Dragon Ball Super

David Ramirez
David Ramirez

SPOILERS OF CHAPTER 16 OF SUPER DRAGON BALL

- Kibito and Old Kaioushin were also killed by Dabura!

[- That moment (battle with Dabura), Black had already "born" and Beerus would be a problem for him more than whis!]

- Before the future of Trunks collapse (NEW), Black killed the Kaioushins Gods and Destroyers of ALL WORLDS!

- Zamasu is a former Kaiou North!

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Gavin Jenkins
Gavin Jenkins

ZAMASU

Jaxon Gomez
Jaxon Gomez

How does gowasu turn into black

Isaac Morales
Isaac Morales

So Beerus is confirmed to be the strongest god of destruction?
Did he not care at all that his brother got killed?

Gabriel Taylor
Gabriel Taylor

Useless forever ;_;

Lincoln Lopez
Lincoln Lopez

wtf black killed all the GoD's lmao.

surely he didn't fight them 1v1? probably used the kai loophole

Mason Jones
Mason Jones

Trunks ss2 looks so cool here toyotaro nailed it

Chase Gutierrez
Chase Gutierrez

Trunks' timeline's kai's are the same despite being an alt reality

Beerus would be a problem for him more than Whis

Whis is stronger though

Jayden Rogers
Jayden Rogers

who you calling useless?

Lincoln Bailey
Lincoln Bailey

what even happened to whis?
And shouldn't old kai still be sealed in the Z-sword?

Lucas Murphy
Lucas Murphy

old Kaio was killed by Dabla

Wasn't he sealed in the Z-sword still?

Cooper Martinez
Cooper Martinez

Do you think that when Kibito gets a super strike event in jap Kibito-Kai and Supreme Kai will get a dokkan awakening, especially since Supreme Kai is actually relevant again?

William Wood
William Wood

old kai in the z sword

I'm assuming it went like this

* Supreme Kai takes trunks and trains him a bit to be able to fight Dabura and Kill Babadi

* this involves training similar to what happened with Gohan

* He uses Z-Sword against Dabura

* It Breaks

* Old kai pops out on the battlefield

* They are both killed by Dabura before trunks can end it.

Jaxson Anderson
Jaxson Anderson

Lets just wait until the chapter drops out before spouting nonsense.

Robert Collins
Robert Collins

Don't be disappointed when they reveal he's not Goten.

Connor Bailey
Connor Bailey

the manga will never be weekly
feels bad man

Jayden Sanchez
Jayden Sanchez

The first two are confirmed

Its why trunks is so strong

David Martinez
David Martinez

Wait : SO THEY'RE REUSING THE POWERUP THEY GAVE TO GOHAN THAT MADE GOHAN THE STRONGEST NON-FUSED SAIYAN IN THE BUU SAGA AND GIVING IT TO TRUNKS

IT
NEVER
ENDS

Daniel Baker
Daniel Baker

Not that bad actually this has more pages than weekly and if we can get an increasment on the number of pages like 50+ that would be cool

Cooper Miller
Cooper Miller

No? Are you retarded?

Michael Bailey
Michael Bailey

Beerus just died then

Colton Bennett
Colton Bennett

Did Black killed the gods of destruction directly or just killed all the kaioshins?

Charles Wright
Charles Wright

based on his performance, I think they just killed kaioshins

Dominic Robinson
Dominic Robinson

I think he killed the Kai's. There's just no way for him to kill GoD's. The GoD's had their servant there aswell right? If Black killed GoD's are the servants just standing there and just leave afterwards? Not warning anyone and just let him do as he pleases?

Blake Jones
Blake Jones

That would have been better. Some Mystic SSJ2 Trunks would be far beyond SSJ3 though.

Eli Martinez
Eli Martinez

Old thread archived, is there a new episode today?

Xavier Fisher
Xavier Fisher

I wonder what was Whis' reaction when Kaioshin died and Beerus just disappeared. Was he like "oh ya, Kaioshin die"

Nathan Rogers
Nathan Rogers

No episode this week.

Nathan Cook
Nathan Cook

What is the source of these spoilers? I'm not seeing anything on Kanzenshuu/Hermes/Gojitaaf

Ayden Barnes
Ayden Barnes

They're from 2ch.

Thomas Turner
Thomas Turner

Mystic means having all your potential power unlocked within your base. Transforming into ssj is pointless as you have already reached your max.

Isaac Mitchell
Isaac Mitchell

If all the God's of Destruction can be dealt with that easily, that kind of makes them useless opposed to the huge threat that they initially were. Shouldn't they keep an eye on the Kai that they are connected with?

Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

Reminder that both Black AND Zamasu are under the control of Captain Chicken.

William Hernandez
William Hernandez

The power gap between the Kai's and GoD confuses me.

Kevin Sullivan
Kevin Sullivan

maybe kai should get swole so he won't be fucked when people hunt him down to get rid of beerus.

Jeremiah Davis
Jeremiah Davis

Wouldn't mind that actually

Oliver Taylor
Oliver Taylor

tfw no adventures of pan, bra, and marron anime/manga

Noah Baker
Noah Baker

swollen kai intimidates
Look at what happened to the last buff kai. He got absorbed by a pink gum.
What still bothers me is that whis just let beerus sleep while kid buu went rampage on the kai's. Only explanation could be is old kai being safe in the z-sword.

Jason Cook
Jason Cook

Goten becomes Yamcha?

Charles Reyes
Charles Reyes

Dragonball sitcom with goten collecting them hoes.

Dylan Robinson
Dylan Robinson

I think that one of the Kaizenshuus said that Gohan could but didn't.

Joshua Ward
Joshua Ward

So, no episode today, right?

Blake Peterson
Blake Peterson

I really want kaioshin to get a dokkan awakening with this as his super attack.

Carson Garcia
Carson Garcia

asking every day won't make a week come by sooner

Ryder Young
Ryder Young

tfw GT Perfect Files says "He transformed when fighting with Goten after Goten had been taken over by Baby!! It seems that even in times of peace, he hasn’t neglected his training. The differences in Gohan’s facial expression's before and after transforming are the most intense out of any warrior!!"

Landon Ramirez
Landon Ramirez

every user is the same user
(You)

Angel King
Angel King

The actual explanation is that Beerus wasn't even a concept back then. So whatever explanation they try to come up with will always sound off.

The Kai are actually pretty strong all things considered. I doubt they ever thought beings like Black would come along. Though I wondered why Supreme Kai never bothered to train with all the time he had until Buu's resurrection.

James Wood
James Wood

they aren't or he wouldn't be using ssj2

Nicholas Rivera
Nicholas Rivera

They busy at creating shit and godtube is quote distracting. I mean some filthykai is funny as fuck.

Luke Kelly
Luke Kelly

But the Kaioshins are strong. U7 Kaioshin was apparently strong enough to kill Frieza (then strongest mortal in the universe) with one blast.

It's just that the powerlevels are completely fucked now.

Colton Moore
Colton Moore

Were you hit in the head?

Bentley Diaz
Bentley Diaz

Kaioshin is a little pansy who pissed himself at the thought of Pui Pui.

Thomas Edwards
Thomas Edwards

Well user, Frieza never trained. That and SS Goku was stronger.

Sebastian Rodriguez
Sebastian Rodriguez

being this new

Jacob Howard
Jacob Howard

Stfu newfag

Nicholas Flores
Nicholas Flores

He's strong but he doesn't train or we never saw him training and compared to zamasu Hes a total weakling

Jace Rivera
Jace Rivera

The god of destruction needs to be strong enough to destroy stuff with ease. The Kai just needs to be strong enough to do his job, whatever that is.

