Suffering Chart 2.0 Part 3

Goofball
S: 10
D: 55

S:20
D:15

Karl
S:50
D:90

Bean the Dynamite
S: 0
D: 20 or 30

I'd suggest moving Kitty lower on the chart. She didn't suffer that much.

Vinny from Atlantis
S:30
D:35

Guy doing the chart here, I was just about to make the thread so thanks.

Here's my progress now.

Suffered 30
Deserved 45

S: 10
D: 65

Welcome back

20, 20 is Coach from Left for Dead. Isn't he a video game character?

Move Little Bao from 85, 90 to 85, 100

S: 45
D: 20

S: 30
S: 60

Name?

S: 35
D: 65

S: 55
D: 35

S: 60
D: 90

Claire from the summoning

Verminious Snaptrap
S: 55
D: 70

Is that pilot even out yet?

Is this too high or is it okay?

Suffered: 30
Deserved: 20

Suffered: 25
Deserved:20

No it is not

S: 15
D: 75

That spot's already been suggested.

Suffered: 75
Deserved: 30

Not edit user, but I think it's a bit too high, not only because she seems to live a decent life right now but it's obvious she's hiding something and we don't know how bad it is.

S: 95
D: 95

S: 90
D: 25

S: 65
D: 85

She does deserve to be there. I just don't know where.

Since that spot seems to be taken then I'll suggest moving Vinny to 30/30

Im struggling to think 100 deserving worthy villains considering most of them are on the original chart. At least in terms of cartoons

S: 20
D: 35

S: 45
D: 35

The Violator or Sebastian Shaw?

Why 100?

S: 10
D: 45

Suffered: 90
Deserved: 30

President bussiness
S:35
D:95

Its the most interesting category for me. Specially now that its up to 80-100 in terms of deserving. We have to think of really evil fucks who deserved what happened to them

S: 15
D: 75
(If she deserves to be 0:100 I'll delete her)

Do you mean 100 in terms of the top row/rightmost column, or in terms of the amount of characters?

How much has sebastian shaw suffered in the comics? In the movies he suffered like 30 and that spots taken

100 in terms of the last row from down to up. The row with HIM and syndrome and the lich

There's only like 3 more empty spots in that one, not counting the corners that are saved for the end

Honestly if you moved Kitty down, then I feel Frankie from Foster's Home should be moved down as well.
Maybe down to 50 and move everyone else up

Yeah i know. I wasnt talking about 80 characters left i was talking 80 in terms of suffering

Stick Figures (Stick Figures on Crack Trilogy)
Suffered: 100
Deserved: 30

S:75
D:100

Bluster Kong from DK the series
S:40
D:70

Been watching this thread since this effort started, thank you user for continuing this.

S: 30
D: 75

Who's the guy at the very bottom left anyway?

Ghost did nothing wrong and Magneto was right
Stark is just an asshole

I feel like Madrimar belongs somewhere but I don't know where

Herbie Popnecker

Where would you put this guy?

S: 5
D: 100
The Warden almost never suffers yet any suffering he gets is never enough considering how many people he's killed, maimed or mentally broke no thanks to his nonsensical whims, all while that happens The Warden believes he is doing something good.
Truly the most delusional and evil character.

You could fill the entire top left and top right corners just by using Endtown characters, leaving a big gap between the two

On the first chart.

Shannon from ok ko
S:45
D:40

Roboking from the Katamari webcomic
Suffering: 45
How Much They Deserved It: 20

Allmighty tallest
S:40
D:90

lol

Chart guy here. I've honestly been having a lot of trouble today keeping up with everything, is it possible that someone else with Photoshop can take things from here starting with this thread? I just don't have the time.

I can but right now im not at home. Not sure when ill be back.
But when i return i can take it.

