web.archive.org/web/20111011061500/http://kanzentai.com/trans-daiz04.php?m=10&id=interview#link >Q: Speaking of Piccolo, did you think from the beginning of his background as a Namekian alien? >A: Of course, I didn't think that at all (laughs). The Saiyan were like that as well. When I thought up Goku's tail and the Oozaru, I didn't think Goku was an alien or anything. Piccolo either. Because I thought that up when Kami-sama came out.
The entire basis for everything that happens after Goku defeats Piccolo was just a random thought in a madman's mind. Thank you, Toriyama
there was a brief moment in the android saga where piccolo was the strongest z fighter
rest in pieces green guy
Xavier Scott
Indeed. He was the strongest before the Saiyans went into the HTC.
Evan Williams
Super Buu Saga PL's.
Earlier:
Levi Wilson
>GT thought the only way to make him relevant again was to kill him >Toriyama can't think of any way to make him relevant
Evan Wright
he just needs to fuse with a couple more nameks and he would be top tier again. namekian fusion gives a much larger increase then the fusion dance or potora earing fusion.
piccolo whent from weaker then android saga vegeta to rivaling 2nd form frieza after fusing with nail (42.000) and he whent from being the 4th weakest (after vegeta, goku and trunks) to the strongest after fusing with kami.
imagine if he fused with 10 or 20 more nameks
James Ramirez
>Toriyama can't think of any way to make him relevant He is doing the same thing he has done with him since the beginning of Z. Making him a Saiyan babysitter.
Ian Ward
> Pilaf Saga
Carson Hall
>after Goku defeats Piccolo Read more of the interviews. He's never hid the fact he was making up stuff on a weekly basis since the end of the first arc.
Henry Adams
>>Toriyama can't think of any way to make him relevant It's so fucking easy. >fuse with every namekian >become a namekian god
Ayden Cook
There was a brief period in the saiyan saga that piccolo was the strongest guy. There was a brief period in the Freeza saga where piccolo was the strongest guy There was a brief period in the cell saga where piccolo was the strongest guy.
Piccolo's allowed to be the strongest, but only for about a half hour.
Landon Murphy
ah crap made a mistake. i meant weaker then saiyan saga vegeta to rivaling 2nd form frieza
Owen Ramirez
That's not how namekian fusions work. they have to be about as strong as, or stronger. The only reason kami gave him such a significant boost was because it was him becoming whole again after all this time.
Thomas Rogers
It surprises me that there's people who aren't aware Toriyama was winging it the whole time.
Joseph Evans
I love how the part that's argued is him making stuff up later, and instead that he did as he went along, it's amazing how far that got him
Ryan Anderson
piccolo didn't increase in strenght that much when at king kai's planet. i say at best he whent from 3000 to around 15000 after fusing with nail (42000) he could rival 2nd form frieza who was over 1 million.
Dylan Wright
Super Namekian God Piccolo when
Isaac Hall
Fun fact: The constant shifting from Androids 19 & 20 being the main villains to Perfect Cell wasn't actually from Toriyama's current editor, but rather his former editor Kazuhiko Torishima, who had been working with him ever since the beginning of Dr. Slump.
Mason Scott
Yeah, Nail was about the same strength or even a bit stronger. But now that he's THIS strong, there's not a namekian around that'd give him that same kind of boost. Absorbing more namekians would be a drop in the bucket compared to the first two. And it's not like there's a lot of namekians left. They've got a dwindling population, if you recall.
Isaac Bennett
Old Bulma > Long hair Videl > Bulma >>>>>>> short hair videl >>>>>>>>>> Old Chichi
Hudson Kelly
It's really fucking annoying since they're the same people who think he used to be some sort of master storyteller and is just "now" making shit up.
Yes, terrible people.
Ian Green
Damn you dr. Mashimo!
Cell saga is probably the most editor driven arc and it Shows. It has very little focus and big annoying power jumps. from a writing standpoint it always felt the sloppiest and most obnoxious arc.
Robert Sanders
Why arent Goku and Vegeta asking old kai to unlock their full potential
Ethan Lewis
It was suppose to be 19 and 20, then 17 and 18, then First form Cell, then Second Form cell and then Perfect Cell
In the end, the editor was right.
Connor Wood
Gohan ruined Videl.
Liam Scott
piccolo could Always try and increase his magic potential instead of only his ki. if he can create objects and clothes out of tin air, some practice and he could do much more
Connor Johnson
rereading early DB atm, and it really was a blast. Jackie Chun was great.
William Cooper
You Namekian! Too strong, explain now!
Logan Butler
Well its trash writing wise right from the start since it includes time travel
Bentley Garcia
because that's not training and hard work to get the power
oh wait, they've both accepted super saiyan god powers so that's not proper reasoning anymore
Thomas Brown
Kid Buu Saga PLs. Done for today. That was pretty fun, though I'll probably revise a bit later.
Vegeta and Piccolos interactions are so awkward and funny.
Benjamin Butler
I always thought she was related to Bulma. Why did they make them so similar?
Nolan King
> Forgets Tien existed > Yamcha is background character. Can't remember if he had any lines whatsoever. > Gohan has no excuse to be useless. Still very much useless > Trunks is weak. And a huge dork (not in a good way) > Goten is shit. > Adult Gotenks was teased > Marron is a joke. Weak AND irrelevant > Bra can't fight despite her Saiyan genes > Pan can't transform > Uub was hyped, but was still shit even after fusing with Buu > Vegeta couldn't beat Android 17 > SS4 Vegeta was essentially useless > Krillin is irrelevant except when he dies > Piccolo is irrelevant except when he dies > Buu is irrelevant except when to permanently fuse with Uub (and therefore technically die)
Dammit GT
Colton Walker
she was hot as fuck 10/10 thicc
John Cox
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Cameron Bell
Because Toei has never been good with filler
Brody Wright
i think for goku and vegeta the boost woudn't nearly be as big as it did for gohan (who had huge untapped potential) goku and vegeta constantly train so they constantly reach their own potential on their own.
gohan just sits on his ass and reads books (and ocasionaly gets strapped to the bed so videl can have her way with him) so of course he has huge potential because he never bothers to train and unlock it himself.
Evan Gray
Bardock was a low-class saiyan but above average, so I would guess around 2,000.
King Vegeta in comparison was 10,000 when he got one-punched by Frieza.
The only thing we know about Uub is that he is higher than 250,000.
Josiah Butler
Piccolo is an alien why can't they give him saiyan tier bullshit power up like God namekian or a secret form.
Vegeta did not do the ritual, fuck knows how he got God ki.
Christopher Gomez
Isn't Bardock around 10k? Crazy though that he survived Dodoria's blast at 22k. The movies are pretty whack.
I think the Broly movie was supposed to take place between the 10 days before the Cell Games, right? I definitely think Broly, right before Goku defeated him, was around SPC's level. It took MSSJ Goku's power + the remainder of what everyone else had to defeat him.
Aiden Foster
How did that dick end up becoming best husbando?
Owen Richardson
A bit strange that he named her kid after her, I wonder what 18 would think of that.
Ian Powell
>this shit paint program + flash art from the early 2000s It's so distinct and disgusting
Carter Perez
Literally Goku Time
Jose Collins
It´s because they have a similar history and background.
