Was this a metaphor?

Was this a metaphor?

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For rape, yes.

Sure

Finished watching it recently, enjoyed the shit out of it. Didn't think I'd like Rin nearly as much as I did.

Who killed Rider in the school? I assumed it was Gil at first, but Shinji makes no mention of it later and Rider wasn't turned into a pincushion.

If I recall correctly was Heracles.

It was Caster's boyfriend you retard. Can't see how the could have made it more obvious

Humans can kill Servants? I know that the teacher knew magic kung fu, but he was still just a guy.

webm of this scene uncensored?

Yes they can. Kiritsugu could kill a couple Servants.

Did saber like it?

Shiki can't keep up in a fight with most servants but he can kill them. The reason why Servants usually can't be killed by humans is because they're magical entities and only can only be damaged by other magic. Which is why Shirou can cut Gil at the end or why Rin can punch Caster in a way that hurts her.

Have you read the VN by any chance?

All you need is magic and you can kill a Servant, and Kuzki was enhanced by Caster's magic. Shiki is a whole different deal.

Nah, haven't yet. I've only watched Zero and UBW so far.

Yeah, she's a christ figure and this represents crucifixion. Fate symbolism is pretty straightforward really.

There's a poisoned dress in Medea's mythos that she used to kill off princesses.

Although honestly he shouldn't even be able to do that considering Gil is way faster and as strong as Heracles. But stats mean nothing in nasuverse so whatever. Also how the fuck did Assassin not destroy Archer he's a better swordsman than saber and she can beat him with relative ease.

Shirou was assimilating Archer's skills and his swords make him as strong/skilled as the original wielder of the sword. This is also why Archer can fight Assassin and he also has reinforcement magic.

I agree that people should not take the stats that seriously though. They seem to be just a gross simplification, like a ballpark measure. The only time they're precise is when it says something like "you need an X rank or above Y to do Z".

nothing. saber is more on the pure side so caster is trying to turn her sluty by giving her otherworldly pleasures to make her open to control

It's also a throwback to Medea's legend.

While servants are superhuman as fuck, the main reason behind "only servants can kill other servants" fact that is repeated constantly by everyone in the story isn't their combat capabilities.

They can only be harmed by other mysteries equal to, or stronger than them. Blasting a tank shell, dropping a nuke etc on the weakest fucking servant ever would still not kill them. Kuzuki bypasses this shit by getting buffed by Medea. So long as that condition gets cleared, something a weak as, say, a nerfed Medusa whom is incompetent in combat without her monstrous strength or abilities, or Medea in a fist-fight would be piss easy for a human to beat.

Kuzuki beating Saber was total lolnasu bullshit though.

I wanna sodomize Arturia!

What does her armpits taste like?

>his swords make him as strong/skilled as the original wielder of the sword
That's bullshit. If that were true why did Shirou train with saber and rider.

Archer has Mind's eye as a skill, which lets him bullshit his way out of match-ups hes supposed to lose.
Its like, the matured, completed version of Shirou's ability to get smacked around but still not decisively lose. That is probably how he lasted against Assassin.

He didn't know that by that point. And he only is as strong and gets the ability when he wields the sword. Do you understand that this is how Shirou uses Nine Lives in HF?

This is one of the criticism some people have for the UBW anime because it doesn't get this across at all. Whereas in the VN his internal monologue make this pretty clear.

Kuzuki beating Saber was by virtue of his weird fighting style that's unpredictable the first time you see it.

>Medea in a fist-fight would be piss easy for a human to beat.
If your buffed by magic sure. The weakest servant is still physically stronger than the strongest human.

>That's bullshit. If that were true why did Shirou train with saber and rider.

Because that IS bullshit. He has the power to activate an auto mode that makes the swords move on their own, but it's just an autopilot, he doesn't get shit in the way of stats or skills nor is it useful for protracted combat.

Assassin has Eye of the Mind(False) which is superior to Eye of the Mind(True) which Archer has. Still doesn't make sense.

cleanliness
who does not?