Brandon Cruz
Brandon Cruz

I think the point that user is trying to make is that Frieza was the strongest mortal in the universe for a long time before Namek happened. U7's Kai is supposedly supposed to be stronger than Super Namek Piccolo. In the grand scheme of things, he's still one of the stronger fighters around. Shame he never trained.

Luis Anderson
Luis Anderson

Kaiochannnnn

Jordan Richardson
Jordan Richardson

You might say Chichi was Wolf Fanged Fisted

Angel Gray
Angel Gray

The kai's job is to watch the failings of ningen and do nothing about it

Owen Howard
Owen Howard

And drink tea.

Asher Lopez
Asher Lopez

the kaioshins are the gods of creation. They create new planets and shit.

Ian Brooks
Ian Brooks

What does this mean in burgeranese?

Parker Wood
Parker Wood

tfw one of Yamcha's few victories in the entire series, movies and specials included was against loli Chichi.

He should just gather the Dragonballs and wish that he never existed. Literally nothing of value would be lost.

Hunter Torres
Hunter Torres

somewhere out there in the world yamchafags exist

Chase Richardson
Chase Richardson

Yes, just like Gohan. Goku's kids become Yamcha after a certain age.

Angel Davis
Angel Davis

There's no rule that says someone can't kill the God of Destruction. Is Whis going to step in to save Beerus when Goku gets around to smashing him?

Fuck no, they'll just find a new monster to do the job.

Liam Russell
Liam Russell

The GoD system neither cares that someone else is doing destruction, or that its individual GoDs might die.

GoDs are mere servants to a "greater" cause (that Goku must stop, because it's horrifying).

James James
James James

Acting like Yamcha can produce offspring

Nicholas Bailey
Nicholas Bailey

Yamcha owns. He cheated on the richest girl in the world repeatedly, and still hung around all the time afterwards.

Logan Scott
Logan Scott

Yamcha doesn't give a shit.He does what he wants. Lone wolf lmao

Evan Sanders
Evan Sanders

I didn't rule out that he couldn't kill the GoD, I just have a hard time believing that he was capable of doing that. I didn't think that Whis would step in either but if Beerus/other GoD's got killed, are the servants really just bolting out?

On top of that Black killed them without SS Rose which really doesn't sound right at all.

John Jones
John Jones

not all GoDs are Beerus-level (fat cat is a bitch) and Goku can kill him, so...

Oliver Brooks
Oliver Brooks

You got to give him some credit at least. He knew exactly when to back the fuck out of all the fighting bullshit. Besides he has Puar who can transform into any of the DB girls, probably why he's so content with living alone. He has a personal onahole that can transform into Bulma, Chi Chi,18 Videl and anyone else depending on his mood.

Daniel Reyes
Daniel Reyes

They rehashed Dabura again
Toriyama has literally run out of ideas and recycling hopelessly

Liam Johnson
Liam Johnson

Why are they taking fucking forever to just leak the chapter?

Landon Hall
Landon Hall

this has more pages than weekly
Not really. Weekly series get more releases per month and thus more pages.

16 (one in color) - 15 - 15 - 19 - 20 (one in color) - 19 - 19 - 19 - 31 - 31 - 21 - 31 - 38 (one double) - 39 - 39.

The last two DBS chapters were like getting only two WSJ chapters per month.

Luis Diaz
Luis Diaz

you're looking at it wrong, that's during majin buu in future trunks' timeline

Jordan Ortiz
Jordan Ortiz

manga revealing major plot points before the anime again

STAHP

Jack Torres
Jack Torres

Majin Buu Dabura?
Dabuura?

Ethan Walker
Ethan Walker

Fair enough. We haven't really seen what other GoDs can do so hard to tell about their strength. I just assumed they are strong enough to not die to someone like Black. Also, who were you referring to when you said Goku can kill him?

Anthony Lee
Anthony Lee

replying to bait

Logan Bennett
Logan Bennett

goku can kill who? champa was able to make hit piss himself and goku wasn't able to do shit against him. Don't talk shit retard.

Justin Lewis
Justin Lewis

It's the only way to answer questions the anime wont and to keep interest.

Jose Nguyen
Jose Nguyen

Too bad it's not canon.

Nathaniel Taylor
Nathaniel Taylor

No, he becomes Gine.

Nathan Garcia
Nathan Garcia

sry but manga (super) stays true to the original manga = canon
anime (super) toei trash filler =not canon

Adam Walker
Adam Walker

Black killed the Kaioushins Gods and Destroyers of ALL WORLDS!
what

Ayden Rivera
Ayden Rivera

google translator man it hurts

Brayden Brown
Brayden Brown

Leave Black to me!

Angel Williams
Angel Williams

Leaks fucking when?

Ryder Robinson
Ryder Robinson

Now now we don't want Gohan to get killed right.

Aaron Carter
Aaron Carter

implying the most powerful character in the db universe can get killed

Kevin Parker
Kevin Parker

the cancer that we got in the anime was unforgivable compaed to the godly fight we got in the manga.

Joseph Wood
Joseph Wood

Gohanfags, why do you like getting buttfucked so much. This is borderline masochism

Gavin Sanders
Gavin Sanders

Leave Black to meeee!

Cameron Allen
Cameron Allen

I can still go super saiyan! ...I think.

Chase Gray
Chase Gray

I remember during the stream everyone hyped for beerus vs champa expecting to see the manga adaptation animated but nope we got the cheap ass toei rendition. Everyone went mad haha.

Robert Howard
Robert Howard

I was paying attentio to this picture and I just realized why I like Gine so much: her eyes are similar to Mai's, excluding the iris.
I love these eyes.

Ryder Ward
Ryder Ward

implying the strongest needs to transform to whoop everyones ass

Kayden Hall
Kayden Hall

The anime really had no clue what the fuck to do. It may had acceptable artstyle but the choreography was piss poor even worse then episode 5.

Brandon Hill
Brandon Hill

Why is the Future Timeline so fucking unlucky, Cred Forums?

Jaxson Hughes
Jaxson Hughes

looped frames instead of good fight choreography
Top kek

Oliver Howard
Oliver Howard

dbgt design in dragonball.
manga dropped
you guys can keep your not canon trash

Nathan Hughes
Nathan Hughes

tatatatattatatatatata!!!

John Sanders
John Sanders

someone asked for looped frames?

Lucas Nguyen
Lucas Nguyen

Manga version

Juan Jenkins
Juan Jenkins

foreshadowing lol?

Dylan Cox
Dylan Cox

facebook image
lol

Jaxon King
Jaxon King

Well toyble fucked up,reusing those gt designs for the pilaf gang they shouldn be that old, especially Mai she almost the same age as bulma

Dominic Bailey
Dominic Bailey

this will become canon

Hunter Jenkins
Hunter Jenkins

god I fucking hope not. ssj3 was so stupid looking.

Jack Price
Jack Price

He probably reused the GT designs because he couldn't be bothered to make new ones that were going to used on a single panel only.

Dominic Campbell
Dominic Campbell

angry idiot gets upset over one of the best power multipliers but lets the blue multiplier off easy

Asher Adams
Asher Adams

tfw SSJ2 is getting all of this love and attention nowadays

Truly the best form.

Adrian Smith
Adrian Smith

Not at all, I'm passed that there is no visible difference between SSJ and SSJ2 but somehow SSJ3 gives you a fuckton of hair.

