I think I realized why I hate Dark Souls 3, and that's because it's completely creatively bankrupt. It doesn't a single original concept to its name and just feels like gigantic rehash of things we've seen multiple times before.
Setting? Stale and already fully explored. Lore? Does not exist. Combat? Copy-pasted from previous titles and glued together into one unholy abomination, even when it clearly doesn't work. Level-design? Literally re-hash: the game. Most of the game is: "Hey guys, remember this area/item from Demons/Dark/Bloodborne? Yes, us too. Us gamers man, us gamers!"
I think if anyone actually likes Dark Souls 3, they literally have no soul.
Haven't played it but you're probably wrong. It's probably a fine little game.
Logan Jackson
It was boring and forgettable. Nobody cares about it anymore.
Jackson Phillips
Probably. I mean, weren't they basically obligated to make it because of Bamco?
Ayden Lee
>Most of the game is: "Hey guys, remember this area/item from Demons/Dark/Bloodborne? Yes, us too. Us gamers man, us gamers!"
you sound like an incredibly boring person
Chase Long
kill yourself fromdrone
Joseph Carter
>menawhile, one of the complaints about 2 was that it had fuckall to do with 1
Jayden Watson
Sorry for having some standards. To me, finding the Storm Ruler in DaS3 was one of the most egregious experiences I've had in a video game. Not only is does it function in a completely different way from the original (which ruins nostalgia and usability), it has negative lore value because it makes no fucking sense.
So why the hell is it there? It's not nostalgic, fun, logical, functional, or lore-contributing. It has no reason to exist. It being there is a net negative effect on the game, simply because the devs wanted to go "hey guys, remember this?"
DaS3 is full of shit like this and it drove me insane.
Carter Thomas
>DUDE WHAT IF WE COPIED BOLETARIAN PALACE AND MADE THE LAST GUY LIVE IN IT?
Elijah Gutierrez
The problem is it didn't secretly integrate giant robots with swords half way through the game like Bloodborne did with all the Lovecraftian stuff.
It would have really taken people for a loop and it's secret twists like that which make games fun. Imagine if half way through you came across a giant robot knight and then you get in it and suddenly the whole game changes. People would be shitting bricks about how crazy it was for years to come.
Leo Turner
>yhorm was literally deleted from the game I'm still mad.
Lincoln White
Its literally ok when miyazaki does it.
William James
Bloodborne set the bar too high
Joseph Rodriguez
There is such a thing as going to far in either direction. Looking back on DS2 I realize I had more fun with it because pvp wasn't complete ass from day one. It had its issues but I could at least play any build I wanted to in both pvp and pve.
Aaron Reyes
II was better IIIfags are faggots Onefags are the worst
Michael Ortiz
Dark Souls 3 has a lot of assets reused from previous games + Bloodborne. I'm fairly sure Dark Souls 3 also is heavily compared to the previous titles excelling in one way or another while DaS3 plays it too safe and is more or less a jack of all trades for the series while not having enough highs to compensate for it.
Demon's Souls nailed atmosphere, hub area, and npcs. Dark Souls had the best enemy/environment variety along with world design. Dark Souls 2 had the best cosmetic variety along with character build options and most fleshed out covenants. Bloodborne has the best combat, unique playstyles per weapon, and best PvE with great atmosphere. Dark Souls 3 has nothing that makes it stand out compared to the others.
Luke Thompson
Well, Dark Souls 3 does have a solid boss roaster. That's one thing that it does right.
Dylan Ross
First 2/3rds of the game I'd disagree. Last handful are actually good. Notable exception to early game are the Farron dudes. Everything else is a gimmick fight, Deacons, Wolnier, so on so forth.
Parker Jackson
I'm still disappointed 3 opted for specific dual wield weapons rather than 2's power stances where you could mix and match basically anything.
Still feels like a major step back and that was pretty much the only thing Dark Souls 2 did right beside allowing respecs without having to get soul sucked for every point.
Sebastian Flores
At least the core gameplay didn't make me puke, as opposed to DS2
Aaron Morales
I find it funny people complain about a game that has a plot that is literally "all the people from the previous eras are gone and only a select few are good enough to be reborn to do the task that no one wants to do because its been done 1000 times lets just move on"
its like theyre saying "yea thanks for sticking with us the entire time guys most people left because they got tired of playing the same shit so much so if your still here just finish this please"
along with all the inverse shit like descending from the castle instead of going up to it etc and mixing up stuff from previous games with new twists I think DS3 will be the MGS2 of the series in the future. If only poise wasnt so fucked it makes me so pissed
Ethan Smith
I agree, and it was even worse in 2
Josiah Martin
I stopped playing at lothric castle cause I got so fucking bored of the game.
I even managed DaS2 and all the DLC fuck man, DaS3 had nothing worth while
Liam Reyes
>Dark Souls 2 > most fleshed out covenants I never understood this meme
Brandon Wood
These threads attract Dark Souls 2 apologists.
Michael Phillips
>ds2 >bad gameplay
Can we stop this meme? Best build variety, weapons, movesets and stamina management somehow is a bad thing?
Juan Thomas
90% of DS1's covenants didn't work
DS2's matchmaking and covenants all functioned correctly from day one
DS3's are 4 different blues and le crazy reds and purples.
Matthew Barnes
Dark Souls 1 and 3 have literally broken covenants. 2 has more covenant options along with a covenant that even improves your PvE challenge experience. Bloodborne's covenants feel tacked on mostly.
Easton Williams
these threads are made by and for dark souls 2 apologists. They are for the minority to scream about how their favorite game in the series happens to also be the black sheep, and this makes them unique and enlightened.
Joseph Harris
Why are Dark Souls 2 apologists so vocal yet any time there is a poll they are by far the smallest minority?
Even the "Demon's Souls is the best game ever Dark Souls is shit" fags are more numerous than Dark Souls 2 apologists.
Jace Carter
DS2 isn't the best in the series but its better than 3. Screaming apologist at people who throw criticism at DS3 just makes you look like an ass.
Jackson Thomas
3 had the most polished mechanics, the highest number of quality bosses and arguably the nicest looking areas.
Isaac Gray
I never understood what tokens did in ds2. did you give them to anyone? did they unlock anything? the rat covenant was a time waster that wasn't implemented properly. Bell covenant was fun as fuck I agree, too bad it was off the beaten path.
Andrew Smith
>I stopped playing at lothric castle cause I got so fucking bored of the game Wow, that's actually the exact same spot I stopped at.
It's funny, since DaS3 from a mechanical standpoint is decent. Everything works fairly well, but it's so damn dull and soul-less. I had to ask myself: "why am I still going forward? Do I even care about any of these enemies/bosses/items? Is there any story or lore I will gain if I continue?", and once I realized the answer was no, I had no reason to proceed.
Nathaniel Thomas
is "creatively bankrupt" the epic new buzzword to spam to appear to know what you're talking about? isn't "X design" not cool anymore?
Ryder Lewis
>nicest looking areas I'd give that to bloodborne.
Obviously Dark Souls 2 is the worst there really isn't much debating that end of it.
