>Can't even get Laura Bailey back for the game where her character is actually a major part Is she just, dare I say it, too good for filthy weeb games anymore?
>Can't even get Liam O'Brien back and he does everything Well at least Bryce Nepotism has been replaced.
I like it so far but I feel a bit ripped off, paying $50 for a game that's mostly reused assets.
Noah Ramirez
>not playing the undub
Nathaniel Sanchez
any .cia of this game yet
dont want to buy it because i am a nigger
Brayden Baker
Since last week. Also, all the DLC is already available.
Jace Smith
>tfw waiting until minimum late November for glorious Euro release and have to make do with DQ7
So...every SMT on the 3DS so far..?
Cooper Jackson
>they modeled navarre's buttcheeks
Angel Watson
>leaked over a week early
Will pokemon sun and moon be the same?
Nov 18th is too far away
Mason Parker
This takes way more from SMTIV than SMTIV took from anything
Soul Hackers wasn't $50.
Colton Clark
Is there a way to import a EU save of SMT IV?
Chase Edwards
Whats so great about the euro version?
Hudson Myers
localization won't be trash?
Lincoln Anderson
I thought only treehouse niggers suckes at localization
Hunter Powell
Localization is fine in this, though. It's Atlus, not Nintendo.
Alexander King
I should have just played the Japanese version of IV. Is there any way to import saves on the 3DS? I played through the English version because I was getting lazy, but if I can just import a 100% Japanese save and maybe track down the DLC for easy n' easy money and levels, I might just blow through that version real quick since I'm going to play Japanese IV Final.
Lincoln Evans
Oh shit no. Ever played an English Dragon Quest game localized by Plus Alpha? Ever played anything localized by 8-4 that wasn't Tales? NISA? Working Designs? I'm not trying to be an elitist because I'm a translator myself (though localizers and translators aren't always the same person. In fact, they probably usually aren't), but it seems that a large amount of video game localizers suck. Don't know what Square-Enix localizers are like this days. They seemed like they were getting better for awhile when Alexander O Smith was doing stuff for them, but I've heard people say that the FF XV localization already looks like it's fucking things up. I haven't paid attention to FF XV though, so the only difference I know is Cidney -> Cindy.
Ryder Ross
>EU release Isn't illegal to depict anything negative of Allah in Islam?
Hunter Miller
How do I get to shinjuku, seems like all the ways are blocked
Wyatt Howard
If you can't access it on the map then you might have to go through a different area.
Joseph Phillips
Which area? Fairy Forest?
Kayden Barnes
I got the main quest to deliver supplies to Shinjuko but I can't find a way there
Aaron Peterson
And miss Dagda's Irish accent? Fuck you.
The Elevens' idea of a foreign accent is to speak Japanese really loud.
Ryan Smith
Christ, I need help. I beat fat Buddha man and now the goal flag is telling me to go to my room, but all there is is the option to heal my HP, not advance the story by sleeping. Is there something I need to first? Find Asahi or something?
Cameron Thomas
Never mind, didn't know you could cut across those poison pools
Nolan Sanchez
Just pirate it, for fucks sake.
Jordan Perry
Nah, I don't want to see SMT get swallowed up by Persona and disappear.
Andrew Evans
Fairly sure Azrael is a boss. Actually I'm quite surprised it hasn't been picked up on yet.
Lucas Taylor
Check the quest on your phone? I can't remember, but I think I went to my room and she came in and talked to me about stuff. If you wanna talk to her she's in the room beside yours, but I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be automatic so maybe you're missing something?
Christian Gray
Dont even argue with weeaboos. Theres no changing their minds. Theyre like the people stuck under the dome. Theyre stuck in the past while everyones moving on
Ian Cooper
Azrael is depicted just like every other angel: a lawfag who serves the lord
Nolan Allen
>Lucifer loses his fetus arm Not sure how I feel about this.
Samuel Lee
>SMT get swallowed up by Persona
>implying it isn't already
Luke Hernandez
Ikeda is way better than that trashy Irish accent.
Easton Howard
Say "Happy Birthday", Cred Forums!
Aiden Jones
>pirate games >complain in 10 years when game is no longer being made
Jonathan Parker
Oh look it's you again.
Ryder Collins
Fuck you cunt play some more Apocalypse I can't find any footage of it that isn't some faggot talking over the top of it.
Isaac Mitchell
Then buy it when it comes out? OP is an eurolander, he'll have to wait months for nothing.
Pirate now, buy it later. You anti-pirate fags are so cute, I swear.
Gabriel Butler
Why the fuck would you need the EU version? Hack your 3ds and download that shit off freeshop.
Jaxon Clark
>Pirate now, buy it later. that requires discipline
Gabriel Powell
Nah.
It's your ass that requires discipline.
Chase Johnson
I don't do butt stuff with men. Your Fumi pic doesn't fool me.
Jaxon Allen
Holy fuck, this game is just so damn good. Steps ahead of SMT IV. Shame it's too easy even on War difficulty and the apocalypse earring.
Kevin Gomez
>quest "OTR Exam: Negotiate" asks you to fundraise 50,000 macca >the simplified quest screen says you only need 5000 macca
I think Atlus needs a new QA department. They should get a bunch of autismos like us to test their games.
Nathaniel Howard
>That Flynn smirk Yeah ok.
Chase Thomas
STR, DEX or MAG?
Andrew Lopez
Str/Luc late game is pretty crazy since you start critting everything. Mag for abusing weaknesses and press turns, although it takes a while to get going. Dex for full gunner.
Usual specialised build is 2/2/1 in you stat of choice/agility/luck
Oliver Thomas
I like physical the best, but damn it's always so underwhelming in every SMT game I play. Did they make it more balanced this time around?
Owen Walker
I think phys has it own cheese set-up in Apocalypse. Someone has the picture.
Dylan Adams
>That realistic picture of Shesha-Flynn Fucking hell Atlus.
William Cooper
So I imported my neutral ending, is it a coincidence that it's the cannon way or would it be neutral no matter what?
Also, is anyone finding war difficulty more unfair than the hard versions of other games?
Overall pretty disappointed by the game, first two "bosses" are scripted event and the overall narrative is tedious.
Jackson Moore
>not having a hacked 3ds and pirating it
i've been playing this since last tuesday and it's been great
so much better than 4
Josiah Sanders
>Pirate now, buy it later >5% of the pirates that actually do this while the rest literally never buy it, or get it for $10 on a sale because 'that's all it's really worth!' You piratefags are so cute, I swear.
Michael Baker
Apocalypse takes place during neutral regardless.
Ethan Phillips
nice strawman
Carter Martin
Its explained in the game database. Neutral ending is if nanashi doesnt accept the irishmans revival. Apocalypse is what happens if he does accept it while flynn is in the middle kf neutral route
Lucas Rodriguez
>Cidny is Cindy That fucking hurt...
Brandon Stewart
when should i take on the DLC? will playing them too early spoil plot elements.
Benjamin Hernandez
The game starts to pick up once you hit Fairy Forest, and it goes full on once you reach the Ark.
Lucas Stewart
Facts and reality are strawman now? How cute of you
Grayson Smith
>Strawman >Most pirates blatantly admit they don't buy, and shit on people who do Okay dude.
Most of the ones that might spoil you will also kick your ass unless you're at endgame.
Adrian Mitchell
The translations in European releases of Atlus (and other niche games) are pretty much always same as what America gets. These companies can't afford multiple localizations to same language.
Gabriel Edwards
Need some more rare hoys, boys.
Benjamin Wood
Does anyone know what kind of watch he had?
Samuel Lewis
Nah, it just requires putting the game on preorder. You'll be happily playing it while Atlus fucks around being incompetent, and months later when you've already beat the game and long forgotten it, you'll get a nice box in mail.
Mason Martinez
Here's an ultra rare heretical hoy for you.
Josiah Hernandez
Why do Motherly demons offer their breasts to Nanashi?
