Would Stallman be able to beat Zizek in a fight to the death?
Owen Perez
>prevent attempts to remove the malware. This is what Linux drones actually believe. Enjoy your GNU car faggot!
Also, why do you post a Cred Forums thread in Cred Forums? Are Linux drones this butthurt?
Brody Baker
>pre-builts
Who cares. If you're retarded enough to buy a pre-built in the current year, you deserve to be cucked.
Oliver Bell
Is this even legal?
Benjamin Williams
Laptops are prebuilt
Tyler Campbell
Good thing I don't own one.
Jonathan Hall
>Almost all of my Steam games are supported now you only play shovelware? give me THREE (3) big games that came out these past 4 months that are supported on loonix. protip: you can't, and even if you could, you know they would be even less optimized than they are on windows which mean you need a better gpu, but chances are it wont be supported on loonix.
Camden Sanchez
This is the Local Motors Rally Fighter, it is an open car that you can build yourself.
Linux is fully capable of playing games, and in a few years it will be your only option for traditional PC gaming as Microsoft shifts more and more towards a total walled garden. Already in Windows 10 Microsoft is attempting to push devs into their 'console' mode which severely restricts the gaming experience.
Colton Martin
>Linux supported games
So the ones no one plays?
Nolan Scott
It's fully legal, much like how consoles can prevent you from using CFW.
Ethan Nguyen
Linux will grow larger
I love RMS but look at his website, the man's never going to convince more than 1% of people to give all this stuff up:
In good news, he is looking to >help webmasters of various sites (not related to me or GNU) make simple but substantial changes in their web sites — for instance, to use the GNU Project's recommended terminology.
No interjections please
Andrew Carter
Home building is going to become less and less of a thing over the next few years as SOCs take over the industry. Don't be surprised if by the time Windows 7 is EOL if it becomes more expensive to buy discrete components for a gaming PC as single board systems will be the norm.
Benjamin Barnes
>Linux will grow larger t-t-this year will be the year of linux!!!!!!!
no, user, wake up. linux will never be big. at the very best, macOS will become bigger than MS, and that's the closest to the year of linux we'll get.
if only, instead of having 12 gorillion distros developped by 12 gorillion autists, they all focused on just a few distros (or even 10 - which is a big number compared to MS's 3 (7/8/10)), we could have actually decent distros that work. but no, lets split our forces :^)
Angel Cruz
lol if I wanted a console I'd go buy one
Brayden Foster
Only about 1/3rd of my steam library is supported on Linux. OSX supports more than that.
I'll also be happy to switch when X doesn't fucking boot to a black screen just because I changed my video card and my xsession stops failing to log in just because I connected a new monitor.
Gavin Torres
>you only play shovelware?
No I mostly play strategy games, a genre which is already well supported on Linux with same day launches of the big games from the major publishers. Most of what we're missing are the kind of dumbed down games for the drooling masses that Cred Forums usually rails against.
Extremely unlikely, at least as far as gaming goes. Apple has neglected their 3d drivers to the point that even the third party open source driver efforts now provide faster performance and a greater level of feature support.
We can't allow the future of PC gaming to be squashed by phone and console companies. We're going to be a niche market and their indifference is going to lead to if not the death of the PC as we know it another lost decade.
Jacob Perez
X is going away, Wayland now supports the last big features it needed for game support and SDL has already added support so most games should start to just work as long as you have a modern Linux compatible GPU.
Levi Wilson
There are actually only three major lineages of distributions now. There's Debian based (Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, etc), Redhat based (Fedora), and Arch with a few more minor distributions like Gentoo and Slackware that are still out there.
As far as PC gaming is concerned there's really only Debian based OSes since Arch will take care of itself.
