Shiki

Did he know that? Did he ask her anything to confirm she was a different person? Plenty of people have died and come back to life before, why just automatically assume she was a different person? Or a "vampire"? No, just skip straight to the murder and torture, like a healthy and mentally sound person.

Vampires aren't people, user.
Stop listening to that faggot monk's lies.

it's people like this than want to make me distant myself for this show, the discussion forums are CRAWLING with this faggots shiki apologists who cant even understand something as simple as causality.

Doc. is a hero, it was a war on survival.

>"Torture"
Yhea user, that's exactly what he was doing, he was "torturing" the shiki.
You retarded turbomongrel

Right. I don't think they should have stood around doing nothing either. What I would have done in his situation, for instance, is keep her alive, and maybe, I dunno, do some research on her. Explain what was going on. Maybe indoctrinate her to be a spy?
Oh sorry, my mistake. I thought that's what we called injecting people with toxic chemicals and poisons.

Happy the eternal loli survived with her new Werewolf BFF. Was kinda happy to see him reck the Gorilla drunk on bloodlust.

Years later and I'm still mad.

>Did he know that? Did he ask her anything to confirm she was a different person?

You can't be this retarded. He was only experimenting her because he KNEW for a fact she was a shiki. He doesn't need to talk or anything since it was visibly clear and he's seen the traits from others. His wife is dead as much as you want to spin it.

>Explain what was going on. Maybe indoctrinate her to be a spy?

That's stupid.

He's a doctor who needs to preserve lives and not risks his dead vampire wife purging more people in the village due to random bloodlust. Matter of fact is he already did his testing on her too.

>Anyone else watch this here?
Lurk more, newfag.
>the love of his life
Was she? She was kind of a bitch even in life. 90% of the villagers were unlikable faggots, that's why I don't hate

I understand you want to do the whole "distance yourself from the enemy" thing user, but really? A few words, to the person he supposedly loved more then anything in the world? They had memories from being alive, you do remember that, right? Instead of interviewing her, figuring out a few more things instead of "hard to kill" and "stake through the heart works", he went straight for the extreme option.
While I agree with your point about preserving lives, maybe if he had played the long game, and gotten some more information maybe they wouldn't have had to burn the whole village down.
At the very least they could stand to be around each other enough to get married. That's at least worth a few words about how sorry he is he has to do this. Instead we get a fucking psychopath.

She wasn't even human anymore. Talking to her wasn't gonna get any worthwhile results.

You keep acting as if he truly loved her and wasn't some chick he ended up being arranged to. All the conversations he had with her in the show were shallow as shit.

Anyways he doesn't need words from her and needs stuff he can see and actually test on which he did. In his head she was dead like all the other Shiki's he's seen.

>A few words, to the person he supposedly loved more then anything in the world?
The worst thing he could have done was try to communicate with a potentially manipulative Shiki. He already knew they were cold-blooded murderers. So what good would have come out of a discussion with her? Worst case he might have decided to let her go, or felt remorse for his experiments. And since it was a life or death scenario, those were not options.

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>maybe if he had played the long game

Yeah let's keep delaying shit so more people die.

What fucking information would his dead wife have? She's just some chick that was infected. There's no guarantee she'd work with him too since she's a fucking blood thirsty shiki.

>Shiki thread
>People's Glorious Revolution nowhere to be found
for shame Cred Forums

Obligate MACHINE OF LABOUR

communistmind

Commie mind

Well, good for him. Glad he can shut off his humanity like a light switch. And not even human anymore? At what point did his interaction indicate this much?
He didn't have to let her say anything, I'm saying he could have, at the very least, talked to her, told her he was sorry, or some shit.

It didn't matter in the end. He lost, and unleashed the vampires back onto the world, instead of making sure the job was done. So fuck him for halfassing the job.

mind mind

Man, they just slaughter the vampire villagers for way too long. The point I guess.

*At what point did his interaction with her indicate this to him?