>*Lucifer walks on stage. The crowd becomes energetic just at the sight of him. It is made up of mostly white middle class americans.*
>"You know what I hate?"
>*This single utterance is enough to send uncontrollable snickers throughout the audience as they all brace themselves for whats coming*
>"WHITE"
>"M-A-L-E-S"
>*A roar of laughter emenates immediately, the loudest ones of all are the male audience members. Several of the women slip there fingers into the wetness between their thighs and begin to masturbate*
>"I mean seriously, they think they are entitled to everything. We persecuted black men for centuries, all because we knew we could never compete with Jamal."
>*The laughter begins to sound like screaming as the smell of bodily fluids and and sweat fill the auditorium. Many men are doubled over, there vocal cords to the point of tearing from the constant grating due to there uncontrollable laughter. In one corner, several men have begun voluntarily castrating themselves and piling there white genitalia in a pile. Almost all the women have degenerated into an animalistic state of aggression of lust. They begin to humiliate and mutilate the men, who all willingly take there punishment*
>"I THINK IT'S TIME WE ALL TOOK A VISIT TO THE INTERRACIAL BREEDING FIELDS, EXCEPT FOR THE WHITE MEN OF COURSE."
>*The auditorium doors are ripped apart as a horde of muscular black men rush inside many wearing no more than grass skirts and snapbacks with Stars of David embroidered on them. The frantic scene turns into what can no more than be described as an orgy of violence. White women leap onto the black mens erect penises, while the blacks start to rap Zulu chants. The white men all watch delighted, until they bow down to there negro gods. Lucifer was last seen leaping into the audience, squeeling*
>"OH YES BLACK COCKS FIT THEM ALL IN MY ASS AND MOUTH I AM YOUR LITTLE PUTA AIAIAIAI LET ME FONDLE THOSE BALLS"
Levi Moore
Now that the game is out EO5 when, Atlus USA?
Wyatt Wilson
I really, really like this copypasta. Do you mind if I save it for later shitposting?
Caleb James
hoy
Nicholas Perry
How good is Dex/Luck?
Jace James
>Expecting Atlus USA to retain voice actors when they can just replace them for someone who'll do it cheaper
Samuel Sanders
Pretty fucking good. Get some status effect bullets.
Asher Wilson
I'm just glad Ashley Burch isn't in this shitting up characters with her awful voice.
Gabriel Ramirez
I think they got someone from Monster High to voice Maitreya.
Henry Morris
it's good, but guns seem like a waste of money once you get some decent gun skills
Thomas Myers
Weapons in general aren't that mandatory. Status and Elemental bullets are more useful for both STR and DEX builds.
Still, getting a new weapon every once in a while is good since it increases your stats.
Jackson King
8-4 did Nier and it was fucking great
they did Revengeance too, I think
Brody Gomez
>her awful voice. pleb
William Perry
Any demons that null frost for the fairy forest boss fight?
Also is there a place to heal or do I have to keep running back?
Colton Gonzalez
Keep running back. BTW, did you get lucky and collect a magic mirror to reflect his spells?
Nathan King
and miss Char Aznable speaking suave to the player? fuck you.
Jackson Rodriguez
Who is enjoying the japanese voices? I like Nozomi and gosh Toki sound cute, I think its Tharja seiyuu too.
Jordan Smith
Smash Brothers announcer is a better Dagda than Char. Besides you can always catch Char in P5.
Juan Ward
8-4 is kind of bogeyman. They do really good work, but they're freelance and that means they're at the will of whoever is in charge of them. People placed all the blame on them for censoring stuff in Fire Emblem or Xenoblade Chronicles X, but it's pretty obvious now that it was all NoA's doing and 8-4 simply did as they were told.
Connor Bell
Nah no mirror yet but I haven't checked items in a while
Brandon Kelly
Char is better Dagda than super shitty brothers announcer.
Owen Garcia
>Average Trump rally
Leo Lee
Can't you fuse Jack Frost at this point? Also, try using Magaon to remove smirk, an Angel can get it from one level up.
Cooper Rodriguez
Atlus USA is terrible though.
Connor Fisher
get a demon with head crush, it would land daze on him like 80% of the time for me he loses his smirk and a turn so it makes him pretty easy
Xavier Ross
Char is only good if your moonspeak is good enough to understand the importance of Japanese pronouns and speech
Jacob Peterson
:^) wew trying hard Redddit is calling faggot
Levi Perez
>you will never have a voice like Merkabah's or a charming accent like Dagda's Why live, bros?
Julian Brown
What did they mean by this?
Luke Clark
Post yfw Cleo is mommy-tier
Mason Rogers
As much as I can get off to the idea of a hot demon woman having her way with my asshole, how do I beat her?
Jose Bailey
Wait they don't got navarre VA back?! BUT THE BEST PART OF HIM WAS HIS GLORIOUS VOICE!
Isaiah Bailey
>play on war >switch to conflict for fusing because fuck increased compendium costs >decide to fuse before the boss >go fight the boss >"Oh this was pretty easy" >Difficulty was still set to conflict instead of war FUCK
Adrian Ortiz
She was busy with Uncharted 4 and GoW 4. Give her a break man also I am sure she will be back to voice ann.
Nicholas Martin
Is me or shitloads of user make this mistake?
Adam Miller
Flynn on War first playthrough without DLC-shit is literally impossible. One his Antichton devastating entire party of 90+ lvl demons instantly, you can't buff yourself or debuff him properly since -kaja and first part of the battle is total RNGfest even if you will be smart enough to not provocate him to spam antichton from the first turn.
Joseph Hill
It means even Atlus can't stand the smell of a weeaboo manchild.
Charles Lewis
Wait she's not DLC?
Brayden Hughes
She is.
Adam Garcia
I heard that Apocalypse has a Power of Friendship ending, but when I started it today Flynn had already chosen the Neutral path and Walter was already off sucking Lucifer's armcock and Jonathan was doing whatever Lawfags do. Do you still have to kill them or does Flynn manage to Friendship them back onto his side?
Easton Martin
>Also, is anyone finding war difficulty more unfair than the hard versions of other games? Maybe you should lower the difficulty then.
Kevin Gutierrez
I'm in Ginza, when do i get a new partner?
Christian Long
Persona isn't part of the SMT series
Lucas Cruz
So what's the word on the other protags now that AMERICA has the DLC? Are they fusable or not?
If Flynn's leading the Samurai against YHVH for his party, then I want the other protags so we can all lay a series spanning smackdown.
That should be the real fucking Persona route.
Luke Brown
>Get to Fairy Forest >Attacked out of fucking nowhere >Enemy gets to attack first! >First attack is wind, strikes critically, and blows my Hooligan off the battle line >Second attack is against a member weak to wind >3rd attack is another critical >4th attack kills my weak to wind >Try to flee because I'm fucked >Can't escape! >Zan hits me, crits, second Zan hits me and also crits >They attack two more times and kill my last demon, I finally flee >Have to go back to Ueno and heal after a single battle I didn't gain any experience from This is getting really old really fast
Sebastian Foster
Apocalypse takes place during Neutral after Flynn becomes Tokyo's champion. You do have to kill them at one point. You can also side with one but they count as early ends. The actual routes are extensions of Neutral where you either team up with everyone or kill everyone. One of the routes do have Walter and Jonathan come back for a bit and team up with Flynn and Isabeau while you and your demons form another party.
Jaxson Sanders
>Do you still have to kill them or does Flynn manage to Friendship them back onto his side? Both. They die but come back for the finale. Turns out getting merged into a fucked up angel chariot and being turned into a fetus arm wasn't really that enjoyable.
Jeremiah Young
Nope. They're only available for the Stephen fight. They're not even the one's you "know", but protagonists from failed timelines.
Nathan Cox
>Was supposed to be delivered today by 8 >Still isn't here
Kayden Hernandez
Gay. Guess I'll just have to wait for the codes to hack them into your stock then.