Leo Stewart
>Can we stop this meme? Best build variety, weapons, movesets and stamina management somehow is a bad thing? no
it's everything else that sucks
although I'd disagree on the stamina management
Ian Myers
In DS2 you could dress up as a moth and use the poison whip to act as the moth's proboscis this is my fetish
Austin Murphy
All they had to do was make invasions like dark souls 1 and all could be forgiven. As it stands now, invasions are worthless(shit rewards), ganking is a 100% guarantee, and fuck I miss poise making heavy armor useful :(
William James
being so defensive makes you look like an ass and a fag lol
Cooper Rogers
haha yeah dude i watched that bunnyhop video too
Evan Smith
>most polished mechanics Fucked up poise, removed dual wielding/stances, went back on their word for weapon artes when they first revealed DaS3. >highest number of quality bosses Debatable >arguably the nicest looking areas DaS2 and Bloodborne are better in this aspect imo.
Liam Morris
I'd put them both at a tie with each other.
Bloodborne pulled off the dark and creepy atmosphere a lot better but DaS3 was better in sheer prettiness and variety.
Jayden Williams
the variety of equipment looks nice (even though the areas don't) but it's playing the game that's awful
Kayden Williams
% of DS1's covenants didn't work >1/9 covenants didn't work >90% Wat?
Bentley Bennett
>haha yeah dude i watched that bunnyhop video too What? I don't recall SBH making a Dark Souls 3 video.
Josiah Reyes
For me I think it was the combination of yet another brown/grey castle with recycled enemies with buffed HP and damage that made me just give up on it. The recycled EVERYTHING in DaS3 was so appauling, and even STILL you had areas like propane capital that just werent finished, truely fucking dull.
Jaxson Kelly
>ds2 >nice looking areas are you fucking serious? irregardless of how much you like the game, the graphics are garbage and every area is painful to look at as a result
Jackson Carter
It's true. Dark Souls 2 just feels like a much fresher game, filled with content, diverging paths, interesting boss fights and PvP that isn't complete ass.
Carson Reyes
Pretty much this.
Bosses were good in the later half of the game, but the beginning with all the swamps and shit puts me off wanting to start over on NG+.
Dark Souls 3 stuck me as From's "Greatest Hits" of Dark Souls. It's well rounded and probably the most consistent game out of all of them, meaning that it doesn't dip as low as the others might, but it also doesn't have the ambition necessary to reach as high.
By the end of DaS3 I just wanted to replay DaS1 and DaS2. I guess in that regard it was successful.
Cameron Thompson
>irregardless
Christopher James
Dark Souls 2 looked like ass, the entire game felt like claymation
Hudson Young
Only started playing Demon Souls. Is Bloodborne considered to be the best of the souls series?
Juan Long
lol in his evolution of soulsborne level design video
Samuel Wilson
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Adrian Lewis
>Is Bloodborne considered to be the best of the souls series? I'd say yes. It's basically the final extension of what the gameplay of the series headed towards, and has by far the most interesting and unique setting out of all of them.
Grayson Martinez
that's why 3 is the best, because it's an amalgamation of all great things from the previous titles rolled into one
Jaxon Kelly
It's true user. I bought this game at release, full price, and it's the first game I bought Day 1 since I built my PC december last year, so I was pretty hyped. It felt bland. Like FROM didn't want to do this game, but they were contractually obliged to do it.
I liked it a lot, but it didn't felt as good as the other games.
Josiah Jackson
Yes but only by people who have actually played it
Jordan Ward
no, it has almost 0 replayability and build variety
Gabriel Foster
Feel free to retract your statements now.
Dark Souls 2 is GOAT when it comes to area design.
Mason Kelly
bait/10
Ian Powell
people tend to either love it and say it's the best, or shit on it because it's the lowest on content or, some would say, the easiest. i've only played it and i'm like 1/3 of the way through DS2 and so far i'm giving it to bloodborne easily. the ridiculous clunkiness and dull and depressing slogs of levels just drag the whole thing down too far for me.
Cameron Lee
Fromsofts next game right here perfect. Its just darksouls with escaflowne biopunk robots in it. Starts off high fantasy as fuck but then before you know it you are a cyberelf in a guymelofe fighting a dragon that was only half roboticized and also a chimera.
The equipment includes weaponized tobbaco pipes, beetle horn katar, shark jaws, and like a vacuum cleaner thing than can bring enemies closer but really designed for pvp suck a fool back when they roll away.
Joseph Harris
The problem is the sickdark shit got fucking old, no one cares about that anymore
miyazaki needs to make a souls 4 and make it cyberpunk
Owen Ortiz
Yeah you are pretty spot on. I can't be bothered playing the DLC. Even though I bought the cuck pass. How many dlcs will there be.
Jacob Cook
This makes me claw my face and make me curl up and cry.
WHAT IS THAT MAGIC GREEN-ROCK MATERIAL SUPPOSED TO BE WHY IS EVERYTHING COVERED IN IT
Colton Mitchell
even fucking undead burg is better than that shit
Joseph Torres
>How many dlcs will there be. 2
Aiden Lewis
One area and 3's version looks way better.
The best looking place in the game is that one dragon memory with nothing in it you can go to.
John Evans
and hell, this is one of the better ones. fuck lost bastille, and fucking sinners rise and belfry luna, just call them what they are. it's literally all just the lost bastille.
Michael Anderson
Can't be arsed man.
Josiah Russell
nigger please that looks like a sandcastle
Asher Flores
>severe tiling
Caleb Hill
Ds2 covenants just feel too pointless. The rat covenant feels unfinished and is really only bait for first-time players who don't know any better. The bell covenant is a fun forest-covenant ripoff but all you really get are titanite chunks I don't really see the point in the tokens because all they really do is allow for sparring/duels, and I don't even think the tokens of spite can be used up. In DS1 you wanted humanity to level up your covenant and get equipment/open up that pathway in lost izalith so you had an actual goal.
Ian Foster
>nigger
Can we not?
Christopher Hall
>DaS2 is shit! It's too different from DaS! >DaS3 is shit! It's the same as DaS!
DaS3 is the best Souls game, and DaSbabies are pathetic.
Carson Smith
cmon my nig dont be like that.
Anthony Garcia
apparently both of them combined are as big as artorias of the abyss/old hunters
Adam Nelson
It's fun, definitely miles above most games this year. Definitely feels a bit tired so I'm glad they ended the series with this.
Plus DLC hype, even DS2 (which I still think is the weakest one) had the ivory king.
Jacob Sullivan
Time for some hot opinions
DaS => DeS > BB > DaS3 > DaS2
I enjoy them all, even 2.
Joshua Cook
Ok, we'll just use porch monkey then.
Caleb Morris
I started playing Dark Souls for the first time. I beat the Asylum Demon on my first try (with normal weapon) and Taurus on 2nd try. How well I'm doing?
Eli Peterson
that looks not too good honestly, even ignoring the laughably impossible surrounding geography. Anal Rondo even looked better.
Isn't that even a promo shot you're posting?
Gavin Myers
you don't have to play the game then, since it doesn't meet your "standards"
Maybe you've just forgotten how to have fun in video games?
Luke Jackson
>that cliff texture
Hunter Thomas
they definitely have a fantastic track record when it comes to DLC, should set the bar other AAA games
Carson Turner
Team B should be gassed, holy shit
Cooper Wood
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Hunter Perez
jesus and what's with the hairline
Eli Sanders
STOP PLEASE
Blake Diaz
After trudging through shitty swamps and catacombs I was pretty excited to see that the next area was visually interesting.