Caster is just a dramatic.

>Blasting a tank shell, dropping a nuke etc on the weakest fucking servant ever would still not kill them.
Alright, fuck this series.

Clairvoyance also gives tracking and heightened senses bonus. Mind's Eye + Clairvoyance is a pretty broken combo

DJLETE THISS

How high were Shirou's stats at the end of UBW, if made into a stat sheet?

same as whoever's weapon he has, duh.
NP: EX

It's because they are spirits, you wouldn't expect any of those things to kill a ghost either

But you can fuck them.
So what, is dick more powerful than a nuke.

>chaotic good

No

Yes. Look closely at her exposed undergarments and ask yourself: What could it mean?

You can fuck ghosts as well.

You have a point there, Saber cannot turn into a spirit form so she should be able to be killed manually
nothing can beat the cock

>Chaotic good

How the fuck is that asshole CG?

He didn't do what he did for edgy reasons. He genuinely wanted humanity to be better.

>Kuzuki beating Saber was total lolnasu bullshit though.
His fighting style is bizarre and unique, Saber wasn't prepared. Remember, she fights based on technique and experience.
After the first time, she would be ready to absolutely destroy Kuzuki, said so herself and Kuzuki realizes this when Saber gets back up and flees with Caster.

Anime just made it look like any old brawl, though.

His motivation is for humanity to overcome it's evils and mistakes.

He sure has a funny way of showing it.

Good on the alignment chart is actually being good not thinking you are being good.

I would say he is neutral evil or lawful evil

He's a king from 2700 BC Sumeria. He's pretty gentle considering.

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>Pure
>Let herself have a threesome with a Sword Autist and a Tsundere Witch

>Pure
>Arturia "I know how to please a man" Pendragon

So he can rule over it, though

What else is a king supposed to do?

Know the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow.

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To lead and guide humanity so he can protect it's future like he used to do. Say what you want about him he was the best King.

>Lead and guide humanity so he can protect it's future
I think you mean "murder anyone who dares to act against his desires, or if he is just bored"

He never did that. The worst he was, was a tyrant obsessed with wealth and fucking everyones wives but post-enkindu he was an literally best. Read some of the stuff from CCC to get a better idea.

If he crosses the line, all you'd need to do is summon Heroic Spirit Dennis, the bane of all kings.

He literally explains what he wants. It has nothing to do with ruling like a tyrant he just despises the current state of humanity and thinks that your average human is worthless and interchangeable. Don't forget that this is also Nasuverse, humans back then were a lot more "hero-like".

absolutely

5 minutes.

Could he finally end the violence inherent in the system?

If he isn't oppressed.

What other historical/mythological figures could be made into Gilgamesh level Servants? Only one I can think of is Sun Wukong

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Yes, humans can kill Servants. Especially pic related.

> Good
Chaotic? Yes.
Good? LOL

I think he'd be better termed Chaotic Stupid

> I'm better than everyone so bow or die
> not edgy

Well if you're a Cred Forumsermin then anything that isn't moe is edgy I guess.

Do the mongrels of this age truly not understand such a simple thing? It is the king's will which dictates what is good and evil.

What about the will of the people?

And what defines who the king is?

>Kuzuki beating Saber was total lolnasu bullshit though.
says the secondary scum

No it was just rape

If you are so great, then why your kingdom is now a shithole filled with muslims?

It is the people's privilege to serve me. I have no use for pathetic mongrels that would dare turn against their king.

Divine right.

What happens to my kingdom after my death is meaningless.

Because he's not there to keep them out. How shitty it is now is a testament to how good of a kind he was.

Man I can't wait for ufo to JUST Heaven's Feel.

It must be fucking raped. I will never cope with Fate and UBW having shitty adaptations if Heaven's Feel gets something decent and even better.

No Gods or Kings, only men.

>Stronger than Saber
>Saber is stronger than Shirou
>Shirou beats him
?????