Tyler White
>it's totes moddable like skyrim XD
Jordan Rodriguez
Except someone did manage to make them playable.
Grayson Martinez
are you retarded? it's very possible with a hacked 3ds
Hudson Thompson
Has Str builds stopped being shit?
Aiden James
This. It's really just a matter of figuring out what their hex ID is.
Incidentally; you got anything on the guy that did that? It'd be useful info.
Brody Mitchell
Yes, now phys attacks stack off STR like they should.
Jeremiah Long
yeah str is for everything phys dex is for everything guns
William Davis
>pirates can already play the DLC >mfw I still can't hack my 3DS because it's always on the latest official firmware Fuck me.
Colton Rogers
Desperate hit is insanely broken on my strength build. Now I just need to pump into luck for WORLD OF CRITICAL STRENGTH.
Sebastian Young
I think it was some guy in /smtg/ that managed to get it working, but that's all I know.
Lincoln Foster
The large fairy demon that is in that level learns a move that nulls smirk. nobody has any nulls untill further in the game
Grayson Peterson
SMT4 made me fall in love with games again
Isaiah Ross
Can you still do mag, though?
Gavin Lee
Spriggan
Oliver Ross
Asahi is CUTE
Brody Kelly
Do I have to kill my friends in the new game?
Robert Jones
>not buying the game AND applying the DLC to the system Thatll cover the shitty atlus tax
Jacob Martinez
Of course you can, everything is viable. Although STR is better lategame due to shenanigans.
William Cruz
Thanks, I'll head over there.
Joshua Edwards
You can and the ending in that one is arguably for the better since it's 100% guaranteed that there won't be any more angel/devil shenanigans, but you can also go full power of friendship.
Tyler Young
That girl/guy in the cover looks pretty cool
Christopher Morris
Thanks for the tip, user. I didn't even know you can do this shit. Will try to inject the DLC now.
Austin King
To be fair, his new VA is really good too.
Colton Richardson
Is there any reason to use any of the partners? I've literally never used anyone except Navarre since I got him.
Carter Davis
I thought he looked retarded but the look is growing on me a little I'd still prefer something better over Skrillex hair though
Logan Gonzalez
How much Agility is ENOUGH agility?
Carson Davis
Toki's instant kills help a ton in random encounters. Bobo has heals and buffs, Asahi also heals which leaves you free to attack with all of your demons.
Hallelujah and Gaston are only useful in a few specific situations, and I never used Nozomi.
Nicholas Campbell
Slave girl is decent because she can jump in an instakill things if it's possible. I've avoided several horde battles thanks to her bullshit. How the hell is her one swipe enough to kill dozens of demons?
Logan Anderson
I do that with all the games i buy if theyre split off like this shit.
Julian Ross
>Negotiating with fairies Have you ever become racist against a fictional race before?
Luis Ross
Navarre is the best, but Asahi/Isabeau is also good if you need a healer
Jonathan Barnes
Asahi is delicious
Christian Ward
Navarre is so fucking based in this game. Miss his old VA, but his new one has his moments. >HOPE YOU AREN'T AFRAID OF GHOSTS!
Ryder Myers
>mfw still haven't finished the first game >I remember having to do a ton of side quests to wake up a statue and saved after I finished them and was about to wake him up Should I finish before I play apocalypse?
Hunter Hall
>fighting enemies that use attacks your demons are weak to >not refusing your demons into ones with appropriate resistances
ishygddt
Jackson Campbell
That's actually where Apocalypse picks up from so you could probably jump in.
Zachary Smith
It was literally my first fight there. I didn't expect my first encounter to be two Napaea
Logan Clark
Funny story there. That's when Apocalypse takes place. The beginning is literally during the time Flynn is running around helping during the Neutral route and a major plot point even happens right when he's about to awaken the statues.
Benjamin Harris
I go for something like 25% more than any of the demons I can find
Lincoln Lewis
Just treat them like shit and don't ever give them anything, and they'll join you out of pure masochism.
Jordan Campbell
Isabeau is CUTER
William Williams
Are you fucking serious? I stopped right where the new game starts? Should I wake the statue God up first or what?
Anthony Gonzalez
>Should I wake the statue God up first or what? You could if you want. It's not canon though.
Logan Lee
Still, stacking multiple demons in your party with the same weaknesses is bad form for going to areas where you don't know what you're going to be fighting. You get your shit pushed in once and then correct it through appropriate strategizing.
Ethan Rivera
Might as well since you're right there.
Joshua Allen
Laura Bailey fuckin' sucks.
>how dare you! Listen to her play Catwoman in Telltale's Batman I guarantee you won't make it.
Luis Gray
>amazon hasn't even shipped the game JUST
Jayden Garcia
Isabeau gonna get Luster Candy in late. Asahi will get Smirk inducing buff. Navarre will get Debilitate. Krishnas fight will be unbearable without Hallelujah debuff.
But yeah, all phys parthners are pure shit.
Sebastian Barnes
>that sound that plays whenever someones about yo say YHVH
Ryder Evans
Guy who ended SMT4 at white end and stopped there because he thought he was done here.
Should I try for a real ending in SMT4 before I buy apocalypse tomorrow?
Joseph Moore
Well fuck me. Could someone explain what that sand and forest dimension shit was then? Or would that be explained in apocalypse?
Colton Myers
I cant be arsed to play 4 but i feel good about final. Is that alright? it wont be awkward to understand? ive played lots of SMT games before if that helps.
Julian Hall
Why does Navarre get shit on so badly by everyone in game He didn't deserve this
Christian Hall
What did they mean by this?
Bentley Myers
>what that sand and forest dimension The sand one was Tokyo if it was blasted by ICBMs. It's like a Mad Max post apocalyptic future. Minus gasoline and crazy aussies.
And I THINK that the forest one was just a dream dimension that the way of white created unless I'm not remembering it correctly.
Jayden Butler
She's a filthy fujo But we knew that since the previous entry
Juan Lopez
>nozomi and toki >shit it's a "only boss fights count for viability" episode
Easton Diaz
I like Navarre, I really do. But the guy drowned when he tried to fap to a girl bathing. Like shit nigga, go capture a weak ass demon like Napaea and show her what for.
Wyatt Russell
She's got a filthy mind
Kayden Powell
What was the purpose of them though? How did I get there? I need a little refresher. Shit I should just go look up a plot summary I guess.
John Bell
The forest was where the whites trapped Flynn to try and make him end the world. The sand world was and hell world were basically the game's way of telling you GO NEUTRAL LAW AND CHAOS ARE SHIT. They're law and chaos futures where shit went wrong.
Landon Turner
Why are Foul demons such fucking bros? I've never had one dick me over in negotiations, and they always bring me gifts and sound so stoked to see me when they come back after being lost.
Jace White
>YOUR MAMA'S AN OUTIE
Lucas Diaz
>crazy aussies isn't that redundant
Jose Jenkins
>white ending
I feel kind of bad for you, the white ending is pic related.
Brandon Hall
...
Landon Collins
>Reinforcements have arrived >Reinforcements have arrived >Reinforcements have arrived >Reinforcements have arrived FOUR TIMES. THEY DID IT TO ME FOUR TIMES
Jaxon Fisher
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
Camden Baker
Hello.
Lincoln Nelson
Dagda has the best voice acting in this game it's not even funny.
Cameron Nelson
The worst is when you die to the last wave only to see that you missed a whole levels worth of exp and now your partner is a level ahead of you
Levi Robinson
>the horde is weak to hama/mudo >principality smirks >all that sweet, sweet exp
This is the fucking "boss" theme. You smack a reactor around while sad music plays until it creates a blackhole and destroys everything.
It's such a depressing scenario and ending.
>Congratulations on completing your objective I know you don't mean that, Burroughs sorry
Isaiah Peterson
Who WERE the white exactly?
