You guys remember that lisa thing that was like undertale but actually good?

Fardy Hernandez

Fuck off, LISA is shit. At least Undertale was mildly entertaining. LISA was just a pretentious edgefest.

i bought it and just couldn't get into it

it felt like
>heh...nothing.......personnel....kid
the game

This

I don't know why people keep comparing the two

Lisa genuinely became one of my favorite games after I finished it. The story and humor is fucking so engaging. The soundtrack is also amazing and fits the game really well.

Undertale seems good but its not really my thing. I played some of it with my Gf but then the save file got deleted and we never bothered to pick it up again.

>but actually good
nah

for example, 90% of the ost in lisa sounds like diarrhea

>I want furfags to leave Cred Forums

youtube.com/watch?v=MX8_owloh0w

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It was a trilogy.

Yeah. It was...kind of fun. But it's a done game now - what more is there to talk of it?

I liked both games a lot but LISA is by far my favorite of the two.

no one cares about Lisa the First because it's a poor man's Yume Nikki.

There's not much of good LISA fanart

Indeed.

Soup's on, baby.

I finished it recently, and I had a blast.
Playing the villain was cool, and Brad was a well written character. Also, the cast was great, some of the music was really good, and even though it had many funny moments, the narrative was consistently bleak and depressing, topped with a great ending.

Completely underrated gem.

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You mean that game that I liked less than Undertale and then hated its expansion?

>I'll never see an active Lisa thread on Cred Forums again

How to I make my hair as gorgeous as the Hair Club's?

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Lisa was nothing like undertale and to suggest such a retardded comparison shows you've never played undertale and just hoping on the MUH ESSJAYDUBYA GAEM bandwagon. kill yourself.

>Olan
Most OP character in the game.
Super rapid arrow did a ridiculous amount of damage. And joyed Olan was straight up easymode.

So, outside of Yado, who did the most damage overall? Brad? Buddy? Buzzo?

you must have missed (pic related) if you don't think he is more broken than Olan
Where does the hair club fight music get off being so fucking good. Best song in game?

shit meant to link song youtube.com/watch?v=2fA8OeBltZw

That aint birdy dude.

Nah dog.
youtube.com/watch?v=dkwXKL0F9Fg

>not posting the best track ever

Fuck, forgot the link
youtube.com/watch?v=aZuI3ZkCHfs

>random NPC tells me that he'll give me super useful hint for some mags
>"Hair spray is flammable."
>fucking retarded shit, waste of mags I knew that already
>Get to the Men's Hair Club and don't use any fire at all
>"FUCKIN SHIT I'M RETARDED"

youtube.com/watch?v=ggmj8eEgifk
Sounds oddly peaceful without the barrels

I found LISA pretty boring after a while. You can't throw 20+ party members at me and expect me to care when you start killing them. Earthbound's combat was shit.

I never played Undertale because I heard it's also similar to how Mother games played. Fuck this shit, the text-heavy Earthbound combat is fucking trash, and was fucking trash compared to Square's more intuitive UI.

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if you don't think this is the best ending to any video game then get the fuck out of my face

I pirated it and it's been sitting there for two weeks or so.

Convince me to get the motivation and actually play it. Depression a shit.

No game has impacted me as emotionally as LISA did since MGS3

Perfect game in terms of storytelling.

>pirating GOTY 2014
>pirating GOTY 2015

The storyline is really depressing. The main character is a mentally damaged drug addict who hates himself more than anything.

It's really short and fast-paced for a JRPG, you can practically beat it in an afternoon if you want.

It also has pretty good writing outside of the feels, play it if you want.

I don't get into rpg's often. I don't get into any game to the point that I actually read all dialogue with every npc and explore the whole game very often. I played through all 3 Lisa games including Lisa the painful a second time on the harder difficulty. It took me like 3 days. Just do it. Like an hour or two in and you won't stop till you finish it. I envy you in that you can still experience it for the first time.

>playing the villain
Brad literally did nothing wrong. Buddy was a delusional girl with visons of granduer who wanted to be free more than she wanted to be cared about, his friends where shit lords who didn't explain shit to him, and Rando was a naive guy who was great but surrounded himself with shitlords and gave Brad a reason not to trust him. The entire world was literally out to get brad until the very end when he just stopped giving a shit, even his dad who had apparently 'turned good' was a fucking shitlord to the end.
And Lisa the Joyful only proved this more.
I loved the game, but Brad was one of the most decent people in the game who's only fault was caring about Buddy.