Robert Davis
>windows 7 is 7 years old
Connor Brooks
>windows 8 is 8 years old
Landon Phillips
>Windows 98 is almost a century old
Justin Ross
>windows 95 is 3 years newer than windows 98
Liam Lopez
Good thing there are no PC games worth playing that require new hardware
Hell I still have a 770gtx and can more than easily play any good PC game
Isaac Campbell
Windows 10 is some creepy ass shit, I don't know why they are so desperate to force it everywhere
Jose Turner
>you can build yourself Under the supervision and guidance of the designers
Christian Nguyen
>Time for gaming on Linux?
>Gaming >Linux
Pick one, you're not getting both.
>implying Capcom will port Dead Rising's to Linux >implying EA will port to Linux >implying Activision will port to Linux >implying anyone non-Indie but Epic (due to muh middleware) will port to Linux
Christian Allen
They make a lot of money off of selling your entire profile to companies and advertisers
Parker Bailey
>Windows Millenium is 1016.5 years old
Kevin James
> macOS will become bigger than MS, and that's the closest to the year of linux we'll get.
That happened in 2005 or so. Macs were being bought more than PC. Apple was in the "Year of the Mac/BSD" trend, but they squandered it by continuing to be overpriced pap and never working on getting games to run.
I'd go back to Mac in a heartbeat if Apple opened it up slightly (for upgrading the CPU, RAM, and GPU) and lowered costs + had games.
They're not going to do that since they're a Luxery Car brand for Steve Jobs legacy.
Joseph Russell
So have companies just said "fuck it" and stopped pretending entirely?
Noah Butler
At least one new Capcom game has been confirmed as Linux native, and all of the games from when they were actually good are already playable with emulators.
>implying EA will port to Linux >implying Activision will port to Linux
Why would you want their games?
>implying anyone non-Indie but Epic (due to muh middleware) will port to Linux Is 2k indie? What about SquareEnix? Sega? Its not 2001 anymore where Microsoft bought the only big company supporting other OSes and turned them into a Xbox-only shop, a lot of players are on board and several companies now survive on being porting specialists.
Aiden Bennett
Yup
Ian Fisher
There's nothing wrong with win10 you goddamn pedos
James Rogers
Go away, bill
Ryan Martin
>tfw playing games on Linux right now
Michael Lee
>SqaureEnix >2K
Why would you want their games?
Connor Torres
Shit what kind of porn was it?
Joshua Perez
>Windows 10 is malware Go back to Cred Forums. Nobody here cares about your Linux cult.
Joseph Powell
The new Deus Ex looks pretty good desu. Gonna have fun playing it without the cancer that is Denuvo.
Joseph Stewart
Oh so NOW you're interested in linux. That's the way its gonna be. Pimp daddy Microsoft treats you less than perfect and you come crawling back to us? NO. Fucking fair-weather friends.
Elijah Bailey
They've steadily been improving the UWP system to make it better for games.
Julian Hall
Actually you can have both gaming and linux. There is a tool called wine that allows linux users to do that.
Cameron Phillips
no, still noone cares about loonix get back to bed grandpa
Samuel Baker
and it will make your frames go away
Liam Young
>calling others grandpa >while using software that's on it's way out
Henry Nguyen
Isn't being a niche market what you guys want? You always whine about how much better games were before they went mainstream, and how devs used to make games because they like games and not because it was a viable career. PC gaming becoming a niche again seems like something you guys would be looking forward to.
Jaxon Powell
windows will never go away no matter what enjoy your useless open source os
Oliver Collins
>that are locked to only run Windows 10 to prevent attempts to remove the malware
Oh yeah, it's not like I can enter the BIOS and change a setting.
Carson Torres
ok bill
Cooper Mitchell
>Make your frames go away I have yet to see a game that does not perform as well in it's native in environment compared to using wine on Ubluntu. And I'm not using top-tier hardware.
Ayden Cox
>windows will never go away no matter what Just like anything that came before it, right?
Kayden Allen
How does it feel to serve your corporate overlord?