Is there a lit version of this chart?

dead thread

Suffered: 30
Deserved: 85

Kitty has suffered more than she should.
>Assignated with a retarded partner because of a lucky event he had.
>Partner usually hurts her more than any other villain.
>>This includes making her get run over by a car, bashed by a wrecking ball, getting beaten up by a group of children, put her on the rooftop of a building that fell down, and much more physical slapstick.
>Partner keeps ruining the missions because of his childish needs.
>Couldn’t get a decent birthday party since her childhood.
>Her mother prefers her twin sister who happens to be in jail, over her.
>Partner sent a copy of her diary to everyone’s e-mails.
>Partner emptied her bank account for his own pointless purposes, such as making himself a dress made out of bills, which he later burned down.

Sounds like 60 is good.

...

Suffered: 65
Deserved: 90

Too many trolls in here. Not a good idea.

S: 15
D: 85

What do you mean?

S: 80
D: 66

(Necron 99, from Wizards)

That's supposed to be 60, not 66. Sorry, typo

Suffered: 80
Deserved: 65

S: 50
D: 60

S: 75
D: 30

Aren't Starscream and Megatron on the first chart?

I Think zim was too

Bill's on both charts

Should we bother keeping the thread alive until then?

i just came back home so yes

Who's S:10 D:50?

Alright, then. Anything you need help with?

not at the moment, only to say that
their spots are taken and
i would count that as games cause the character isnt exclusive to the comic,it came from the game

Just so you know, Bill (the one from King of the Hill) is on both charts, so maybe he should be removed from the current one. Might be a few other characters like that but I'm not sure.

Wesley Meros from The Cyanide & Happiness Show
S: 100
D: 90

what spot is he in

85, 75

taken

Then S: 90 D: 20 for Bliss

>S: 90
Really, now?

>Khonjin
>Strong Bad
>Max (Camp Camp)
>Jelly Jamm
>Redd
>Goddamn FRUMPLEQUEST

I love it already

Alone in a island for years

She thinks she is a danger to her loved ones

Why?

taken

By who?

frankie
also
is taken by some butch hartman character

How about 40, 25 then?

Updated. Im not the original OP but im taking over for him,at least for now

>Malware Suffered 90
>Lich Suffered 90
>Rob Suffered 85
Come on now

So, any disputes with placements on this chart? Just for the sake of something to discuss

do keep in mind we take suggestions and put them in. If you think they deserve other places you tell us how.
Also the lich becoming a pure hearted baby is the worst thing that could happen to a being of pure evil

>that horrible cropping and placement
Oh god please bring OP back.

What's wrong with the placement?

You're gnna need to align the pics with the borders but otherwise good job
Also, Snively for S 85 D 75 now that Bill's gone?

They're not in the lines, some of them don't even fill out their squares/go into other squares.

yeah im working on it. not the best in photoshop but ill try to clean the borders so it looks better

Okay.

Suffered: 65
Deserved: 90

Is that better?

Wait I'm sorry I meant Deserved 95

Updated and some lines fixed. Gonna work on it.
Also if you notice a character from the previous chart, let me know

Megatron and Starscream are on the first chart (although Starscream seems to be a different version so I don't know if that changes anything)

Theres still 85+ spaces left. This will probably take a while.

Still, it's close to full

well if its a different version i guess it kinda counts (cartoons and comics can be different, there are skeletor comics where hes an actual threat for example)
im erasing megatron if hes the same

Suffered: 95
Diserved: 25

Remove the guy at S35 D65. His pilot isn't even out yet, it's literally based on that one image.

taken,and by a cat also
ok

Move Little Bao (the Asian screaming kill) to suffer 100

Suffering: 25
Deserves: 20

There's been like two suggestions for that already
Not sure why neither have been added yet

with more fixes

Frozone for S: 25 D: 20

Commander "Angel" Furfur from Floraverse
S: 35
D: 85

I'd kick Eridan's deserved and suffering up by 15

Make that S: 15 D:25 then

Christ, why is this particular spot such a popular choice.