They are both Hmph.. edgy characters.
Eli Rivera
King Vegeta should be more disappointed about his sons being manlets
Elijah Stewart
>Piccolo exits like a boss >does nothing for the rest of the saga
Adam Nelson
>tfw one of the most interesting characters in Dragon Ball is a big green slug monster from another planet >has probably the most character development of anyone throughout the series >he's basically irrelevant these days
feels bad man
Jeremiah Powell
Nobody really did except for Goku, Gohan and Vegeta sort-of
Josiah Myers
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Kevin Brown
>SS3 Gotenks nearly Super Bu >SS3 Goku equal to Kid Bu >a technique have "battle power" Please be bait please be bait please be bait please be bait please be bait please be bait please be bait please be bait please be bait please be bait
Grayson Kelly
He was cool against Frost in the manga until that faggot took him out with his poison. Made him drain a good amount of his stamina.
I think Piccolo did the same thing as Gohan to a lesser extent. Doesn't train as hard anymore since he knows Goku and Vegeta are there.
Brayden Baker
I wonder if he knew about superman's origins before or after Goku was conceived.
Jacob Morales
They all fought the Cell Jrs... kinda.
Camden Bell
calm down and have some Garland
John Lee
>DBS Autism Power Levels
Whis 870.000.000
Beerus 580.000.000
Black 8.200.000 Rose Black 410.000.000
Goku 8.000 SS Goku 400.000 SS2 Goku 800.000 SS3 Goku 3.200.000 God Goku 400.000.000 God blue Goku 408.000.000
Vegeta 7980 SS Vegeta 399.000 SS2 Vegeta 798.000 God blue Vegeta 406.980.000
Trunks 31.500 SS Trunks 1.575.000 SS2 Trunks 3.150.000 Hypothetical God Blue Trunks 1.606.500.000
Grayson Myers
I love the constant escalation of the Android/Cell saga. It feels amazingly organic, not like a normal structured story.
Oliver Ramirez
I think your post is bait.
But just incase you are retarded, here you go
Nicholas Reed
Reminder
Caleb Edwards
Yeah but at least Krillin has a life of his own.
Piccolo just became Pan's better grandpa.
Parker Richardson
Definitely before since he parodies Superman in Dr. Slump.
Thanks, saved. That faggot seems to be adamant on spamming that false shit.
Camden Parker
Why the fuck do you autists still care about power levels?
Lucas Hughes
Even though the charts were pulled out of somebody's ass, fat Buu should still be stronger than Majin Vegeta. You know they fought and Vegeta lost, right?
Dominic Watson
10 bill is weak for Majin Buu.
When he hatched out of the egg he was at 20 or 25 billion.
Colton Brown
Because they refuse to realize that the scaling in DBZ is completely off the charts and stopped making sense during the Saiyan saga.
Andrew Foster
mexico being a third world country, they had only 2 tv channels. One of them put DB and DBZ on the air, and all those teenagers and kids back then are now in their 30s. DB would be waaaay bigger in the US if it was transmitted pre-internet and pre-cable.
Landon Sullivan
So thats where the Vegeta door meme comes from..
Landon Davis
this power levels, like the story, are just made up on the fly for plot and toriyama would never be consistent like the silly charts
Ryan Harris
most saiyans aren't exactly tall though. only a few stand out as being over 185cm (nappa, broly, that one big guy on bardocks team) even goku is only 5'10" (178 cm)
Noah Gutierrez
butthurt superfags detected
Levi Moore
Supposedly current Buu is much weaker than the first time we saw him due to separating from his evil side.
By being the only saiyan with character development.
Isaiah Wilson
didn't he do that one pic of videl commenting that there isn't anything wrong with have sex so many times with gohan. then a pic next to it showing frieza 1 hit punching gohan?
Ryan Edwards
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Luis Sanders
don't fall for the bait mate it's just some stupid ass gohanfag. he'll get tired of it eventually
Evan Turner
Funny how different the canon version of that ended up being
Charles Ramirez
> Vegeta only saiyan with character development
You forgot Gohan
Zachary Myers
>You forgot Gohan lol no i didn't fuck off gohanfag
Sebastian Perez
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Nolan White
How are gohanfags associated wity power-level autism? I thought those were GTfags?
Kevin Turner
Aaand the Cellfag is back everyone.
Asher Ward
trust me it's the same no life faggot. he is 24/7
Joseph Edwards
Not canon.
Meanwhile in DBZ, humiliated by a 5 year old.
Henry Young
lol non canon faggot
Jaxon Perry
I agree, DBS is not canon.
Jose Perry
>be whatever you want
Piccolo is best dad
Ryan White
RoF IS canon
Kid Gohan vs Final Form Freeza is actually literally not canon
Cameron Cruz
Don't fall for the powerlevel or gohan being number 1 faggot. Just ignore the no life.
Camden Flores
>RoF is canon
Last reply.
Levi Wood
What the fuck is Yamcha doing there? Even Tien was more useful in the Buu arc than he was.
Oliver Ward
u wot?
Jose Carter
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Ayden Davis
Because Yamcha is badass and Tien is ugly.
Luke Perry
cut my life into pieces
Colton Sullivan
> Younger (less rusty) Gohan vs Untrained Freeza
> Older dad Gohan (hasn't trained in years) vs a stronger, trained Freeza
How is this comparison fair? Also, I think they downplayed Freeza's strength there.
Sure Mystic Gohan can beat him. But after a single punch, and Freeza explodes? Yeah right.
Daniel Thompson
samefag
Nathan Davis
this is my last resort
Jason Jackson
>FnF not canon >meanwhile in the totally canonical anime, DBZ...
Michael Brooks
...
Joshua Johnson
...
Jace Evans
seeing tien show up to fight buu was one of the coolest moments in db
Jose James
this picture always makes him mad, lol
Carson Myers
suffocation no breathing
Luke Green
...
Aiden Scott
What a worthless wanker
Jose Martinez
eternal trash
Gavin Hill
Wow he is mad as fuck, spamming non-canon fan fiction.
your tears could water starving African children
Connor Anderson
akira doesn't even rate him
Tyler Nguyen
How are all the "DBS is not canon, actual filler like Kid Gohan vs Final Form Freeza is canon, confirmed fake power-levels are canon" faggots invading?
Unless it's just a retarded samefag?
Benjamin Bailey
>I'm going to train to get stronger >Piccolo trained me from the basics Gohan may have had a setback, but he'll come back stronger than everyone like he always does.
Kevin Powell
Piccolo's face makes this even better
Nolan Mitchell
He was just removing Yamcha from the gene pool.
Gavin Sanders
funniest is you think its one user samefagging when in fact you the only gohanfag here
Sebastian Watson
Just ignore him. He is always salty, we are used to it.
I even made a niggerwalk comic about him, lol.
Levi Thomas
>no new stuff in a while >threads devolved into shitflinging for the time being it's just how "general" threads work
Oliver Torres
and then he didn't train at all. didn't bother coming along to the u6 tournament instead he's doing what he likes to do, spending time with his wife and kid and being a book nerd.