Robert Brown
steam tried popularizing linux but failed google tried popularizing linux but failed name ONE company that has the power to overcome microsoft and isn't listed above
you can't
Daniel Reed
You'd need to play games to find the ones that don't work, and since you're here, well you know.
Jackson Clark
You can't actually
Zachary Kelly
You need to flash your BIOS to get rid of it on these new devices.
David Reyes
>Stating a fact is serving an overlord So how are you going to convince the biggest companies in the world to switch every single computer in their company to Linux? Because that's the only way Windows loses its spot as the dominant platform.
Isaiah Wood
>not just using windows XP
protip
Government uses XP. Chances are this will never change.
Mason Morales
Someone will have to deal with the poison that is Microsoft sooner or later
Linux is not idiot-friendly enough, that's why there is no mass appeal.
Thomas Adams
Yeah. And? Is that supposed to be some kind of problem?
Mason Sanchez
You have no idea what flashing a BIOS means, do you?
Gavin King
The companies using XP pay out the ass for special contracts to continue development, MS isn't going to let you have any of it. Also if you're seriously going to use an OS that immediately discounts you from any kind of modern gaming, you might as well go full hog and install Gentoo.
Nathaniel Green
Slowly?
Bentley Thomas
If only the sheeples would see that Linux is just as good as windows.
Thomas Morris
>inb4 EU lawsuit
Blake Green
>as good Proove it
Liam Hernandez
I'm just using 7 with updates disabled. It's pretty good
Jayden Young
you think they roll out different patches for different companies and government agencies for an OS that's main draw is tons of compatibility?
Leo Moore
Windows will eventually become so locked down it will effectively becomes a software-based console. Running Linux with Windows 10 VM and GPU passthrough will probably the closest to "open" we'll be able to get in a few years.
Logan Gray
most games not on linux are triple A garbage that were made for consoles
Camden Hill
>Home building is going to become less and less of a thing over the next few years as SOCs take over the industry. Don't be surprised if by the time Windows 7 is EOL if it becomes more expensive to buy discrete components for a gaming PC as single board systems will be the norm. I have no idea what you're talking about
Planning on building my first PC this new holiday sales season. Am I fucked or something?
Easton Brown
Sadly true. You can't install anything worthwhile without getting your hands dirty in the terminal. If they could fix this Linux would be a viable competitor in the market.
Anthony Butler
I haven't used Ubuntu in years, what DE is that?
Zachary Reyes
...
Carter Gutierrez
Looks like Unity with a theme
Liam Lewis
typing sudo apt install [program] isn't really getting your hands dirty if you'd ask me. But if that's really to hard for you, they're working on it with Snap Packages and Flatpak.
Hunter Sanchez
Prove how or in what ways? OS's are complex machinations of tons of software and have many different facets.
Ayden Fisher
>muh gaems muh privacy!
I bet you never signed up for YT or any social media ever and you don't have a phone.
Face it, your shit generation never had a grain of privacy and the second you first used Google you joined the club. There is no undoing it either. So stop being fucking Luddites.
Jayden Baker
>you can either give away all your privacy or go live in the mountains, there's literally no in between
Chase Ramirez
No.
1. It's easier for them to support one Windows version instead of several. 2. Their enterprise customers are vastly more important to them than their consumer customers. The latter act as unwilling guinea pigs for the former, via forced Updates. Any consumer who doesn't like it will have to deal with it.
Jordan Stewart
I do indeed. And again I ask, is that supposed to be some kind of problem?
Brody Hall
I am talking from from a normal user's perspective. Typing cd /pathtoitem/ would be considered high-level magic for them.
Isaac Anderson
If you build your own this isn't a problem. Non story.
Samuel Sanchez
>still no answer >people still think linux will magically dominate the industry
Juan Rivera
Windows xp all over again. I'm not upgrading to 10 ever, that dog turd of an operating system can shove it. I used it for 2 months and felt like I was using a tablet.
Kevin James
Modded Unity.