No

>what is rock paper scissors?

Rin is a magus, not a witch. Ayaka from Prototype (at least at the beginning) and Alice from Mahoyo are witches. And I guess Tamamo and Mephistopheles if you count Caster-class Servants.

Rock–paper–scissors is a zero-sum hand game usually played between two people, in which each player simultaneously forms one of three shapes with an outstretched hand. These shapes are "rock" ( a simple fist), "paper" ( a flat hand), and "scissors" (️ a fist with the index and middle fingers together forming a V). The game has only three possible outcomes other than a tie: a player who decides to play rock will beat another player who has chosen scissors ("rock crushes scissors") but will lose to one who has played paper ("paper covers rock"); a play of paper will lose to a play of scissors ("scissors cut paper"). If both players choose the same shape, the game is tied and is usually immediately replayed to break the tie. Other names for the game in the English-speaking world include roshambo and other orderings of the three items, sometimes with "rock" being called "stone".[1][2][3]

The game is often used as a choosing method in a way similar to coin flipping, drawing straws, or throwing dice. Unlike truly random selection methods, however, rock–paper–scissors can be played with a degree of skill by recognizing and exploiting non-random behavior in opponents.[4][5]

I don't think EotM(F) is any better or worse than EotM(T) on the whole, it's just that Kojirou's is a higher rank that EMIYA's.

Not witch as in magic user. Witch as in an evil woman with no trace of human kindness.

He didn't do it for the sake of ruling over people. In Gil's mind, he ALREADY rules over people.

fucking secondaries
do you even know that gilgamesh was trying to save the people of fuyuki city from wormslut's killing rampage before he got devoured?

Shirou has the exact power for beating Gilgamesh

Because it pretty much destroy him and his muscles, when the swords are on auto pilot and try to do moves faster than what Shirou's body is able to handle, he has to pay the price fo it.

So using jujutsu means Tamamo is a witch now?

She's just a magus who can use a type of magecraft more "akin" to Japan, but still magecraft. They call it jujutsu to make a difference with majutsu, but both are magecraft.

I don't know abou Alice tho, how do they call her magecraft in japanse?

So with NP2, how much of a difference does getting to 200% make?

My Tamamo Lancer definitely feels stronger at NP2.

Alice uses jujutsu and is explicitly called a witch.

Casko can use Witchcraft with an EX rank, but refuses to do because it bring back bad memories for her. Same thing for her Shapeshift skill.

Tamamo a best

>wormslut's killing rampage
One thing's for certain, you haven't read the VN.

Well she did have the parts for a while

But he's just a regular human.

Sakura is evil.

hmmmm.... what could it mean...? hmmm..

No. He has magic.

Sakura was not in control of the Shadow.

Who has Unlimited Blade Works. Unlimited Blade Works beats Gate of Babylon

Maybe figures who are even older than Gilgamesh, like the first Pharaoh, Menes

>hurr durr it's angry manjew, not wormslut
if you're not a secondary try to read below mach 20 speed

So how does that make his desire for genocide chaotic good?

But he's human speed and human durable.

he's ubermensch user
for mongrel standard he's evil.
but for the world he's not evil

Funny, considering you probably CTRL'd through everything that wasn't an action scene and call the rest "cooking scenes".

If those "mysteries" are created through human belief, then wouldn't human belief in science make the tank shell and nuke super-effective? A lot more people believe in tank shells and nukes than ever believed Gilgamesh was 2/3 god. Or even know who Gilgamesh is.

But Alice's skill are fundamentally different compared to any other magus, she doesn't follow any principle and she have her special nursery rhyme-like powers. As you can't call her magecraft strictly as majutsu, they call it jujutsu.

>If those "mysteries" are created through human belief
They're not.

Did you read the post you're replying to?

That's why there's a big distinction in the nasuverse of what magecraft and science can accomplish. Both head to the same destination (preservation of mankind) but follow different paths.

