By their own expectation, definition, and obsession towards it, they are.
This one is in the sense that it's not taking sides, unlike the previous ones which were clearly bait.
>>***,297 (***,895 pt) 2018/05/09 CCS >Next CCS they said Okay, I laughed.
Barely hanging in top200 is not hit tier at all.
More like 5k sales slight success tier.
Slow Start is starting?
>Killing tier >Killing Bites Is this a good thing?
>it's not taking sides The moment you make a stalker thread you've already taken a side.
Nope. It's having a slow finish.
I blame this on Nero getting to excaliblast things with fire.
genuinely curious, what expectations would A-1 and Trigger have towards the sales of DitF seeing as its a original series with a airing manga besides it? I dont think its flopping for them.
VEG on the other hand..i dont know what kyoani expects in sales but marketing for the show was pretty intense i've heard.
We all think it's selling fine.
It's the fact that they hyped their shows through the roof and thought they would break the records that is making them cry. Hard.
There's only one winner, even with the >event ticket meme it'll average better than all other shows.
I don't think anyone but Trigger fanboys thought Franxx was going to be anything other than an above-average seller. If anything, it's VEG that will likely end up being a sales disappointment (regardless of what its ultimate average will be) considering it was the most hyped show of the season (it had constant promotions for almost two years).
VEG is literally The Last Jedi of Kyoani. With all those marketing costs it's a total flop.
>muh netflix >muh China/Western market >muh but the novel is selling really well >muh kyoani store
>But Cred Forums keeps telling me it's a flop and japs hate it. 166 is not hit-tier at all. Besides it's just after the episode. It generally stays around 300. It's gonna do 3-4k at best.
>It's gonna do 3-4k at best.
Yeah right. Blend S reached those numbers and didn't rank nearly as well as FranXX does.
Blend S had long legs though.
It sold 3.5k on the first week.
Why is Marchen Madchen flopping so hard? Doesn't it have Kantoku art?
If I shitpost about the counter arguments they become false, haha!
>Beatless Well we had a recap episode this week and it's two cours so it can probably recover once it gets going. Still better than Killing Bites though.
well VEGfags dont have problems dismissing franxx as fail when franxx is insanely popular in the west as well and also has a well selling manga
But why is Killing Bites flopping?
For those who still want to continue the same old discussion.
>well selling manga I'm a franxxfag and what the fuck?
Nobody in the West even cares if any of these shows airing this season will sell well enough in terms of merchandise or disc sales to justify a new anime season some time later. The only one who does is Mami Kawada Lover, because he wants to be buttbuddy with someanithing.
Only actual source I found lists it at 94k, which is still pretty good.
Put your trip back on.
Nah, I'm not really attached to any of this season's shows.
You can just buy the single then.
The west makes no money though.
Crunchyroll does, no matter what the Cred Forums contrarians say.
In fact, any westerner wasting his money on anime merchandise from Japan directly is a dummy. They'll get the anime they wanna watch for free anyway, and the only thing that would be worth spending money on for anime related things are streaming services, and only because those have huge libraries and search engines if the viewers can't be arsed to search for the anime they wanna watch themselves.
Damn VEG is flopping. Feels fucking great darlings
>10m over the past ten years >literal chump change
>Just the title they said
But the Westerners do make money from anime, anons. He didn't say that Japan makes money from the West. :^)
The number is closer to 100m though, and in any case that's still a respectable number.
>Next Sakura Trick they said But muh streaming
>respectable >can barely even fund one and a half season of anime
And now, Crunchyroll is being even smarter by simply being part of the production committee system to save on licensing fees for the streaming rights.
>Just the title they said I know nothing about Slow Start but this shit cracks me up every time
>***,386 (**1,342 pt) 2018/04/04 VEG Bravo KyoAni
>Devilman actually sold I give up on trying to figure out the japs.
I holds a special legacy. Might as well ask why there are people who bought Bersek
I watch almost everything from this season and enjoy most of it. I don't need pointless numbers to tell me what I should like or not.
W-wait! How did you find out?
>The west makes no money though.
>***,372位/***,540位 (***,274 pt) 2018/03/28 スロウスタート 1 [Blu-ray] Did something happen last episode? Slow Start finally started, it's been hovering around the 2000's before th is.