Luis Williams
The biggest surprise for me in Dragonball was when Gotenks used the wolf fang fist
John Stewart
cute
Jonathan King
See: then try harder
Mason Gutierrez
Gohanfags should stay quiet
Caleb Parker
Gohan exists user
Brayden Bailey
he never used it?
Tyler Powell
cellfags getting BTFO in this thread
i can practically smell the butthurt
Leo Allen
he did in the yo songoku special
Michael Young
It's the same retard that suddenly started shitting up the threads.
You're right. It would be better if anons simply didn't make DB threads if there's nothing to talk about. Generals always attracts these kind of retards.
Nolan Nguyen
he used it in that Ova with Vegeta's brother
Mason Lewis
your regular autistic gohanfag lad pure cancer just ignore the dude but you can join the others at bullying gohan
Benjamin Morales
Probably the effects of taking Gohan's low quality cum.
Henry Perez
samefag
Aaron James
Did Gohanfags forget that Gohan just as bad in DBZ. He was way stronger than super buu and then we all know what happened next. No matter how much power you give to Gohan he'll always fuck up. He did it in both the cell and buu sagas
John Moore
Did gohan even do shit in the buu arc besides powering up the villain? Fucking twice
Connor Edwards
Reminder Yo Son Goku was the only good recent movie.
Henry Brown
gohan not training for 7 years during the time between cell and the tournament/buu got weaker, but could still go ssj and ssj2 easy.
1 or 2 years pass since buu's defeat beerus movie: uses his elder kai power up. frieza returns a few months later gohan can barely go ssj, can't go ssj2 and lost the elder kai power up.
he's useless and won't become relevant again
Jack Jackson
He pretended to die even though he could have told everyone he was alive
Cooper Thompson
To be fair everyone fucked up in the Buu saga. Even Goku (not finishing Fat Buu off in SSJ3) and Vegeta, (letting him get revived in the first place)
Jayden Perry
how does it feel being deullusional and alone in this world ?
Hunter Clark
Goku had a good reason though
Adam Long
even with the boost he got from elder kai, he might have been stronger then buu. but gohan remained a shit fighter. he isn't skilled like the other z-fighters. hell in pure skill alone, krillin, tien and even yamcha could beat him.
Benjamin Cook
I forgot how smug this guy was in the beginning of the buu saga. He was humbled pretty quick though
Liam Rivera
Lol this fucker again baka Keep your headcanon to yourself
Evan Thomas
Official.
Stay triggered.
Austin Jackson
when he first apeared he seemed powerfull and mysterious. then when babidi and dabura get revealed, he turns into a bumbling scared idiot.
Adrian Ross
> he's "useless" and won't become relevant (in terms of fighting) again
Good thing he doesn't give a shit
Cooper Lewis
Oh sweet another gohanfag bullying thread. Nice some change was needed it was always vegeta before.
Zachary Diaz
Gohan's accomplishments were getting his father killed and his surrogate father, brother, and friends eaten or absorbed by buu. Give a round of applause everyone for the most "powerful" hybrid
Landon Cox
> Good thing he doesn't give a shit
And he never did
Xavier Sullivan
then why are your tears so salty?
Jackson Lee
any power level numbers after frieza's 2nd form being over 1 million (or the fake power level of 5 trunks got scanned at) are just made up shit. toriyama did away with power levels for a reason, it turned the whole show to shit and numbers fags got obsessed over it.
any power levels after frieza are just made up.
Wyatt Johnson
>meanwhile in real life: user is crying because Gohan killed his favorite character
Daniel Ortiz
To be fair his teacher and fellow kais were killed before he could learn anything. He didn't even know what the potara earrings did
Brody Robinson
>jump
Nathaniel Phillips
he does indeed not give a shit about fighting. he never did. he had his short moment of glory against cell. and his fanboys want that to return, while it's against gohans character.
he's happy and content as a family man.
Carson James
This is bullshit he killed a lot of people of Namek
Gabriel Parker
Its so obvious its sad man Stupid samefag
Jose Taylor
goku killed loads of people in dragon ball then suddenly in dbz he wants to spare everyone.
Adrian Gonzalez
>waaaaaahhh my precious Cell got destroyed!! reeee gohan sux!!
careful not to break your keyboard
Robert Jones
>he's happy and content as a family man His wife pays for his hobby. Being a "scholar" isnt a job
Ian Lewis
Goku spared people because he wanted a rematch so its not out of character for him since he spared piccolo in Dragonball
Dylan Nelson
Who gives a fuck about cell. He was a shit villain.keep talking to yourself tho loser
Thomas Harris
he's happy and content as a family man remember when he swore to train hard to protect hsi family. yeah gohan didn't even keep that promise for like 2 episode lmao
Hunter Nguyen
It sure sucks to be Gohan forced to study all his life while watching his younger brother being spoiled by chi chi when he became an adult
Sebastian Howard
Why you getting mad?
Gohan is the strongest non-fused character and there is nothing you can do about it.
You can cry, bitch and moan, it wont change anything.
Leo Taylor
This is the moment when Gohan became worse than Yamcha
Asher Brown
>Why you getting mad? says the one spamming this whole thread.
Isaac Stewart
You the one crying faggot.
Jackson Price
west supreme kai should have lived. she would have been a better character against babidi
Eli Martinez
You could at least post the original ones
Brandon Collins
oh please Goten could probably beat him in a fight
Bentley Taylor
Vegeta,goku,beerus,whis ... I could go on but I dont wanna waste my time with a gohanfag who thinks he gonna show up in a capsule to fight black. Enjoy sucking Cred Forums dicks.
Brody Thompson
THEY'LL NEVER STOP DRAGON BALL HAVE NO FEARS WE'VE GOT STORIES FOR YEARS MAYBE PICCOLO IS AN ALIEN KRILLIN MARRIES A ROBOT HAVE NO FEARS WE'VE GOT STORIES FOR YEARS
Austin Ward
He forgot how to transform into a super saiyan so he's easily the most pathetic character
Parker Flores
this guy is so sad it's hilarious. mr satan > gohan come at me faggot
Hudson Clark
will supreme kai of time ever apear in db super? it would be funny if she apeared at the end of the show to take trunks with her. because of all the time line problems he created
Zachary James
>yfw Black time travels to the present, beats Gohan, and fucks his wife
Landon Jones
>MAYBE PICCOLO IS AN ALIEN >KRILLIN MARRIES A ROBOT kek
Joshua Ramirez
i bet gohan wouldeven like it. expert cuck
Bentley Lee
If there is saiyan blood in Black then he'll go for a dom
Blake Richardson
Gohanfags shitting up the thread with their fanfiction yet again I see. He's done, just let it go.
Benjamin Thompson
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Christopher Collins
>goten cucks his brother
Connor Rodriguez
If that happened Goku would probably laugh about it
Josiah Price
gohan is a shit... a shit!
Kayden Bailey
Who?
Who did Gohan kill on Namek??
Carson Collins
He was really into getting a good present for Videl in the first episode of DBS
Josiah Long
Gohan's ways better than the other brutes
Aaron Moore
random frieza mooks
Levi Baker
The gohanfag pussied out. Too bad ot was starting to get fun here but at least the thread is cleaned from trash.
Jonathan Gutierrez
Well, Goku was the one who suggested Gohan to hand over Videl to the old Kai so he could fuck her.