> Shiki thread
> MACHINE OF LABOUR is not the first post
Just disappointing

>maybe they wouldn't have had to burn the whole village down
But Ozaki didn't burn the town. It was someone who went crazy because the vampires killed her whole family. Did you even watch the OVA?

>shut off his humanity
>against a non human

Wow imagine being this dumb.

Why the fuck should he say sorry? The one he married is dead and he's just going to talk to a monster.

>he lost

He was the fucking cause of the whole fucking village rebelling them. Without him they'd all be dead less than halfway in the show.

>I'm saying he could have, at the very least, talked to her, told her he was sorry, or some shit.
If you absolutely have to do something potentially cruel, then opening up yourself emotionally is not the way to start. It will just make it harder on yourself. Think of it as if he was a soldier, and they were at war with the Shiki. You don't see soldiers breaking down emotionally before they do what they need to do. Because it might prevent them from doing it at all, and that's not an option.

He wouldn't have lost if it wasn't for faggot monk. In fact, the whole town would have lost if it weren't for his actions. Thanks to his investigation the villagers knew how to counter something that they never even knew that existed.

Did they ever give a good reason why Blood Donations wouldn't work?

Because the Shiki didn't want to drink from them.
Their whole plan was to make a shiki village by attacking indiscriminatedly against the humans.
They never wanted to negotiate to begin with.

>shiki's need human blood to live
>move to remote village
>yeah lets turn everyone in to a shiki

This is why women are terrible leaders

Sorry, it has been a while. I think if they had contained the menace properly though, they could have put out the fire, or the women would have not gone insane with grief, or something, you know?

He could have done a better job. Here, I'll set it up so you can understand it. You have a wife, yeah? Or your waifu, whatever, the one you love most in the world. One day you fall ill, you die, and then you come back to life! Great, right? But you wake up in a dank basement, and your lover is standing over you. You can't move, you can't speak, nothing. Then, she injects you with poisons, chemicals, and it hurts, a lot. But you can't do anything. All the while, she is ignoring your muffled cries and screams for her to stop. But she just keeps going, on and on into the night. Then, finally, after hours of pain and suffering, she takes a stake and a hammer, and smashes the stake into your heart, killing you. No words, no kindness that you remember her for, nothing. Just death, and torture. Not a good feeling is it?

I'll admit that you have a point about opening yourself up to weakness. But even if it was some random bystander who I had never met before in my entire life, I would at least explain myself to them before staking them through the heart. As a person, I feel like I owe them at least that much.

Yeah we got it.
If it were for you the whole town would be dead.

Nah, if it were me, I would have let someone with a military background figure out a way to infiltrate, and annihilate every single one of the vamps in there cozy little mansion, and not have let a single one escape, thereby eliminating there cancer from the land, including my best friend. Also, I would have said sorry to someone I loved.

>He could have done a better job.
Yeah go and tell me how you would have handled it? You would have let her out free just so she can bite your ass in the back because of your dumb decisions.

And yeah go and tell someone that they died and became a vampire and you have to kill them. That sure will put them at more ease because I'm sure they'd be so understanding and start begging even more and bringing up shit that'll make you emotionally weak and cop out.

Get real sometime it's better to not say anything in that situation and boy do i have to say it again? His wife is dead to him. There's a fucking reason why he treats the shiki so cold since he only sees her like the other blood sucking monsters that took villagers and his wife away.

Tops the most hated character ranking.

No, after some consideration, I suspect it would have been a mercy killing. But again, the fact that he treated them so coldly was a mistake. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a duck. Acting like the enemy are just monsters with no human feelings makes you a weak hunter. If you acknowledge that they have human feelings, you can abuse that. For instance, instead of outright killing the bad dude's wife, why not kidnap her, and use her for bait? Or torture her some for information? Or whatever. You kind of see where I'm going with this?

He definitely loved her. It's kind of hard to tell and the way she acts might skew your impression, but he loves her. He did what needed to be done though.

You don't even need donations. The shiki just need to not feed on the same person several nights in a row. The loli was just a tremendous fucking retard and thought she could exterminate an entire village instead of blending in. Her getting away with it is one of the biggest "fuck you"s to the audience in anime history.