Playing it right now
>that tedious earthbound combat mechanics
Mother was a mistake. Also I absolutely detest the whole "dude unconvenient game design on purpose lmao!" thing. Aside from that, I like it.

>no waifus

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There is a fair bit here.

indiegame.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=lisa(series)

I'd say Buddy, followed by Buzzo.

Aside from her obvious killing spree, it's implied that a lot of the carnage in Lisa was caused by people in their frenzied search for Buddy, and a couple of the NPCs mention that the reason their villages are so abandoned is because everyone is out looking for Buddy.

Buzzo is after, because he probably is responsible for the widespread usage of joy and thus the many mutants you find in the game.

Fair enough. Buddy caused a huge uproar just by her existence being known to the world. Even if Brad didn't hide her from the world, shit would've gone down eventually regardless of who got their hands on Buddy.

Barring everything that takes place during Joyful, everything that Buddy is responsible for isn't necessarily her fault. It's a mix of Brad and Yado.

Brad kept Buddy in the basement for most of her life. He brought her men and forced her to kill them. You could argue that he brought "bad guys" for her to kill, but since when did Brad kill only bad guys. Brad was an abusive drug addict like his father, only he genuinely believed he was doing good, which is arguably worse than Marty since Marty at least knew the difference between right and wrong. Sure he chose to do wrong, but at least he didn't try to justify it. Brad isn't the good guy. Rando wanted the same for Buddy that Brad did except without the murder or abuse so he is clearly better. You make excuses for Brad because of his troubled life and because you made some choices for him, but no matter what choices you made, Brad continued the cycle of abuse, abuse which explains but does not excuse his behavior.
Tl/Dr: Brad is a dick goml

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How old was Buddy?

I thought she was like, 10 until Joyful and she developed her edge complex and had enough tits to flash guys and fluster them.

Rando got completely fucked over by almost everyone ITS NOT FAIR

The guy specifically made for russian roulette fodder.

>mfw i used terry and he died on the first round
>fuckng percy survives all three of the next
>Terry is the only one that died my whole game
Mfw when seeing his ending monologue

truely painful

also jesus christ all this porn of people i never thought of on this booru, why am i still looking.

what booru senpai?

He literally stopped doing Joy for her, taught her to defend herself from people who literally would have raped her(and raped a dude they thought was her), and protected her from the same people. He gave his life trying to protect her. I don't see how anyone can see him as the badguy when people where literally shitting on him the entire game for no reason, not explaining jack shit to him like the fact that Rando was going to take her to Eunuch, or when his 'friends' wanted to fuck Buddy so bad they were willing to kill him. If anything Buddy was the badguy, Buzzo was the Bad guy, Brad was neutral, and Rando was the good guy.

this one

>indiegame.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=lisa(series)

be warned, alot of porn, and some uh...other fetish stuff.

>Only way to bring people's attention to this is shit is to compare it to Undertale
Sad
It's even worse when there are Undertale threads and you faggots crawl in and go "hey guys! check out THIS game! this is better than Undertale! I'm a special snowflake that's into obscure under the radar games!"
LISA fags have this underdog complex where they think they're the mature ones and they have better taste just because what they like is more niche.
Just like NioH fags in Dark Souls threads except NioH fags are more like "make way dark souls! the new cool kid is in town!".
If you guys really believed you were above Undertale you wouldn't bring the game up.

He's not even a girl, look at him!

Got tired of wanting to fuck Connie already Misha?

Ricky Did Nothing Wrong !

>He literally stopped doing Joy for her

He tried too. In the opening, he throws away his joy, but goes back for it, and his journal starts with him waking up from a joy hangover and meeting up with Terry.

It's left ambigious, just like the ages of practically everyone else, but I think she's about 12-14. Young enough for Brad and Rando and others to consider her a child, but old enough to look like a woman to everyone else.

Except not explain shit to Brad

Killed him and Sticky, they murdered Cheeks.

No
LISA is a bigger hipster game than Undertale

He stopped for most of her youth and did nothing but treat her well. She was overprotected, yes, but that doesnt mean he's evil. And in my playthrough he did completely.

Brad would let the human race go extinct just for redemption, looking from the perspective of Richard, informing Rando seemed like the most altruistic thing to do. I think Cheeks dying was miscommunication and Ricky not telling anyone but Sticky.

Care to explain why it's more "hipster" ?