Jackson Cox
He massacred Frieza's soldiers
Carter Barnes
no, she was ok until Supopobitch brain damaged her right pic Videl is definitely not ok
Grayson Russell
Funny thing is gohan was chill about it.
Blake Johnson
I'm surprised he protected chi chi by saying she wasn't as pretty. I guess deep down he does care
Daniel Nguyen
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Mason Rogers
Old Kai gave him a power up so he was obligated to share
Nicholas Campbell
I thought he had the same reaction as Vegeta?
Julian Martin
Gohan actually got pissed at Goku for suggesting it
Bentley Richardson
anti-gohan fags are some of the saltiest and buttmad people i have ever seen, kek
Benjamin Morales
Why did Gohan turn out so bad guys? Was it because Goku was dead most of the time or was it something else?
William James
He was acting meek once the power up turned out to be legit
Robert Rogers
He beat the Tsundere out of her. But that beating she got was pretty brutal. No wonder she decided to stop acting like a hardass.
Henry Long
now that the gohanshitstorm clamed down. why do we let toyotaro get away with this?
Jose Jenkins
To be fair kibito vs zamasu was clean
Blake Foster
Holy shit I forgot Gohan was just watching this happen and doing nothing. Goku was the one to get the senzu bean too
Wyatt Walker
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Robert Hill
because every chapter is around 40 pages
Parker Lopez
...
Wyatt Richardson
Thats how long monthly mangas are supposed to be
Adam Mitchell
ah classic dbz when they still showed blood. not the kai shit or db super where it's all Spit or bruises
Cameron Bailey
old habits die hard
Parker Ward
Short Hair Videl a best.
Colton Harris
I can't believe people think Pan is going to be impressive. Come on Gohan is her father her fate is sealed
Julian Green
shit taste
Kayden Bailey
Wow Gohan surpassed Yamcha
Daniel Collins
Am I the only one who thinks future trunks personality doesnt suit him at all. He is way to joyful and kind for someone who was brought up in a world of terror. For me is character should be like vegeta during sayian saga. Just the right amount of edginess.
Isaiah Martin
Videl was Goku's first choice but Gohan said no
Lucas Jones
In the manga, half her teeth got knocked out too in that scene. I can see why she chilled out after getting the shit kicked out of her. She got a pretty harsh reality check about how strong her and her father really were.
Oliver Martin
I think the bigger death knell is that Goku is her grandfather.
Goku period. Goku is the only one allowed to be impressive all the time. That the current arc makes Trunks out to be such a badass is nothing short of astonishing.
Thomas Garcia
Wait Gohan had potarra earrings? Also Goku obviously doesn't care what Gohan says just look at his face
Jack Miller
Kibito fucked by giving Gohan Yamcha's gi
Jaxon Thompson
which art do you guys prefer? toyotaro(left) akira(right)
Ryder Carter
It was still a pretty dick move from Goku's part. If Vegeta had been there he would have probably suggested 18.
Owen Powell
Do you really need to ask? A true fan always goes for the majestic art of toryiama. Too bad his design nowadays all look like skeletons.
Daniel Thomas
A lot of this shit is relevant to Super right now!
Adam Russell
holy fuck
Jeremiah Hill
To be fucked by a Supreme God is blessing. Goku was doing her a favor
Isaiah Fisher
Old Akira > Toyotaro > Current Akira
Angel White
right looks like actual hair
Dylan Turner
I didn't like how the arc would escalate by having the characters do something stupid though.
Carter Harris
Right.
Camden Adams
ZAMASU
Logan Gomez
Right feels like a complete different person. Was ssj hair effer effected from wind?
Lucas Phillips
I liked it when transforming changed Goku's personality
Lucas Lee
>Was ssj hair effer effected from wind? yes
Christian Johnson
Videl refused to quit, despite Gohan telling her that she was outmatched. He about to jump in anyway, but the small guy Spovhic-whateverhisname to stop fucking around and to throw her out of the ring.
Grayson Morgan
I wish Chi Chi got a similar reality check. Super Buu did kill her, but that was quick and instant. If she had gotten her ass beat as brutally as Videl did, maybe she'd change her tone about studies being more important.
Adam Ward
Transforming doesn't change his personality, he was mad because Freeza killed Kuririn.
Wyatt Nelson
Gohan should have been the one to kill Spopovich
Nathan Wood
He was a lot more brutal the first time around. he didn't act like that when Buu ate everyone
Gavin Peterson
at first yes it was but tori is lazy so he decided to make it static after that so he doesn't have to draw different hair styles because of the wind
Julian Miller
She had lightened up on that by the Buu Saga though. Gohan by that point pursued studies over fighting purely of his own volition, and meanwhile Chi-Chi happily trained Gohan in combat in his father's absence.
Cooper Parker
>There’s how, basically, Son Goku from Dragon Ball doesn’t fight for the sake of others, but because he wants to fight against strong guys. So once Dragon Ball got animated, at any rate, I’ve always been dissatisfied with the “righteous hero”-type portrayal they gave him. I guess I couldn’t quite get them to grasp the elements of “poison” that slip in and out of sight among the shadows.
>At any rate, I wanted him to have the sense of being that rare guy who seeks only “to become stronger than before”, so much so that it feels like “there’s no one as pure as this person”. And while he does end up saving everyone as a result of that, he himself at least has a very pure sincerity about “wanting to become stronger”. What I wanted to depict the most was the sense that he might not be a good guy at all, although he does do good things as a result.
Carson Gray
He jobbed to them remember?
Julian Wood
SSJ was an anger fueled transformation until Goku perfected it. And by perfected it I mean fucking ruined it.
Carter Perez
Because by then the Dragon Balls stopped having limits so they could bring back everyone whenever they wanted and also they started treating death as just a temporary vacation.
Aaron Carter
Goku's SSJ hair style was drawn differently in Namek and early Android compared to all later appearances.
Ethan Rodriguez
>Kuririn >Freeza
We´ve got a subfag everyone.
Michael Hill
Only because of that Supreme faggot.
Adam Kelly
Why the drawings in the manga got worse when the sayan saga happened?
I mean look at how detailed is Dragon Ball before that
Did Akira got tired?
John Price
This, she was actually pretty chill in the Buu saga. She actually trained Goten in martial arts, something that I can't image Super Chi Chi ever doing. Blame Toei for flanderizing the shit out of her character.
Josiah Peterson
Bejita Seru Goku Kakarotto Buroli
Ryan Murphy
That wasn't really jobbing as it was going on with the extremely retarded plan that the Kais had.
Kevin Martinez
*trained Goten in combat, rather.
Luke Martin
when will jaco meet the coolest of all the galactic patrol memebers?
Blake Baker
She just wanted a replacement for Goku.
Juan Gonzalez
Was Bulma already dead when this happened? She should have known better than to slap overpowered assholes from outer space in BoG.
Eli Phillips
right is far better looking. during the frieza fight, goku's ssj hair actualy looked and moved like hair. the left new version looks so static
Landon Bailey
No.
Jayden Moore
Never akira isnt fond of cool designed characters anymore.
Jeremiah Moore
>character's name is literally Bloomers >never once wears bloomers
bravo kojima
Gabriel Rodriguez
super chichi dialed her up to the point where she's fucking annoying. it's not even funny at this point. the running gag was completely blown out of proportion. kind of like super goku's stupidity and wanting to fight things.