>For instance, instead of outright killing the bad dude's wife, why not kidnap her, and use her for bait? Or torture her some for information? Or whatever. You kind of see where I'm going with this?

He couldn't have kidnapped her peacefully dumb fuck, the only way for him to possibly get them found out and get the villagers to understand they're real was for him to expose her and once that is done the villagers would definitely kill her regardless. At this point they knew where the head family was anyways so any information was just useless since he would have had all he needs and all the knowledge he had from wife testing and the gay kid.

Kidnapping her just risks her managing to get away once she baits some other dumb villager to letting her go for a retarded reason and then kills him.

The openings are my favorites.
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Supposedly they had some system in place to ship blood to the village after everyone was dead. It was still tremendous stupidity on their part for thinking the villagers wouldn't investigate after losing half their fucking population in a matter of weeks.

They had her cornered, user. No where for her to run. She wasn't superhuman. And they could have figured out the layout of the mansion, and make sure head vampire couldn't get away.

>the fact that he treated them so coldly was a mistake
Someday
Sometime
Somewhere in your life please experience war, Or get some actual KNOWLEDGE. Then comeback and maybe you'll see how easy this situation plays out.

user, I have been closer to death then I quite care to remember. I know the difference between closing off your feelings and pulling the trigger, and remembering that the enemy has a human brain in their skull.

She's a fucking vampire, there's no point taking risks against such a being.

Who cares if one manages to run away? They're killing all the ones in the village and if they leave it's a plus for them. The shiki will be too scared to come back or get BTFO again and they'll die out in city.

Oh RIGHT! The CITY! WHERE PEOPLE DISAPPEAR EVERY FUCKING DAY!

You do realise that they came to a remote as fuck village since they can't live in the city right?

Why are you so vehemently defending your point? Are you a Shiki? It's okay, you can tell me user.

Only because they're idiots.

What is my point exactly, user? Because I'm afraid not one person in almost any of these threads has ever quite understood what my point is.

Well duh? They came to a village to kill of its own livestock. They were never intelligent and will get themselves killed off outside.

Yes. In spite of the fact that they had "human intelligence" they never thought about maybe living on the outskirts of a big city, isolated enough where people wouldn't be able to just wander into their house, but close to a place where people go missing all the time so as not to arouse suspicion. But no, they went to a fucking village, where everyone knows fucking everyone. That is one part of the story I could never really swallow.

>maybe, I dunno
Exactly. So shut the fuck up and let the doctor do his work.

>betray everyone
>get to become a super vampire
>get loli vampire pussy every night

You really can't be much more of a winner than him.

I wish the novel would get licensed or something

Having the MC die and stay dead halfway through the story would have been more interesting

Except he did.

His wife was already dead.
He already saw what becoming a Shiki did to you from the previous night when he saw Nao on his window smiling like a devil.
So he simply shut off his heart and did what was necessary to finish off the Shiki.

>let someone with military
What? Good luck trying to convince someone about "vampires" without getting escorted to a fucking asylum.

That's more because your point is incredibility convenient and stupid.

Did you even read anything after that bit? Also, "I dunno" was hyperbole, not literally I don't know.

>his wife was already dead
Dead people don't say hi, don't wave at you when you walk down the street, they don't love or hate, and they certainly don't cry and scream and beg for mercy.

Oh really? Tell me more about what I'm thinking, since you seem to know so much about it.

>Nao
>kind hearted woman
>now a blood thirsty whore smiling through windows and shit, trying to kill her motherinlaw
Just because something can smile, say hi or even cry doesn't make them the same person.
Those the Shiki killed, died. It's as simple as that.

Except for Tooru. And Natsuno. Oh, and Ritsuko. And Nao, if I recall correctly, killed her family in an attempt to bring them with her. She failed, and went insane. Fairly understandable. Not justified or forgivable, but understandable.

Until episode 18, I was genuinely starting to believe it was going to end with "Welp, everyone is dead or a Shiki. Roll credits".

So glad it didn't end that way.