Concerning the Brad quitting Joy thing, its suggestive since whether or not he does is dependent on the player. Ultimately, it doesn't matter since Buzzo forces Brad to overdose on Joy.

LISA is a fairly unrecognized game and outside a handful of characters doesn't relate to the general hipster crowd, while Undertale is wildly popular and was basically hand-crafted for them.

The human race is going extinct anyway. One woman can not recreate the entire world, the genetics would be fucked. It was an unrealistic goal.
And likely he would've let her go out once she was older. You have to remember at this point she was like 12, a child, nowhere near the age where she should be reproducing. That wasn't the time to do it, and it definitely should have been something they gradually talked Cheeks and Brad into.

Admittedly, I just don't think Brad did much wrong other than being mildly overprotective, and a victim of miscommunication and the under the thought that Buddy was being raped.

Seriously though, did they HAVE to fuck Buddy right when they knew she existed? Rando could have waited till she was at least an adult.

Plus, what happens if she has a boy and dies during child birth? They don't have the means to support birthing a kid.

>go to this guy's tumblr
>the full version isn't even there, just that crop
What the fuck, mam

I agree, but in some regards Richard's fault was impatience more than anything, also being in denial about the human race going extinct seems pretty sound considering just the fact of not dying via boom but rather a whimper is something I'd try to deny also

I don't recall Richard attempting any advances but Sticky did, and keep in mind they believed the Random Army was impenetrable and could easily keep 1 girl safe

Brad didn't stop doing joy. He was always an addict. You don't stop being an addict. Even if you don't take any joy through the whole game that isn't "quitting" thats at most a few days.
This implies that Brad put any thought into protecting her other than "I have a second chance". why would the genetics be fucked? there are enough men that would live long enough that it would be a few generations before any relatives needed to bang which would make them distant enough. It was more than viable. If the human race is on the line reproduction doesn't have time to wait for whatever pre-war society considered an adult.

Toby fucking hates the community. Can't blame him.

It's an excellent game with a garbage community.

Do the math. One child at a time, child birth is dangerous considering the lack of sanitation, all children will have Buddy's genetics thus making every offspring connected to one another. Somewhere a sister and brother would have to fuck. Or a cousin and cousin.
And he did to an extent. He really did love Buddy, it wasn't just about redemption.

>mildly overprotective

While I can understand wanting to protect his surrogate daughter from being raped by a bunch of sex-deprived savages, "mildly" is the last word I would use to describe the lengths Brad took to assure her safety.

I do agree that if any of his friends had at least tried to talk to Brad about what they wanted to do, things wouldn't had gone how they did. Brad probably would've still beaten the shit out of Sticky, maybe even kill him. But at the very least not all of them would've ended up dead, and things wouldn't had turned out like it did.

But I also like to think that Yado and Buzzo planned for Buddy to be introduced into the world, and that if nothing happened and Brad kept Buddy hidden, Buzzo would've done something, partly to accomplish their plan and partly to make Brad suffer.

Nice trips. To answer your question, I'm sure Rando was willing to wait for Buddy to grow up before having her mother some children. It's more that everyone knows about Buddy now and everyone will kill everyone else to get a piece of her underaged ass. If I recall, one of Rando's own men raped her and they had to kill him. That's how desparate everyone wants her.

I mean she was 12. Keeping her locked up from a bunch of dudes that raped some feminine looking guy because they thought he was a chick probably isn't all that extreme. And unless Sticky stole her and ran away, he would've been alive.

Also they tried to Rape her. She stabbed him and ran I think. She never got sexed in game.
She did have a kid if you let Rando fall though, and not get molested by that weird guy, which is a bit odd.

Yes it's difficult and the odds are hardly favorable, but assuming no one dies during birth, and assuming the best is what you do when there are literally no other options for survival, you can get to 2nd or 3rd cousins before any relatives are reproducing.
He may have loved Buddy but it was mostly the same as Marty and Lisa. They trapped their child and abused drugs/alcohol while having brief moments of good parenting. (Marty and Lisa's tea party's in Lisa the First, and Brad letting Buddy do his makeup in Lisa the Painful) Had no one found out about Buddy, she would have eventually killed herself or Brad before Brad would have let go,

Thanks for putting your name on some of them so I know not to click

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I don't blame Brad for being overprotective with Buddy, considering the world he lived in.

If by they, you mean the general population of Olathe, then no. But most of them are just concerned with getting their rocks off. Rando didn't say anything about having her repopulate right away. If Buddy didn't go crazy in Joyful, he probably would have had her hide with the Pacifists or some other safe spot until she was a little older.