There has to be something between SSJ2 and 3

Alexander Sanchez
Alexander Sanchez

implying SSJ3 won't get more relevant later
Seriously if God Ki is about balancing you Ki, I could see all the saiyans achiving that power, and finally learns to put that form under control

Jonathan King
Jonathan King

when you thought you haven't seen enough bullshit but then they come out with this.

Kevin Diaz
Kevin Diaz

tfw you suck so much God makes you infertile to stop you from spreading your genes

Jordan Allen
Jordan Allen

Zamasu is a prodigy
Cant even fight SSJ2 Goku
Kaioshins arent strong

Charles Gray
Charles Gray

Seriously through just what is Broly in his Heroes forms? LSSJ3 and LSSJ4 or just SSJ3 and SSJ4?

Michael Sanchez
Michael Sanchez

He is a Kaio, so compare him to King Kai.

Jackson Hill
Jackson Hill

Beerus. Goku is already stronger than him.

Christian Moore
Christian Moore

They are god of creation.
They have no need to be as strong as the Z-fighters or Beerus and Whis

Kayden Morgan
Kayden Morgan

No visible difference

Yeah no. Pretty obvious with Goku, Gohan and Trunks. Only Vegeta is difficult to tell.

Juan Cruz
Juan Cruz

Dragon ball heroes is toei on lsd.

Mason Perry
Mason Perry

Reminder

Camden Bell
Camden Bell

goku has been stronger than him since the cell games lol

Brayden Richardson
Brayden Richardson

Casually blowing up planets is dumb. It's not even impressive or interesting any more.

Isaac Stewart
Isaac Stewart

butthurt Toeifag

Jack Allen
Jack Allen

Why have they not made Broly SSB yet?
Since they have given him almost all SSJ form, they might as well give him the whole package

Blake Cook
Blake Cook

There is no difference for Gohan and Trunks.
Only Goku who has just 2 bangs who straighten on SSJ 2.

Carter Collins
Carter Collins

There's more variation between SS in different episodes than between SS and SS2.

Noah Edwards
Noah Edwards

he cant reach ssg so no ssb for him

Grayson Smith
Grayson Smith

better than cheap ass lopped frame shit that we got. also check for better understanding.

and it's probably the first space battle we got

Andrew Young
Andrew Young

Trunks no. Gohan yes. He have that big hair line when he is in his SSJ2 form

Alexander Cooper
Alexander Cooper

Gohan looks a lot different in ssj2 during the cell games what are you talking about?

Colton Thompson
Colton Thompson

he doesn't say ssj

Lucas Torres
Lucas Torres

super saiyan
SS

Thomas Roberts
Thomas Roberts

user. There is no logic in Heroes. Some crazy villian will most likely make a wish to bring back Broly, but as a Super Saiyan God

Jack Adams
Jack Adams

Because I'm not Japanese.

Luis Rogers
Luis Rogers

saiyajin
he calls himself an animeman

Cameron Diaz
Cameron Diaz

when is drawn properly,Ssj2 looks hella cool like toyotaro does it,but most the animators just dont give a fuck about it they cant tell the difference.

Jayden Green
Jayden Green

What the fuck is up with short characters in Super?
Kaioshin and Krillin dont look right at al

Adrian Torres
Adrian Torres

For the love of All-Chan...

Aaron Bailey
Aaron Bailey

Talking about adult Gohan

Noah Gomez
Noah Gomez

Why dead future beerus doesn't just kill black and wish him back to life with the Namek dragon balls?

Important people like the north Kaio and the old-Kaioushin got to keep their bodies when dead, they was the same but with a halo above their heads, even Goku and Vegeta got to keep their bodies, why future Beerus don't? I'm pretty sure Beerus Ghost can defeat base Black before he gets the SSJR.

Hunter Miller
Hunter Miller

Because Beerus is a cunt

John Martin
John Martin

um

Connor Allen
Connor Allen

Beerus is too strong to sustain his body outside of hell

Nathan Martinez
Nathan Martinez

those shifty ass eyes when going SSJ

Josiah Garcia
Josiah Garcia

where do those side bangs even come from in ssj

Lincoln Peterson
Lincoln Peterson

because Toriyama is a hack

Colton Jenkins
Colton Jenkins

akira really has been watching too much french models. His designs all look like starving kids.
i thought only ssg would be the case to make it look siple but his ssblue design are skinny as well.

Noah Hughes
Noah Hughes

Too much Dragon Quest drawing.

Nathan Cox
Nathan Cox

Look at me daddy

Anthony Gray
Anthony Gray

Why does everyone in Super act as if Trunks future is their future

Logan Williams
Logan Williams

You know what would be funny.
If the SSG that Beerus dreamt about, wasn't Goku, but Broly.
If All-Chan toke his non existing ass from the filler world, and made him canon.

Caleb Baker
Caleb Baker

I feel as if all of the ssj transformations come with some sorta hair growth
except vegeta, fuck that guy

Jace Davis
Jace Davis

SS2 is my fav form because it's so similar to SS. One dramatic transformation is enough.

Subtle tweaks to show more power are good, suddenly growing 4 feet of hair is fucking awful.

Jacob Stewart
Jacob Stewart

Vegeta can't escape his balding

Landon Jenkins
Landon Jenkins

That would be dissapinting considering that Broly at full power is weaker than Cell.

Robert Wright
Robert Wright

reminder that kais are plants

Elijah Turner
Elijah Turner

kais are literally fruits

Daniel Nguyen
Daniel Nguyen

Why cant the girls still look like that

Owen Lewis
Owen Lewis

They don't look like starving kids. They look muscular, but slim. Which makes sense in a way. A lot of DBZ focused on cutting bulk for speed.

I don't like the designs, but it isn't totally nonsensical. Real-world explanation is that Toei just does what they want, though.

Parker Flores
Parker Flores

Isn't SSBlue suppose to be skinny? They don't need to be roided up. Wasn't that the entire point of god ki?

Parker Johnson
Parker Johnson

Reminder that true love always prevails

Eli Peterson
Eli Peterson

Too much effort to draw

Mason Davis
Mason Davis

This is fanart based on pic related.

Mind you its still good. But don't post it as if Toriyama drew it.

Jose Robinson
Jose Robinson

Yes, I do. Zenkai his way out of his mess.

Nathaniel Phillips
Nathaniel Phillips

i'd love to eat her pizza if you know what i mean

Jace Collins
Jace Collins

It still looks fucking identical

Logan Butler
Logan Butler

Considering how Toyotaro is pretty fanboyish, I think the manga will give some kind of explanation regarding why the dead haven't done anything in Trunks' timeline, unlike what we see in the main universe.

Still, you're ignoring how Beerus in that state wouldn't be able to just jump to Earth or anything. He could only face Zamasu if he went to the afterlife or the Kaioshin's planet.

Gabriel Nguyen
Gabriel Nguyen

Trunks and Mai is my OTP
but I still want to see F.Mai dying by the hands of Black, while F.Trunks watches it.
As he taps into a new power that counters that of the gods

Alexander Kelly
Alexander Kelly

could you please be more elaborate

Kayden Hughes
Kayden Hughes

They haven't given the new transformations to any characters yet aside from the avatars. I guess they don't want to step on the toes of what Toei or Toriyama might do.

Matthew Reyes
Matthew Reyes

Broly M10 easily beat a SSJ2 Gohan that was considerably stronger than Cell Games
Meanwhile Cell at peak was beaten by Teen Gohan at half of his power

Hunter Russell
Hunter Russell

That's too edgy for DB.