Jaxson Adams
>this OST >IV's OST To which deity did Ryota Koduka sell his soul to? This shit is the tits
Brandon Nguyen
Thoughtform demons from the expanse created from humanities nihilism, they gained awareness of the natural order of things, and how YHVH was fucking humanity, and sought nothingness as the answer to breaking the endless tug of war between chaos and order that YHVH orchestrated to make humans suffer and PRAISE HIS NAME.
Dylan Williams
The white is literally humanity contemplating/comitting suicide, Apocalypse/Final can reach the logical opposite, with a human punching YHVH right in his golden fucking head and shattering him into nothing.
>YHVH's theme is titled evil incarnate The fucking balls
Carter Richardson
Question about YVHV. Does he exist across all SMT universes, or are there multiple YVHV. Asking the same for Lucifer.
Blake Edwards
>those tidbits of Naraku and Tokyo battle theme from IV
Grayson Richardson
But everyone that isn't human is evil in the SMT universe. It's pretty much just a human wankfest
Easton Ortiz
>Not fusing away worms to make true warriors that will win your figts
Do you even world of strength, son of man?
Brayden Powell
YHVH technically doesn't, but the Great will does. The great will gave YHVH his godlike power, but also took it away by instigating the karmic rebirth in messiahs like Flynn and the apocalypse protaganist. YHVH governs one universe, Great will governs the amala universe containing all of them. Other universes in amala are likely ruled by other gods. eg. when the apocalypse protag becomes god at the end of the deicide route.
Lucifer in nocturne is probably not the same lucifer in IV, lucifer in nocturne seems free from YHVH, while the one in IV is a pawn/'angel' in the same way merkabah was It's likely the lucifer depicted in nocturne is an aspect of lucifer freed from the influence of whatever universe he was imagined up in
Anthony Torres
>Tfw Walter will never be in Smash Bros
Hoy needs more love and attention.
Connor Sanchez
So is it known if the actual Jehovah exists in any capacity, or is the imitation YHVH all there is?
Tyler Lewis
The great will is implied to be the closest thing to it, and simmilar to the notion of an actual god, while YHVH is effectively just a demon aged and swollen to the point of omnicience and omnipotence over the universe he governs, to such an extent that his existence alone restricts the conceptual deities like dagda from having meaningful existences or power.
Anthony Barnes
Has the Apoc OST come out yet?
Easton Jones
>Set Toki as my partner >Reinforcements have arrived >Instant Kill >Reinforcements have arrived >Instant Kill >Reinforcements have arrived >Instant Kill >Reinforcements have arrived >Instant Kill >All that EXP Toki is too best.
It's always interesting watching eastern people tackle the idea of an Abrahamic God. They have some pretty unique perspective on what they would be like.
Christian Ward
Oh, and a bit more random information. Mido, Saint Germaine, and Stephen, are all human characters who've achieved a buddha like state and are no longer bound by the cycle of death and rebirth. The healing maiden in the shrine might be another example too, assuming she's not just a really helpful demon. This implicitly gives them the ability to travel between different universes in amala, and it's why they show up as reoccuring characters in the different games.
Nicholas Stewart
the level up music is my ringtone
Jace Gomez
This kind of explains why IV lucifer is a fucked up bald (like YHVH) ayy lmao, while nocturne lucifer is a giant demon angel.
YHVH probably made him look like shit just to spite him.
Henry Hill
should i become a filthy lawfag or do I go dirty demon worshipper?
also can i get a demonica in this game?
Brody Wilson
Just play it and choose your own options without overthinking.
Demonica and black demonica is in the members only shop.
William Nguyen
Neutral
Elijah Collins
HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO GET THE TOKYO COSMOS QUEST
Lincoln Powell
repostan cause the general is shitty
So which build do I go for in Apocalypse?
I went pretty much full luck and dex in IV and had a fun time. Is that build still viable?
Lincoln Torres
ginza secret shop, along with pretty goth dresses
Hunter Cruz
dex is now guns only, but viable.
Pretty much every build is viable, just don't bother with luck if you go for magic, and stack some AGI regardless.
John Ramirez
>2016 >not going full chaos >even P5 did it law is for faggots
Evan Gomez
Laura Bailey sucks and literally every character she does for games sounds the same
Juan Bell
What does Dex even do in 4. I feel really weak and my gun does less than just blasting someone with a weakness proc'ed spell, and I've been going 3 dex, 1 luck, and 1 agility a level for list thirty levels.
Dominic Watson
Yeah, but dex is for gun skills and str is for phys skills Both are viable with luck
Michael Perry
Buffs physical skills. I finished IV with like 300 Dex and I was mowing through demons like nobody's business
Chase Harris
Nothing, dex is a meme stat.
Literally the only thing you need is mag, mostly because demon whisper is still broken and on top of that, you can now get bonus damage from magic with smirk.
Cameron Wilson
>wasting all of your skill slots with elemental spells nty
Kevin Thomas
If you're running dex, you want GUN skills from demons, eg. Tathlum shot.
Pair that shit with charge and it's basically the same as being a phys build. You'd use 'shoot' over the normal attack, but the gun skills that use MP will be infinitely stronger.
Asher Jackson
all you need is light/dark/almighty
Dominic Garcia
First run? Blind. Answer as you yourself honestly would.
Chase James
>Fucking King Frost How do I beat this bastard? All my early-game fire users seem to be weak to ice, so he just fucking cleans up with aoe
John Reyes
law/chaos endings are just rehashes from IV
The only answer is neutral or neutral but with friends.
They both revolve around you beating up pacman though in his domain.
Jack Barnes
Every fucking build is viable. for phy/gun always add luck, for mag do the same shit for every other game
Brandon Morris
There's a Magic Mirror somewhere in that dungeon. Find it and use it the turn after he uses Smirk
Aaron Rivera
I got way too upset over that. Is that how persona fags feel like about their waifus?
Elijah Bell
What do you guys think of Lucifers redesign?
Eli Bailey
i'll go neutral then, i've played almost every SMT game but i've never bothered to do neutral before
how do i get it in this game?
Kayden Young
How do I initiate social link with my dog
Levi Butler
head crush / daze
Xavier Kelly
Still retarded but the change in color and some emotion instead of going full ayylmao helps
Grayson Stewart
that or fuse angel which learns the spell to remove smirk
Sebastian Davis
Try giving him treats, doggos love those
Cameron Diaz
>chaos realm Oh fuck this, not again.
Ian Robinson
Why is his arm always so fucked up right now?
Xavier Brooks
it was a good attempt to salvage a terrible design
Adam King
>Apocalypse hasn't been uploaded to the titlekey database fuck
Jacob Jenkins
>him
Xavier Ross
you should have an angel/archangel with magaon, a skill that removes an enemy's smirk. keep evolving them until you get cherub
Anthony Green
fetus
Ayden Ward
>tfw you liked Lucifers 4 design
Ryan Ramirez
Hoy-shaped tumor
Carson Adams
Walter went full alignment.
Michael Gonzalez
I miss Walter..
Cooper Gray
Asahi isn't a dog
William Bell
That's not a dog, that's a cute
Connor Gonzalez
>pirate fags reeeeeee
you cucks rather wait months for release? or be a good goy buying DLC or even waiting for DLC when you can get it now because all the DLC already out for pirates :^)
Leo Richardson
>tfw DLC doesn't work for me All I needed to do is install the DLC cia through fbi right?
Nicholas Gray
>Pascal >not a doggo
Joseph Flores
She's not a doggo, she's Nanashi's future wife
Landon Cruz
Yeah, then it will show up in your challenge quests
Owen James
Yeah but I still see all these DLC as expired or not purchased when I look at the Add On Content in the menu.
First time I tried installing DLC so I don't know what's going on.
Joseph Carter
what about Toki? is he not going to take responsibility?
Lucas Harris
Hikari is my wife
Xavier Phillips
>Hikari Who?
Aiden Walker
Hikaru
Gavin Ross
>literal satan as your wife
Brayden Jones
Weird, it didn't give me any problems like that, I just installed the CIA in FBI and it was good to go I'd try deleting the dlc and reinstalling
Isaac Johnson
Imagine Louis is better, son of man.