Christopher Brown
When you put it like that user it makes it sound very lewd. Reminds me of a certain classic that gave me my /ss/ fetish.
Beerus was at least somewhat reasonable at least. Super Buu was just batshit insane.
Jacob Moore
bulma and other looked on as chichi did that to buu they lived longer but all got turned to candy and eaten when super buu escaped from the time chamber
Ryder Mitchell
getting a pimp slap isn't the same as getting turned into an egg and then squashed
Blake Howard
So does Zeno just not give a fuck? All the Kais in the Future timeline are dead and he doesn't lift a finger?
Jonathan Martin
he's either a secretly just a figurehead or a passive god type that just watches and doesn't intervene
Lucas Edwards
>Just watches and doesn't intervene >Each reality apparently used to have 18 Universes >Zeno supposedly destroyed 6 of them once out of anger I mean, sure, it could just be a rumor, exaggeration or myth, but...
David Morales
Way hotter than 18 18 is such a downgrade
Liam Garcia
>18 >Downgrade Get out with your shittaste.
Jordan Lewis
Well consider that she doesn't exist outside of filler just like that pet dragon Gohan used to have, I don't think 18 gives a shit.
Luis Martinez
On the topic of power levels, does anyone know how much Yamcha/Tien trained under King Kai in the manga?
It doesn't seem like a lot, and even during Yamcha's peak in the Android Saga, I have trouble placing him at more than 10,000 PL.
He was a slacker in Z and didn't train that hard.
Ethan Perez
mfw those weren't destroyed out of anger, they were just universes where buu won and destroyed every planet so the universes needed to be pruned
Justin Reyes
Left
Cameron Thomas
18 is overrated shit Just a poor man's Blonde Lunch
Ethan Stewart
The only thing we have is 19 mistaking Yamcha for Saiyan Saga Goku.
Jason Kelly
>Toei made a hotter girl for Krillin than Toriyama did Fuck you Toriyama Maron was way hotter than that shitty Robot
Jayden Campbell
lies
>center part hairstyle >high waisted jeans tucked into bright green socks 17 is so damn 90s
Benjamin Gutierrez
>ZamasuApprovalIntensifies.jpg
Brandon Wilson
>t. low-test faggot
Bentley Jenkins
Power levels became irrelevant after Namek. But it's hard to say how strong Yamcha was since he got instantly BTFO'd by Gero and never got into a serious fight after that, if you could call that a fight. Him and Tien teaming up on the Cell Jr during the Cell games was filler. And his only other win in the Buu saga against a random dinosaur was also filler.
Henry Morgan
I like how every DB thread has a different brand of cancer.
Yesterday it was Toyblefags shilling their shitty DBS manga, today it's power level autists.
Carter Collins
Look, the meme faggot is here again.
Juan Butler
I miss her
Christian Hughes
Who?
Gabriel Edwards
Who do you guys think will be the participants of the multiverse tournament hosted by Zeno?
Who will Universe 7 bring? Future Trunks? Will Beerus compete this time?
Nathaniel Martin
turles
Austin Sullivan
oh god that hairline. spoiler that shit.
Carson Hall
>Says that, post more blogshit. Good job. You so smart.
Jaxson Davis
He might just be from south america
Easton Hughes
>there are people RIGHT NOW who genuinely believe Tiencha looks cool
I bet you're all balding 30 year olds and you need someone to relate to.
Alexander Martin
Muh Dick too, user.
Ryder Hughes
Hit will job to a new fighter. Cabba will probably advance and put up a good fight, then lose. F.Trunks is gone after this arc. Beerus will never have a real serious fight again in Super.
Hudson Scott
>And his only other win in the Buu saga against a random dinosaur was also filler. He literally beat Pikkon or some other dude from the Otherworld Tournament in Buu saga filler dude
Xavier Parker
She was literally a Bluma clone with better body proportions. Not to mention her personality was horrid. She has nothing on 18.
Bentley Price
I hope you aren't saying you prefer Empty Pretty Doll Videl because then you are huge faggots.
Carson Gutierrez
I am balding. Go fuck yourself.
Jaxson Rodriguez
I fapped so many times to her >that scene where she seduces Korin and Yajirobe with her tits to cook her food Goddamn, I wish I could cook for this semen demon even though I don't know how to cook
Easton Hernandez
>I am balding. lmao disgusting
Luke Morris
Its all downhill from here.
Justin Allen
she is good just as lover, not a wife.
Aiden Perry
>blogshit.
Are you retarded? I mean you are a Gohanfag, but still even Gohanfags can't be this stupid.
Bentley Howard
low test fag SPOTTED
Joseph Jenkins
...
Jaxson Lopez
Might as well end it all before you go completely bald.
Jaxon Wilson
Who is the one that always need to bring Gohan to a conversation? I will be happy if he stops appearing permanently. Toei can use that shit that they call Videl to excuse his absend. So if you need to talk about him that badly go to your blog.
Brandon Foster
Post moar of this semen demon
Liam Butler
Goten was a mistake.
Leo Morgan
she was a airhead a slut and a bimbo. but the scene with krillin telling his friends he broke up with her, while hiding his tears behind sunglasses was really sad.
then she showed up again in filler to wait for krillin....then got bored and left with an army of her lovers
Isaac Hill
You were a mistake, user. At least Goten is useful to sell figures.
Austin Thomas
>anyone who isn't Goku or Vegeta should NEVER get development
t. 90% of superfags
Lucas Scott
...
Jacob Reyes
>Goku's development made him more retarded. Vegeta's made him a bitch. B R A V O
Austin Torres
hi
Jack Ward
better than shipperfags in a fucking dragonball thread
Jonathan Baker
Yamcha and Tien literally do nothing. For all the shit Super does, at least Yamcha and Tien speak.
Brandon Myers
Because they have been re running it on the most popular mexican kids channel since 1995.
Im serious, you can turn on canal 5 at any given moment and you will see an episode running.
Austin Wilson
fuck off dabura
Ryan Jones
real life chi chi?
Colton Wright
Bardock was reported to almost be as strong as King Vegeta.
Isaiah Edwards
Too fat and ugly.
Xavier Butler
>not chinks get out
Austin Sanchez
kais are for abusing
Gabriel Martin
He's actually around 175cm, so that's about 5'8-5'9.
Cameron Bell
no!
Tyler Edwards
Do you prefer the chink Murika used for Chi Chi?
Ian Watson
He's one of the legacy characters, along with Bulma, Oolong, and Puar. Go fuck yourself.
Ryder White
kais are for リョナ
Easton Gonzalez
vegeta is even shorter. but he actualy grew in height during Z he whent from slightly taller then krillin to being close to goku's height.
height piccolo > gohan > tien > goku > yamcha > vegeta > krillin > chouzu
Caleb Nelson
Kaiochannnnnnn
Ian Martin
Bulma is god-tier 18 is trash
Thomas Flores
Reminder that Goten ends up with best girl.