Ryder Lewis
Ryder Lewis

her name is ms pizza

Christopher King
Christopher King

For whatever reason, Toriyama changed how he drew Gohan's SSJ1, making it basically identical to his SSJ2.

Grayson Smith
Grayson Smith

wide hips and thicc juicy thighs

You have my attention

Benjamin Cook
Benjamin Cook

so we /supersaiyandevil/ now?

Nolan Johnson
Nolan Johnson

Broly M10 easily beat a SSJ2 Gohan that was considerably stronger than Cell Games
What? You do realize that the Buu Saga Gohan was weaker than Cell Games Gohan before getting the Ultimate power up, right?

Ryder King
Ryder King

It was weird, user

Angel Cook
Angel Cook

Bro have you even watched the History of Trunks?

Sebastian Anderson
Sebastian Anderson

Well thats because youngjijii spent a very long time learning to mimic toriyama just like Toyble.

Kayden Taylor
Kayden Taylor

Trunks and Mai is my OTP
Why don't you want to be happy user? Why would you rather have some powerup over THEIR happiness?

Carter Hall
Carter Hall

M10 Gohan mentions being considerably stronger than before. Movies do not follow the same rules as the manga, remider Goku SSJ3 > Mystic Gohan in the Movies.

Lucas Flores
Lucas Flores

So did Garland, user.

Eli Hall
Eli Hall

how strong is piccolo right now

Luis Gutierrez
Luis Gutierrez

Not nearly as good as the DBAF guys though.

Juan James
Juan James

DBAF guys
You mean Toyotaro?

Cameron Rivera
Cameron Rivera

DELETE THIS

Christian Adams
Christian Adams

Garland never is going to draw a Trunks and Mai doujin

Kayden White
Kayden White

so gohan only used ssj against dabura?
no wonder he was getting his ass kicked.
no problems going ssj2 to show off against kibito, but then against dabura or buu he can't go ssj2?

at least in movie 10 he used ssj2 against broly

Brody Bennett
Brody Bennett

when do we get to see dabura's son doing something?

Aiden Cruz
Aiden Cruz

youngjijii is the other big name who did AF he drew among other fanart.

Owen Wilson
Owen Wilson

They did do some tracing though, unlike Garland.

He recently posted a doujin involving Super's Videl. He's still alive, don't give up.

Jeremiah Wright
Jeremiah Wright

Stop it, let's not lose our hopes user!

Zachary Nelson
Zachary Nelson

For whatever reason he could not be bothered to go SSJ2 against Dabura but no problem demonstrating it for Kibito.

Jeremiah White
Jeremiah White

gohan literally NEVER achieved ssj2
he was just super pissed when be fought cell, fucking retards

Julian Allen
Julian Allen

Tfw dabura the king of demons acts like a better father than goku.
The guy is reading faust. Cheeky toryiama

Brody Long
Brody Long

You're right, user.

Nathaniel Lopez
Nathaniel Lopez

Tfw dabura the king of demons acts like a better father than goku.

Gabriel Perez
Gabriel Perez

Now that you mention it, Gohan in Movie 8 seemed to be the weakest SSJ, rather than the strongest so he likely was weaker than his Cell Games self.

Nolan Sullivan
Nolan Sullivan

Not canon.
Gohan after the training with goku surpassed him.

Isaac Hall
Isaac Hall

youre all arguing so much even though EVERYTHING after frieza is non canon lmao

Nathan Morris
Nathan Morris

Because Trunks fighting for his love would make great character development for our ship.
And I want Trunks to show the cold saiyan part of him that he has from his father. Give Black the same look that he gave the androids before blasting them to oblivion

Samuel Russell
Samuel Russell

If SSJ2 Trunks = SSJ3 Goku then does that mean SSJ1 Trunks = SSJ2 Goku?

Landon Turner
Landon Turner

You mean everything after pilaf arc.

Elijah Thompson
Elijah Thompson

why are people so fucking retarded, it's ssj2 full power trunks = ssj3 base goku

Juan Williams
Juan Williams

while movie 8 could fit in the 10 days waiting for the cell games.
there are a few things wrong with it
goku & gohan aren't ssj all the time
goku is stronger then gohan
vegeta behaves like he is the strongest.

so it's more likely that movie 8 happened in a time line where vegeta had not allowed cell to become perfect and instead destroyed him.

Jose Morris
Jose Morris

Okay so ssj1 full power trunks = ssj2 base goku

Jace Smith
Jace Smith

No, he definitely used SSJ2 when he fought Dabura. Goku thought he was using SSJ1, but Vegeta pointed out Gohan was in SSJ2 its just that he got weaker because he didn't keep up with his training.

Aaron Turner
Aaron Turner

No. Then why did Goku use his god form to beat Trunks?
You're implying a full powered ssj3 goku would be enough to beat trunks but it straight up showed he had to cheat.

Luis Edwards
Luis Edwards

There is no difference for Trunks in the anime, in the manga his hair is different.

Justin Morris
Justin Morris

this shows his hair was ssj style against dabura & buu

Aaron Kelly
Aaron Kelly

And I want Trunks to show the cold saiyan part of him that he has from his father. Give Black the same look that he gave the androids before blasting them to oblivion
Then they could make Black hurt her, put her in danger or something like that. They don't need to kill her off for that to happen. Trunks deserves happiness after all the shit he went through.

Asher Long
Asher Long

who gives a shit

Jace Sanchez
Jace Sanchez

neither goku or vegeta mentioning anything about ssj or ssj2.
goku thought he was holding back and wasn't angry yet.
vegeta mentions he slacked off and became weaker

Brody Diaz
Brody Diaz

The only explaination would be a Zenkai boost, but that still doesn't explain how he went from SSJ2 level to forcing Goku to use SSB to win.

Blake Wright
Blake Wright

jav code?

Dominic Price
Dominic Price

black ntr's trunks

Aaron Butler
Aaron Butler

SSB
It was SSG.

Anyways, back to my point. If Trunks fought Dabura in SSJ2 and claimed it was a difficult battle then wouldn't that make Dabura SSJ3 level?

Michael Brooks
Michael Brooks

What's taking so long?

Matthew Hall
Matthew Hall

this manga vs anime shit what the fuck is going on here

Jason Jenkins
Jason Jenkins

people with taste fucktard

Brody Baker
Brody Baker

hello my names kid buu I've heard you guys are having trouble with a green Kai. Would you like to use the kid buu extermination Kai services? y/n?

Ethan Walker
Ethan Walker

tumblr tier shit
gtfo here

Nolan Hernandez
Nolan Hernandez

Nah. Note that unlike in the anime, Trunks has his Cell Saga design there. So, some years probably passed between the Buu stuff and Black returning to Earth. I guess he only started his rampage through other worlds after Kaioshin and Beerus were dead, leaving Earth for last.

Camden Thompson
Camden Thompson

What if Dabura was stronger in his timeline. They did arrive later in his timeline, and Dabura was known to train the same way Piccolo trains

Joseph Williams
Joseph Williams

idiots like you need to fuck off

Anthony Butler
Anthony Butler

Why discuss things?
Stfu faggot

Levi Martin
Levi Martin

Before the future of Trunks collapse (NEW), Black killed the Kaioushins Gods and Destroyers of ALL WORLDS!

What exactly does this mean?

