Let's start this with more casual discussion : >what are you watching right now ? >favorite sequences/animation from the show you're watching right now ? >what are you going to watch in next seasons ? (reasons, expectation)
Also, feel free if you want to continue the discussion from yesterday News: >Flip Flappers advanced screening (episode 1-4), on September 22nd (Thursday).
Guide: Not really needed, but you can use this if you are completely new to this : pastebin.com/9VE9NwnQ
The effects animation in the PV could be Chiba's own work. It looks a lot like his/her work in the Maken-ki 2 finale.
Asher Rivera
awww that's painful to read.
Do both, learn fundamentals when practicing your sketches and just draw stick figures or equivalent when practicing motion.
Cameron Phillips
Why is sakuga community so shitty
Isaiah White
Because sakuga was a mistake.
Daniel White
ISO was a mistake
Austin Parker
anyone have useful chart from old archive like this ?
Oliver Sanders
>more Berserk
ayy, kViN on suicide watch
Brandon Anderson
What is it? The best animation of their era?
Jason Harris
Influence chart
Elijah Green
Flash is shit (unusable brush tool)
TV Paint is okay (crack it)
Evan Davis
what kind of pen tablet recommended ? are the cheap ones okay ?
James Morris
I have a common Wacom Bamboo (~100$ or less), but there's a nice guide on /ic/ about that (never tried the cheap ones they recommend though, but it seems okay through their testimonies).
Christian Jenkins
It's okay, he's irrelevant now.
Joseph Price
okay, thanks for the advice.
Jayden Phillips
Btw I read your post a bit fast but flipbook is okay to get a feel for it I guess, you can wait to buy the tablet
I thought you were talking about a real flipbook (which would be fine too but a bit limited)
Isaac Morales
Now I thought you were talking about flipnote so I still didn't got it.
Flipbook isn't quite practical, better crack TVpaint if you're gonna buy a tablet
If you have a 3DS try flipnote first, if you have a (not pen) tablet, like ipad, see if there's an animation app or something and try to make a diy stylus
Disney's best 2D animators never fail to impress. Why don't Japanese animation studios use those slanted desks? Looks a lot more ergonomic than the normal ones that force animators to hunch over.
why this guy mostly only worked on douga ? is it because people find him will be difficult if he's promoted to genga ? (because he seems to be huge Ohira fanboy?).
Nathaniel Scott
やはり時代はアイドルアニメーターか…
Jaxson Campbell
wacom are kind of standard though if you're on the cheap get Huion tablet.
I've got CTH-480 from wacom and the H610Pro from Huion both decent in my eyes and can do the job for digital animation else paper and pencils "2B".
Daniel Roberts
He's probably just new, give him time. If fellow Ohira follower Toya Oshima can do regular KA, I don't see why this guy can't.
Jason Martin
Wouldn't H, 2H, etc be better for the clean lines needed in animation?
Also a light table or something, at least, would be useful.
Sebastian Lopez
But I think he's been too long for doing that. Even I can't feel a thing from his recent output on Mob. It feels like he wants to be Ohira MK.II but people restrain him because it could be difficult to handle (in many ways).
Asher Howard
Not really H or 2H, from experience with a cheap china LED lightbox. You would like to have darker pencil shades so you can see the lineart from the previous layer with it maxing out around 3-4 layers.
One thing important for clean lineart is that your pencil is sharp and of a good quality.The rest is your own drawing prowess.
I recommend 2B Mitsubishi Uni/Hi-uni else get a 2B Staedtler Mars lumograph
Gavin Parker
I can't imagine a production like Mob restricting the creative output of its animators. Maybe he's not fast enough to animate in Ohira style on a TV schedule? Anyway, it's great to see another Ohira follower. It's a very interesting approach to animation.
Isaiah Roberts
Yeah you might be right.
Do you know if "pegs" to attach the sheets are necessary on a DIY situation or you can replace them with something else?
Tyler Parker
Ummm for me I just leave it as it is, though I guess you could staple it near the top to make it like a pseudo-peg/clamp.