And then it was linear and short as fuck before going back into sewers and dungeons.
Chase Collins
Now I am both intrigued and annoyed. I am kind of done with souls. May as well give it a bash though.
Thomas Ross
she's wearing a hood
Brayden Cooper
Out of context this looks like a Bloodborne screenshot.
Justin Bell
excuse my poor eyesight wow
Elijah Lopez
if you have a character who beat the game and didn't start NG+ could probably just use him for it instead of starting over
Kevin White
Let's not forget this beauty.
Christopher Turner
It's fine as a game as in it's functional. Pretty mediocre and definitely worse than dark souls 1
Jose Edwards
he's right though
Isaac Ortiz
Yeah I do. He is super jacked. Butcher knife and dragon slayer great shield. And Pope robes because armour is useless since there is no poise.
Aaron Morris
THAT CANT BE REAL
Daniel Gray
>new dlc adds chalice dungeon equivalent Does this fix Dark Souls 3?
Henry Morgan
there actually is pose but it's super convoluted and kinda useless darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/poise basically it's only turned on during hyperarmor attacks and dictates how many extra hits you can take before getting knocked out of them
Grayson Wright
I thought it was better than DaS1 and definitely DaS2.
But yeah the major flaw was that it was a direct sequel. Spiritual sequel would've been better.
Gabriel Ross
I'm saving my claymore heavy knight for the dlc I'm not sure if invaders were fucking stupid when the game released or if the claymore is overpowered but I tore through everyone who invaded me with that thing
Thomas Long
If we could have a constant drip feed of new dungeons for a while I'd dig it
Bentley Garcia
>every area is painful to look at except for heides tower, dragon aerie, drangleic castle, brightstone cove, brume tower, eleyum loyce, shulva, no mans warf, the lost bastille and the forest of fallen giants.
Cooper Peterson
>it's another "Dark Souls 2 fans start a DaS3 hate thread with stale memes and half-truths to make their favorite game look better" thread why are DaS2 fans so fucking obnoxious?
Brandon Campbell
Go over there and check.
I thought it was a PC only problem at first but then I loaded up my PS3 copy and realized it had always been there.
Henry Jenkins
Are you serious? Forest of fallen giants looks like fucking garbage.
Don't make somebody post the fire lizard comparison
Wyatt Thompson
I've gotten to this area but I can't find the doll, also pretty impressed when I saw it, best aesthetics in the game so far.
Ethan Walker
>blood gems equivalent in DaS3 clusterfucking it's PvP even more Please no
Colton Morales
Because they are mobafags.
Cooper Garcia
Because they are right.
Elijah Nelson
because there is actually only like 8 of them and they need to make it seem like more
Logan Martinez
>I can't find the doll explore the Cathedral of the Deep and kill the boss there
if you can't find that, explore Crucifixion Woods more thoroughly. There are two bosses there, the Abyss Watchers and another one
Samuel Wright
>DaS2 apologists will defend this
Levi Cooper
literally who cares about graphics?
Gavin Morris
People don't play DaS2 for the graphics, they play it for the well tuned PvP and PvE ;^)
Robert Cruz
Wat.
Carter Wilson
Every fanbase for every game is slightly different because from changed focus
DaS1 has a focus on level design and interconnectivity so it appeals to Metroidvania fags. DaS2 has a focus on online interactions like PvP so it appeals to mobafags DaS3 and BB really have a focus on the action combat. So they appeal to your action game fags. Think platinumfags a little.
Now imagine a thread with metroidvania, moba and platinumfags all in one thread arguing about which genre is best. Of course nobody is going to get along with the other groups. because we all think all souls games are the same games with the same goals and should all try the same things.
And mobafags are the worst so they are the most annoying.
Jacob Gonzalez
Okay I played Demon's and DaS3. What was wrong with that shit?
Why are gargoyles in das1 fine but this shit isn't? Maneaters to gargoyles is a lot closer of a ripoff than Storm King -> Yhorm
I get being pissed over the fanservice reverences to shit like solaire but this? This is nothing.
Gabriel Taylor
>people say that DaS2 had good pvp >when reds couldn't get whole eyes and had to farm for them >when invasions were heavily skewed towards fighting ganks like in DaS3 >when invaders couldn't interact with the hosts' environment, and thus could easily be blocked by terrain from getting to them >when there was a 10 minute invasion timer >when blues literally didn't work >when Rats were depopulated and everyone hated them >when Belltowers were among the smallest zones in the whole game and were piss easy to walk through before any invaders arrived I'm convinced that the only people who say DaS2 had a good pvp system are arenafriends who should uninstall every souls game in the series from their hard drives
Aiden Collins
I haven't found the cathedral of the deep yet, is it near the demon ruins? Also I've explored crucifixion woods throughly and killed both the bosses.
Evan Roberts
it's past the Crystal Sage arena, go look around there more closely, it's not a dead end
Andrew Brooks
Not to mention the tokens are next to useless. What's the point of even going online?
Carson Thomas
Started up the game and saw it as I was getting up from the bonfire, I feel kinda stupid now for not noticing it.
Jason Gray
DS2 uses a lot of shortcuts in any area the player isn't going to be looking on the most linear path possible.
It's like the developers never expected anyone to turn around while playing the game. On one hand it is saving some performance by not filling out unnecessary areas with tons of detail but on the other hand it makes for some very shitty vistas and some very ugly backfacing walls.
Dominic Thompson
Honestly I think Bamco is just rushing From
DaS1 is half finished DaS2 isn't polished And DaS3 is short.
It feels like they were slowly learning how to deal with Bamco.
David Robinson
I think they were expecting people to not turn around. I was playing last night and I never realized that after the crashing the Skeleton party in the huntsmans copse you aren't allowed to go back over the bridge you open. An invisible wall forms behind you.
Luke Morgan
DaS2 was super rushed because they scrapped basically everything they were working on when they switched directors, but bamco didn't give them extra time to make up for it, so they just kind of stitched together whatever they could from the assets they already had
Julian Powell
>DaS3 is short. Wat? I mean it's the longest base game we've got out of the series so far.
Sure it's no DS2 with all the DLC but neither was DS2 before all it's DLC.
James Williams
Maybe I am comparing it to the other games + dlc
Should've written "Dark Souls 3 is linear" you are right.
Point is that I feel like Bamco is not a good publisher for them.
Logan Perez
>Why are gargoyles in das1 fine but this shit isn't? You'd have a point of DaS1 called them Maneaters instead of an original title, but it didn't.
that's the damn point. DaS3 doesn't have a generic wind sword, it has the Storm Ruler. That has way more implications and problems than using an original alternatives, which the rest of the series besides DaS3 does.
Asher Ortiz
I think it's because everyone is used to the formula by now so there is no getting used to the mechanics anymore. Christ I remember my first souls game taking like 60+ hours for one run.
Wyatt Price
>FROM will never go back to leveling up at bonfires and no quicktravel until it's deemed appropriate from a gameplay standpoint
Anthony Hall
Why are so many people upset that Miyazaki treated Dark Souls 3 like a sequel instead of a vaguely related spin off?