We've had translation mishaps before, is this that? Do they mean that Black and Zamasu have destroyed the kaioshins and hakaishins of all the universes in the future? Or do they mean only for universe 7?

John Bailey
John Bailey

Being this retarded.

Andrew Ward
Andrew Ward

y/n?

Adam Wood
Adam Wood

discuss what you idiots go in every thread and say the same shit fuck off

Gabriel Sanchez
Gabriel Sanchez

go rage on tumblr you spast

Joshua Sanchez
Joshua Sanchez

Can you stop your whining and just piss off.

Jack Price
Jack Price

You again, get out of here Zarbon! You ugly ningen

Charles Myers
Charles Myers

lol toei out did themselves here.
masterpiece.

Jose Sanchez
Jose Sanchez

Girl wearing boyfriend's clothes
It's a sweater
Partial nudity
Mai
Pubic hair
She's much older than him
Holy mother of erections

Kevin Cooper
Kevin Cooper

Partial translation of the speech Cap. 16:

[TRANSLATION OF PARTIAL ]

The image does not help much, but gave to understand some parts:

Pag. 1

Darbra: [What !? My body does not mov ...]

Kaioushin East: [Trunks-san !! L-Lance the final blow now !!! ]

-------------

Pag. 2

East Kaioushin: [W -... Well ...... With this, the world will be at peace ...]

Trunks: [Kaioushin-sama !!! ]

account Board: [So the ************* (is not that part readable) of Kaioushins. However, this is ********* (this part is not readable)]

Black: [Kukuku ... This is wonderful. The biggest problem ...... A world where God Destroyer Seventh Universe does not exist]

-----

Pag. 3 (?)

Part of another page appears in the photos. I identified more or less what is in two lines:

[However, if (s) Kaioushin (s) die (B), the dies also God destroyer]

[In other words, the true identity of Black's (?) Evil (of) God (s)]

Sauce: Raones Silva, Dragon Ball - Kami Sama Explorer (facebook page)

Camden Nelson
Camden Nelson

files.catbox.moe/20xags.jpg

Ethan Davis
Ethan Davis

Godspeed

John Sullivan
John Sullivan

The worst is this shit is not even fixed in the blu-rays.

Michael Adams
Michael Adams

Ugly
You never fail to spout shit, Zamasu.

Nolan Morris
Nolan Morris

No excuses yugioh is a long running show and the animation is always on point.

Jack Robinson
Jack Robinson

STOP ANONS, STOP
Tfw this reminds me of what I'll never have
Tfw race exterminated
Tfw Kakarot ahead of me all the time
Tfw replaced by much more handsome and smarter son
Tfw jobbing again
Hold me bros, this saiyan doesn't want to live on this planet anymore

Jack Edwards
Jack Edwards

still waiting for full scans
fucking gooks

Dylan Diaz
Dylan Diaz

That's from the movie not the show.

Josiah Baker
Josiah Baker

Not only that yugioh has no inspirational source either and yet they still produce good stuff.

Eli Moore
Eli Moore

i think they half assed it and not bother fixing it cause they think people would just rather watch the movie instead

Jaxon Rodriguez
Jaxon Rodriguez

Resurrection F retard not super trash.

Carter Thompson
Carter Thompson

You say that while posting the worst animated Yugioh anime. In fact, arc-v is the worst yugioh anime.

Xavier Fisher
Xavier Fisher

being this retarded
See

Ayden Nguyen
Ayden Nguyen

Well, be more optimistic user. In the future timeline, all the saiyans born from now on will be descendants of Vegeta, while Goku's bloodline died out.

Tyler Green
Tyler Green

What the fuck??? They fixed it?? Holy shit post more

Jace Foster
Jace Foster

qt daughterfu retconned out of existence
N-no...i-it's not fair..

Aaron Reyes
Aaron Reyes

there is no way someone can be this retarded in the whole universe

Anthony Turner
Anthony Turner

Isn't Bra younger than Pan? Maybe Bra wasn't born yet.

Isaac Hall
Isaac Hall

According to the wiki, "She is born six years after the defeat of Kid Buu."
six years
Super takes place a few months after Buu. She isn't born yet.

Aiden Hughes
Aiden Hughes

Get out you underage faggot

Evan Ramirez
Evan Ramirez

Yes, she is.

Luis Sanders
Luis Sanders

Get outta here, Zarbon

Dominic Bailey
Dominic Bailey

you guys ready for the SSj3 Vegeta dokkan event?

Jacob Bennett
Jacob Bennett

Champa arc movie when?

Jack Perez
Jack Perez

it's already been two years since the death of kid buu in the current timeline in super.

Jacob Collins
Jacob Collins

do you really think that face doesn't look comically large in that body?

Ryder Nelson
Ryder Nelson

two years
Still not six.

Nathaniel Sanchez
Nathaniel Sanchez

Nope, it's been 6 years since kid Buu died.

Carson White
Carson White

citation

Matthew Jenkins
Matthew Jenkins

Goku ssj3 wasn't losing that fight thou,he just decided to make it quicker and finish him off with ssg

Hunter Cook
Hunter Cook

Daizenshuu 7
bra was born in 780. That's the time where goku and friends are right now in super. So if vegeta doesn't gonna fuck bulma very soon. bra is gonna end up being retconned.

Levi Miller
Levi Miller

He clearly looked worried. He didn't even try to fight Trunks in SSJ3 form after Trunks powered up.

Thomas Martin
Thomas Martin

Black: [Kukuku ... This is wonderful. The biggest problem ...... A world where God Destroyer Seventh Universe does not exist]
Excellent...time to fill that role as the god of destruction of universe seven...

Mason Nguyen
Mason Nguyen

Why is there this one cancerous anti-Gohan fag that shitposts in every thread?

Probably a butthurt Cell fan.

John Gutierrez
John Gutierrez

Well done, user. You got me there.

Camden Morris
Camden Morris

Why future Trunks never went to Namek for Dende to get new dragon balls?

Kayden Rivera
Kayden Rivera

this user is right. kid buu died in Age 774. We are 6 years in already

Kayden Hill
Kayden Hill

You're right bros, there's still....a chance. Maybe...maybe I won't job in my next battle, thank you anons.

Cooper Jackson
Cooper Jackson

What if Bra is actually Future Trunks and Mai daughter?

Grayson Roberts
Grayson Roberts

I was just looking at the wiki of the future timeline and didn't know that Chichi was still alive, she seemed to live a safe life.

also why were the androids in Trunks timeline much more evil, in the regular timeline they were laidback and didn't really kill anyone.

Luke Clark
Luke Clark

this stupid question again

Blake Moore
Blake Moore

She's much older than him
both have the same age

Luis Bennett
Luis Bennett

They could just retcon her age, making her be born later.

Ryder Russell
Ryder Russell

why would they leave their daughter with vegeta and bulma?

Alexander Bailey
Alexander Bailey

Chronologically, she's over 30 years older than him.

Lincoln Robinson
Lincoln Robinson

Don't you have some tea to make?

Cooper Johnson
Cooper Johnson

I wish they did user. I miss the old THICC designs both male and females use to have.

Isaiah Baker
Isaiah Baker

I wish that all the people killed by the Androids in my timeline were brought back to life, also that my Mom Bulma was 15 years younger.

Easton Thomas
Easton Thomas

I don't mean Trunks must use then to revive the ones killed by the androids, I mean a set of Dragon Balls would be pretty usefull for Trunks, for example he would be able to wish Kaioshin back to life if he would have Dragon Balls on his timeline.