Angel Rodriguez
Nonsense
Robert Johnson
kaioDEAD
Camden Hernandez
i guess the theory about it being future zamasu from the regular timeline is true
Grayson Gray
>beerus is meddlesome neat
Nathan Flores
>this trash dialogue was in a disney movie no wonder this movie was ass it never even felt like a true disney movie...it felt like a cheap chinese dreamworks ripoff
and to think they show this to kids digusting
Joseph Reyes
>kukuku
what did he mean by this?
Austin Fisher
maybe he meant something satanic
Jayden Carter
what she says reminds you of gohan doesn't it?
Leo Stewart
>kukuku >kuku >ku >k >ck >uck >cuck
Nathan Taylor
>her name is literally Chichi which is a baby word for breasts in Japan and means breasts in Spanish countries >implying she's flat
Kai has plenty of blood.
Zachary Allen
He was also the strongest guy on earth when Goku and Gohan were in other world during the Buu saga, except during the times when Goten and Trunks fused.
Cooper Rogers
"Death to Ningen"
Lucas King
>Autism No, autism would be putting a Hypothetical God Blue Gohan at the top. God versions of Trunks and Vegeto would be instant top tiers.
Carson Davis
The fuck are you smoking? Atlantis was one of the better Disney movies. And she ends up with him anyway. Stop being a butthurt manlet.
Ian Miller
...
Jace Ross
>God versions of Trunks would be instant top tiers.
I wish Trunksfags never came back
Sebastian Moore
Why was the anime changed so much for violence? From Vegeta slicing off Guldo's neck to Yamcha getting his arm shattered...
Angel Parker
>Puke.jpg Annoying shippers are here.
Jonathan Rogers
Fuck off.
Owen Smith
Why would you ship something that's already sailed?
Jonathan Reyes
Fuck you I love that movie.
Jeremiah Lewis
>Goten will never be a fun option to use in video games because Toriyama won't make him relevant and give him moves of his own
Nathan Adams
wasn't reffering to shipping, just dem titties
Joshua Cook
>He actually tries a "I-It's not like that!" here What is with Japan and loving this line?
Is it part of their whole humbleness shtick?
Jacob Collins
He got harder training than Goku did but we don't know the full extent of it. Pretty unfair if you ask me
Christian Evans
he got kamekameha though
Andrew Morris
Press Z if you still have a DBZ wall scroll.
David Sullivan
...
Bentley Martin
>kamekameha
It's literally just a shitty watered down version of the Kamehameha.
Yamcha is not shorter than Goku, he's only an inch away officially from Tien. The art is so inconsistent that Goku shoots up past 6 feet, Krillin becomes an actual midget, Vegeta becomes taller than Bulma (which isn't the case), Tien suddenly gains a foot, etc.
Ayden Clark
What the fuck is wrong with Goku?
Dylan Parker
the murrican movie was terrible. but mai was one of the few nice things about it
Isaac Collins
He's going off the rails on the crazy train, Satan.
Aaron Perry
>Forgets about Launch's existence >Brings back the Pilaf gang >Ages them down >Makes Mai a love interest to Trunks >Makes Trunks increasingly prominent I mean I don't mind it overall, but dear god did Launch and any fans she had get the shortest end of the goddamn stick.
Ryder Bennett
Power levels is what DEFINED Dragon Ball. The fact that people still don't recognize the worth of this manga-changing concept just shows how casuals the fans are. Power levels is the most important aspect of fighting in Dragon Ball. Skill, strategy, techniques mean nothing if your power level is lower than your opponent. You're a non-entity, a nobody. It's what separated those of worth from the worthless. That's ALL THAT MATTERS. The fact that Toriyama doesn't pay respect to this measurement just shows how far he has fallen. Dragon Ball was at its best when Power Levels was the center of everything.
Brandon White
> is this nigga serious?
Oliver Perez
>Power levels is what DEFINED Dragon Ball
Nathaniel Nelson
mai came out of nowhere, but I guess it would be weird for trunks not to get a waifu and who else could have fit the bill
Anthony Robinson
last time launch was seen, was during a filler bit in the saiyan saga. when vegeta powers up it switched to a trucker bar and a depressed and drunk launch is drinking beer. (tien had dumped her and send her away because she robbed a bank again) then the ground starts shaking because of vegeta
Matthew Hernandez
Goku's a liar. He also said she has no bounce in the orignal version. So I guess Goten sucked her dry.
Carter Taylor
From cute innocent woman to pure slut. That shit is more generic than your generic harem anime. Lunch would had add something interesting, if not Lunch, then Suno, the real badass girl with no powers.
Jayden Sullivan
That thing is ugly.
Leo Watson
My Niggas. Buu Chi-chi best Chi-chi
Logan Gutierrez
A new interesting girl. DBX is full of them. Or anyone from DBO, just look at Buu's waifu.
Jordan Green
>Power levels is what DEFINED Dragon Ball Stopped reading there, please fuck off
Evan Gomez
Suno is probably with Eighter. Earth seems pretty liberal on robosexual relationships.
Dylan Nguyen
is there any mega links for this?
any other torrent site?
Wyatt Sanchez
Power levels only became a thing when the saiyans appeared, and DB was better before that.
Brandon Wood
>Evil Goku (Turles) breaks away from the Frieza Empire to do his own thing >Vegeta when evil does whatever Frieza says >Goku Sr. (Bardock) flies into space to defy Frieza, alpha as fuck >King Vegeta gets on his hands and knees to pleasure Beerus and Frieza at the same time while Whis laughs >Gine was a loyal wife >Vegeta's mother is nowhere to be found, probably off being fucked by some Saiyachad Wow
Parker Brooks
>"And like Vegeta's mother, I will accept all comers." >"How dare..."
Jaxson Fisher
If Eighter is full android he should be dead after Kid Buu destroyed Earth, if not he can get a woman.
Michael Allen
Agreed. DB was easier to understand when you can know everything about a character's combat prowess simply by having a numerical representation that measured it. Now Tori is so absent minded, you have Goku getting injured by normal laser blasts fired from the weapons of generic villainous minions. The moment Tori got rid of power levels is when I lost faith in him as a writer. I used to impress my friends by memorizing all the power levels shown in Dragon Ball, I even remember the ones from minor characters, such as Cui (18,000).
Now that Tori has removed power levels from the equation, Dragon Ball is just a generic show, with no real meaning. What value is it to demonstrate how powerful a character is if I don't know its precise numerical value? Damn Tori to hell for thinking there are more important things to Dragon Ball than power levels. No one cares about the tactics, fighting styles, or super forms, I'm here to memorize the numbers and to provide objective evidence of how one character can defeat another, simply by examining their power level.
It is not just knowing how powerful Frieza is, it is demonstrating it by showing how large his number is compared to the others.
Tyler Martinez
Loli Chi Chi>Teen>Buu saga>Saiyan saga to Cell Saga>Super
Levi Baker
He's not. he gave Energy to Goku's spirit ball. Which is reassuring because that also means Arale would still be dead too.
Grayson King
pinnacle of taste
Jose Walker
For me Buu saga> Teen> Loli >Cell>Super=Saiyan (Cell gets points for having some fun slapstick moments and having Chi-chi, although begrudgingly let Goku and Gohan fight.)
Carter Ross
>"Beerus killing billions of people is okay because it's his job!" So does that mean in, say, Dodoria or Zarbon were to blow up a planet because Frieza commanded it, it would be morally acceptable because it's "their job"?