Nolan Hernandez
Well I already had the free DLC installed before I tried the CIA, that might have been the problem
Nathaniel Rodriguez
>Autism won't let me play Apocalypse till I beat all four routes in IV >Autism won't allow me to do THAT until I get all the fiends >Pale rider is being a dick Fuck. I don't want to skip anything either this time around so it's going to be a while before I play apocalypse. Also on a side note, did anyone find it funny how there was a horde of people in ikebukuro during neutral route for that one "hope" scene, when everyone was dead before and after that?
Leo Price
I prefer her cousin, Louisa Ferra
Jackson Hall
Lucifer you mean. I want to marry her!
Kayden Carter
I sometimes miss Imagine. Amazing soundtrack, definitely one of the better OSTs in the series. But virtually unplayable in so many ways.
Thomas Peterson
But why? You literally burn yourself out by playing IV multiple times when Apocalypse improve a lot aspect of the gameplay Just get finish neutral so you can understand the story and move on
Austin Cox
When does she learn her last skill?
She's been in my roster for hours now
Elijah Lopez
Beat them both up.
Essentially there is a point where they are all in the reactor, and then law ask you to join them, you say no and fight. Then alien face is like hey cool, join us instead, then you beat them up.
Maybe it was alien face first. But in any case, if you choose to join either the game ends and you get to watch what is pretty much the same ending as in IV for each side.
Benjamin Diaz
A world of strength sounds like a bad idea
John White
I don't know user and I can't help it. I just HAVE to get pale rider and trumpeterer before I go play through the game again. On the plus side I don't give a shit about any sidequests besides the new game+ route exclusives one, so that should save me some time, as well as the fact that I've pretty much beaten neutral already and just need to go to cafe florida. So basically it will just mostly be dialogue reading.
Jordan Ward
Remove her unless you REALLY want media. Fucking wasted my time on her
Cameron Russell
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Charles Baker
>media
son of a fuck I have media three times over now
Justin Hernandez
Where can I find a demon with Head Crush? I vaguely recall the fat goats having it but now I can't find where they were for the life of me.
Elijah Mitchell
I don't really know what you expected.
Hudson Gomez
I'm going to FUCK Mermaid
Xavier Kelly
Yes by the time i got media from her i was already well on my way to diarama and other shit.
Owen Kelly
I was hoping for that hp move boost passive
Im fucking blind though as it clearly isnt passive but a heal move
fuck
Parker Robinson
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Charles Bailey
wait, I already had that on her
fuck i'm retarded
I stopped paying attention ages ago
Jason Wood
Daily reminder that this game featured on an official Nintendo Direct has a little girl having a forced orgasm on her, while you can listen to her moaning and finally admitting "Im too young for this stuff"
Then people say Atlus USA is shit.
Hudson Adams
That's nothing. Wait til you get to Mara.
Robert Parker
Laura Bailey has become the female Nolan North, so yes. It's not that she's opposed to doing weeb games anymore, it's just that she's being offered much more money to do big AAA western games that require mocap and all that shit.
Jaxson Barnes
>Stop moving for two seconds >OI KID YE FOOKIN DAFT OR WHAT DIYEE FURGET ABOU' OUR AGREEMENT OR SUMMIN
Fucking hell why's he always on my case
Nolan Green
Did you really have to post it here since noone responded to your thread?
Zachary Adams
is str/dex/luk a good build? I went full magic in smtiv and I want to try something new
Charles Bell
the most optimal build is to actually spread out your points evenly
David White
Yes, and its working, Im already farming some nice (you)s.
Will probably trade them for food tomorrow.
Kayden Thomas
If you hadn't noticed already, he's a grumpy and impatient old man.
Leo Ortiz
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Cooper Lewis
I had a terrific opportunity to Jew the shit out of Walmart the other day. This past Sunday I was shopping around when I found SMT IV: A sitting in the clearance rack put there by someone fairly careless.
Michael Miller
should i split points between str and dex, or do I pick only one to focus on?
Jeremiah Perry
what did you expect, you're his gotslayah after all
Jose Rogers
such a good design wasted on 2D hope V is on consoles Gotta commit deicide
Adam Myers
what ending should I go for on the first play through?
Adrian Russell
Dagda is best boy. I wish I could romance him.
Brandon Walker
Either go DEX or STR since gun and phys scale separate now. DEX for guns, STR for phys.
Angel Green
I'm currently alternating 2 points in STR/MAG, 2 in AGI and one in LUK every level so I can use as many skills as possible and beat enemies for speed. Is that spreading myself too thin or is it workable?
Angel Anderson
Yes, a console SMT would be great. As long as it keeps devil as sprites and not 3d models.
Isaiah Cruz
>I'm currently alternating 2 points in STR/MAG
Adrian Torres
How necessary is it to play 4 before Apocalypse?
Camden Allen
You're a fucking madman
Eli Thompson
The first hour or so spoils one of the major plot revelations of 4 and the in-game glossary spoils about another dozen. If you're fine with that, go ahead, but if you want context or want to go play 4 at some point, I'd go through that one first.
Zachary Baker
Without any major spoilers, if I go back and beat SMT4 three more times, do all of the endings unlock shit? Or is it only for the most recent ending you got? I only got the neutral ending and stopped playing.
Liam Myers
Jack of all trades are always going to end up worse
Gabriel Davis
Prepare your anus.
Jason Baker
>Next time, bring more money.
It just isn't the same.
Owen Ross
It is a direct sequel go play 4
are you interested in the series or are you just excited because everyone else is?
Jordan Brown
You won't understand Apocalypse much unless you play IV
Jack Young
It gives you additional stuff for each ending but its not worth it
Christopher Thomas
Y'all motherfuckers arguing about chaos, law, or neutrality lack perspective.
Where's my hidden transmigration of the soul ending. Nocturne comes closest with the true demon ending and the nature of the Demifiend, but I'd like to see an SMT protaganist one day reach the same state as Stephen, and basically be a planeswalking human with incredible power not chained to YHVH's machinations.
Nicholas Flores
That's no excuse. Just look at Japan, in any given season the popular VAs are starring in 10 different shows while also recording for five different video games on top of doing events, radio shows, drama CDs, TV appearances, and more. The US industry is just fucked.
Grayson Butler
>map is so big even Flynn tells you to zoom out on your mapper the song is also going to be stuck forever in my head
Brayden Rodriguez
Even though the other endings are bitch made to obtain? I had the best shit by the time I beat neutral.
Christian Long
I'm still not convinced Stephen isn't an aspect of Lucifer
Jack Campbell
Reminder that the white were right.
Evan Nguyen
Reminder that SMTcucks parrot the opinions of the amazing banana fuckers, rasenbran, and Infowars
Mason Perry
Play SMT 1 and 2, user.
Adam Cruz
Best girl.
Anthony Brown
Hey there's only one banana I'm keen on fucking and she's got nothing to do with SMT
Dominic Wright
I have, I just like to think he's a part of Luci that wants to see humanity take control of its own destiny, telling Heaven and Hell to go fuck itself.
Parker Young
Does anyone here find the smirk mechanic amazing? It is the hypest shit, I swear. Makes every fight so much more intense for me. I wish more RPG games had this.
Lucas Sanders
Is it just me or does the music fuckin' suck in this game?
Robert Jackson
it's just you, get better taste
Dylan Mitchell
>fatefags And thread ruined.
Adrian Davis
Thats what we call head canon user
Oliver Sanchez
Same ideal, but the point of his perspective would be entirely invalidated were he lucifer. His perspective is freeing humanity, but in the truest sense, being that he's human himself. Not like lucifer who unironically detests humans and is either a YHVH machination furthering chaos or an echo of human myth.
Parker Mitchell
Is this the best mainline SMT to date?
Lucas Allen
>head canon
That's what we call autism, user.