You didn't see dark souls 1 sequel material in bloodborne, you saw it in Dark Souls 3. Revisiting anor londo isnt rehashing because it's a fucking sequel
Brandon Stewart
so Storm Ruler is a problem but Patches and the MLGS aren't?
Oliver Lewis
Most have been pretty linear beside the first half of Dark Souls and Demon's Souls after Dragon God.
Souls has been more closed than it's been open.
Gabriel Kelly
DaS1 had patches and the moonlight sword then.
Its a different universe. It is the same stormruler in the same way patches is the same patches.
Also I care WAY MORE about gameplay than lore. Yhorm > Storm Ruler Maneaters > Gargoyles
DaS3 was a step up. DaS1 was a step down.
Jonathan Wood
at least 3 handled the sunlight covenant better than 2 (or even 1)
Henry Nelson
Not to mention Seathe and Kalameet are from fucking Kings field
Adrian Parker
Funny that you mention the only two universal FromSoft references that existed before even Demons Souls.
Leo Morris
King's Passage is probably B Team's Magnum Opus.
Misplaced columns, dark voids on the side, misaligned textures, huge gaps in the level geometry rain that cuts off halfway downwards and the cherry on top of the shitcake: lightning that casts a shadow of the level onto the nearby mountains. It takes a special kind of incompetence for something like that.
Jayden Morales
There's more than 2 reoccurring you dumb ass slut.
Levi Ward
l) I have no more (you)s to give today OP. I have reached my daily limit.
Owen Allen
So why can't they add more?
I mean the praise the sun gesture was in demon's and then was in Dark Souls. Was that also in other fromsoft games?
Michael Martinez
This is why I'm glad they're making a new IP. Their original ideas are always the best.
Juan Hernandez
And who could forget the Chosen Undead's poop jar from Dark Souls 1 that they copypasted all over the Firekeeper's home but forgot to take out the shit.
Carson Price
That ground looks like the one from the first dark souls in the starting zones
Lucas Thompson
That would require a well designed map with multiple paths to open and a good sense of pacing.
Jonathan Lopez
i said this several times
Dark souls 1 = original star wars trilogy >the masterpiece Dark souls 2 = the prequels >clumsy storytelling, ful of mistakes, hated by the fans, but at the same time bold, innovative in certain aspects, expands the universe, builds up on certain aspects of the first one while having its own flawed identity dark souls 3 = awakening of the force >HEY REMEMBER HOW COOL WAS THAT FIRST GAME? HERE IT IS AGAIN WITH BETTER GRAPHICS, ALSO HERE HAVE ANOTHER BLINK/REFERENCE TO THE ORIGINAL ;>
Carter Bailey
Oh, and remember the elevator in Undead Parish with the chains that go into the sky?
Same thing in DS2.
Benjamin Lewis
>there are jars of shit all over the firekeeper hut are you serious right now I didn't even know CU had one
Jackson Taylor
Why do we need these poor bait threads?
Connor Wright
and every time you don't realize how much people hate you and think you are a sperg.
DaS1 is not as good as the original star wars trilogy. If anything Demon's is the original star wars and dark souls is the prequels. It is even a trilogy. And BB is empire.
Hudson Reed
Where do you find the poop jar in the first game?
Jose Carter
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Nicholas Adams
More people played Dark Souls than Demon's Souls. Dark Souls is the one that most players remember.
Josiah Martinez
I don't have time for plebs and neither should you.
Anthony Collins
In the trailers, Yhorm was supposed to be massive. There's a clip where you're running on a bridge and Yhorm tries to hit you as he stands next to the bridge.
It was a little outrageous but would've been awesome, IMO.
Sebastian Price
Go compare the amount of fan art for Solaire against the fan art for every character in Demon's Souls combined.
Demon's Souls wasn't the famous one. Dark Souls was.
Brayden Taylor
DeS = A New Hope DaS1 = Empire Strikes Back Bloodborne = Return of the Jedi DaS2 = Phantom Menace DaS3 = Force Awakens
Easton Robinson
Demon's is THX 1138
Brayden Hill
And who gives a fuck about that? I thought we were talking about quality.
Carter Walker
>Yhorm was supposed to be the Dragon God >awesome yeah, no
Carson Hernandez
post that video, if you're so great I think it would have been cooler if you fought him with the stormruler in that situation rather than a big room
Benjamin Sanchez
DeS = Flash Gordon DaS1 = New Hope BB = Empire DaS2 = any prequel DaS3 = Force Awakens
FTFY
Christian Thompson
DaS1 = Raiders of the Lost Ark
DaS2 = Temple of Doom
DaS3 = The Last Crusade
Xavier Jenkins
The DaS3 fanboy brigade appeared.
Grayson Torres
Dark souls 3 isn't any worse than DS1 or 2, we're just sick of the same old shit.
They need to keep making spinoffs like Bloodborne, I don't want Dark Souls 4 unless they seriously spice it up
Oliver Walker
I think comparing 3 to VII is fair, both of them had a good amount of fan backlash but were generally well recieved
Benjamin Baker
Are you implying force awakens was good?
I thought it was a pretty apt comparison.
James Hernandez
To most players, Dark Souls is the original. It's what they compare to everything else.
Thus, the original Star Wars trilogy comparison.
Alexander Rodriguez
DaS3 and BB are the prequels trilogy.
Angel Hughes
>>>reddit.com/r/darksoul2
Christian Flores
but das2 and das3 were played more than das1.
Brody Cooper
BB seems more like it would be the clone wars series to me.
Zachary Nguyen
>>/t/umblr
Parker Moore
>2 games are a trilogy fucking idiot
Chase Thompson
>Calling it Force Awakens is a good thing Force Awakens is literally just a rehash of New Hope with different characters
Brayden Diaz
Force Awakens was bad. But not bad enough to compare to DaS3. DaS3 and BB are the prequels.
Julian Brown
PCuck on suicide watch
Alexander Price
>There's a clip where you're running on a bridge and Yhorm tries to hit you as he stands next to the bridge. You're fucking retarded. That's the giant in Irithyll Dungeon trying to hit you as you go to the rats.
Cameron Perry
>into the sky that's the elevator that leads to iron keep, dummy
Ayden Garcia
DaS3 is actual proof that PCucks wouldn't like BB even if they had access to it.
DaS3 was essentially BB with a Dark Souls skin and EVERYONE hated it. Now sonyggers you could argue were sick of it because they had BB and it just wasn't anything new but PCucks hated it too so that is proof that BB is overrated by fanboys.
this is such a great situation. Usually it is hard to proof that fanboys only like a game because their mother could only buy them one console but BB is a rare case were we have proof that it is shit.
Chase Howard
BB>Das1>DeS>DaS3>DaS2 Maybe the DLC will move 3 a little upwards but this seems to be my final ranking Order I played them: 1, DeS, 2, BB, 3.
Daniel Moore
Moss, are you retarded?
Aaron Jenkins
>DaS3 was essentially BB with a Dark Souls skin and EVERYONE hated it.
just digging the hole deeper, PCuck, it's clear you haven't played it
Blake Cox
It is. I remember seeing the exact same texture in Undead Burg/Parish. It looks really out of place in DS2.
James Cooper
DaS3 is proof that BB is shit.