Oliver Price
>18 looks younger in Super than she does in Z Krillin just keeps winning
Landon Anderson
Toriyama's best traits is writing himself out of a corner
Nobody knows how to wing it like he does
Bentley Sanders
I am so very, very looking forward to that figure of Loli Chi-Chi.
Really hope they make one of Teen too.
Brandon Hall
>didn't train
Except he did. he was training with Piccolo when he said 'sure Imma come oh wait i have a meeting sorry dad' so they took Piccolo.
Gohan IS training after Frieza returned and he's stronger than Piccolo. Remember NOONE could ever get a good read on Gohan because he's always relaxed. He's obviously not on par with the top echelon of Z cucks but he's still way stronger than Piccolo who was cucked by Shisami and Ginyu, both of who Gohan one shot in SSJ.
Ethan Perez
It was implied a couple times that Frieza had to get permission from Beerus somehow before out-right destroying a planet.
Noah Johnson
When did 17 ever hear Goku's voice?
Ryan Bailey
>those scans Are you from the past?
Parker Turner
frieza isn't a god because he didn't do 8 months of training so no his authority means nothing. I bet beerus doesn't even blow another planet up from here on out.
Julian Wood
I used to have a better page but my hard drive is fucked up so for now I gotta use google searches.
Isaac Stewart
To be fair, Krillin also looks younger.
Camden Cooper
...
John Murphy
I want one of Buu/Super Chi-chi. Bet she's be cheap too cuz I'm probably the only one who'd buy it.
Alexander Taylor
Everyone looks younger with the new designs
Alexander Jones
That scene put a tear in my eye in the anime, too bad they went full comedy afterwards.
Cooper Wright
Beerus is a genuine deity whose appointed task in the universe is to weed out "Junk" worlds and keep balance in the universe as it develops.
Granted we don't exactly see a lot of the dignity and wisdom he claims his job entails, given that his criteria for whether or not to allow a world's continued development seems dependent upon how much he likes their cuisine.
Nicholas Fisher
Puar and Oolong are more important characters in Super than Gohan, Goten, and Piccolo are in GT.
Xavier Stewart
When you consider how they were part of the OG crew, they really ought to be.
Oliver Perry
>Gokou God translators were so terrible back then. How do you even make that mistake?
Cameron Hughes
Just like Mai, Shu, and Pilaf?
Mason Long
I trust Old Kaioshin when says that the god of destruction is unnecessary desu.
Joshua Hall
Beerus told him to destroy Planet Vegeta because the Saiyans pissed him off. Also before Frieza pissed Beerus off and got his ass beat by him, they supposedly got along pretty well according to Toriyama from Volume F.
>Even Freeza is no match for the God of Destruction Beerus, no matter what he does! Since they both destroy stuff, they got along reasonably well, but one time Freeza had his clock cleaned when he got carried away and made Beerus angry.
Henry Phillips
Which is a tiny bit inconsistent when you think about his statements in Resurrection F, where he mutters about how his father told him to never mess with A) Majin Buu and B) Beerus the Destroyer, which kind of makes it sound like he's not familiar with either.
Granted you could claim that his then focusing on Majin Buu makes it sound like that's the one he's less familiar with.
Daniel Cooper
reminder SSB has a stamina cost
In episode 38, at about 17 minutes Hit asks Goku to transform, to which Goku says >Oh, that drains my stamina real bad, so I'll do that later. I ain't figured out how to beat you yet, so i wanna buy as much time as i can.
Eli Morris
>Even Freeza is no match for the God of Destruction Beerus, no matter what he does! Since they both destroy stuff, they got along reasonably well, but one time Freeza had his clock cleaned when he got carried away and made Beerus angry. Cool, I heard somewhere that Freeza was in line to be the next God of Destruction after Beerus, is that true? Where is it from?
Adrian Ortiz
Wasn't there a short scene in both the movie and the retelling in Super where Frieza reacts to Beerus? Even in his Golden from he was still scared of him.
I think Trunks is just bashful as fuck when it comes to things like this.
Christian Gray
and Toyotaro is respecting that element just fine in the Manga, Hit needs to channel and maintain a high PL to have a full durational Tokitobashi. The Manga also doesn't fuck around with SSBxKK10 which really ruined it once again by Toei.
Julian Robinson
>Pregnant Cute.
Huh. Neat.
Bentley Davis
Why is no one responding to this amazing post? Especially
>I used to impress my friends by memorizing all the power levels shown in Dragon Ball, I even remember the ones from minor characters, such as Cui (18,000).
Is this a copypasta I haven't seen before?
Jeremiah Davis
>I used to impress my friends by memorizing all the power levels shown in Dragon Ball, I even remember the ones from minor characters, such as Cui (18,000). >What value is it to demonstrate how powerful a character is if I don't know its precise numerical value? >Damn Tori to hell for thinking there are more important things to Dragon Ball than power levels. >No one cares about the tactics, fighting styles, or super forms, I'm here to memorize the numbers >It is not just knowing how powerful Frieza is, it is demonstrating it by showing how large his number is compared to the others. Nigga, are you serious?
Brandon Thomas
>taking bait seriously low quality bait but with a lot more effort, b-movie bait
Anthony Reyes
>episode 62: Trunks' Super Power every part of me being consumed by the thought of Mai dying again
Connor King
huh?
Samuel Bell
yes user
Jaxon Price
best trunks forever
Elijah Lee
Not sure if legit
David Williams
titles are tentative, show titles are longer, but tv listings as legit as it gets
Michael Powell
toryiama's rendition of gogeta is he canon now?
Juan Bennett
Nah, don't worry about that user.
It's legit, these are just provisional titles.
Brayden Diaz
I feel like that movie giving Mai a large role may have had a hand in Toriyama wanting to bring back the Pilaf gang. His distaste for that movie was one of the driving factors that got him back into working on the series after all.
Zachary Garcia
Dont forget that Oct 30 will be the last ep of the arc
Kevin Howard
He is still Expanded Universe Canon until he is published and serialized into the storyline adaptation whether it be manga or anime of Super.
Bentley Wright
it's as canon as ssj4 goku
Jacob Wright
But Gogeta actually has a chance of existing since we know how fusions look like
Caleb Price
Sauce?
Hunter Taylor
>17 was said to have settled with a wife and children >we never see them It hurts.
Alexander Edwards
after which we get another 3 or so filler episodes
Isaiah Sanders
He has none. Just because it says Vegeta's fierce battle makes people think it's the last episode for some reason.
Bentley Reyes
The future timeline needed another character to facilitate Trunks's (and the audience's) emotional connection to his timeline aside from Future Bulma. Creating a new character would not have been as effective because the comparison of the effects the different timelines would be poor but the ranks of characters that could possibly still be alive in that timeline are thin.
Easton Morgan
I can't wait, the headlines will be "The prince of all Saiyans saves all the universes"!
Jose Bell
Yeah, I thought so.