Ryan Phillips
She was never best girl, even in her own game Bobo got overshadowed by Gyaru Lucifer and Kaga.
Luis Ortiz
The music is fucking amazing. Seriously, I cannot believe a SMT game could be this good. It is surpassing my expectations, I never thought I would actually enjoy it more than I enjoyed Strange Journey. Bless the people behind this game, they just saved 2016 for RPG gaming. I wish games like these would get more love, but what can one do?
Lincoln Wright
Nah, Steven is totally Nakajima
Isaiah Harris
where da qr/cia at
Hudson Cox
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Aaron Miller
He's not. The DLC confirms he's a Buddha.
Zachary Robinson
If Stephen wants to free humanity so bad, then why does he advocate the Goddess of Tokyo in Apocalypse? Is humanity in IV's universe so retarded that they need a blank slate to keep them in check?
David Smith
I think he just believes a blank slate that'll let humanity do their own thing is better than insane old goldface YHVH, who is PRAISE MY NAME, PRAISE MY NAME, PRAISE MY NAME, and making humanity die over and over again.
Aiden Martinez
YHVH in the SMT Universe sounds a lot more like the gnostic Demiurge than the biblical god.
Kayden Myers
getting real tired of shit spawning under me as i'm running.
Samuel Turner
>Cred Forums likes SMT Sometimes you guys are alright.
Oliver Wright
Its literally a persona game now
Wyatt Bennett
He's around too.
He believes he's the real YHVH and wants to take his place.
Jeremiah Harris
YHVH just seems to have some problem where he goes crazy eventually in every universe he's made ruler of, and the great will has to send in messiahs to fuck him up and reset the order of things.
He's a manmade god in the form of a demon, that gained so much power it literally became god, erased humanity, and created a new humanity in it's image to praise and power it with their suffering forever.
Benjamin Flores
how so?
Ryan Rodriguez
Demiurge shows up as a bonus boss in Strange Journey and he's as much of a dick as YHWH is.
Ryan Allen
There's no guarantee that she'll stay a blank state forever. I think Bond hinges on the assumption that humans are inherently good and will do the right thing while ignoring the flaws.
Easton Harris
>Apocalypse/Final can reach the logical opposite, with a human punching YHVH right in his golden fucking head and shattering him into nothing
He'll just get remade again no matter how many fucking times you do that, and then the Law/Chaos war cycle will continue, that was the entire point of the White ending. The closest thing you get to an actual end is TDE Nocturne with Lucifer finally getting the chesspiece he ended to be confident enough to kill time and space and wage a truly large war against YHVH.
Joseph Ortiz
The games atmosphere feels so light this time around
The game starts out with everyone full of hope, the music is upbeat, so many QoL changes make the game feel easier, 11 hours in and the happy go lucky naive childhood friend isn't dead yet
It doesn't feel as crushing and oppressive as 3, SJ, or even 4 do
Noah Thomas
you're gonna kill your friends right user?
Wyatt Williams
Well, they're liable to do a fair bit better without both lucifer/demons and the angels tempting them towards chaos and law. Though I'm pretty sure in the route it is stated that the neutral route does not result in a neverending paradise, but rather a world more like our own for a long enough time, before the same old powers would return and reignite the war.
Lucas Davis
you are going to have to kill them all SMT1 style
Robert Rogers
I'm sending her right back to the persona game she belongs
Easton Lopez
a lot of peoples still die, just not the important ones
Hudson King
This game better start getting hard soon or I'm gonna be mad
I'm at Ginza and it feels like I haven't run into a real boss yet, just minibosses I'm waiting for the Minotaur moment here
Ryan Young
Not if the protaganist follows Dagda's instructions and takes YHVH's place in the anarchy ending :^)
James Powell
>He'll just get remade again no matter how many fucking times you do that, and then the Law/Chaos war cycle will continue Not in Massacre. It's explicitly stated to be a permakill in there, because Nanashi immediately takes his place as Creator of the new universe.
William Taylor
I really wish you had the ability to control your partner's actions, or they were just regular party members. Hallelujah casting endure instead of his ailment-immunity spell is anonnying as fuck on Apocalypse difficulty.
Xavier Russell
>Kaga has a literal 10/10 design and coulda been a great character >Even had a portrait >Gets eaten by a literal who boss 10 minutes after her introduction
David Wilson
>I'm waiting for the Minotaur moment here There's your problem. Now that you understand how SMT works, you can go through the games no problem.
Mason Jackson
Isabeau?
More like "Is a bonobo"
John Nguyen
I'm a few hours ahead of that and i'm still cruisin
i'm enjoying the game but man outside of gameplay it feels like smt lite
or at least what I know of it I still havent played 1 or 2 but I doubt they're like this
Jordan Watson
Stop bullying bobo
Elijah James
its has a better difficulty than SMT4 the extra DLC with the Cleopatra and Stephen fights are pretty hard
Brandon Cox
Reminder that Massacre releases Aleph from his curse.
Cooper Reed
It feels light, and even personaey, but having beaten it I'd say all of that just makes the ending all the more SMT when it gets down to it.
Oliver Watson
I mean, I've played a good number of these games now and I still at least struggle at a few points. Medusa in IV fucked me up, Beelzebub was pretty rough, y'know.
But I'm eight hours in and so far the only thing that I could have seen myself getting stuck on was King Frost, had I not known about Angel having that smirk dispel.
Which is pretty bullshit, as a side note. Minotaur just required you to have bufu and not get Walter which is pretty self-explanatory, as opposed to hoping you happen to level this particular demon with a new spell that isn't mentioned beforehand so you can dispell the boss' constant instakill smirk AOEs.
Juan Rodriguez
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Austin Lopez
I like EO2U, 7th Dragon, and TMS#FE more but SMT4A is such a huge improvement over the shitfest that was 4 it's still decent fun.
Daniel Smith
Reminder that a different Creator assuming the throne simply means the resumption of the game, only with different players. Reminder that humanity cannot be 'saved' because their sole purpose was to serve as pieces in this cosmic game and proof of existence for demons. Reminder that the only way humanity can truly fight back is to unmake themselves and everything else.
Gabriel Long
i would enjoy tms so much more if it let you skip sessions
Jonathan Walker
>wanting your 15 year old childhood dog to die
Samuel Rogers
Blessed be the white
Ethan Watson
>Which is pretty bullshit, as a side note. Minotaur just required you to have bufu and not get Walter which is pretty self-explanatory, as opposed to hoping you happen to level this particular demon with a new spell that isn't mentioned beforehand so you can dispell the boss' constant instakill smirk AOEs.
That isn't even required there's a magic mirror in the same area
One of those, Agi on one demon and the free team attack makes it an easy ass fight
Isaiah Reyes
Your point is kind of moot when you consider that a human became god. Humans don't need to fucking kill themselves to fight back, clearly. You dirty dumb numb white scum.
Gavin Morris
Yep. I died, remembered I had a meme mirror, and trashed Frosty. I hope th other bosses aren't this easy.
Henry Foster
I never got bored with the sessions. It felt like you'd lose a part of the game if you skipped them.
I can understand the frustration though.
Henry Sanders
8-4 also did the 3DS Monster Hunter localizations didn't they? They said don't drive to meme country in regards to 4U but put in memes anyway in Generations.
Lincoln Martin
Next SMT needs to remove the charon/dagda revivals and implement save points instead of saving anywhere y/N?
Bentley Fisher
Were they really right? That ending left a pit in my stomach.
Connor Clark
>I hope the other bosses aren't this easy
Theres one boss that's so fucking easy you only need one demon to literally stand there and tank its hits and have your bff heal him at the end of turn
NPC AI's will finish the boss for you
I reloaded my save, saved my supplies, and set it to auto when I realized this
Julian White
It rhymes user. How often does something rhyme and not be true?