I do more detail drafting/linework on paper but for most of animation practice, I try to use tablet since it's quicker for setting up everything and checking the motion of the cut after drawn. I'm still kind of new at it.
Nicholas Jones
This is one legit situation where you can call out forced animation.
John Jackson
You're too used to limited animation.
Juan Clark
The first two pokemon generation shorts are out but no staff credits yet.
Andrew Reyes
It's beyond a question of full/limited, animation can be full without being that exaggerated and goofy. See Le Roi et l'Oiseau and early Toei douga).
Sebastian Butler
Friendly reminder that Kouno-chan is no longer pure and you're a cuck
>the shit that killed him was the slide show known as dennou coil If anything sakuga Iso wasn't the mistake, director Iso was.
Luke Sullivan
Sakuga thread is behind the animators who are good at mechanical things.
Hudson Reyes
Disney animation isn't often overly exaggerated though. Looney Tunes fits that category more.
Ayden Phillips
On what basis are you hyping up flip floppers ? Is it a remake of Hakenden directed by Nakamura with Yuasa, Iso, Okiura, Ohira and Utsunomiya given each an episode ?
Owen Reed
It's Kiyotaka Oshiyama's series director debut and Takashi Kojima is the main animator. There are rumours about Iso being involved with the project as well.
Ethan Moore
>slide show >Dennou Coil Surely you jest.
Daniel Jackson
they only care about animation
Jeremiah Sanchez
山田尚子 is cute! CUTE! (*^_^*)
Sebastian Sullivan
That's not Yamada.
Nathan Roberts
this is yamada ya dweeb.
Eli Long
BASED ADENOID
Dominic Long
Is this the general circlejerk?
William Long
Yes, welcome. Feel free to namedrop your favorite animators.
Probably not but it will look good nonetheless. When Mob is finished it will have like 120 entries on booru. Even if not all of them are that amazing its still a fucking impressive number. Would be cool if Flipfloppers can come close to it.
Nathaniel Anderson
I am so fucking upset about dinsey stopping 2d animation, the best of disney or american animation as a whole from decades ago is still better than any stuff japanese people can put out. Just look at the fluidity of the Fleisher Superman adaptation.
Brody Nelson
That doesnt mean anything if all these animators named will only be doing a few cuts. They are probably running out of steam by episode 4 and then come back every now and then with nice sakuga.
Jackson Collins
well maybe this is the wrong thread and wrong board for (You). >
David Cox
Westerners dont do it how they used to, only japanese sakuga can satisfy my hunger for 2d animation. I dont like what the west is putting out nowadays animation wise.
Caleb Sanders
What do you guys think about the French Tv series Wakfu. How did they acheive this high level of animation in a 50episode long series. Was it done with cgi or some tweening software. It even tops most anime in recent years. Sadly the direction, choreo and character designs suck, cant really feel the impact of the hits.
Parker Edwards
I saw like an episode, the tweening of it threw me off a bit. It's smooth yet static, feels like characters don't have any dimensionality/free degree of motion in their world.
Feels like watch a paper mario anime in my opinion.
Josiah Rodriguez
fuck off to your kyoanus circlejerk thread
Adrian Brown
>I dont like what the west is putting out nowadays animation wise. The problem is even if America doesn't do traditional animation anymore the countries that still do have the same habits that drive me up a wall with anime. Tons of clearly cgi shit clashing with the hand drawn visuals.
The west used to be very careful and very deliberate to sneak cgi into traditionally animated features (and hollywood very very deliberate about cgi combined with traditional vfx). These days fuck it who cares if it clearly looks pooped out of a pc.
Jason Richardson
>that moses movie Yea its a really sad state in the world of animation for 2d fans, i wonder what i would do if Japan stopped producing 2d anime and went completely CGI. A part of me would probably die with it.
Henry Nguyen
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Henry Jones
Why? The point of the post was conflating the issues facing both Japanese and Western animation as largely the same (with the exception of America where it's actually just dead).