Sebastian Sanchez
So what are the actual problems with Windows 10? I don't want to hear any imaginary bullshit about botnets or Microsoft employees looking through every single file on every single hard drive connected to a Windows 10 machine. No conspiracy theories, actual, tangible problems.
Jose Russell
Well, better than straight up gnome.
Jack Long
It's a bit misleading.
Apparently on boot the UEFI sets the SATA controller to some kind of unusual RAID mode which is unsupported by the Linux kernel and inadvertently prevents the kernel from booting. With other systems this mode probably wouldn't have been enabled to begin with and if it was you would have been able to change the mode to something else to workaround the issue but here the option to change the mode was removed.
Hunter Reed
>install Ubuntu >open firefox to watch a youtube video >can't watch videos in over 480p
>download chromium >1080p now works, but not in fullscreen >change graphics driver to proprietary >later down the line install an update >display manager is ded because you're supposed to change the driver back before updating and I would have known that if I had read the million pages of update notes
>can't be arsed to try and fix lightdm, install Debian >tells me at the start it saved me from the evil proprietary driver for my internet card >can't even fucking dowload it from the internet because I don't have a fucking internet connection
This kind of shit is why I'm not switching to linux anytime soon. Also, nogaems.
Parker Roberts
You can upgrade ram and gpus. Only thing you cant is cpu but youre running xenons so why would you
Tyler Davis
Linux will NEVER be the platform for PC gaming.
Screencap this post.
Xavier Russell
>I bet you never signed up for YT or any social media ever and you don't have a phone.
This is accurate. I also only have email accounts that only ask for my username and password.
Anthony Stewart
I like how 7cucks still can't come to terms with the fact that Windows 7 is on the same level as Vista now, both are no longer commercially supported and no one is obligated to release software for it aside from security updates. I respect people that se Linux more than the people desperately clinging to a dead OS like 7.
Anthony Hall
If you buy a laptop you are a cuck.
Easton Edwards
You need a hardware programmer you need to physically connect to the chip that holds the BIOS to flash your customized BIOS.
Lucas Nguyen
>imaginary
Aiden Watson
When TV shows have kids opening Command Prompt and hammering on a keyboard and calling that "hacking" then yea Linux is fucking doomed.
Problem with Linux isn't when things go right, it's when something goes wrong. Finding community support for your specific distro and version can be mind numbing and even if you're computer literate you can fuck up your install.
Hudson Lopez
Just shows how windows users are the most casual in the pc realm. Inb4 osx that shit is at least unix certified and isnt limited to 4gb like ntfs
Jacob Cox
>update VLC >can't use my wireless anymore Beautiful
Kayden Gomez
Holy shit, how long ago have you tried Ubuntu? Over 99% of the problems you just described have been fixed, integrated, and now work beautifully. You might want to take a second look at it.
Logan Baker
why do people living in fantasy worlds where the actions of a company somehow make any difference at all
certainly the 'herd' has some pull, things like cell phones and laptops exist, and lots of people use them
but we are hobbyists, we will always have our own tools, or create our own tools to subvert a company like microsoft's "planned obsolescence" of already functioning software
Camden Long
Where are antimonopolists? This smells like monopoly
Isaac Rogers
>g-guys it works now! That's what they say every year Still a broken piece of shit
Luis Young
Sometime within the last year. And I'm 100% sure that in place of those problems came a fuckton of others so for now I'll stick to running a VM if I ever need something from linux again.
Bentley Harris
Hopefully snaps will help bring some unity to the world of Linux.
Lincoln Davis
>Tell me what's wrong, but don't say what's wrong.
Gabriel Sullivan
Unsupported doesn't mean incompatible.
You gigantic fucking retard.
Angel Williams
or doujin games.
Gavin Wilson
Yeah, someone noted in the comments that you technically can't even install other versions of Windows 10 on the computer without downloading the special drivers beforehand, since it's not natively supported in Windows, much less Linux. I could see this being an issue down the line if the recovery image partition ever got corrupted or something, if you can't use the OEM version of Windows for whatever reason it would be difficult to install a retail version over it.