Josiah Gonzalez
>save points >2016
Artificial difficulty should be removed
Dylan Peterson
I guess so, but it's the fight where they introduce/explain the smirk mechanic, so it would seem natural that's where you should also be picking up that particular spell. I dunno, my problem isn't with the difficulty. More that it just didn't strike me as the shit-getting-real moment.
When Minotaur showed up you knew he wasn't screwing around, making the right dialogue choices was anime as hell, and the boss music in IV was hype as fuck. Compared to Apocalypse where I don't even know what I would call the first real boss.
Asher Fisher
No user, the white are just retarded demons who represent humanities hopelessness.
"Why do you not despair? WHY DO YOU NOT DESPAIR?"
What do you think Dagda would say to you if he saw you siding with the white? He'd call you a fucking pussy.
Oliver Lee
A human becoming a god in the end is a human that ceases to be human and instead becomes the being that replaces the old player. In the end, humanity is still getting played, but it is possible for solitary humans to climb their way up to the player's seat.
But if you're sick of the game the only thing you can truly do is give everywhere the sweet peace of oblivion.
Charles Hughes
I feel better with save points because it reminds me to save often. I lost so much progress in IV because I always forget to save
Bentley Barnes
Dagda is a hardcore cunt though
Andrew Green
They did 4U, but it doesn't look like they did Generations. Weird.
>leanan sidhe still hasn't learned her last skill fuck it, it's probably shit anyway.
Jackson Hughes
>I still havent played 1 or 2 Fix that
Aaron Powell
>hen Minotaur showed up you knew he wasn't screwing around, making the right dialogue choices was anime as hell, and the boss music in IV was hype as fuck.
This is what I was getting at when I mentioned earlier about Apocalypse not feeling oppressive enough
in previous games you know when shit was getting real
maybe even let out a whispered "oh fuck" when you saw a boss show up
not the case so far here
Jayden Edwards
There's literally no reason to believe that a human in gods seat would make more humans, use humans as toys, or that YHVH was ever human to begin with.
I mean, if you want to kill yourself, sure. It's dumb, though.
Nathaniel Nguyen
First real boss was probably Sukuna-Hikona. There's a fancy background and everything.
Easton Cooper
it's media. not worth it when you can just fuse mermaid
Andrew Russell
>not the case so far here you definetly didn't fight any of the Divine Powers then.
Carter Morris
I definitely will after Apocalypse
Mason Lee
yeah i already have that and another demon with it, i have no idea why the fuck the level requirement is so high.
Aiden Martin
Nope, Krishna was right. The only reason you didn't side with him is because Dagda has a much better plan for humanity.
Caleb Rodriguez
So for people who have played the dlc, is there another clipped wings bullshit in this one? Because that still pisses me off because I'm ninety percent sure that was originally in the game. Everything points to it.
Christian King
Y'know, it's a complete pain in the ass, but I miss the magnetite mechanic. Walking around with just one or two demons out for protection through the dungeon, then pulling out the whole fuckin crew for the boss fight made it really naturally climactic.
Leo Collins
Doesn't even betray you, in the end, either.
He just tells you "Good Job, Kid" and then fades away to become one with nature.
Levi Foster
no not yet, just got the sword from the lake
Sebastian Wood
>Hey kids go find this demon sealed far below this sacred shrine and set him free >I'm sure he'll help you >You wanna be big heroes like Flynn, don't you?
Oh god damn it, I love Odin so much and I want to be his bro but he's totally trying to screw me isn't he
Hudson Rivera
you probably won't like it, but good luck anyway
Isaiah Nelson
He was just too easy. I just went full retard hitting him with my strongest attacks and he died in like, five rounds. I also might not be paying proper attention but I think the music for all the bosses so far has been the same.
Joseph Moore
Doesn't one of them start with a crucifixion or sacrifice?
seems right up my alley
Juan Roberts
Look at that swag motherfucker. Someone that cool can't possibly have ulterior motives.
Cooper Mitchell
DO NOT UNSEAL THE FLUTE HIPSTER FROM HIS ORB. HE RUINS EVERYTHING.
Luke Cooper
It's a possibility
Xavier Robinson
It was the most obvious setup in the history of setups
Chase Hall
Why would a deity screw you in a SMT game? Get real.
Gabriel Nguyen
If there's one big problem I have with the story so far, it's the "we need the protagonist to do something really retarded, but we also have to pretend the player has a choice, so we'll give you the option to say no but you can't continue the game until you say yes."
I just wanted to tell Odin to fuck off and go tell the Hunter's Association but I'm not allowed to.
Joshua Sanchez
He's a pretty good lategame summon. Would reccomend fusing.
Ryder Davis
There's some plot important database entries that are DLC, but they're free. Most of the DLC is just extra stuff not pertaining to the story, but I think one of them goes into a bit more detail about the history of Mikado and shows why some Mikado people became demons back in IV.
Hunter Turner
Dagda makes it really clear that you never really had a choice. Which is why he kills you anytime you try to fight against the plot, Paper Mario style
Aaron Hughes
It's also weird how you're like the rookie hunters who can't be trusted to do anything, but then you can totally break out a super powerful demon from prison.
Owen Gutierrez
This kind of plot advancement irks me, too. I mean, it's necessary in some respect to kickstart some character interaction, give the player character weight in the affairs of the world, but the fact it's a setup, a negative that you get scorned for, and you can't defy it and walk your own path really kills suspension of disbelief to some degree.
Jayden Myers
that's because they don't know you're doing it
Christopher Smith
I mean in terms of power/ability, the game goes out of it's way to say that you're kids/weak and then you're right into killing demons like anyone.
Xavier Gutierrez
This. why do people think they have free will.
You are literally Dagda's bitch. You even agreed to it.
And you are going to snatch every mother fucker birthday. you want it or not. atleast until the near end
Grayson Ramirez
That's Dagdas influence.
Connor Nelson
pretty sure you are powered by Dagda.
Brayden Morgan
Dagda is now probably my favorite design in SMT. Did Doi design him?
Hudson Collins
did the prologue just flew over your head? you're powered by Dagda.
Samuel Martinez
>Dagda revives you for free
Dylan Hughes
Doi does all the new designs now, yeah.
John Watson
Well staying dead would've let 4's neutral end happen. Even if you did accept his proposal, Dagda clearly has an agenda and stated multiple times that you don't have a choice. Even if you go against him sometimes he'll still end up forcing you to do what he wants. He's not gonna let you do whatever you want. At least, not until near the end.
Carson Richardson
No more je- Charon?
Christian Clark
Coming soon to your mobile comp
John Wright
yeah. He really stepped up his game. I like all the polytheistic alliance designs.
gotta keep up with that Kaneko legacy
Nathan Sullivan
Dagda batteries. Why do you think Asahi is so weak in comparison other than being the trope "token healer that has no STR"
Noah Evans
Have you praised your lord, &%@$, today?
Owen Anderson
How many demons are new or have new designs? I don't need a specific number but I want to know if it is a significant amount or not.
Isaac Reed
Did anyone else really like Tir Na Nog, despite it being DLC, and how it kind of showed a little bit of light to Dagda's character by proxy.
Like, "I've made a world for you, my godslayer" and it shows that his form of domain is genuinely is just that of nature, and his goal is genuinely just wanting freedom and nature to return.
Landon Phillips
>Why do you think Asahi is so weak
Probably because the only demon she's bothered to recruit is Pixie
Jacob Johnson
>I've made a world for you, my godslayer You just made Dagda sound really cute
Aiden Morgan
But Demifiend recruited a Pixie and it turned into an absolutely monstrous power
Charles Reyes
MOTHERFUCKER I COULD HAVE USED HER SLOT FOR SOMETHING BETTER
Jonathan Johnson
some of them don't have new designs, but were fixed.
Like Medusa.
Doi got his shit together
Ryder Ross
quick what app should i invest on early on
is MP Walk still as broken as vanilla IV
Henry Myers
SHe gets Pixie, Hua Po, Vivian, and Kushinda-Hime for healing spells.
