Better Atlus Director: New or Old?

Cozy or Hashino Cred Forums?

>Soul Hackers and Persona 1 came from original director

That explains why they were such shit

Hashing moved the series past "generic edgy RPG"

I hate persona and I still think Hashino is better by far

Nocturne and DDS are the best SMT games and it isn't close

Old Coverart >>> New Coverart
New Games >>> Old Games

Prove me wrong.

I have yet to play Maken Shao. Will it work on American PS2s? is it a remake that makes the original Maken X obsolete?

I wish Maken would get resurrected. Such a great concept gimped by bad combat

I agree entirely

Who made SMT IV then?

The people who made the Maniax Edition of Nocturne and the two Radio Kuzunoha games.

His name is actually Cozy?

>Radio

His actual name is Kouji, he just goes by Cozy

Where does Eiji Ishida belong in the rankings?

He only Directed Strange Journey, and helped with Radiant Historia and Tokyo Mirage Sessions, both directed by Mitsuru Hirata, who was also Supporting Director on Strange Journey.

So, with some research...
A Team: Maken X(Shao), Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga 1, Persona 3 (FES), Persona 4, Persona 5
B Team: Strange Journey, Radiant Historia Tokyo Mirage Sessions
C Team: Maniax, Raidou Kuzunoha, IV, Apocalypse

Etrian Odyssey Team
Trauma Team
Devil Survivor Team (Did Langrisser before Devil Survivor)

No Longer With Atlus:
Cozy: SMT, II, if..., Persona, Devil Summoner, Soul Hackers

Other guy: Digital Devil Saga 2, Folklore

Satomi Tadashi (writer): Persona 1 and 2, Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2, Brave New Story: New Traveler, Knight's Contract

>Devil Survivor Team (Did Langrisser before Devil Survivor)
Is Langrisser worth looking into? DeSu 1 is one of my favorite games.

Only 2 of the games on the left side got an official localization, so I prefer Hashino

>is it a remake that makes the original Maken X obsolete?
yeah
it's just not a good game. you're better off watching it on youtube

SMT 1 got an official localization like a year or two ago on iOS

C team best team?

>Added on to a pre-existing game
>Made two budget PS2 games
>Made 2 extremely budget 3DS games

Far from it.

>made a pre-existing game actually good
>made two good PS2 games
>made 2 extremely good 3DS games
no I'd say it is

>2 extremely good 3DS games

>he hasn't played 2 of the best SMT games ever because they're "budget"

Well let's see here.
>A Team
Nocturne and DDS 1 are decent, Persona is Persona, and I can't say much about Maken X.
>B Team
Radiant Historia is God tier, SJ is great, and TMS is a pile of shit holy fuck what were they thinking.
>C Team
Maniax is the definitive version of Nocturne, IV is alright albeit unbalanced, and Aspect Ratio has one kinda bad game and another kinda good game. Can't say much about Apocalypse yet, since I haven't played it.

Long story short, probably, although prior to TMS I'd have said B team.

I have played SMTIV. It's one of the worst games in the series to be honest.

I don't know how much Apocalypse improved but IV left such a sour taste in my mouth that I'm hesitant to give it a chance.

WHERE THE FUCK IS CATHERINE 2 YOU PIECES OF SHIT

Catherine and Cucksona 5 have the same art director? Why does 5 look so much worse?

>TMS is a pile of shit holy fuck what were they thinking.

I thought it was pretty good, not Amazing by any means, but not bad.

Remember that P5 is a full fledged JRPG and Catherine is just a puzzle game. I mean the only area you could move around in in Catherine was the bar so it's not like they had a lot of work to do there. They could afford to make it look really good.

Even so, the PS4 version of P5 definitely looks better than Catherine still. The models are smoother and the lighting is better.

Who made Devil Survivor? That game is rad

This is about Directors, not Art directors, and in what way does Persona 5 look bad?

I'm probably still still too salty about the end product to really give an objective review of it. I'm just angry it mangled SMT and FE in one fell swoop.

Do you like fire emblem? Because they're just fire emblem clones.

The same people that made Langrisser

This is about Directors, not Artists, but in what way does Persona 5 look bad?

That I do, I'll give it a look-see then.

I like them both but i preffer the classic dungeon crawler feel so i'll go with Okada.
Wasn't Okada involved with SMT3 too?

Skip the newest one though. It's godawful.

He was just the Producer on it

Is it basically the Fates/Awakening of the series?

Considering they basically tried to copy awakening as much as possible yes.

Fates Conquest was actually good though.

Ah, i see.

It was decent at best, it only looked and felt great because it's being held in comparison to Birthright and Revelations. People exaggerate the number of good maps in Conquest, and while there are a decent number of them, it's not enough to save the game as a whole.

how is it worse than 1 and 2

I didn't say it was better than 1. 1 still has that atrocious encounter rate making it bad.

But have you even played SMTII? It's a great game even through its age.

Well, a cursory look at the series makes it seem like I'd enjoy it. Is there a recommended entry point into the series? It looks like there's a number of them without an English translation.

Just jump in wherever looks good. They're normally just recommended for what you do when you've beaten every FE and also tear ring but still want more.