Gabriel James
Gabriel James

Yeah, it would make no sense. What's the point of repopulating if the kids won't stay in their own timeline?

Nathan Wright
Nathan Wright

It seems obvious that the reason that Black is in Trunk's timeline is because it's the only one without Kaioshin and thus a God of Destruction to get in Zamasu's way. That's the only reason to bring up Beerus dying because of our crappy Kaioshin.

Grayson Sullivan
Grayson Sullivan

Tfw replaced by much more handsome and smarter son
I don't think any normal parent would ever be genuinly sad to be surpassed by their children though.
It would be bitter sweet at best.

Joshua Wilson
Joshua Wilson

eh what about gowasu being dead in U10?

Andrew Roberts
Andrew Roberts

Zen-chan got mad and destroyed future Trunks timeline.

Xavier Lopez
Xavier Lopez

Was there no dragon ball super this week? I don't see any RAWs

Jaxson Sanchez
Jaxson Sanchez

Older women make my dick very hard so I like to believe that she is. Although I know that's technically not true, I just like to picture it that way when I imagine lewd things between them.

Andrew Diaz
Andrew Diaz

just gather the super dragon balls and wish lowkey the universe back

Michael Sullivan
Michael Sullivan

Of course Beerus was in Black's way of creating a utopia without niggens since shin died black would be extremely happy two niggen loving gods would be out of the picture of ruining his plans.

Samuel Scott
Samuel Scott

bitter sweet
Just like my life

Caleb Rodriguez
Caleb Rodriguez

Vegeta is very proud of his son, he would be happy to see Trunks surpassing him.

Leo Smith
Leo Smith

he's gonna piss himself

James Clark
James Clark

Was RoF the last time we will see the non Saiyans from the main cast in action? Piccolo's "fight" with Frost was a complete letdown.

Levi Cruz
Levi Cruz

Arc-V
Animation always on point
Fucking lol

Jose Collins
Jose Collins

Tfw race exterminated
so what,he doesn't care about his race exerminated He never did it actually
Tfw Kakarot ahead of me all the time
Well we still don't know Besides the kaioken wich is anime only theres no actual proof of goku being stronger
Tfw jobbing again
yes like goku and trunks

Noah Gray
Noah Gray

arc-v is the worst yugioh anime.
I want to disagree with you, but after synchro there really is no defending it.

Jaxson White
Jaxson White

They took a break this week.

Thomas Barnes
Thomas Barnes

They went unchecked in the future timeline and didn't have to deal with the threat of Cell.

Ayden Jenkins
Ayden Jenkins

if you could only fap to one character and only one for the rest of your life.

Who would you choose.

Dylan Reyes
Dylan Reyes

This manga chapter better be worth the wait.

Luis Bell
Luis Bell

Your mom.

Nolan Martin
Nolan Martin

You.

Cooper Collins
Cooper Collins

your mom

Carson Baker
Carson Baker

The fat faceless man

David Taylor
David Taylor

No, since I don't have him.

Benjamin Bell
Benjamin Bell

Gohanfag

Jayden Ward
Jayden Ward

mr satan

Michael Mitchell
Michael Mitchell

Failgeta.

Wyatt Price
Wyatt Price

It's pretty obvious who I choose.

Joshua Hill
Joshua Hill

Trunks

Joseph Morales
Joseph Morales

best girl

Owen Reyes
Owen Reyes

where's the monaka lewds? nipples are top tier

Ethan Hernandez
Ethan Hernandez

Leave my bet out of this!

Kayden Long
Kayden Long

On his ugly or handsome form?

Alexander Williams
Alexander Williams

I wonder how piccolo managed to not finish in hell

Ethan Ross
Ethan Ross

who do you think has the biggest dick in db

Cameron Ortiz
Cameron Ortiz

F. Mai dies from some future-disease
F. Trunks is forced to join the time police
Bulma and Vegeta adopt Bra
It all makes sense

Jackson Miller
Jackson Miller

Loli Mai

Jace Edwards
Jace Edwards

Probably as strong as Super Vegeta

Andrew Allen
Andrew Allen

SSBlue is really underwhelming.
Frieza Golden Form was stronger already.

Adam Mitchell
Adam Mitchell

removing his hair would give a hilarious head shape

Ryder Robinson
Ryder Robinson

Both.

Nolan Campbell
Nolan Campbell

Krillin.

Easton Reyes
Easton Reyes

He never killed innocent people as far as I know of.

Tyler Lee
Tyler Lee

he wasn't as bad, King Piccolo was the one who killed a lot of people, not him. Also he got Neil and Kami souls merged and they deserved heaven.

Justin Lee
Justin Lee

refined taste, user
piccolo

Kayden Martinez
Kayden Martinez

Good choice, user.

Luis Green
Luis Green

Zarbon. I swear to god you're on thin ice

Noah Bailey
Noah Bailey

Anime Dragonball Super is a piece of shit.

Confirmed by the creator himself.

Animefags live in denial about their lowest of low quality series.

As people have already pointed out before, pretty much fucking any series have better animation and drawing quality than DBS.

Ryan Richardson
Ryan Richardson

Definitely Trunks or Krillin

Dominic Gutierrez
Dominic Gutierrez

child of vegeta
no, vegeta probably has a tiny dick

Bentley Kelly
Bentley Kelly

But Trunks takes after Bulma, he has her THICK genes

Alexander Fisher
Alexander Fisher

I think you are underestimating his briefs genes.

Sebastian Stewart
Sebastian Stewart

Mai can confirm it.

Samuel Allen
Samuel Allen

But he is the grandson of Dr. Brief, who is known for his humongous bio-engineered dick

Isaiah Kelly
Isaiah Kelly

This. Briefs genes are dominant.

Julian Morris
Julian Morris

that image

Michael Morris
Michael Morris

N-no! Impossible! He....he has......at least he has the saiyan blood I gave him....right guys?

Jordan Kelly
Jordan Kelly

That is about it, guy.
Enjoy.

Chase Turner
Chase Turner

Dragon Ball Super threads
They always get me so excited

Easton Miller
Easton Miller

How hard is it to kill some monkeys, Zamasu?

William Hill
William Hill

who lost their child?

Cooper Campbell
Cooper Campbell

What changes?

Lincoln Lewis
Lincoln Lewis

who wins? no golden from frieza just the final froms

Wyatt Thomas
Wyatt Thomas

frieza with no training then frost obviously.
he was able to put up a fight with piccolo who is stronger than a regular sayian but keep in mind frost cheated to win if not piccolo would have won but still he didn't get totally outpowered by him.

Nolan Sullivan
Nolan Sullivan

Toriyama only expressed disapproval of the anime during the airing of the movie arcs, edgelord.

See you next week!

Eli Phillips
Eli Phillips

doesn't change the fact that he is right.
you can follow a show but also criticise it.

Christopher Nguyen
Christopher Nguyen

Oh, that's easy.

Frieza with training would win. Frieza without training would lose.

Jaxson Thomas
Jaxson Thomas

Piccolo was doing fine against Frost while Frieza destroyed him.

Jordan Rodriguez
Jordan Rodriguez

tori is bot :D

Jaxson Miller
Jaxson Miller

Goku's dead mom is the cutest girl in the series

Why is this allowed?

Andrew Garcia
Andrew Garcia

Frost

Kayden Harris
Kayden Harris

Zarbon, at least I'm still alive.

Dominic Lee
Dominic Lee

best part?
Pic related is Broly SSj4 Full Power. Only him has this form.

