then you really gotta work to understand it

If you play through every game, watch the post-credits scenes, and read all of the Ansem reports/assorted journals, you'll get like 90% of it.
The rest has to be inferred from context and long hours spent on forums.

I assure you that that's no always the case.

It's mostly hard for me because I can't understand or sympasize why most of the characters act or feel the way they so. To me, the OC cast behaves like aliens who studied earth bahavior through shitty shonens in a high school anime club.

Who the fuck are these people? Where's Sora, Riku, Roxas, Kairi, and Namine?

They are from top left to buttom right
>young Ardyn Izunia
>Trench coat Joe
>young Tifa
>Hope Estheim
>the guy that Ardyn eventually steals his hat from
>not Roxas
>Cait Sith

Couldnt help but notice how most comic fans absolutely despise Daisy for some reason. The comic writers themselves seem to have nothing but spite.
Something happen?

the premise of KH is fun but at this point, I agree they need to retcon everything.

I don't like it when people complain about "MUH DISNEY". Disney has never really been apart of the story, they're just set pieces. Even Mickeys involvement in the story is as a lore dumper. It's always been about the anime characters having an anime war with and/or over anime weapons. I love it.

And if you say "But KH1 was Maleficent and Princesses of Heart", Maleficent was just a puppet for the true anime villain, and can you really call Alice a "Princess"?.

Kingdom hearts is largely a long series of retcons and surprise reveals. Considering how many unanswered questions the first two games ended with, this shouldn't really be a surprise. It's happened to other franchises. At least KH is more or less under the direction of one man (Nomura), and he seems to exert his vision for the setting pretty well.

Retconning it would fix nothing, doing so would only exacerbate the issues.

Nah then it makes less sense

Kindom Hearts in a nutshell:
youtube.com/watch?v=ouMV8EhR3Jw

Kingdom Hearts is, to put it very, very, very simply, the closest thing the setting has to God. Opening the doorway to it basically allows one to utilize it's power to shape the Multiverse as they will, and all Hearts end up returning to it's EMBRACE sooner or later. Getting to it is truly a bitch though, given that it's dead-centre within the Realm Of Darkness.

Except in 2 where it was a false one made by Xemnas from hearts slayed by the keyblade. How did he do that? IDK, heart magnet.

>because Minnie decided to throw Pete into the realm of fucking Darkness for causing some slight mischief

It wasn't just some slight mischief, she did it because his outburst towards the trio was the last straw for the town, they didn't mind Pete being a dick to them, but to pick on a bunch of outsiders just because they won a contest YOU tried to rig by being two separate personas and be a sore loser is going too far.

Not to mention the fact that there are like multiple versions of it, from KH1's Door to light, to the one assembled by the Organization, the one at the end of Birth by Sleep was a special one in that it was summoned specifically to help create the X-Blade and was not the true one. As far as I'm concerned, the actual Kingdom Hearts was the one created during the Keyblade war. Just some massive conglomeration of power born from millions of magic warriors killing eachother due to the fear that one side was evil

Yeah, right...
>Door to light opens
Oh my Darkness

>wanted to destroy the world to see what would happen

Couldn't just meet in the middle ground and have goofy?

This. It's made very apparent to the player that they hold this festival in high regard, throwing it even when the king isn't around. Terra, Ven and Aqua were guest, you don't shit on guest unless you have a good reason too, not only that but some people DID vote for Pete and he outright stated he didn't care all because he didn't win, proving their faith in him was just BS, all this leads to a rightfully angry Queen Minnie.

Yep, ol' baldy is a curious kitty, but like they say, curiosity killed the cat.

>It is I, Ansem, the seeker of darkness!
>Well gosh Ansem, why y'all gotta do all this bad stuff, hyuck.
I'll admit, I might play that.

Xehanort is basically the embodiment of insatiable curiosity.

What I want to know is why the fuck Triton knows about keyblade wielders, the one disney character that knows that isnt traveling through worlds, he's a fucking anomaly. I thought BbS would reveal this due to being a prequel and mermaid Aqua

but no, no Atlantica. Why does he know dammit?

Dropped plot point, might as well forget everything important from KH1 because every subsequent game certainly does bar DDD. I always figured it was because he was king and royalty is somehow always privy to that kind of stuff, we never meet the Sultan of Agrabah and the Queen of Hearts is a fucking loon.