New episode aired user, expect it to go down again soon.
So? That was just the past. In the present, they're directly funding shows like Yuru Camp and Sora Yori by being on the production committees.
The eternal I have no argument and I'm frustrated so I'm going to post smug.
>Next Vanadis they said Was that shit even popular? Literally no one talks about it anymore
Based Netflix is saving the entire anime industry all by itself. KyoAni, Trigger, Bones, Production I.G. and Wit said so, nobody should ever bother them ever again.
You had no arguments to begin with.
Argument is: the west makes no money Brainlet.
>***,166 (***,834 pt) 2018/04/25 DitF IT'S NOT FAIR, FRANXXBROS!
Which is a obviously false statement that you can't back up even with fake articles.
They just license it for streaming rights you knob. It's the smallest fucking dick barely poked into the pie.
Those are shit sales compared to what Cred Forums was hyping, putting it to Bakemonogatari and LL levels.
No one hyped PTE.
Whatever you're taking, use more or less of it.
Only a moron would spend more money on producing anime than is necessary. If the nips are dumb enough that they're fine with 100 (one hundred) us dollars for buying-in into the committee to give away license that make millions of dollars each month, then it's their loss.
And yet CR is quite literally just a drop in the bucket compared to the actual billions of revenue the industry makes.
FUND IT TROYCA
Kururonchuriroru-oshishio-dono is now part of this billion dollar industry, just as is birribirri-sama from China. Gaijin stronk.
Are crunchy's own articles fake now?
>all that shit in Hit tier If it's not consistently ranking in the Top 100s then it's not a hit.
No, they actively funded the production. That's why they're actually on the production committees.
And crunchy is the only western entity that pays Japan?
>Just the title they said
For anime? Pretty much. And it's just scraps.
Nobody hyped PTE. Everyone was expecting it to be shit.
Everything flop except PTE and VEG. Good show >***,126 (***,522 pt) 2018/05/23 Fate Extra Only 126? flop clone fateSN >***,166 (***,834 pt) 2018/04/25 DitF Only 166? definitely flop clone Eva >***,377 (**1,091 pt) 2018/04/25 Overlord Only 377? Too bad for lizardporn, flop >***,386 (**1,342 pt) 2018/04/04 VEG Good, not flop
We have seen different threads then.
The fuck? Cred Forums does not even know what PTE was. Then it was marketed as "kuso manga". No one even cared about it
>***,*10位/***,*13位 (**2,678 pt) 2018/03/28 ゆるキャン△ 1 [Blu-ray] Can it make single digits?
It's more like you only started to care after you realized the anime was decently popular. Then suddenly, Cred Forums was 'always' hyping up PTE.
Pathetic, user. You're the type of person who would enjoy PTE.
I fucking hate it tho, save for the bits with Rikyako's voice.
Stop replying to me, trash user.
>that subtle damage control for FranXX
>***,347 (**1,233 pt) 2018/03/14 Touken Ranbu Feels good to be a fujoshit
I'm worried about the West funding anime, but Yurucamp is actually really good. I'm conflicted.
Feels bad though, it's selling less than S1 and threads aren't as comfy because a lot of people complain >why did X sword get so much attention while X sword was ignored I don't think we will get S3.
VEG can flop, Kyoani doesn't care. They are still riding the KnK wave right into the Hibike movie. As long as no one gives Yamada a reason to leave KyoAni will be fine.
user Koe no Katachi was two years ago. Also it seems the recent Hibikek films didn't do too well there.
>Samsung Colors >Next Tenshi no 3P That isn't even same genre
You won't ask this question if you watched it
But Kantoku art
But they can't even draw the art out properly
Why are Kantoku art shows flopping first? First Imosae, and now Marchen Madchen.
But the art still looks cute and is still clearly Kantoku.
so many (((they))) in this thread
Still sad to see a Kantoku show flop, especially when said show is full of cute girls.
Why does no one care about MM? It has some of the cutest girls of the season.
Fate/Extra blurays don't have to sell, it just has to have good ratings on Netflix and make FGO more popular.
What happened to Grancrest? Also:
>Takunomi doing that poorly I guess it's RIP Production IMS after all.