S: 100
D: 90

S: 0
D: 20

(Bunny and Claude, from Looney Tunes)

S: 10
D: 60

No Cred Forums creators

S: 0
D: 45
(The cultists surrounding the dog, not the dog himself.)

Because most of the spots in that corner are taken.

Move Phanty to S25, D30. Other people were suggested in that spot before her.

Technically not a creator

>the characters don't fit in the spaces
Me
S: 100
D: 70

S: 45
D: 55

D: 10
S: 75

S: 15
D: 55

Sorry screwed up
S:10
D:75

S: 45
D: 60

S: 25
D 60

Update:Im gonna call it off soon, but if you keep sending requests and keeping this thread alive i'll add them tomorrow.
If anyone else can do it before i do then thats cool too.

when i said call it off soon i meant "going to bed soon"

Looks like it's close to finished

Protip.
Resize the icons to 97x97, then just slot them in pixel perfect. As you add images, it gets easier to add more in just right, because the layers are designed to try and align with each other in Photoshop.

Jodocus de Jood
youtube.com/watch?v=tMyE4y5pRkM
Suffer 30
Deserve 80

Suffering: 100
Deserved: 50.

Could I suggest Dante for
Suffering: 40
Deserved: 35.

when you say icons you mean the images? In the photoshop im using the images enter if they are like 3,49X3,25
thanks for the help

S: 100
D: 55

Okay
S 40 D 85 for America

I like this thread

Going to sleep guys. See you tommorow

Sounds pretty good

D:50
S:100

Hey bud Im the one who requested for Skeleton King to be in 100 suffering and 15 deserved
I just wanted to say that you should replace it with his human form, as it would be more appropriate

Coraline should go at 25: 30, right below Vinny.

He was on the original chart

Coraline was on the first chart

bumping to keep it alive

I like this chart more than the first one

>Half of the characters at suffering level 100 don't suffer as much as most of the characters in the 70-90 range

Every time.

S: 85
D: 60

Nighty night.

Also, where should Eric Cartman go in this? He wasn't in the first image.

He actually was

>Eddy's brother
>10 suffering
he acted like a hot shot in school but ruined his own life as an adult. he suffered decently well

Sheen from Jimmy Neutron
Suffered: 15
Deserved: 35

S: 100
D: 45

What examples of this are they in this chart if you could explain?

Bump

spades was already there

John Egbert for
S: 100
D: 5

>saves the multiverse
>his dad still dead
>everyone happy except him
>still has birthday banners hanging up three years later, nobody goes to his parties anymore
>gets all his friends killed over a con air reference

wasnt she a sadistic bitch?

bump

Good morning

Jestro
S:75
D:55

And the similarly named Jethro for
S:25
D:30

Mavis Dracula
Suffering: 40
Deserved: 40
Just to finish the equal S:D slots off.

Update

3 columns (10, 15, 20) and one row (75) down, well done!

To try to cap off the OK KO characters:
Fink S:15 D:25

Sorry m8, taken by Frozone. One below is free though.

Suffered: 70
Deserved: 95

Garnet I'll put at S:20, D:30

Sorry, I meant deserved 45

I gotta do something but ill be back soon. Keep sending requests.

Mind moving Fink to D:45?

ill do it when im back from what i gotta do

Got it. Thank you

The Hood
S:35
D:80

Beth and jerry from Rick & Morty

jerry is on the OG chart i think
beth where?

S:40
D:50

Im back

S: 85
D: 90

S: 60
D: 55

S: 15
D: 35

S: 35
D: 65

S: 55
D: 50

S: 100
D: 5

You nailed it, but sadly he's already in the first chart.

Having internet problems so the chart might be a bit delayed

TTGO Raven
S:60
D:55

already picked

Wasnt he on the original chart?

I fixed somewhat my internet problems. Im gonna need confirmation if was in the original chart since i dont read homestuck.
Also,no autors.

Also,if youre gonna propose
S:5 D:100 or
S:100 D:100 or
S:100 D:5
You have to add a description on why since those are the biggest ones

S: 10
D: 35

S: 5
D: 40

Update

S:95
D:25

taken

...