The Trident is the item that activates Atlantica's Keyhole, so he probably inherited some information on the Keyblade War and what it might mean for his world when he became King.

In a perfect world post-kh3 games will be more like kh1 in terms of Disney world's actually having plot.

Kingdom Hearts lore sounds like the worst of Japanese style story telling. Like a complete fucking mess. Christ how can you people like this?

Gameplay, it's fun to play and level up and just turn Sora into a fucking power house.

we played it

They said they want to do that with KH3, like how the Toy Story world will be exploring the connection between toys and the children who play with them.

She rarely is anything but a troublesome antagonist who nags the hell out of Donald, or a (lets face it, redundant) reason to feud with Gladstone. There are some stories where she isn't and actually contributes positively, but they're few and far between, to the point where a small harem of alternative love interests turn up all over the Euro comic scene.

but those were some kickass set pieces though
and we want more of these set pieces
since the OC anime stuff isn't that interesting

then why not just play FF or any other JRPG series?

>donaldfag this jealous

Of course Mickey is stronger than Donald in a fight, he always has been

it i though. the kh3 worlds have thematic reasons for the villains to be there at least

I swear Kingdom Hearts started feeling like a Bleach knock off, but even more convoluted.

>is why the fuck Triton knows about keyblade wielders,

Triton's a god.

Dude's probably been around long enough to see the Keyblade War.

I don't see how it's a dropped plot point since that's the first time we hear about the Keyblade being a morally neutral or even dangerous force rather then just a Special Chosen One weapon.

But that's what I like about it.

Make Mickey say double hecking damn in the next game. Make him a swear.

Kingdom Hearts is not canon, user. It even has Scrooge with a blue jacket: that's like the first sign of not caring about your source material.

Scrooge wears red. RED.

The comics arent canon. The cartoons are.

Kingdom Hearts, at its core, started as "Square makes a Disney movie" and its OCs were for the most part, Square's takes on Disney archetypes of heroes, princesses, and hammy card carrying villains. And the worlds and Disney characters actually complimented the story reasonably well.

Then the Organization came in and the series shifted into its bad shonen anime state, though Birth By Sleep actually managed to feel like a return to form in making the Disney worlds work into the character arcs of the trio and Master Xehanort being the most gloriously hammy villain the series ever had.

>disney has to shoehorn it's own corporate mascot

LOOOOOOOOOOL

Thing is that DIsney didn't even want Mickey in Kingdom Hearts. They thought having him actually do action-y things would damage his brand. Square were the ones that wanted Mickey to be the star, Disney wanted a Donald Duck game and Mickey would have to be limited to a single scene cameo.

Nomura eventually decided to make an original player character in the form of Sora and he decided to use the "One Mickey scene only" card on the ending and build up his importance throughout the story to force Disney's hand and let him use Mickey more in sequels.

>young Tifa
wait a minute ...

That's from the MOBA game set 100 years before the rest of the series about the Keyblade War, but somehow Ventus and Marluxia were there.

youtube.com/watch?v=N6ONcuv50Ls

So from the context of that image. Aqua is somewhere naked?

Sheev knew what he was doing

At this point, KH has the worst character writing in vidya, not even memeing. It was primitive but serviceable in KH1, dumb in KH2, and has gone full retard since then.

KH is the greatest bullshit story of all bullshit stories
it isnt anywhere near as crazy as people make it out to be but I'll be damned if this crossover game doesnt sound like a hidden link between snatcher and metal gear solid

Here's a better version, it's uncensored and actually animated.

>youtube.com/watch?v=tDtAaD0tnBQ

>KH1's Door to light
*door to darkness
>As far as I'm concerned, the actual Kingdom Hearts was the one created during the Keyblade war
You are correct. BBS states it
>Xehanorts Report VII: "It must be noted, though, that this Kingdom Hearts is special. Unlike the Kingdoms brought about forcibly and artificially through the collection of hearts, THIS Kingdom Hearts is a perfect and complete union of ALL the worlds' hearts. Surely it was over this that the ancient Keyblade War was fought."

4 of them is more xion-Like cancer that's been plaguing the series. It will probably act like they are super important in kh3

Kingdom hearts is emo trash

I could never understand Mickey's place in a serious edgelord game. his happy demeanor just doesnt feel right in it

Nailed it.

Honestly how come you don't talk about this on Cred Forums instead of trying to shoe-horn it in over here all the time.