I want fate cooking to succeed, though
>***,146位/***,142位 (***,840 pt) [*,**7予約] 2018/04/25【Amazon.co.jp限定】ダーリン・イン・ザ・フランキス 1 >***,147位/***,133位 (***,526 pt) [*,**0予約] 2018/05/23【Amazon.co.jp限定】Fate/EXTRA Last Encore 1 >***,223位/***,313位 (***,516 pt) [*,**9予約] 2018/04/25 ダーリン・イン・ザ・フランキス 1 >***,293位/***,411位 (***,299 pt) [*,**0予約] 2018/05/23 Fate/EXTRA Last Encore 1 How will Fatefags ever recover?
Pop Team Epic was basically a short. It wasn't a fully priced BD. Their numbers mean shit.
>Using a snapshot of ranking alone to determine tiers, when they are heavily influenced by listing/release date and the day of the week >Only showing one arm of each series, which skews series that have one arm only, or with arms that perform disproprtionately differently Don't make another salesfag thread until you learn how to actually interpret Stalker.
Fixed by pre-orders because even the worst selling show spike to the top ranks when they air or are released.
Also, Pop Team and Emiya menu are shorts, therefore they aren't full BD price, therefore their numbers mean shit.
Still not a good way to tier them because it completely ignores listing and release date. If you want tiers you need to use the final projections.
FranXX and Extra both went up later than the rest so it's somewhat misleading to portray them with the points.
>After the Rain
I hate nips so much, such a good comfy show.
Boring af cookie-cutter by the book shojo shit. Not even overrated directing can save it
you've never read a shoujo
So many buzzwords.
What's the point of there threads if everyone is going to say everything flopped?
It's true, but faggots like OP >purposely< pick dates and certain days when some shows orders already spiked and are declining until the next time they air.
>***,141 (**1,492 pt) 2018/03/28 Antarctica The world is in peace again
I want to see it keep going up. I haven't enjoyed a show this much a long time.
Grancrest is just bad. The pacing is so fast it's fucked. The show isn't a narrative, it's just a list of things that are happening.
>**5,412 (***,*80 pt) 2018/03/28 Killing Bites
No, it's garbage.
Marchen deserves it, Imosae doesnt.
Don't be a sore loser, especially when hiring different A-list voice actors every episode costs much more than animating.
That doesn't take into account release dates though. Since some shows went up for preorder earlier or later than others, points aren't super accurate yet. You usually go by rank until maybe the month of release.
Not really, usually these threads would be made at certain times of the months (like every Sunday). It would just so happen that some shows are at their peak or lull.
Not if they get paid by how much lines they voice.
What's the surprise hits and flops of the season? Who would have thought that Yurucamp would be doing well and VEG would be doing only average?
Do sales matter for a Netflix show that's airing for 10x times the audience?
I don't care about VEG by the way, it looks rather boring.
>airing for 10x times the audience? and kyoanus fags said VEG is pleb filter when it's actually a pleb magnet
it is succeeding before it even began
>***,*49 (**9,078 pt) 2018/02/23 Idolish 7 jesus fuck
>shit taste Says you, it's garbage and thank god it's flopping hard.
Devilman is a surprise hit because Go Nagai stopped being profitable in a decade. The previous attempt at adapting the manga was in 2004 with the live action movie. It failed horribly and ranked the worst movie of all time in Japan even ahead of Dragonball Evolution.a
What are the 2 sets of numbers representing? I've never been able to tell what I'm looking at.
The first number is the rank, nobody knows what the second number is.
The second number is computed by aggregating the ranking of each product over time in an attempt to approximate the relationship between ranking and oricon sale number when a product is to be released
I don't think each of those audience pay at least 1/10 the price of entire set of BD so that doesn't matter that much
The audience doesn't pay anything, it's netflix that threw money at kyoani and gave them subs and dubs in god knows how many languages. A paying audience is more like bilibili, where new episodes for VEG are pay-to-view for a week. Of which episode 6 had 610k paid views last I checked.
Netflix revenue come from its monthly payment. at ~10usd/month and it would be 3 month for a seasonal show or less for one off viewing, the average revenue per viewership would be lower than an audience that buy BD by quite a lot.
Sorry, wrong board.
One of the girls dyked out with a teacher.
But netflix doesn't release its data. All we know is that it pays really well.
I feel like i''m missing the point here. Is having an online shop that amazing?