>Awful Hospital
Ew

So is a character at, say, 100, 5 not suffering but they deserve to be suffering? Or are they not suffering but also fully deserve to be not-suffering?

my bad
S:100 D:5 means he suffered plenty and didnt deserve it. If its S:5 D:100 it means its an evil fuck who got away with everything

What about it?

The first one.

D:25
S:10

It's bad and I don't like it.

added

>gets blown up, torn apart, crushed etc. in almost every episode, sometimes all of the above at multiple times
>constantly belittled (and beaten up) by the other Predacons, Maximals even acknowledge him as a universal punching bag
>gets possessed by the ghost/spark of Starscream for no good reason and is predictably blown up again not long after
>is the first to incur the wrath of Rhinox's chainguns o' doom
>quits the Predacons on account of being blown up all the time and gets shot anyway
>supposedly gets a happy ending but is later beaten up by proto-humans and forcibly launched into space
>has his spark taken and turned into a vehicon general who still manages to be largely incompetent
>ends the Beast Era by being turned into a wasp with the head of a bike drone and being swatted away like garbage
And all because the writers hated having to write for him so they took great delight in making him suffer

Why's that?

S:95
D:90

added

I think the "ask the audience" format is worse for telling stories than just writing them out, a lot of the writing feels smug to me and I just get weird vibes from most of Johnny Bogleech's material when he writes female characters as almost flawless or at worst "subverting expectations". I don't know, I feel he has some real weird issues regarding masculinity and it shows through his writing and various other ramblings I've seen from him.

added

Trying to work out who goes in
S:80, D:90
S:70, D:55
S:15, D:50
But coming up short, any ideas?

Would he fit for S:70 D:55?

Yep, and Lord Hater for S:80 D:90

It's better to fill out the extremes and the diagonals first so it's easier to gauge where everyone else falls.

i think hater is in the original one? someone check that

S: 0
D: 100

nah

Here

Don't see him in the original chart, too late anyway.
5 columns and 3 rows done, good work.

S: 0
D: 35

I thought we were saving the corners for the end.

that wasnt in the original? i remember someone requested that one in the thread for the first one

that was the original OP but if most people want it to save it til the end we will. I personally think i can put it as long as theres justification

S: 65
D: 90

I think we oughta save it for the end, personally

I didn't see him in the original

Already taken, spot below at 85 is free.

Allright we´ll save the corners for the end, but i allready have one candidate ready.

S: 25
D: 40
>Keeps treating his son like shit despite the fact it's obvious he doesn't care about old tech, and also blows up some dudes car with an IPOD

How is your image placement getting worse? It's not even close now.

I miss the original OP

Im trying my best and cleaning what i can.
If you think you can do a better job,be my guest. I'm not a professional in any way, i just took over from him.

Original OP here, I'm sorry I haven't been able to devote my full time to this. I respect the new chart guy a lot for taking it up. I'll try my best to clean the chart up and make it look better when it's filled out.

S:90
D:35

added

S:85
D:65

geronimo stilton
S: 90
D: 35

spot taken by

shit I just saw the other one
change it to S: 95

Allright, i think i found a way to add the images and make it cleaner.

S:95
D:40

added

May I suggest a 100/100?

sure but its gonna be saved until the end and voted by at least the majority of people on the thread

If we can nominate corner choices for later, then I would like to suggest Dex-Starr for S:100 D:0

Okay, for a 100/100 I'd nominate Johnny from Jhonen Vasquez's Johnny the Homicidal Maniac.
Suffering:
>Mentally unstable to the point where he has multiple voices in his head berating him delay, telling him to kill himself.
>Can't sleep at all.
>Shot in the head and lived.
>Every time he wants to die he can't.
>Debated if he actually became a homicidal killer of his own free will or if some benevolent force made him.
>Literally died and went to hell.