>Dead people don't say hi, don't wave at you when you walk down the street, they don't love or hate, and they certainly don't cry and scream and beg for mercy.

And they also don't go sucking blood out of random people because muh blood.

He's seen how they are and knows his wife is never coming back and all that's left is a blood thirsty beast.

One of the most redpilled character in the medium

You do realize that they were the natural predators of humanity right? No matter how nice they are, or human they might seem nothing changes that fact.

You're basically a seal feeling bad for a killer whale after it just ate your family because it smiled or something.

Except you're wrong. They are all clearly capable of rational though, and of resisting their urges. The overwhelming majority of them choose not to do so, but that's besides the point. Instead of talking to his wife, he tortures and murders her. I really don't get why you're trying to defend him and make him out to be some kind of not-psycho, when he clearly is fucked in the head.

I guess you haven't been following along, but I am fully aware of the fact that most of those vampires were cancer that needed to be wiped from the face of the earth. But instead of treating the ones that acted human humanely, or at least ending them kindly, they were all rounded up and slaughtered like animals, burning alive in the sunlight. They didn't ask to be monsters. None of them did. Also, the head vamp got away and all their efforts were for naught, now she'll go to another village and fuck them up too.

He's also successful writer and filthy rich.

>They are all clearly capable of rational though

Yeah until the moment they need to really drink some blood.

Why the fuck should he talk to her is what i don't get. He was torturing her to experiment and it was only a shiki so it doesn't matter if it was gruesome. His wife is dead as fuck in his eyes.

You keep acting like he did anything wrong like your dumb ass suggestions were remotely better.

>didnt ask to be monsters
Doesnt change the fact that they very much are monsters. If they have any semblance of humanity left, they'd sacrifice themselves like that Nurse did.

You are literally viewing things from the perspective of a reader and expecting characters to act accordingly. That's fucking stupid. As far as the Doctor was concerned, the Shiki are coldblooded monsters who're killing humans and what's worse, they're using their human appearance to trick their friends and family first.
So, not just monsters but despicable monsters.
That's why he apologizes to his wife as she dies. Because of his inability to save her.

Fucking dirty Shiki Sympathizer

Fuck all of you guys. I'm not even the priest, but I'd still save the cute vampire and make her happy.

I just think he's crazy, is all. I don't see what's so hard to get about that. He knew literally fuck all about these beings up until that point, and the first time he gets his hands on one, it turns out that it's his wife! And what does he do? He tortures and murders her, without a shred of remorse or sorrow.

>If they have any semblance of humanity left, they'd sacrifice themselves like that Nurse did.

Not necessarily. If your new boss told you you could live forever, and you knew that the only way out was to kill yourself or starve to death, I don't think the vast majority of people would take a whole lot of pushing to become monsters.

Also, again, his wife. Turned into a "monster". Scared out of her mind. Torture her, then murder her. How are these not the sign of someone insane?

>So glad it didn't end that way.

Would've been better than the 8 episode gorefest the show turned into.

The whole point of the show was to show that Japan's villages were killing themselves through being both incredibly insular and vicious busy-bodies who need to stick their noses into everyone else's lives.

>He knew literally fuck all about these beings up until that point

Okay I'm seriously done. You now are trying to bullshit and say he didn't know what they were like until then proving you forgot shit.

And stop friking acting like he was only torturing for fun.

based gramps did not deserve this

Burn all Shikis

And murder your (once) fellow humans? Fuck you faggot. Die in a fire.

>for fun
Never did I say that. I said a small, microscopic part of empathy on his part would have been nice. And he had never gotten his hands on one before, and instead of treating her (his wife) like a human being, maybe figuring out a way to use her to get to the rest of the vamps, he tortures and kills her.

weird. i thought about rewatching this earlier today. i'll take this post as a sign to go ahead and do that. thought this was a gem at the time too.

AIYASHI

nice blog faggot

>better than the 8 episode gorefest

ok not bad 6/10

>experiments on test subjects is eeeeevil

Fuck off luddites

Is Tatsumi the most fashionable anime character ever? I loved this guy
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