The games have been shit ever since Square Soft went under and became Square Enix in the buyout. Just accept that your franchise is nothing, but an empty aesthetic that apes style over substance.

Its not on Cred Forums cause a ton of shitposters and bad anons always ruining kh threads probably

the games arent that bad but there hasn't been a game as good as 1 or 2 in a while

>Dat Pete X Maleficent shipteasing
This is so retarded but I do kinda like it.

2 was shit

wrong

Blackshirt, irresponsible but well meaning, Inpulsive but Clever, insecure, depressed, father-figure to his three orphaned Nephews, Donald >>>>>>>>>> generic angry tantrum guy Blueshirt Donald.

I hate that boring mouse and the monopoly he represents. Besides Disney stole it from a guy in first place, his animations weren't even good, just a symbol. Have you watched fantasy? I almost fell asleep

Keyblade War ends in literal extinction of life and light by Darkness. I'm just wandering why Kingdom Hearts didn't show up after or during the Keyblade War, everybody was a key blade weilder and killing each other with it.

Wouldn't this have triggered a massive wave of strong hearts going up into the sky and attracted Heartless out the ass?

I believe is was talking about this before with another user and the consensus was that Daisy was a really flat character who was only good for reacting to Donald’s angry tantrum and selfish mischief-maker side, but not with his better, more nobler sides that he’s been shown to have since the comic’s been running, making her interactions with Donald seem unwarrantedly mean and bitchy, and doing a doubly effective job at being her seem like a complete cunt and that he’s too good for her. Honestly, Daisy is in Dire need of character development or perhaps a complete overhaul even, as right now she’s only tolerable in very small quantities.

>Square were the ones that wanted Mickey to be the star,
Should have known that the fuckin Nips would be the ones to bring the awful taste.

I would like a world with Mickey in your party. Kinda wish they adjusted things so you could have 3 party members and have two to pick from in each world.

I’d like it if the just kick out Sore. No one likes that generic gay ass Shonen bullshit. It’s the reason Kingdom Hearts has gotten so fuckin stupid.

Whenever I see Sora and his stupid fucking haircut, I am reminded of the worst character in Sonic anime. This little shitspit.

Anyone else still shocked that they fucking killed off Goofy in 2?

Just be thankful SEGA can't use him anymore due to licensing issues.

>no tv show rule
Really? Fucking why? They can make a Cinderella world but not Gargoyles or Ducktales or Gummi Bears? Come on.

They keep inventing new ones which is really, really fucking frustrating.

He's the same as any Square bad guy. He wants to fuck with forces that shouldn't be fucked with. His one saving grace was that Nimoy went full ham voicing him.

Did anyone interview him about Xehanort?

Disney was pretty important in the first where the bad guys were all Disney villains until the last act.

They need to bring back the Legion of Disney Doom. To hell with the anime OCs. Hell, you could make an Organization XIII of Disney bad guys and it would be awesome.

I'm just glad the worlds won't be so depressingly empty and void of life in 3. Like holy shit it was bad in 1 and 2 but they were just insultingly lazy in Birth by Sleep.

>Cinderella goes to the ball
>There's just the Prince there and monocle man
Fuck that was lazy.

Wreck it Ralf summon,ake it happen!

Sombodey sucks at KH

>Really? Fucking why?
WAAAAAY too much material to work with. I mean could you imagine adapting the Gargoyle series into two visits?

Not to mention that if one TV show gets in, then a bunch of others will swarm the series including shit like Teamo Supremo and American Dragon Jake Long and ones zero people care about like Buzz on Maggie and Replacements.

>Syndrome, Yokai, and Xanatos are the leaders.
>Xanatos fights you early on in the power armor but then betrays them for your side when you start winning

>Bellweather is a member and has been using the heartless to try and convince Zootopia that predators are more at risk of losing their hearts and becoming heartless.

>Turbo hacks Radiant Gardens, Sora tracks him to Wreck it Ralph World, Litwak's Arcade. He's potentially in a team-up with MCP or Clu

>Facilier and Davy Jones could both do Hades' gimmick of manipulating Square characters to fight against you, but Davy Jones has enough going for him as is with his crew and ship and Kraken making excellent boss fights. A Princess and the Frog world would need a little bump, and putting in a Kain bossfight would be awesome. Not to mention that Cecil is pretty enough to hang out in idealized New Orleans Mardi Gras without looking too out of place.