There is no brake on the Heroes Hype Bullshit(But Still Hype) Train.

Adrian Gonzalez
Adrian Gonzalez

god...vados looks so pretty in that manga shot

Kevin Gray
Kevin Gray

not for long

Angel Bailey
Angel Bailey

why couldn't toei just follow the manga's choreography?

Ian Torres
Ian Torres

are you for real? I can count the amount of lines used to draw her with one hand

Chase Fisher
Chase Fisher

I suspect they might want to give him Super Saiyan Rosé.

Then again, they are launching Super DBHeroes, so they could be saving God and Blue forms for later Missions

Joseph Diaz
Joseph Diaz

Hmph.

Lincoln Ramirez
Lincoln Ramirez

Go back to Parasyte

Anthony Watson
Anthony Watson

Because that would require actual effort on Toei's part. They know they can get away with it though. They hire amateur animators or outsource it, adding in a tight deadline schedule and you get what we have now. But Super is still one of the more popular shows airing in Japan right now, and ratings is all that matters to Toei, not quality.

Isaac Carter
Isaac Carter

You're next

Eli Lewis
Eli Lewis

ssj3 was literally the worst multiplier out of all the transformations

Samuel Long
Samuel Long

the ratings are actually worst when dragon ball kai was still airing but it's still top 10 i guess.

Jeremiah Adams
Jeremiah Adams

am I the only one that has piccolo as their favorite character?

Chase Cox
Chase Cox

gero created not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 beings able to kill frieza, a galactic emperor and supposed strongest in said galaxy
this guy was a genius

Parker Nelson
Parker Nelson

does that make Future Dabura more stronger than the "present" one?

James Barnes
James Barnes

nope, he's mine as well. I'm actually fine with how he is now too. the best fights always come from piccolo as well.

Kayden Sanchez
Kayden Sanchez

Except Piccolo almost defeated Frost, Toyblefags. Quit using the garbage DBS manga for your arguments.

Benjamin Hill
Benjamin Hill

Their programming to Kill Goku was a nice controlling influence in the timeline in which he was still alive. They got absorbed before getting too restless. Also had 16 to babysit.

Plus Trunks appearance altered Gero's actions.

Carter Carter
Carter Carter

He used Frieza's data after all.

Easton Parker
Easton Parker

I'm still mad Piccolo lost to Frost

Noah Moore
Noah Moore

Except Piccolo almost defeated Frost after he got the shit kicked out of him by Goku
ftfy

Quit using the garbage DBS manga for your arguments
It's canon, deal with it.

Dominic Hall
Dominic Hall

just you're typical shitposting.

Sebastian Robinson
Sebastian Robinson

You mean a Frost that was extremely worn down after fighting a much stronger Goku who who trained even more after the Frieza Arc? Stop shitposting.

Adam Fisher
Adam Fisher

multiverse tournament
universe 7 fighters are Goku, Vegeta and F. Trunks.

Calling it now.

Ayden Rodriguez
Ayden Rodriguez

If it's not related to Precure, Toei does not give even one fuck about the animation in 99% of cases.

Easton Carter
Easton Carter

I hope he gets at least on more fight. At least he doesn't end up like GT Piccolo.

Hunter Adams
Hunter Adams

Frost that was extremely worn down

Absolutely nothing indicated this you headcanon-spewing faggot. Goku wasn't taking him seriously and Piccolo almost beat his ass, the end.

Logan Hernandez
Logan Hernandez

join me you fucks

Leo Clark
Leo Clark

Meanwhile in Precure.

Asher Bennett
Asher Bennett

It's okay dad, leave Black to me.

Eli Perez
Eli Perez

No, he means a Frost that was one shotted by Vegeta with little effort.

RoF Frieza would shit all over Frost and it's not even close.

Nicholas Brooks
Nicholas Brooks

Frost because he has those pussy stingers obviously

James Bailey
James Bailey

one shotted by Vegeta with little effort.
little effort
So little he had to turn SSJ

Ryan Robinson
Ryan Robinson

SSJ requiring even a modicum of effort
in Super

Everyone point and laugh.

Luis Allen
Luis Allen

Atta boy, Gohan.

Ayden Mitchell
Ayden Mitchell

Is this from a movie or what?
Why does One piece and DBS look like shit if they can make this?

Camden Ross
Camden Ross

more like
Uhhh we're confronting Black tomorrow?
...
...
Sorry I can't make it tomorrow, I have a very important meeting!

Angel Green
Angel Green

What's the deal with Gohan? I get that he doesn't like fighting, I understand that.

But he still struck me as the type who'd at least put some minimal effort into keeping up his training. I mean, he even seemed to enjoy some of his fights.

Chase James
Chase James

being this retarded
wew

Nicholas Bennett
Nicholas Bennett

why does Gohan even work? Mr. Satan have a shit-ton of money anyway.

Camden Price
Camden Price

whoops

Evan Sanders
Evan Sanders

not having an argument

jej

John Long
John Long

SSJB
Pls when Gohan gets god ki he will not go ssjb like a pleb but he will become mystic god gohan who gets green hair with a purple aura as an homage to his master and second father picollo.
Also shut up I know what you are thinking.

Cameron Rogers
Cameron Rogers

Quit using the garbage DBS manga for your arguments
you mean it's wrong using canon ?

Zachary Price
Zachary Price

super flanderized pretty much every character

Isaiah Sanders
Isaiah Sanders

what do you guys think about dragon ball absolon?

Justin Watson
Justin Watson

super anime flanderized pretty much every character*

Asher Hill
Asher Hill

Haven't watched it.

Jonathan Garcia
Jonathan Garcia

The DBS manga is no more canon than the DBS anime. They're both just a bunch of fags taking general outlines from Toriyama and then expanding on them.

inb4 that one pleb throws that copypasta at me

Aaron Jones
Aaron Jones

WTF? I hate TOEI now

Carson Cooper
Carson Cooper

Not only was Cell Games Gohan stronger than Adult Pre-Mystic but Broly got a Zenkai from his injuries.

Nathan Fisher
Nathan Fisher

Toriyama actually looks over the manga and declines stuff he doesnt like

Alexander Hall
Alexander Hall

It's rather easily explained, Goku trained and got stronger by Wrath of the Dragon.

Jaxon Johnson
Jaxon Johnson

I wish we got this goku in super

Carson Gonzalez
Carson Gonzalez

Never understood this either. He married into the richest family in the world. I guess he still wants to be a scholar, but he could do that on his own. Like write a book about Ki so Earth isn't so defenseless the next time shit goes down.

Kayden Sanders
Kayden Sanders

How was Frost able to get as strong as Resurrection F Frieza anyway? I'm guessing he actually trained from time to time unlike Frieza.

Austin Hall
Austin Hall

last thing you want is more bad dudes running around shooting lasers at everyone

it's like a gun except you cant take it away from them and its a thousand times worse

Luke Turner
Luke Turner

That's what he does in the DBO canon.

Luke James
Luke James

and declines stuff he doesnt like

Not true. Toriyama actively encouraged Toyble to make up new shit and change things around in their interview.

People are dense if they seriously believe the manga, which has stupid shit like SSG coming back, is more """canon""" than the anime.

Jack Richardson
Jack Richardson

He was trained by a God of Destruction. He's probably his species' equivalent of a Super Saiyan God by this point.

Kevin Peterson
Kevin Peterson

Pretty much. He actually did the fighting himself as opposed to Frieza who just sat in his comfy chair and let his subordinates handle everything.