Xavier Hughes
And parvati
Ethan Thompson
when the fuck do I get new skill slots? I'm like level 35 and I'm stuck with 6 which is really annoying.
Matthew Watson
The redesigns for the new demons are pretty good so far What else got Doi'd other than Centaur and Napaea?
Ian Cooper
>he doesn't know >not getting free smirks Pascal a best
Owen Thomas
Holy shit muh dick
It's still not quite Kaneko, but hey, it's a step forward
Bentley Taylor
I liked her original design, but I'm a huge fan of her artist. He died this year too, which sucks
Ethan Young
Fusion Booster if you want to break the game. Maybe some talk skills if you negotiate often.
Alexander Clark
>is MP Walk still as broken as vanilla IV The app that affects the whole party costs 100 app points. But it's still useful as fuck and made the last dungeon a lot less frustating.
Kevin Jackson
Maitreya, Mithra, Krishna, Inanna, Dagda, Danu, Lucifer, Merkabah, Satan, YHVH, and the human cast.
Luis Rogers
Well i bit the bullet for all of you faggots.
Adam Barnes
Do I ever get a partner more useful than Navarre? Funny how the most useless guy in the original game turns out to be the best partner (at least so far for me).
James James
The one who used to paint with mouth?
Sebastian Jones
Is there a way to get more app points outside of finding hunter corpses and levelling up? Like how the fuck are you supposed to get those apps that cost thousands of points?
Austin Lopez
Underneath all those armor plates and the skeletal helm is a divinity of nature and wisdom who's forced to exist in a world where everything has been nuked to shit, and where he can't even really represent nature anymore. He's angsty and pissed and doesn't give a shit, because what he cares about has been taken away by the state of the world and YHVH. As a divinity of nature he never gave a damn about humans, but eventually came to the conclusion that using one was the only way to save what he cared about.
He's a more sympathetic character than most would probably give him credit for, if you can see through the fact he's also cunning as fuck.
Camden Gomez
Ate a can of spinach.
Aaron Sanders
>divinity of nature Cool, wasn't aware of this.
Henry Hughes
Toki
Nathaniel Anderson
Buy the DLC goyim
You can also get those point card
Owen Brooks
Only 2.49 for the DLC user! $2 . 4 9 !
Hudson Cox
The motif of his magic is green for a reason.
Carter Edwards
Guys help, Krishna is kicking my fucking ass
Jacob Mitchell
>that random NPC with Ronaldo's VA triggered
Robert Moore
Hallelujah my friend.
Cooper Perry
You're thinking of the Rumble Roses designer. Medusa's original design was by a guy called Yasushi Nirasawa. He did stuff for Monster Hunter, Kamen Rider, Devilman, did a ton of concept art for Western movies and so forth. I can understand why people find his art offputting, but I loved it.
Julian Martinez
Y-you mean I have to NOT used based Navarre?
Lincoln Johnson
>Buy >pirates already have access to every piece of DLC, including the one with all four MCs. Pirates always win baby.
Oliver Baker
>Ronaldo's VA
??
Connor Smith
do I need much luck in my build? just started playing and I've been putting 3 points into magic and 2 points into agility. i think that's what I did in SMTIV, but I can't quite remember
Nathaniel Brown
You must hate playing MGS1 then.
Christian Perry
It's for the greater good, just hope that he uses warding shot.
Angel Wood
Have fun with your Persona games once mainline is officially dead from piracy, winner
Tyler Gutierrez
255
James Wood
I knew I wasn't crazy. It was in that place where the guy who needs the radar pieces is right? Wonder why Cam Clarke decided to roll with that specific voice. Maybe just referring to DeSu since it's a spin off? I know he's got the range to sound much different so I found it funny.
Justin James
Paying for games doesn't pay.
Piratebros get SMT4 a week early and all DLC a month early. It's nuts.
Cooper Lopez
5 points luc is best build
Bentley Ward
Ronaldo from Devil Survivor 2 the lawfag who dindu nuffin wrong I hear his VA a lot, it's always a random hunter I just heard it when entering camp ichigaya His voice is not half bad, but Ronaldo is a huge hypocrite on DeSu2
Nicholas Ortiz
How do I fucking beat Inanna after Toki faints?
Connor Ortiz
Hell, as a Eurofag, it was a good 18 months until we got SMTIV, and it was a digital-only release. We still don't have a release for Apoc. If it wasn't for piracy, I probably wouldn't be able to play it before this time next year at the earliest.
Adrian Rodriguez
By hitting it.
Jack Campbell
I think it's an endurance battle. It ends after a certain amount of turns. I also might be wrong about this one as well since I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure you have to fight Maitreya right after.
Samuel Gray
To be honest, given how bad SMT4 was, you would have been better off never getting it.
James Taylor
And Persona games aren't pirated? Just look at everyone here who already pirated the Jap PS3 version.
Jack Cruz
I'm still playing DeSu2. Can't believe how much they weebed this shit up after DeSu1.
I just kicked the crap out of Ronnie and then the boss after him. Ronnie vs the Hotsuin dude seems like a battle between a chuuni and an autist.
Jayden Baker
As an EURfag who's finished the game and DLC, I'll go to a store and actually buy it if it gets released here before I forget about it.
We'll see if that actually happens. We'll see..
Henry Gutierrez
Should i wait for the DLC harder difficulty, or just play hard? like, is it balanced for NG+ or only meant for true hardcore fans and is crushingly difficult?
Jack Allen
SMT is a spinoff of Persona now.
Caleb Cooper
Just play hard, I might be wrong but I think the DLC difficulty only unlocks for ng+
Oliver Ward
Its crushingly difficult because it makes you want to beat the shit out of the guy who thought programming lowering attack accuracy as a factor for difficulty is a good thing
Xavier Roberts
I don't remember it being an endurance fight I nuked her shit out of space and Maitreya showed right after, I was desperate This game is fucking unforgiving with these consecutive batles, Hordes are pure hell now, luckilly I always bring my beloved toki to finish these fuckers in one hit.
Nathan Reyes
Oh, and you can change difficulty on the fly, so if I'm wrong you can go Apocalypse mode later in.
Jonathan Williams
guys help i'm seven hours in and there's no toki in sight when do you meet toki???? when can i meet the woman of my dreams?????
Carter Long
Same, the only SMT games I don't own are the PSP games and a bunch of the SNES/PS1/Saturn games. Everything else, I've gotten day of release going back to Nocturne ('Lucifer's Call', lol). I have money to throw at this series, but for whatever reason, someone has decided they don't want it.
Isaiah Nelson
FUCK THAT. thats a horrible idea. thats good to know. I may start Apocalypse mode and go to war later if its too much of a wall.
And so im aware, does this game have a hard start like Naraku in IV? just so i know what to expect
Landon Rodriguez
Hard and Insane are Shin Missgami Tensei.
And since Misses cost you like three actions, you will very quickly realize these difficulties are retarded and if you want to play a high difficulty fatlus RPG you should just switch to EO2U.
Hell, I think TMS hard difficulties were less gay than this miss spam shit
I don't think they're meant for NG+ though.
Can't drop difficulty from Apocalypse mode. Must be at start of game. Compendium is still cheap but shop prices are outrageous in Apoc.
Oliver Diaz
How many damn floors are there in this stupid egg?
Xavier Mitchell
Eh, you kidding? You can definitely set it -TO- apocalypse mode from a lower one, I checked just now, though I am on NG+
Juan Ward
Best girl appears on your first visit to Ginza I think, just wait, she is worth it.
Gabriel Lopez
6 I guess
Evan Kelly
I stand corrected.
Kayden Myers
16
Isaiah Russell
>mfw final dungeon is cosmic egg in both SMT and TMS >mfw TMS is SMT backwards
Jaxson Nguyen
Six I think. Have fun in the final dungeon. It's a doozy.
Nathaniel Turner
>mfw final dungeon is cosmic egg >he doesn't know!
Evan Ross
It wouldn't do him good to have his pawn pay him every time he died