Don't give me this bullshit. You can actually see the assets they had leftover from BB and das3 is clearly the bb engirne.
Really think about why you hate das3 but like bb! The truth is because you have to justify an expensive brick to yourself which you had to buy to play BB.
Brandon Ramirez
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John Gonzalez
Explain why das3 is shit without also describing BB.
>its too linear >too few builds >evading is too strong >healing is too fast >pvp is shit >why is there no poise?
Now which game did I describe? BB or DaS3?
Isaiah Thompson
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Leo Walker
dull setting and lore 60% reused assets boring weapons with limited movesets slow pace of combat
You will never get Miyazakis master opus and it is tearing you apart
Ethan Butler
>dull setting and lore >60% reused assets >boring weapons with limited movesets >slow pace of combat All of that applies to BB
Limited movesets technically not but with shields and actual offhands in das3 it comes out to the same moveset amount
0/10 see me after class.
Anthony Phillips
>All of that applies to BB
Elijah Rogers
I think you're being a little harsh, OP. It's a fine game that loses a ton of points for lack of anything new or groundbreaking, but I think most people enjoyed it more than 95% of other shit that gets released. If the DLC can come out and be anything like DaS1 or 2's, than the game will come close to redeeming some of those flaws.
Colton Flores
miyazaki also made das3 and that is why everyone hates das3.
Luis Brooks
I don't get this meme about lack of creativity when From has been rehashing the same ideas and the same gameplay mechanics ever since its inception, just look at fucking Armored Core.
At least DS3 is more fun to play and feels more consistent than the previous two games. I actually enjoyed it a lot, I think it's the closest to Demon's out of the three DaS.
Kevin Butler
Enjoy your silky smooth 24fps """"""""""masterpiece""""""""""
Jaxson Allen
DeS is Hidden Fortress by Akira Kurosawa
Levi Sullivan
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Jonathan Allen
only because he was contractually obliged to make 3 games for Bamco the real masterpiece is Bloodborne, you can tell he put his efforts into it unlike rehash souls 3
Jace Walker
So DaS1 is also shit?
Aaron Hernandez
I am and it's even sweeter knowing you will never ever get to play it
Lincoln Cook
I Enjoy Darksouls 1, 2 & 3. so as 80% people who play this game in the whole world.
And theres nothing you can do about it user.
Jose Wood
Holy hell what a dank place that must be with that much moss climbing that high up the walls.
Seriously not even swamps are humid enough to have that shit up that high because that shit rots and dies.
Carson Collins
depends on the type of moss and it's not like the dark souls universe abides by the laws of our world anyway
Juan Garcia
Has the same replayability as any other souls game. Has more build variety than DaS3 because it's balanced for poise not being in the game.
Tyler Moore
it abides by the universal laws of being easier to texture everything, making it look bland and awful
Grayson Sullivan
>boring weapons with limited movesets never used the gargoyle flame spear eh
Jordan Walker
has 1/3 the moves of a typical BB weapon
Samuel Gonzalez
>DaS3 is the best souls game with less viable build variety than even Bloodborne.
Austin Sanders
op just now figured out how video games are made
Ethan Young
You're just throwing names up there to make bulk and hoping nobody realizes it. Brighstone, Lost Bastille and Forest of Fallen Giants are awful
Eli Anderson
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Henry Collins
Forest of Fallen Giants does indeed look like shit, but at least it has passable level design.
Leo Nguyen
That's Wizardry THX 1138 is King's Field
Jacob Long
I wish they'd have made just a single, good Dark Souls game. You can see the change in the covers of the games themselves and it's not for the better.
David Bell
It's no better than any level in the entire series
Caleb Allen
Fuck you, I liked it.
Your arguments are lazy too.
Noah Bell
that's because most BB weapons are just 2 weapons that you switch with l1 instead of the dpad also because of that it doesn't have nearly as many weapons as any other Souls game
Jonathan Cox
Everyone agrees that the best Soulsborne experience is had by playing the game online, but without using the PVP/PVE features yourself. Right?
Logan Howard
You described DaS3 because you can use about any weapon/build in BB and have a fun PvP experience, not true in DaS3 because it's just full of light armor straightsword master race. The only viable PvP builds in DaS3 are Bloodborne builds but there's less of them. No poise isn't even a problem in BB because everything is balanced for it. Don't hate a game just because you don't want to buy a ps4 to play it, it's just immature.
Daniel Morris
So why have I read all these complaints after BB before DaS3 was ever a thing
Check and mate sonygger.
Wyatt Nguyen
>that's because most BB weapons are just 2 weapons that you switch with l1 instead of the dpad
2x unique transformation attacks running and rolling R2s L2s for 2 handed weapons actual unique charged R2s rather than a slower version of the same attack charged R2 combos
>also because of that it doesn't have nearly as many weapons as any other Souls game
most weapons in souls are copy + paste all weapons bar saw cleaver/saw spear (share a saw form) and kirkhammer/LHB (share a straight sword) are totally unique dark souls 3 a shit
Luke Murphy
No, for my first playthrough of DaS3 I stopped at most areas to invade and get invaded with the dried finger, it took me well over 300 hours to actually finish it and it was by far the most fun I've had with a Souls game,
Charles Ross
>dark souls 3 a shit True. But so is BB.
Tyler Torres
I wasn't arguing that BB weapons have less diverse movesets. also you forgot unique backstep attacks and even without the copypaste variants Souls still have more weapons, boss weapons alone usually have pretty unique movesets
Austin Howard
subhuman ape is good for you?
Carter Hall
>boss weapons alone usually have pretty unique movesets
SOME of them have a unique (usually gimmicky) L2 weapon skill, that's it
bloodborne has much greater moveset diversity
nice try PCpony
Mason Cruz
I have a ps4.
BB a shit and i hated DaS3. They felt exactly like the same floaty shit with crazy evades and fast healing.
Chase Hill
>But what about my unspecified anecdotal complaints? Try presenting an actual opinion instead of >But some people have said it's bad
David Robinson
>implying most bb weapons don't just swing wildly when you mash r1 and do some sort of slam/stab move with r2
Jack Richardson
DaS3 a shit. DaS3 = BB
Ergo BB a shit.
Adrian Wilson
>online might as well use youtube guides while you're at it
Christian Edwards
Agree totally
Jackson Morales
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Austin Jackson
DSIII sucks because pvp was an afterthought. What's the point of the pve without a pvp endgame?
Ryder Smith
>It's shit because I say so. Can you give me some examples of why it's bad?
Isaiah Walker
DaS3 is not exclusive for any Platform.
PC gamers are consistent. They hate the games because they are both shit You hate DaS3 but like BB even thought the flaws are exactly the same.
Joseph Bennett
Except bloodborne isn't a total rehash of the previous 2 games, right down to entire levels and 60% of the armor/weapons in the game being reused
Ryan Lee
Wait you don't think DaS3 is shit?
Camden Ramirez
You "found" the Storm Ruler? He's just at the end of the map, like every other fucking boss. Also I feel bad for you.
Jaxon Cooper
>I know the exact flaws of a game I have never played in my life because I played a similar game and didn't like that one never change vee
Sebastian Walker
Here are the flaws of DaS3 Do they or do they not apply to BB.
And I fucking played BB you massive idiot.