Daniel King
Daniel King

no gold

Thomas Evans
Thomas Evans

?

Carter James
Carter James

oh my god this looks so bad

Ayden Peterson
Ayden Peterson

Toryiama doesn't write him anymore, user. It's all downhill from here.

Cameron Wright
Cameron Wright

He doesn't like Super's iteration of Goku.

Lucas Gray
Lucas Gray

Piccolo didn't even fuse with Kami back when he was fighting with Frieza though. How can you forget something like that?

Leo Sanchez
Leo Sanchez

I didn't, I'm talking about RoF Frieza.

Nathan Price
Nathan Price

5 stupid saiyan fucks made Broly into a god
hue

Thomas Sanders
Thomas Sanders

Where is ChiChi?

Parker Collins
Parker Collins

Better?

Nolan Peterson
Nolan Peterson

Alright, which one of you was responsible for shooping this?

Carter Baker
Carter Baker

S-Sorry.

Hunter Lewis
Hunter Lewis

Holding the camera.

Hunter Barnes
Hunter Barnes

Ox-King would be doing that. Clearly Gohan didn't want her in it.

Lucas Gray
Lucas Gray

Did they say anything else about what happens in the chapter?

Cameron Fisher
Cameron Fisher

Because shit like ginyu filler,gregory,clone vegeta and the nonsense that you call ssblue kaioken is more logical?
The manga is canon because it hasnt contradicted itself with the original manga.

Levi Miller
Levi Miller

Still waiting

Lincoln Collins
Lincoln Collins

Ginyu filler
wasted the shit out of that.

Elijah Cox
Elijah Cox

Are you illiterate?

I didn't say the anime was "more logical", I said that neither medium is more canon than the other. Both Toei and Toyotaro take their own liberties.

Also the Ginyu filler and Gregory are just expanding on stuff that Toei decided to leave in Kai, just because they're not in the original manga doesn't mean they contradict it.

Kevin Torres
Kevin Torres

Yes it does does contradict since certain events in the anime never happened in the manga. Bulma knowing ginyu in the anime never happened in the manga for exemple. Which means the anime can't be considered a direct proper sequel to the original source material that is the manga fucking retard.

Christian Allen
Christian Allen

expanding
GT is just expanding on Z

Michael Reyes
Michael Reyes

Why does she always give Trunks this look?

John Martin
John Martin

Super anime is canon to the anime only.
And the super manga is canon to the manga.

Andrew Bennett
Andrew Bennett

you will never fight to death against a cute pink haired girl that will use smiles from time to time to throw you off your game.
just let me end this already

Gabriel Johnson
Gabriel Johnson

Yes it does does contradict since certain events in the anime never happened in the manga.

Holy shit, do you even know what "contradiction" means?

A contradiction would be something like the Z anime's depiction of Hell vs. Toriyama's imagining of it in RoF. Toei won't be able to use Z's Hell for Super because it would conflict with the way it's portrayed in the RoF arc. The Ginyu shit just expands on stuff that wasn't in the manga, it's not actually conflicting with anything.

Also the anime was never considered a direct sequel to the manga, in fact it was advertised as a sequel to Kai.

Jeremiah Diaz
Jeremiah Diaz

Toei can produce greatness if they want but the thing is most pro animators are hardcore otakus who rather work on drawing pretty magical girls then musclesheads.

Ryder Gonzalez
Ryder Gonzalez

Toei is being pretty inconsistent though. They included Ginyu and Gregory from the filler (also Satan's disciples and even showing Gregory in flashbacks blowing up alongside everyone else in the Cell Saga), but then didn't use the filler hell. They also seem to be ignoring their own "Great Saiyaman 2" filler thing with Videl.

Austin Diaz
Austin Diaz

Bedroom eyes, user. She gets wet at the mere sight of Trunks.

Jaxson Lopez
Jaxson Lopez

gooks why you no release chapter so i can translate.

Jordan Gomez
Jordan Gomez

chick in the mid
Who?
said toriyama

Angel Wright
Angel Wright

Yes, GT is a continuation of Z. What's your point?

Logan Gray
Logan Gray

Absolutely nothing indicated this you headcanon-spewing faggot.
I mean, didn't you see the end of the previous battle? If you're going by the anime, at one point Frost could barely stand up.

Aaron Mitchell
Aaron Mitchell

problem with super is that it's completely different than manga so it can't be canon.

Luis Kelly
Luis Kelly

Source?

Adrian Thomas
Adrian Thomas

It doesn't seem like Champa actually trained his team. He just picked random strong people.

Cameron Roberts
Cameron Roberts

Toei is being pretty inconsistent though

Not really because Super was advertised as a sequel series to Dragon Ball Kai, which DOES in fact have the Ginyu/Gregory filler but not the Hell stuff that Z did.

Basically, it's

DB > DBZ > DBGT

or

DB > DB Kai > DBS

Kayden Fisher
Kayden Fisher

Why does every DBS thread turn into a manga vs anime debate? It doesn't even matter since the core story is the same. Both Toei and Toyotaro take liberties with their interpretations.

Kevin Collins
Kevin Collins

you didn't see what's coming. too bad.

Isaac Young
Isaac Young

Ginyu still being around is a fucking contradiction by itself not just an expansion. After buu destroyed the earth only kind hearted people got resurrected.

Ethan Ortiz
Ethan Ortiz

It's almost always those two bickering. I miss Ginefags. Gonna post this.

Lucas Martin
Lucas Martin

Hope we get a good sword fight bewteen Trunks and Dabura. The anime fight was lacklustre.

Ian Garcia
Ian Garcia

Minus a fucking shit.

Luke Anderson
Luke Anderson

Why does every DBS thread turn into a manga vs anime debate?
Better than GT,waifu, and shipping faggots.

Matthew Davis
Matthew Davis

Not really because Super was advertised as a sequel series to Dragon Ball Kai, which DOES in fact have the Ginyu/Gregory filler but not the Hell stuff that Z did.
They kept Freeza and company watching Goku vs Kid Buu in hell for some reason, even though they previously had cut all hell related stuff with the past villains.

Daniel Young
Daniel Young

Bump limit reached, new thread

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credforums.com/thread/147406533/anime

Brandon Cox
Brandon Cox

After buu destroyed the earth only kind hearted people got resurrected.

Ginyu was a fucking frog, he was probably resurrected with the other animals which are neither kind or evil. It's not really that big of an issue.

Evan Taylor
Evan Taylor

Beerus claims to have wiped out dinosaurs on Earth. However, Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z show that dinosaurs still exist on Earth.

Beerus never said a shit like that in the manga but in the anime he does.

Dont be a bitch the anime is not canon.

Elijah Barnes
Elijah Barnes

Beerus never said a shit like that in the manga but in the anime he does.

No, he says that in the BoG movie you retard.

Super =/= BoG.

Aiden Wright
Aiden Wright

They kept Freeza and company watching Goku vs Kid Buu in hell for some reason

Did they? Because that's pretty retarded on their part.

Then again Buu Saga Kai was a production clusterfuck anyways.

David Miller
David Miller

That alone should contradict itself. Because of the differences in hell.
Super anime non canon faggot.
And dont give out that expansion nonsense sine gt is also an expansion and that shit is non canon. Toei incorporates filler characters that dont exist In the manga.

Justin Hughes
Justin Hughes

Roshi

Parker Cooper
Parker Cooper

maybe toei should hire gay animators that enjoy drawing musclheads fighting shirtless like in DBZ

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