Jayden Martinez
it's just common sense, dragon ball arcs close after a big fight
Matthew Russell
don't expect too much you know what happened last time bro
Jackson Nelson
Technically he is the King of all saiyans now
Joseph Richardson
Would be a welcome change of pace from "local prince jobs to new villain"
Robert Jones
>Vegeta "deserves" a win How do Vegetards determine whether or not someone determines a win? Vegeta already got three wins last arc, Piccolo got none. Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Kuririn got none. Gohan isn't getting any, tell me why Vegeta, who probably should have stayed dead after the Namek saga, "deserves" a win
Brody King
Common sense should tell you that it won't be Vegeta who will finish the battle.
Nolan Martin
it depends, but I don't think that's how royalty works for humans. since he was exiled as a prince and has no subjects he'll forever stay a prince unless he regains legitimacy aka subjects.
Mason White
>cut your hair short. You know so people can't grab it while you're in a fight.
by vegeta winning we mean he concludes the arc, goku has been doing so for a long time, gohan did by destroying cell, and now trunks may get his this time.
Dylan Gomez
>tell me why Vegeta kuririn got android 18 tien won tha martial arts torunament thats his big W piccolo beat raditz first major villain of Z that's his W gohan has cell vegeta besides fodder has not yet beaten a major villain.
Angel Ramirez
Piccolo did.
James Thompson
>Piccolo got none
I really don't get what they were thinking. Did they really think Piccolo jobbing, getting told he's fucking useless, and Vegeta one shotting Frost was more satisfying than just fucking throwing Piccolo a bone?
Grayson Brooks
Vegeta finished his arc when he died on Namek and stopped being (as much of) a prick
They went from 1,400 to around the strength of the Ginyu Force.
Oliver Jones
we need to bring back a girl from the old series to give piccolo some love
Matthew Wilson
Namekians are sexless, they don't need girlfriends.
Ethan Gray
Stop posting this shit.
Asher Ross
>stop posting facts! waaaah!
keep crying, cellfag
Dylan Miller
>SSGSS Golden Cell
Jose Garcia
But user, he didn't want anyone else to grab them while facefucking Videl.
Landon Bell
>facts Says who?
Parker Rodriguez
Ignore the shitposter.
Bentley Torres
>no Resurrected twice over Chrome Frieza
Jason Torres
>Today on >PIMP >MY >FRIEZA
Julian Anderson
Trunks' super power is getting that super saiyan green form everyone's been talking about.
also none of these titles imply a black zamasu fusion.
Logan Taylor
samefag, nice try
Isaiah Kelly
hosted by golden king cold (king cold has a golden bling necklace with KC on it)
Nathan Gonzalez
>ask for facts >can't back it up >s-s-ss--ssamefag!!! wew
Mason Garcia
>King of all saiyans >King of all 7 of them
Jackson Watson
Just stop shitposting, cellfag.
Nobody is falling for your bait.
Robert Hill
It was a Road to El Dorado ripoff and that movie wasn't good either
It doesn't even feel like a Disney movie...it's fucking terrible
Oliver Jones
>last time launch was seen, was during a filler bit in the saiyan saga. She was in the Buu Saga too when they send Goku energy
Lucas Green
it was just someone who looks like her
Cooper Ortiz
Nope it was Lunch
Luis Gutierrez
She was in that Son Goku and Friends special too as a background character.
Jackson Martinez
>Tien weaker than Krillin Fuck this fucking shit Tien should be the strongest ffs
Xavier Rivera
forgot the part where krillin isn't human because he doesn't have a nose, tienfag
Jason Long
your ssj gohan/ ssj2 gohan is off
vegeta states he is weaker than before and that dabura was about equal to cell
Ryder Brown
nope even if it was a brief cameo that was definitely her.
Joseph Gray
What's your favourite saga?
I like Saiyan for Vegeta being 100% SAVAGE
Henry Torres
Krillin was stronger because of the whole Namek saga.
Tien would later catch up and Krillin would retire.
Grayson Johnson
Tien is the strongest
Krillin isn't human because he has no nose
Bentley Hall
In all of dragonball? I think it's a tie between 21st and 22nd world tournament. 22nd had some great matchups and gave us a Krillin/Goku fight as well as the awesome Tenshinhan fight. But 21st gave us a lot of great gags, Ranfan and Perhaps the best tournament victory scene of all of them.
Talking just Z I'd say buu saga. It's the first arc that genuinely makes me laugh since Saiyan saga, It's nice to find the characters all grown up, The tone is a great match between intense and light hearted (everyone's terrified of buu, but just play cards to pass the time waiting for Goten and Trunks to figure out fusion). And I love how the finale involves everyone on Earth finally giving back, helping Goku save them. It's a really good incorperation of the idea of passing everything on (which super's kinda taking back cuz who would watch a dragonball sequel that's not about Goku!)
Thomas Stewart
who is your favorite character?
mine is gohan, because he is the strongest at the end of dbz
Adrian Bennett
Mine is Gohan because he's my self insert
James Martin
SSJ3 Gotenks was stronger than Gohan
Isaac Rogers
Mine is Broly because his power is maximum.
Jack Williams
Wrong.
Asher Gomez
He just had a 5 minute limit
Julian Thompson
Still wrong.
Joshua Turner
Gohan was just the strongest non fusion around
Gavin Bailey
That's some good taste there user.
Hunter Gomez
Gohanfags lets not start this shit again
Benjamin Martinez
I'm not a gohanfag, but he was stronger than Gotenks. It's pretty undeniable.
Austin Miller
There's even a line when he first fought Goku how, besides his "parent(s)", no one else has hurt him before.
Isaac Baker
Wew lad
Liam Flores
>Broly will never be canon
Brody Morales
You can't really tell both had the upper hand in their respective fights against super buu
Gabriel Martin
>Skill, strategy, techniques mean nothing if your power level is lower than your opponent. Goku and Picollo vs Raditz, the first major fight in Z involved finding a strategy to beat a stronger opponent.
Julian Powell
>"Why'd you take off your shirt?"
Joseph Sanders
Goku outplayed Cell during their fight but you know regeneration
Luis Howard
yeah Goku's fight against Cell was far better than muh hybrid rage 2.0
Kanzenshuu´s extensive study and research into the original source material.
Owen Green
Well I suppose it would be better to say they were equal if Gotenks went SSJ3. You're overestimating Gohan if you think he's way above a character who's a fusion and can go SSJ3
Ayden Perry
>Kanzenshuu´s extensive study and research into the original source material. More like extensive autism. You do realize that Toriyama dropped Powerlevels after the Freeza Saga right?
Andrew Morris
From some autistic Kanzenshuu member's ass.
Carter Turner
Its well established in the manga and anime that Gohan became way more powerful than his own father and Piccolo said that Gohan was leagues ahead of Gotenks.
Everyone knows this, except for you apparently.
Joseph Stewart
What power level did they assign Buu because that'll show how accurate this really is?
David Cruz
As a plot point? Yes.
That doesnt mean we cant analyze and figure out the strength of characters in relation to others.
You are delusional if you think these were just made-up on the spot, it took years of careful consideration and reading the manga and looking into official released charts. Others are just common sense.
Base Vegito is 8 bil because its based on the manga. Vegito toying with Buu is anime-only.
Liam Ross
That's because Gotenks was a cocky retard although Gohan was too but the only reason he's leagues ahead is because he doesn't have the limitations Gotenks has. It's not always about raw power especially since buu and cell were only threats because of their regeneration