What I'm saying is that calling Alice a witch is fine but calling Tamamo a witch is debatable.

>CTRL'd through everything
stop projecting user.

the VN repeatedly telling that EVERYTHING Sakura does is still her.

if i'm driving while drunk and hitting people on street i'm still responsible for the killing.
it's same as wormslut, she's RESPONSIBLE for the killing rampage.

You both guys are slow as fuck.

I bet you don't even know that the very first scene in the VN was from Archer's PoV. Or that when Shirou said "even a fake can surpass the original" he was also talking about his ideal.

You are both secondary-tier shit.

>the VN repeatedly telling that EVERYTHING Sakura does is still her.
Ah, and here comes the infamous Youtube-quality screenshot of Kotomine, right? The one where he talks about Dark Sakura, who only kills him, Zouken and True Assassin?

>if i'm driving while drunk and hitting people on street i'm still responsible for the killing
But not if someone steals your car and runs over people with it while you're unconscious in the backseat.

Posting best girl

Why is ufo so fucking lazy and shit?

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Both of them use "jujutsu," and consistent terminology is a pretty important thing in the Nasuverse.

>But not if someone steals your car and runs over people with it while you're unconscious in the backseat.
only if don't willingly let him to do what he wants.

*if i

Posting superior girl

And she didn't. She was horrified and wanted the nightmares to end when they first began, and as soon as she knew how to, she took control of the shadow's powers and became Dark Sakura so that it wouldn't eat people anymore.

俺の nigga

Would Kuzuki beat Despair Priest in a fight?

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Both of you are wrong

>the very first scene in the VN
As in the prologue?
You lost me.

>And what defines who the king is?
Angra Mainyu asked that, and Gilgamesh said the King is defined by being Gilgamesh. His very existence is synonymous with kingship. Angra Mainyu couldn't adequately reply so it just puked him back into realspace.

>she took control of the shadow's powers and became Dark Sakura so that it wouldn't eat people anymore.
wait,just asking but are you implying that sakura became dark sakura because she wants to close her desire to kill people?

Anyone who doesn't like the Bride outfit deserves a long and agonizing death.
It's perfect.

How is it possible for his ego not to have collapsed under its own gravitational pull at this point?

The very first time you open the VN, before you even start the Rin PoV prologue, you get a scene of Shirou summoning Saber in the shed.

in a first encounter most likely yes
in second encounter it's impossible

Luvia is great but Medea is the cutest

It is.

How is that from Archer's PoV?
His memory of the event?

It's outright stated. The shadow controls her body whenever she's unconscious unless she makes it part of herself, and as soon as she learns her nightmares were real, she stops sleeping, then becomes Dark Sakura the following day.

it's the "it was a thrust like lightning"

Does anyone have a webm of Soujuurou doing his thing with Beo?

this artist is so fucking good

He is, but he draws too much Casko.

how can Nero even compete?

And there's nothing wrong with that,

i's more than 5 minutes already, i'm still waiting

Wild Hunt Rhongomyniad is better imo.

Nasu on HF True:

Yes. It (Normal End) was the only conclusion considered at the time. However, after writing about 2/3 of it, I found that the story itself did not allow such a conclusion. After that, I wrote the original conclusion, and then followed the story and write the happy end. Since this was Shirou's tale of happiness after losing so much, even if Sabre and Ilya were lost, at least he should let Sakura achieve happiness. And this was the conclusion. Even though Sakura indirectly became a mass murderer, there was no reason to deny her of happiness. I came up with this idea that if one were alive, it was not bad to redeem him/herself while looking forward to happiness. Even though this was hypocrisy, I felt that the story itself strongly demanded this possibility. To be honest, it was the first time that I lost to the story I wrote.

Nasu: Yes, its plot was created with porn in mind.

Takeuchi: The image of those worms became too strongly attached to Sakura, and I think we did a pretty mean thing to her. ...We're making "Fate/hollow ataraxia" now, but even in that, there's been talk of how it'll be hard to dispel Sakura's negative image...