Deserved:
>Name makes it obvious.

He could also work for
Suffering: 90
Deserves: 100

taken.
if johnny loses the 100/100 nomination it will be 90/100

S: 60
D: 85
Also, I think you accidentally moved Lori one spot to the left.

>not making the corner spots voted on
C'mon son.

no,i meant as nominations taken. The corner spots are still gonna be voted by the end

Ok

Suffered: 90
Deserved: 60

...

added

Oh if we're gonna do Vasquez characters, maybe Squee for Suffering 100, deserved 0.
I mean it's Squee, that's the whole point of the comic.
>Is pure sweet innocent little boy.
>Mom too doped out of her mind to raise or notice him.
>Dad literally hates him and blames him for everything wrong in his life.
>Parents regularly tell him to get kidnapped.
>Lives next door to Johnny (it feels weirdly fitting that Squee and Johnny be on the chart across from each other).
>Bullied like no one else.
>Grandfather tried to eat him.
>Said grandfather turned out to be a cyborg.
>What ever the fuck is going on with Shmee.
>Only person who's nice to him is a homicidal maniac and the actual Antichrist.
>Get's abducted by aliens.
>Experimented on.
>Still goes to school next day.
>Dust mites try to kill him.
>Dog starts to like him. Get's hit by a car.
>In the end, he's assigned to a mental institution just cause fuck him.
>Is like...10
Being Squee is suffering.

yeah he definitely counts as a candidate

S: 85
D: 95

Update

There is way too much ok ko

S: 10 D: 5 isn't an e-celeb?

One guy was spamming it

I have a nomination for S: 100, D: 5

On the first chart.

yes but its a fictional character. Its like zone tan, except for kids

Can we replace some of them? I think I have a better character for S: 60 D: 10

Gary from TripTank

well the submissions are made by the people on threads so i dont think its fair to just knock some down because they are from some show. OK KO is a popular show and none of those characters where on the original thread. Plus i do think Mr gar deserves that spot.
You can suggest that character for some other spot tho

OK KO isn't popular enough on Cred Forums to have 11 characters in the chart

The spots that Gary could use are already taken

Jethro doesn't even have self awareness, why is he even there?

12*

suggestions are suggestions,but since a majority wants a change,fine,ill add gary.
Just keep in mind the chart is a group effort, its not a objective chart. If someone says pinky S:40 D:30 ill put it,even if factually its wrong

S: 25
D: 75

This film's reception

S:100

D:50

thats funny,but it doesnt count.

Who would win?

Last one of today. See you tommorow

Win by what?

In a fight

Easily number one for having bill cipher and aku

Bill Cipher got killed by two geezers playing the old twin switcheroo.

Good point but the first one still has more powerful characters

number 2 has black hat and that OP superhero at 0,90 so....

So if you had to pick one row or column and fuck every single character in it, in order, which one would you pick?

>all of them have at least one child or animal on them
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>mcu killmonger
>100 deserving
>suffering began way before he ever did anything to deserve it

voted by people in threads. thats how it works.
Keep in mind the original chart says Tamatoa deserves more suffering than Hans

Ok then, this is super dumb. I'm out. I thought this was going to a be genuinely autistic attempt at classifying this shit with debate and not just democracy of the plebs.

It's also sort of hard to quantify characters who only did things to deserve their suffering as a direct result of their suffering

>I thought this was going to a be genuinely autistic attempt
that sounds even worse than a chart made for fun. Also

Honestly I'd say MCU Zemo is in a weirder place being near max deserving and relatively low suffering for someone who lost his family and tried to kill himself.

Personally, I'd like to discuss which characters belong where instead of just submitting characters without any discussion

hes not 100 because he lost his family,but he wanted revenge against the avengers for letting his family die, causing a chain of events that leads others to die. Just because hes tragic it doesnt mean hes not an asshole.

Well like most people here don't recognize half the characters and just sort of give them the benefit of the doubt that they're accurately placed.