Yep, at least KH1 had the excuse of peoples hearts being taken in the 10 year gap between BBS and KH1 since no keyblade wielder was around to stop the heartless from running rampant (although that doesn't explain the lack of guest at the ball in Castle of Dreams since there were no heartless around at the time).

>Xanatos fights you early on in the power armor but then betrays them for your side when you start winning
>Bellweather is a member and has been using the heartless to try and convince Zootopia that predators are more at risk of losing their hearts and becoming heartless.
This I like, for the Bellweather scenario, it's gonna be a bit difficult coming up with animal shape heartless that don't look like the Dream Eaters from DDD.

>Sleeping Beauty's Castle
>No one is sleeping but Aurora.

>The only mouse is Jacq

>Disneytown is having a festival and the streets are empty

It's like the characters have some kind of weird mental disorder where they can only see people that matter to the plot.

>It's like the characters have some kind of weird mental disorder where they can only see people that matter to the plot.
Pretty much, I know the real answer is because they wanted to save on space and time, but it feels so weird that Traverse Town, the place some people go when their world gets swallowed, is nearly empty.

>Syndrome
>Tokai
>Xantos
>Smellweather
>Davy Jones
>Facilier
>Turbo

Need six more

>Magica DeSpell
She's the Malificent of the group. Beagle Boys are her Peates. And its about damn time we had a Ducktales world.

>Horned King
Sure, Black Cauldron tried to smash together the first two Chronicles of Prydain books and made a mess, but it wasn't THAT bad of a movie. Plus after how fun Sleeping Beauty World was in BBS I'd totally be down for castle raiding against the Horned King. And the Cauldron Born would make great minions to fight.

>Negaduck
Because

1. He's a Disney Villain with experience in traveling between worlds.

2. Fearsome Five boss battles. And a bonus battle against all of them at once.

3. If we're putting Incredibles and Big Hero Six in the same game we might as well add Darkwing Duck and complete the Disney superhero theme.

4. Nomura loves evil alternate characters. Just look at Vanitas.

>Phantom Blot
Got to go back to Disneytown someday. And he works so well with the Heartless theme I'm amazed he hasn't already been used.

>King John
Embrace the Furry.

Maybe they could do something where him being recognized as king is important? Like being king of a world gives you special powers over its heart or something?

>Reinhardt

I'm amazed they haven't done The Black Hole yet. The story just screams Kingdom Hearts. Mad scientist wants to explore the heart of darkness and to that end has turned his rebellious crew into lobotomized drones (heartless). He ends up in hell merged with his robot guardian Maximilian (Ansem's Guardian).

Just make Reinhardt inspired by Xehanort and make the black hole a giant door to the darkness. V.I.N.C.E.N.T is a party member. Boss fights include Maximillian, then the Cygnus ship itself, then Max-Reinhardt in Hell.

That doesn't bother me. He can be better than Donald, I don't care.
What does bother me is Mickey in a trench coat talking about light and dark. Acting like a weird mix of Yoda and Kermit. It's bizarre.

The first game got it (mostly) right. Mickey's just Mickey, he happens to be royalty because that's Disney bread and butter and he's a helpful, plucky little guy on his own adventures. But when Mickey, Donald and Goofy are talking about the twilight and natural order and all this bullshit it feels wrong. They should be interacting with this plot but not enveloped by it. Mickey isn't some weird Jedi. It's bizarre as shit.

It's a result of the characters being proactive but not proactive enough because you as the player have to be the one that really saves the day. It turns them into exposition pieces. It could be solved if the writing wasn't Final Fantasy level, but you know.

It's really as simple as not portraying Mickey as a shadowy sensei and not letting Goofy and Donald slip OOC.

Nomura has the mentality of a teenager (and so do the co-writers), so that kind of intentional disconnect is never gonna happen.

The sad part is Mickey and the cartoon casts have the potential to work really, really well with the more serious business anime cast. Just look at how Bone did it combining cartoon characters and fantasy lit characters.

>Black Hole
Oh fuck yes. Just for the look of the world alone.
youtube.com/watch?v=HyULTU9smVQ

And the opportunity for some really cool bossfights. Who doesn't want to fly outside and fight one of the greatest sci fi ships of all time World of Chaos style? And then fight a robot in Hell.

>Mickey isn't some weird Jedi. It's bizarre as shit.

About that...

I'd say Blot should be the one in charge.