Nasu: I mean, this is something we built on the foundation of being an 18+ bishoujo game from the very beginning. Certainly, if asked if Saber and Rin's routes needed porn scenes, I'd answer "those are fanservice scenes". But that absolutely doesn't mean there's no love in them, and since I decided to create it in this form to begin with, I put my all into them, and that's all that's needed. To put it another way - these elements included, I can say with pride that this is a game that can be enjoyed by adults over 18 who understand both bitterness and sweetness. This is adult amusement, so it's okay for it to have porn! Actually, maybe it should have it.

>tfw akiha route's heart shattering ending

>one of the best acclamed anime of all times
>Fate fanboys: "NUH UH IT'S NOT PERFECT ADAPTION SO IT'S SHIT"

No, but it needs more of best girl.

i don't like this outfit

Shiki got better

isn't shiki is still alive in this route's continuation in kagetsu tohya?

Well I do.

>Ciel saved him

Best girl.

not enough skin and and she looks like robotic office lady

>got NTR'd in her own good end

Whatever.

BRIDE
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bottom right is god tier though

Was it not?

>implying that's a bad thing.

Your wrong

LUVIA EDELFELT PLEASES TSUNDERE TWINTAILS FOR FREE

It is.

This. It looks funky and futuristic, yet still in her style of weird. Weird is good.

what did she mean by that?

Mordred is the original red Saber and still the best

>medea thread
>lacking her pictures
i'll fix this

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You didn't even get what tracing did. He copied the weapons of heroes but also their experience with thoes weapons and some part of their stats. So he was not a "regular human", just someone with the apropiate Reality Marble to Kick gilgy's ass. Also ego but that's obvious.

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Only until Arc and Ciel's sexual tension reaches its boiling point and they fuck each other.

Then it becomes a menage a trois.

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source please ! i want the uncensored version

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No.

>bottom right

If Saber is so great why is Britain a shit hole?

>we will never have more of it

Good thing he has a convenient super healing doodad wedged between his asscheeks so the damage never has any consequence long term.

I thought that scene was just simple Saber being humiliated. She always wanted to be seen as a Knight or King or whatever, but doesn't acknowledge that she's a female since she wants to be taken seriously as any other male.

Gotta admit i like that armor setup alot more than the usual one.

I didn't at first but it's really growing on me. Could have been way worse like more spandex n' asscapes.

>TSUNDERE TWINTAILS PLEASES LUVIA EDELFELT FOR MONEY!

FIFY

source !

Luvia pays good money for it

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Why would you want the source it look's terrible.

$3:50 an hour is good money?

It better be good money, making a girl perform immoral acts with another woman against her will.

Why would you expect anything better from VNfags, or source material shitters in general

>tfw Medea doujins never
;_;

If saber was defeated ,made into a concubine of gilgamesh and had bear him a daughter
how do you think saber will act to her other harem sisters and her child ?

Go to bed Gil

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It is terrible. Look for better porn if you wanna get off to saber

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Do you have internet in Kotomine's basement, Gil?

Get the fuck out you Cred Forumsermin.

>not immensely enjoying those doujins of her making Saber her anal slut with her magic tentacles and futa dick
user, please.

Girls don't do that! They CAN'T do that!

I still don't get why Ozy's hair has to go from down to up, to down again. It should be up, then down, then stay down. Or something.

African or European?

>You're contradicting yourself

I didn't realize Nyarly was in this VN.

I don't know th-AAAAAAAAAHHHHH

Because NHS.

youtube.com/watch?v=2EMjMaZKpcQ

Fuck off.

what the fuck is this garbage?

HAWT, that's what.

Why are anime eyelashes so hot?

Her black robe was definitely a metaphor.

Oh fuck you.

Quit trying to advertise your shitting channel here.

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lewd/10

For what?

Black men.

Caster is a lewd nerd with little to no social skills.