Buddy said that Sticky never touched her though, and she doesn't seem like the kind of person who would lie to protect the image of another person.

Brad's real feelings come though in his hallucinations and during his final hours of humanity. His memories are only of Lisa. When he makes his last stand, he screams for Lisa. When he is freshly mutated, he looks at Buddy and sees Lisa.

>But I also like to think that Yado and Buzzo planned for Buddy to be introduced into the world, and that if nothing happened and Brad kept Buddy hidden, Buzzo would've done something, partly to accomplish their plan and partly to make Brad suffer.

I think one of the endings in Joyful confirms this.

lisa-rpg.wikia.com/wiki/Ending_(Joyful)#NORMAL_EPILOGUE

Yado: Don't be stupid... I created this world, and I will rule it. Alone. She'll spark a war... And anyone left alive will be sorted out by my children. Including her. It's perfect...

She has a kid no matter what if she takes the antidote.

No she wouldn't have. There was nothing to say she didn't love him. She even called him Dad in the flashbacks which he asked her not too. He was overprotective and that's about it. He didn't rape her, he didn't mistreat her (outside that weird stabby part in the beginning of the Joyful), he was nice to her and considering the world he didn't do much wrong.
He tells Buddy he loves her before he dies if I remember correctly. He did love her, I think he was just caught in between shitty moments. Maybe he cared more for Lisa, but more than wanting redemption I think he loved buddy.

And most of that obsession with Lisa was the joy rather than himself. He was more concerned with Buddy pre-overdose. He only becomes obsessive with Lisa after he starts turning mutant.

Taken from the LISA Wiki
>Additionally, depending on whether or not Buddy chose to keep Rando from falling when Bolo attacks her, she can be seen holding a child in her hand, who appears to be the same child shown in the Inoculated Ending.

Buddy only has a kid in the Mutated ending if you choose to let Rando go. Because of that, I've always assumed that the kid is either the son of the Rando grunt that raped her while she was asleep or that she fucked Mutant Brad at some point.

She never got sexed in game did she? I thought she stabbed the Rando grunt

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You're welcome.

>tfw when one of the best songs in Joyful is cut short because you deal too much damage

Outside that weird stabby part? You mean when he forces her to murder a man and says that he will bring more men for her to murder than aren't tied up so that it will be even harder to kill them? Here's what we know that Brad did for buddy: He dug a hole, he quit using joy for about a day, he let her paint his face, he fed her. Anything else is speculation. He was a shitty dad just like his own dad from the moment he dropped her. He was an ok dad to rando for a bit though.

>mfw attempting the final fight of Joyful without using Joy

I genuinely believed up until that point of the game that not using Joy would give me a different ending.

Ya, you are right. Protecting her from rapists and giving her a family was wrong.
Okay the murder part was wrong, but I assume they were cock weasels and deserved it. Either way it saved Buddy in the Painful so

Convince me to finish this drawing.
Please.

Unless her hallucination at the end of the game gave her a Oedipus complex and she fucked Brad, the only other possible canidate is the Rando grunt that raped her in the beginning of the game.

Could be left as is but I am a pleb non-artist.

That's actually really good
Keep it up

It's possible she just had a kid with someone after the events of the game. There are still plenty of guys left in western Olathe and plenty of mutants just laying around.

Is there a track in gameing that captures the spirit of It's game better then Summer Love does? Also will we ever get another game from Dingaling?
youtu.be/L5HKVNo9bSs

I think she came to realize she cared for Brad more than she wanted to admit, but I hope she didn't fuck him.
This is more realistic. I like to think that's just a place she visits sometimes to get away from it. Also she was confirmed prepubescent at the time so she couldn't have had a kid with rando grunt.

Ninja Tears is a game he's working on. Odd art style though.

Makes sense. It's possible that she did it with one of the very few non-Mutants in the world, or even a pacified Mutant. It's probably for the best we never find out, honestly.

What's the status on that game? All I know about it is that racism will be one of the key themes.

There were a decent amount of people she didn't murder still in western Olathe.

If I recall correctly Ninja Tears is about an assassin who wants to reconnect with his family.

might be wrong though

He was clearly too good for this world

The ending scene to the painful really sealed the deal for me. He really did love Buddy, and Buddy (while rebellious) loved him.
They could have been happy if Sticky, Yado, and Buzzo weren't dicks.

You do know that the human race emerged from just two people? Adam and Eve.