>Cygnus picks you up as you're flying around in the Gummi ship sort of like Monstro or Hook's ship from KH1
>Interact with cast, everything seems nice enough. VINCENT joins the party. Sora starts getting worried when Reinhardt talks about exploring the Black Hole. He's seen what happens to people that try to explore darkness.
>"Gawsh Mr. Reinhardt, those sure are some quiet crewmen you got there"
>Unmasking scene
>They're "Heartless" instead of lobotomized crewmen zombies but it still scares the ten year olds playing.

>Rest of the level is traveling around the Cygnus as Maximillian hunts you Nemesis style going on space walks in the BBS armor like in Deep Space to break shit on the outside.

>Then you have Maximillian boss fight.

>Then it starts getting better. Reinhardt sets controls for the heart of the black hole while you're outside. You have a full on Cygnus boss fight as it he tries to ram through you into the black hole while a meteor storm is going on.

>Max isn't dead yet because he's a fucking terminator and fights with you as the Cygnus starts to break apart and enter the black hole. The environment is like 3:54 in the youtube clip. Everything is red and smoking and the Cygnus towers are crumbling.

>Reinhardt takes off in the capsule. You enter the black hole proper and fight Max-Reinhardt first in the environment at 4:41 and then in Hell.

>The glowing angel entity that appears to guide you out of Hell is Mickey Mouse or Kairi.

For such a shit film Black Hole could be the Kingdom Hearts GOAT level.

Mikey>>>>>>>Riku and his lame Keyblades. Yeah I said it both Way to dawn and his new one KH3 suck aesthetically. Soul Eater just looked better.

It works as a goof for rides and such, like that.
It falls flat for a story.

Goofy is shown to smarter than rage duck on multiple occasions. In and out of Kingdom Hearts. Plus Goofy when given potions he puts Donald to shame as a healer.

Just having them act mostly as themselves and avoid certain names and repetition would help a lot. Goofy sounds fine saying "a buncha heartless/nobodies/monsters" but it doesn't work when he says "Xemnas" or "Sephiroth."

Looney Tunes went through this already. Daffy Duck talking about sci fi stuff in a Buck Rogers setting while staying in character manages to not throw you off, but when you get into Loonatics Unleashed territory it starts to feel wrong.

KEYBLADE

I'd love if they undercut all the hyped up drama the Nomura OCs cultivate around themselves if Goofy just called them Xemmy or Sephy.

It would've been funny if he took Aqua's body. Aquanort in the house!

Imagine if one of the 13 darknesses is a disney villain. Like it's Pete with fucking silver hair and yellow eyes.

How did Riku deage between KHDDD and KH2?

How many Square girls have we had there were prominent villains?

Xenmas machine broke and changed him back in KH2. In KHDDD Yen Sid turned them back to being 14 and 15 so they're weakened for their exams.

>13 darknesses
I honestly would prefer the Disney League this thread made over Nu-Organization 13.

Hard to do that right now, since those 'better gf qualities' were recently given to Reginella.

That time bitch from 8 and Cloud of Darkness are the only ones that come to mind.

Why the hell haven't we had Cloud of Darkness as a character in Kingdom Hearts yet? Or based tree warlock?

Nomura said that he doesn't want Final Fantasy to distract from the Kingdom Hearts or Disney elements which is why most are cameo at best.

Can't have skimpy clothes in our E10+ game. The best were gonna get is Maleficent and she's insignificant and weaksauce and ugly.

Too much.

Something like
would be cute, though. Go balls to the wall, every Darkness is something different and sillier. An OC like Braig. An actual Final Fantasy character. Pete. A minor character from Brave Fencer Musashi. Go crazy! Have fun with it!

Schala and Queen Zeal.
A good number of things from SaGa.
The actual antagonist of Xenogears.
Queen Brahne
Yunalesca
Jenova

>Can't have skimpy
Ariel and Jasmine.

>Don't want Final Fantasy to detract from Disney elements
>But my OCs hogging the plot is okay

Fuck that actually sounds kind of cool.

>Can't have skimpy clothes in our E10+ game.

Cloud of Darkness skimpy I meant.

Is Yuffie labia puffie?

>First game
This is Disney first and foremost.
>Everything else
Nomura doesn't wanna deal with the brand and licensing department very much and would rather make his own donut steels.

Yep, Goofy also got a team heal ability in final mix, saved my ass a couple of times.

>Just give up it'll be easier

Then just cover her in more darkness. It's not like they don't redesign everyone else.