Jeremiah Clark
Storm Ruler isn't a boss, retard.
Kayden Smith
I fucking love when people say DaS II has good aesthetics, look at this shit. >skybox is literally a single solid color >that fucking cliffiside >this is a series known for it's background scenery
Samuel Perez
I think DaS3 is shit but not BB, this guy just says Since DaS3 is shit BB is shit but they are very different games.
Easton Sanders
>And I fucking played BB you massive idiot. then why are you speaking for all PCfags who didn't
Landon Martinez
They have the same flaws.
DaS3 is at least BB lite.
So yeah. If you are rating the games then DaS3 and BB should be close to each other. The amount of spaces between them is how you can actually measure how much of a fanboy you are.
Henry Morgan
stop cherrypicking DELETE THIS
Camden Ward
>then why are you speaking for all PCfags who didn't I didn't.
Logan Stewart
>Setting? Stale and already fully explored. Subjective. I liked the setting the game took. It's intentional that its supposed to be the same area as Dark Souls 1, but far into the future so you can see the how the land was effected by time and new people. Plus the "end of the world" vibes the game gives were pretty good too. Sorry you don't feel the same way I guess. >Lore? Does not exist. There's the same amount of lore in this game as any other retard, you just have to read into it as usual. >Combat? Copy-pasted from previous titles and glued together into one unholy abomination, even when it clearly doesn't work. This is autistic. It's a souls game, it's supposed to be similar to other souls games. Not only that but it's the most refined out of all of them, and if you'd have to be dumb to argue that. It's not "glued together" combat from souls 1-bb, that's completely ignorant. >Level-design? Literally re-hash: the game. Most of the game is: "Hey guys, remember this area/item from Demons/Dark/Bloodborne? Yes, us too. Us gamers man, us gamers!" Again, intentional, and not even to make a quick buck off reused assets. If you missed the point of having locations from Souls 1 in the game then I feel sorry. Not for you, for the developers for having their games played by simpletons like you. Besides Anor Londo's castle, literally nothing else in the game uses anything from dark souls 1 location wise. >I think if anyone actually likes Dark Souls 3, they literally have no soul. Good argument, mate
Zachary Howard
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Chase Johnson
>PC gamers are consistent. They hate the games because they are both shit
Logan Perez
Yes and?
Were in that did I say "PC only"?
Chase Jackson
good meme 3's flaws are the utter lack of any originality, feeling of playing a slow DaS character against BB enemies, bosses that die in 5 hits until Irithyll, and extreme linearity
none are present in BB, it's even a hell of a lot less linear than 3 with 40% of the areas being optional
Benjamin Thomas
2nd trip
Nolan Smith
>It's too linear Sure, Bloodborne is linear, but not linear like DaS3 >Too Few Builds Bloodborne has less builds than DaS3, but most of the builds in DaS3 are shit, especially concerning PvP. Wearing any heavy armor is just gimping yourself. In BB you can use about any weapon for PvP and PvE effectively. >Evading is too strong I don't even understand this. Every character has the same dodge, so you're on even grounds with the opposing player. If you're shit at the game when you have the same dodge then that's your fault. >Healing is too fast You can parry heals dude, git gud. >PvP is shit Only in DaS3, where you have to do a Bloodborne build to be on even footing with other players because heavy armor just gimps you. Less viable builds than Bloodborne >Why is there no poise? In BB there isn't heavy armor that slows you down in exchange for poise, in DaS3 there is, but poise is useless in that game.
Josiah Lewis
it was implied with >DaS3 is not exclusive for any Platform. why would you feel the need to mention that otherwise, since anyone who can play BB can play DaS3
Levi Rodriguez
>the utter lack of any originality Definitely applies to BB. >feeling of playing a slow DaS character against BB enemies, But it is literally the BB engine. You are playing a fast BB character against BB enemies. Some of them literally leftover assets. >extreme linearity Oh yeah that sure didn't apply to fucking BB.
Cameron Gutierrez
Yes it's kinda repetitive.
It's not hateful but it is the most stale of them. Unless you're VERY into that gray grim kind of setting without variations, DaS3 won't appeal to you.
DaS2 had many themes as DaS1 had. The scenarios were clearly different from each other.
Brandon Thomas
>BB >no originality
stopped reading there
Jace Allen
>it's another DS2 cuck thread episode
Do we have to do this every day?
Owen Hill
>this literally never happened
Jonathan Ross
>It is literally BB Engine, you are a BB player >I didn't miss out on anything guys, I'm playing DaS3 which is the same as BB Lmao
Isaac Young
That is the reason people can be objective.
Let me explain it again because you are really slow
DaS3 and BB are essentially the same game
But sonygger love BB and EVERYONE hates DaS3.
Why is that?
Because everyone can be objective with DaS3 but with BB you faggots can't.
I wish I missed out on DaS3 and BB.
Parker Brown
Hhahahaha, retarded niggers can't stand top quality games.
The only reason Dark Souls 3 is hated is because it punishes shitters (all games that take skill are hated on Cred Forums, LoL, DoTa2, SC2, CS:GO etc).
Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne are the only souls games that take skill, because there is no poise and no heavy armor easy mode for brain dead low IQ snail reaction shitters to feel like they "got gud". Fuck off with your cancer immortality easy mode blocks/shields, fuck off with your cancer poise.
Bloodborne > Dark Souls 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dark Souls > Demon's Souls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dark Souls 2.
Fast gameplay is superior to your cancer slow gameplay.
Dark Souls 3 did everything better than Dark Souls 1 except interconnectivity of the world, but I'll gladly trade that for superior individual level design, superior bosses and atmosphere. As for Dark Souls 2, the only thing it has better than Dark Souls 3 is the PvP, which will get changed with the re-balance of Ashes of Ariendal and the PvP Arena.
Stay clueless cancer Cred Forumsirgin shitters.
Bentley Adams
>EVERYONE hates DS3
Nah fuck off.
Juan Thomas
I've been reading the thread and I have to ask, why do you guys say Dark Souls is worse than Demon's? I played both and I found them to be a really fun and enjoyable experience
Jonathan Hughes
Everyone with a brain then.
Henry Rodriguez
Dark Souls 3 is the first game in the series with a difficulty curve that makes sense. It goes pretty neatly from easier to harder content
Brody Howard
>Everyone who enjoys DS2 then
FTFY
Benjamin Nelson
1=3>2 imo
Ayden Smith
except that the controls are terrible. Analog movement is fucked, animations are literally mocapped so it's hard to tell when an attack is coming, and the shitty sound design ruins some weapons like halberds.
Brayden Hill
DS3 had the best bosses and the best mechanics. Not even debatable.
Aaron Hall
So we are in agreement
DaS2 was good. DaS3 and BB were absolute dogshit.
Evan Stewart
Dark Souls has really shitty and plain unfinished levels, where Demon's Souls is at least decent all the way through. This is why I think Dark Souls 3 is the best in the series, it's by far the most consistent
Juan Ross
user, there are more dual weapons in DaS3 than there are power stance movesets in DaS2. Sure, there's superficially more variety in DaS2 but DaS3's specifically-designed dual weapons are much more interesting.