Sebastian Barnes
Because they just make it slightly more inconvenient one step at a time. Can't wait to see people getting sued for tinkering with their hardware.
Charles Barnes
>I bet you never signed up for YT or any social media ever and you don't have a phone. Right on all counts.
Henry Cook
There is actual datamining, which worries some people, and understandably so.
When I first downloaded 10, my computer was running slower, but it's better now. Still, it does feel kinda sluggish.
10 sometimes just refuses to boot sometimes, so I have to hold in the power button. Very annoying, but I suppose it's fixable.
Honestly, my biggest gripe with 10 is the Start menu. It's needlessly cluttered and a pain in the ass to search through.
Thomas Morales
Just keep sucking from that corporate teet.
John Flores
Those run on wine mostly.
Tyler Harris
So just like Windows then?
John Smith
not an argument
William Cox
It's actually impossible to install any OS other than the OEM copy of Windows 10, because you need the special Intel drivers to see the hard drive. By default it's set to a special snowflake RAID format which is impossible to read. Ostensibly this is a pretty good way to secure the device, since you can't load any other OS's on the device, but it should have been optional.
Jaxon Gomez
>run Xububtu 14.04 >get a message that says "Upgrade to 15.01 is available!" >click Upgrade button >nothing at all happens ever >it does this shit every time I boot it
Thanks. Switched to windows.
Owen Perez
>Linux is fully capable of playing games lmao, enjoy your wine or other half-assed solutions
John Williams
>It's actually impossible to install any OS other than the OEM copy of Windows 10
He means the version of windows 10 that was "assembled" by Lenovo, not just any old OEM version of Windows 10. For some reason Lenovo made the decision to make this laptop not work with 99% of OSes and removed the option to allow them to work.
Ryan Carter
I find that hard to believe. I have been with Ubuntu since 14.04 "Trusty" back in 2013 and have never have any of those problems.
Dylan Gutierrez
15.01? That doesn't exist user...
Ethan Kelly
user, I'm running games natively right now.
Xavier Hughes
I'm not at my machine otherwise I'd post a screens hot. No joke it says 15.01 on the upgrade screen.
Jacob Wilson
I'll talk strictly about practical problems. The UI is a bit retarded, the Anniversary update improved it a little bit but it still has two control panels which is mind-boggling. Two menus to uninstall things as well, one for programs and one for apps. Most of people's problems are with the app store which is improving but still isn't there yet. There are some issues with compatibility like every new OS. Compatibility mode goes back to Vista, some XP games run and some don't. I'm thinking about getting an XP VM for older games. Another minor issue is the malware software is a bit overzealous, it's deleted a few programs that I didn't want it to. You can turn it off for a specific folder but it's annoying having to extract files twice.
The biggest issue is forced updating, which thankfully after the anniversary update they've chilled out a bit. It's not as big of a deal for home computers, but for laptops and portable desktops it's extremely annoying. I bring my computer to gaming parties often and the updates are very annoying. You can turn them off though if you're doing something 24/7 like mining, but you have to jump through some hoops.
Performance is generally good, blue screens, I like overclocking and even after 9000 blue screens and crashes it's still running fine and I haven't lost any data. Syncing user settings across different computers is a neat feature.
Hudson King
>imaginary bullshit about botnet They are not by any stretch imaginary, you can't turn off telemetry and even if you do through various programs or registry it's still sending something to microsoft constantly. It's not botnet when without WLAN and disconnected from LAN.
Samuel Mitchell
Why are you trying to install fucking 14.04 anyway? The latest version is 16.04 with 16.10 coming out next month.
Daniel Ortiz
I'm not an expert at Linux but I've read that unless you're using a rolling release like Arch you should never upgrade, but reinstall.
Xavier Sullivan
Do you mean 15.10 Wily? Otherwise I would delete that installation.