Onion Knight would make a great companion for Sora, especially if Nomura remembers that Onion Knight also had a "learned my world is just a smaller world compared to the outside' plot. Being younger than Sora he could be like a little brother and give Sora the chance to be sort of his Riku. It would really work.

Nomura now has access to what is quite possibly the biggest collection of IPs on Earth when you put in Fox and Marvel and Star Wars.

He literally has no excuse for shoehorning in armies of OCs when he can now cross over Dr. Doom and Darth Vader.

Spider-Man is a total no-brainer. Japan fucking loves him.

Yeah.

But he's gonna.
Cause he wanna.

Everyone loves Spider-Man. The guy just prints money. hollywoodreporter.com/news/superhero-earns-13-billion-a-748281

Just look at how big his "other" bar is on the graph. It's insane how globally loved Peter Parker is.

Plus, he was a teenager for a time and very quippy. A perfect summon for Sora and fits his shounen tone very well.

There are problems with your thought process on this. For one, Reginella is a still a mostly side character who has her own own off stories and isn’t really a part of the main cast like Daisy theoretically is, and 2, there isn’t a limit on how many characters can be loving and supportive and not a completle cunt. Basic Human decency is not a limited resource. resource.

People like the idea of Spider-Man.
They don't necessarily like him or his content. It's why Marvel keeps thinking it needs to change Peter to fit what people love about him at this particular second.

Except, to most people, Spider-Man is nothing more than "guy in cool suit who swings around and never gives up."

>for a time
Less than 30 issues.
Teenage Pete is literally just a meme. He didn't even get funny until he was in college. He was a whiny cunt even as Spider-Man in high school.

I don't understand why we can't get Star Wars and Marvel summons. It wouldn't be hard to put them in and the hype generated would be incredible.

Spider-Man shoots webs that cause bind, Darth Vader acts like Odin and makes a single attack with his lightsaber that has a chance at instant killing.

This is true. But teen Peter with a little darkness and edge would fit the theme of Kingdom Hearts better than Adult Peter handling Riku and Sora like the kids they are. Plus I want to see Riku and teen Peter get annoyed at each other.

>Except, to most people, Spider-Man is nothing more than "guy in cool suit who swings around and never gives up."
And that's pretty much all you need to insert him into a crossover like Kingdom Hearts. That may make him flat, but he's not the main character.

Ultimate Spider-Man doesn't count?

True. I've been reading those Marvel Epic collections, and teenage Pete was one bad day away from being a school shooter.

I just want to see Teen Spidey web Riku's mouth as soon as he starts self loathing again. Anytime Riku talks it's annoying imo.

How would Kingdom Hearts change if Sora never forgave Riku until KHDDD or KH3?

>You lost your powers over darkness? You sure you didn't lose your powers over dignity?
>You get that sword at a discount Halloween store? Yikes. And I thought JJJ was cheap.
>I'm sorry are you talking to me or just quoting more emo poetry to yourself?
>You two are from other worlds? Oh I get it. You're from a world where people think that's cool to dress like that!
>This all stems from you not having a night light as a kid, doesn't it?
>Do you dye that hair?

Hahaha

I was just criticizing Marvel's need to pull Peter back to a period that didn't really exist.

Around when Pete got married the "back to the good ol days" meme got rolling. Lead to Untold Tales in the 90's, which was good but a little wonky. Ultimate continued the trend by starting with a teen Peter and never moving on, and Marvel arbitrarily decided that Peter is now a strange exaggeration of Ultimate Peter (who's very unlike the original) as an adult. Because "muh glory days" that didn't exist.

>First story is tragic hubris.
>First pages of ASM 1 have Peter contemplating robbery, only backs out because of his aunt's opinion of him.
>Gets his girlfriend's brother killed, just gets angry and blames him for getting in the way.
>Doesn't even really move into actual jokes rather than petulant whining until the first Goblin story.
It's pretty interesting.
Peter becoming Quip-Man was a reflection of him starting to grow up and improve his self-image, even if mostly as a hero.

Eh, I tried.

Still good.

>This all stems from you not having a night light as a kid, doesn't it?

Alright. That legit got a kek out of me. Just imagine him saying this in the middle of one of Riku's spiels about light and darkness.

I hope Barret is in KH3 as well.

Barret: Boy, if you don't shut up about light and darkness I'm gonna hurt you...