Jack Fisher
Kill yourself for your uninformed and shit opinions bub
Eli King
BB > DeS = DaS > DaS3 >>> LotF >>> DaS2
Kayden Kelly
Fine. Google. Are you happy Cred Forums? We're using your epic maymay.
Tyler Cruz
/our/ guy already had the objective rankings
Oliver Jackson
>Bating this much with your contrarian opinion. Lmao
Blake Morris
Who is that? Because I sort of agree.
Angel Robinson
>DaS2 was good
Stopped right there.
We know where to put your garbage ass opinion. There's a reason even Cred Forums doesn't like that literal pile of shit.
Charles Richardson
>Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne are the only souls games that take skill, because there is no poise and no heavy armor easy mode for brain dead low IQ snail reaction shitters to feel like they "got gud". Demon's Souls doesn't have poise either.
Nathaniel Cooper
>DaS3 and BB are essentially the same game but that's entirely false > EVERYONE hates DaS3. that's also false, I like DaS3 how does something not being exclusive beget objectivity? try again.
Colton Wright
Das=BB>DS3>DeS>SoTFS>DS2 Fixed that for ya bub
Blake Scott
It was a fun game, but I agree that it didn't exactly bring much new to the table. I enjoyed it for what it was, a rehash of a series I like. Nothing more, nothing less.
Kayden Cook
UNRELATED but will I do more damage with a refined weapon at 40 str 40 dex compared to a heavy weapon at 40-50 str?
Leo Scott
>Literally who rates DaS3 above DeS and DaS Cmon dude why you bating?
Wyatt Sanders
>There's a reason even Cred Forums doesn't like that literal pile of shit. It gets more love than the actual pile of shit DaS3.
Eli Baker
Have you even played BB? You have no idea what your talking about
Ryan Wood
DaS3 = DaS1 = DeS > BB >>> DaS2
Luis Morales
I don't think I'll ever understand the obsession retards have with poise. It's a literal cancer mechanic worse than long ass i-frames. By saying you like poise, you're basically telling everybody that you play like a brainless monkey who just wants to stand in one place and spam R1.
Colton Phillips
see
Jayden Robinson
I have played BB yes.
I platinumed it.
Asher Fisher
That's because everyone who likes DaS2 has a warped taste and also thinks it's the best in the series. Very few people think that DaS3 is the best Soulsborne game, and rightly so.
Henry Evans
Yes, go with refined. Refined is very good. Sharp and heavy are more situational.
Christian Baker
Yeah maybe in your alternate reality of Cred Forums.
Isaiah Torres
there isn't any chance you have the season pass in your inventory and are willing to gift it?
Matthew Lee
I like Dark Souls 3 because it looks pretty and has faster animations.
I don't think there's anything exciting about long telegraphs that you can't react to because your animations are even slower.
I don't think amateurish texture work that makes everything look like it's lathered with soap is conductive to good atmosphere. There's an awkward gleam to everything that gives off a very artificial vibe. Dark Souls never looked good -- and not for it's technical shortcomings, but because visual artists lacked skill.
I don't think there was anything particularly interesting about Dark Souls in the first place. It's a collection of generic fantasy tropes peppered with standard Japanese wackiness which is only exciting if you haven't seen any Japanese wackiness before. Dark Souls is corny and even if it were tempered with enough humor (which it isn't), it would just be the standard kind of "ain't I so wacky?" Japanese humor which is a cop-out for doing lol so randumb shit (see: Hideo Kojima).
Sure, a lot of things in Dark Souls are rooted in lore and every crazy thing has it's roots somewhere in there, but you have to realize that when we say "lore" here, we mean "every wacky thing is even wackier if you look closer". In reality, Dark Souls "lore" is a collection of random shit and is massively overrated because nerds think that everything mysterious and hidden from plain sight must automatically be some profound shit.
Nicholas Peterson
But those unfinished levels were just Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith, no? Granted they ARE really shitty with the dragon ass copypaste and Bed of Bullshit. It's really a shame because the rest of the game is pretty good, although it's true that the first half is the better one
Ryan Robinson
Doesn't that statistically proof that DaS2 is better than DaS3?
Isaac Smith
Thanks user. The ambiguity of how things worked was holding me back.
Cameron Davis
>I had more fun with it because pvp wasn't complete ass from day one
You probably didn't pvp from day one
Christian Cruz
Move/roll slow but can tank Move/roll fast, but can't tank
Nothing wrong with poise as a concept. I would have liked if they took the system from 1 and refined it. In stead we got a system even more lame... nothing
Christopher Peterson
Poise prevents fast weapons from completely outclassing slow weapons. It worked in DeS because slow weapons were so strong and it was so easy to heal if you got chipped by a fast weapon. BB simply has no slow weapons. DaS3 feels the pain of no poise.
No?
Carter Thompson
prove it faggot
Elijah Rivera
>that you can't react to because your animations are even slower Dodges, parries and blocks are flash instant in Dark Souls 1 no matter how much faster your character would be you'd fail to dodge because you just can't time for shit.
git gud
Joshua Nguyen
How?
Isaac Bennett
>Poise prevents fast weapons from completely outclassing slow weapons. Poise also prevents fast weapons from being staggered by heavier weapons, allowing fast weapons to do even more burst damage.
There's a reason we got rid of poise and brought hyperarmor instead.
Mason Nguyen
DeS presented a mountain of challenges in progressing through the game and acquiring gear. But that process didn't change at any point in the series, so the challenge of any game after that lies entirely in learning enemy attack patterns. DeS was great because I was so thoroughly lost and confused, but anyone could say that about whichever game was the one in which the player entered the series.
If there's one thing I think DeS did better than DaS it was the atmosphere, which is debatable. I think the series would benefit the most from rethinking progress and giving old players an entirely new process to figure out.
Elijah Brown
post your PSNprofile or take pic of trophy w/ timestamp
Any ideas for a Greatsword/No Poise character in DaS1? I've never done a heavy weapons character before, and I'm curious about how would it work
Jordan Davis
I agree with you that Dark Souls 3 is better than both Dark Souls 1 and 2, but why do you give retarded reasons? The textures suck because you are a low IQ subhuman who can't spend literally less than 30 minutes watching a quick guide on YouTube and setting up 4-6 mods for Dark Souls 1 that turns the game in to HD tier 60(58) fps graphics.
Landon Ortiz
Every Souls game has hyper armour.
I'm not saying poise was implemented perfectly, but it's not a completely shitty idea. It has a purpose.
Not nearly as slow as slow Souls weapons.
Justin Cooper
Zwei destroys everything early game, so you might not need any poise. Go for it. Maybe finish it up as a mid-level pvp build. UGS are great there.
Isaac Clark
I stopped using texture mods for DaS (except UI) because of the stutters when loading. Not worth it.
Joshua Brooks
They are still relatively slow and therefore useless in competitive pvp. Which wast the argument against DaS3.
Xavier Sullivan
Just get gud with the one of the most "meme" weapons, the zewihander (The thing feels so fucking good), and dump some points in to endurance with FAP or whatever to have your weight be under 30% for them fast rolls and so you can swing the thing more then twice at a time.