Why does she have elf ears anyway?

Because they're cute

Maybe second best girl, because the best girl seat is already occupied.

>Gil is stronger than Saber
Gil is literally retarded, got fucked by Saber and Shirou. And I guess I can count Sakura too. It doesn't matter how "strong" he is, the fact that he thinks he's better than he actually is will always get him killed.

Remove Snek.

>TAS of a visual novel
Fuck what?

Saber did beat him fair and square. You don't fuck with Avalon.

Yeah I know, but he could have ended the fight far earlier if he had stopped trying to make her his slave like the autistic retard that he is.

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For rin it is.

Because it's Gil's ego, if it collapsed under it's own pressure it wouldn't be worth of being possessed by him.

>Best Saber is a Lancer

Would follow into battle/10.

A king must live a grander life than any other’s, and stoke his people’s feelings of admiration! He who is worthy of all heroes’ envy, and he who leads their way, is king! Therefore, the king is not alone. For his will equals that of all his followers together!

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>He sure has a funny way of showing it.
hence the "chaotic"

Saber is for Shirou and Rin.

Her legs are god tier right here in OP's pic. Why does saber push all the right buttons for me? fuck man.

She's got no chest, so she better have good legs and hips.

>saber and sakura beat gil
I guess this proves that rin truly is the worst of the 3.

It's weird for me, because I'm usually a chest guy, but Saber is one of my favorites attraction wise.

Literally the only likeable characters in whole series

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You don't vote for kings.

Well how'd you become king then?

I was born king, mongrel.

Listen, strange women lyin' in beds distributin' babies is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical birth ceremony.

Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed me at the world, they'd put me away.

Shit artist.

>Yes,but the concept of concubine saber is kind of hot and erotic

"She" has a penis user.
No matter what your creepy fujo porn tells you, two men can not have a child.

best saber coming through

Technically he had enchament magic placed on him by Caster.
Str++
Speed++
Def++
The anime did a really bad job showing that off with no reference to it other than a little pixie dust.
This makes it a master+servant combo that killed rider and man handled saber.

I dunno

Actually Gil reincarnated so he was no longer a magical entity.

I'm curious did that dialogue still comes out in Realta Nua version.

Also how did Gil know

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He got his throne from IKEA.

He was legitimately a worse king than saber though. He was a tyrant and led his army in search of something that probably didn't exist. He basically just lucked out with his crazy levels of Charisma.

What are you talking about? Saber is a woman both body and heart

He was really just having fun. He even said in Unlimited codes he doesn't actually want Saber to accept his offer because he enjoys her struggle and resistance.

How old is she again? I know she's physically like 14 but how old is she actually? She's gotta be in her 30's to 40's, right?

This is why RN is bad. I don't mind the meme mana dragon, but they should've fucked that night. Dry humping for mana is such an idiotic thing.

Caster could easily give herself a penis.

She should be about 30-35.

>10th century Britain

35 years old is like being 70 years old. Life expectancy was like 28 years old. She's probably 23

That's a whole lot of assumptions there. Nonetheless, I hope your wrong because if you're not then she fucked up an entire kingdom in less than 9 years.

>black pubes
wat

This is a man who understands.
Rider > Caster > other bitches

Life expectancy is a commonly misunderstood concept. While people are more likely to be older now than they used to be able to reach, the numbers are incredibly deceiving due to the huge number of infant/child deaths in the past.

You are aware the "actual" King Arthur lived like twice that long and it wasn't considered extraordinary.

Didn't they did fuck ? or i remember it wrong

She's very cute even with such a petite body.

>futa
No

>snek
>best
No

Nothing fucks in RN.

where is it nigga

Inside Saber's little white pussy.

Shirou kill several of the strongest

Caster's just a perv. I think she's jealous over being a fallen princess so she wants to defile other girls as catharsis.

>nasu thinks he's above sex scenes now

loving every laugh

Now he just continuously fucking his own franchise instead.