Connor Rodriguez
>Shamble through the game once blindly, so you can jack off and say you finished it blindly >Immediately jump to the wiki to see which builds are optimal and which combinations of gear are OP. Alternatively, spend inordinate amounts of time figuring out the exact same shit by wasting your time replaying the game dozens of times and memorizing useless crap instead of studying, playing an instrument or learning some other useful skill >Replay the game with foreknowledge of stupid shit that fucked you over the last time >"Behold, for I have rethought the process"
Nerds.
Levi Allen
To be honest I haven't played BB, I was just parroting what I've heard. I'm not surprised that it's in the same situation as DaS3.
Tyler Lee
>Every Souls game has hyper armour. No.
Tyler Ross
What is your GPU and CPU?
Go Claymore or kys trash.
Elijah Anderson
Video games are fun! Haha, right guys?
Xavier Cox
Yes.
6770K R9 390 I even installed DaS (and the textures) on my SSD and it didn't help.
Isaac White
Haven't played it but after playing DS DaS 1 and 2 and a bit of Bloodborne I agree that it's probably like that, since those I mentioned are all like that.
Isaiah Myers
I don't even care that you can just look up shit in a minute.
It's the way you're so heavily tempted to do it. Seriously, have the game drop a couple more messages or have a manual in the game and I bet those wikis would have been a lot more quiet places.
Jacob Myers
But you do have your transform attacks which can segway into other combos. Most of these weapons have a 1hand version that's pretty fast. Ludwig/Kirk have the same straight sword 1 hand, and Ludwig/Kirk/Hunters Axe Transformed all have some mad range with L2s/R2s
Jace White
Some are (DaS1, DaS2, Demon's) others are not (DaS3, BB, superman 64)
Kevin Johnson
It's just so slow and the combat feels floaty, like the impact weapons have on enemies and on your player character is so light and weightless. Plus, poise is broken in every game but the first, getting poise broken and staggered while wearing some of the most heavy armor in the game by a short sword or dagger is very stupid. I agree that the weapon/armor variety in 2 is the best in the series.
Aaron Butler
Yeah, that is very true, a big part of the games is learning how things work, and if you already know that, part of the charm is gone. The other day I tried DaS3 at a friend's place and, while the Weapon Arts were an interesting addition, it didn't feel as charming as thrilling because you know how things function and it turns very formulaic. I can see that But how would go about reinventing the wheel and making things feel fresh?
I haven't played it myself, but it sounds like Bloodborne, with its emphasis in speed and aggressiveness, in contrast with Dark Souls' more defensive, methodical focus, was a step in the right direction I kind of wish now Dark Souls had some sort of Turbo Mode a la Devil May Cry
Mason Morris
>Yes. No. Dark Souls and Demon's Souls don't have them.
Why are you like this? You could just look this up in a sec and not appear as a mouthbreather.
Noah Harris
Transform attacks are better than dual wielding no question but not that much better that the comparison isn't apt anymore.
Matthew Kelly
Yes they do, retard.
Asher Phillips
>I haven't played it myself, but it sounds like Bloodborne, with its emphasis in speed and aggressiveness As much as it targets this, it mostly falls bit flat on specifically just this. The problem is that there's no real difference between fast gameplay and allowing the player to just spam R1 and dodge a lot.
Ian Long
>Being so salty for being cucked out of playing BB, an objectively good and fun game, that you compare it to superman 64. It's sad, really.
Is this what you're referring to? Do you honestly think this looks any better than the original?
It just looks like a sharper version of the exact same shit. Same cheap, plastic vibe because everything glows for no reason.
I often hear Dark Souls is somber and depressing - looks just plain washed out to me. Game wants to be dark but it also wants to be all shiny like animu.
At least Dark Souls 3 embraced the animu and looks just plain polished without much pretense involved.
Wyatt Adams
DS3 has great bosses in the second half and great level design. World design was shit though, they should've at least let you get all the way to the princes with the dancer skip, the arbitrary key was bullshit.
Bloodborne is my favorite just on gameplay alone though. The dodges, the transformation attacks, and even the way the charge attacks work just feels so much more satisfying than Souls gameplay. I find myself consistently using both forms of my weapon and parries in BB while I found myself spamming R1 way too much in DS3.
Zachary Green
[citation needed]
Kayden Foster
>Reinventing the wheel >Hasn't played Bloodborne You know nothing of wheels my child.
Xavier Robinson
See how you don't defend DaS3 even though it is essentially the same game? You just have proven that you only like BB because it is exclusive. Even if you now say "but I also like DaS3" that doesn't change anything. Because you don't feel the need to defend das3. The complaints against das3 are valid because it is not exclusive. But surely the people making the same complaints against BB are just salty they can't play it.
Hudson Powell
Meant for Also I disagree about DaS2 having the best movesets, they fucked with the claymore. At least 3 brought it back in all its glory with it's original moveset. I really liked 3 because 1 is my favorite and when playing 3 I redesigned my character from the first game. It felt like I was playing DaS1 again , which is all I ever wanted. They could just keep producing DLC for DaS1 and I'd be happy.
Daniel Watson
I'm not going to deny that it reaches out to players of their previous titles, but I don't think that's a bad thing. The game is an overall improvement from the previous dark souls games imo. The only real problem is that the areas aren't all interconnected to the degree that DS1 was, which is a pretty minor thing in the long run. The game builds upon the souls lore much better than DS2 ever did, the combat is indeed built upon what they have done in the past, but that's because when making a game you try to stick with what works.
I think your problem is that you've played too much souls games. I had that similar issue with Monster Hunter games when Generations came out. I've just reached the end of it all, and had no more interest in it. So I put it down for a while.
Jason Wood
I don't think it was inherently a bad or even mediocre game. In fact in many ways it improved on prior titles. The problem is that they ran the series into the ground. Demon's Souls came out in 2009, then Dark Souls came out in late 2011, then there was DLC, then Dark Souls 2 in 2014, and three lots of DLC, then Bloodborne in 2015, and DLC, then Dark Souls 3 in early 2016 and more DLC. During the last three years we've had one of these games a year, plus the fact that knock-offs and wannabes have been coming out too. It's too much too quickly for this sort of game, and it shows as well in the quality, you can sometimes see corners being cut. It's the Assassin's Creed effect. They oversaturated this little genre and now it's gotten boring. I know why they did it, they hit the closest thing to mainstream success they've had in the entire lifespan of the company with these titles, and didn't want to stop the gravy train. They could have, it's not like they haven't got other IPs (make another Armored Core From I swear to god) but they wanted to make as much money as possible.
Samuel Peterson
>they fucked with the claymore I'm a religious hater of DaS2 movesets, but the claymore was ok. R2 R2
It's going to be hard to find something that proves it in DaS because the game also has poise, but usually when starting a new playthrough I'm naked with the Zweihander to stay under 25% equip load and I definitely get hyper armour on some attacks.
Easton Morales
You are not.
Xavier Jackson
Dude, the entire game is built on intentionally withholding useful information. That's why players can leave messages in-game. It's designed as a puzzle box that people figure out together. Would be kind of a cool idea if you were figuring out something interesting rather than some batshit fantasy world with dead people, tits, magic flames and dachshund snakes which to anyone who isn't overly excited just signals "yep, it's Japanese".
So you can't just have fun bashing shit, you really have to pay attention to this world of autism if you don't want to fuck up. The internet wants me to believe this is the game's strength but alas, I'm not a weeb.
Jonathan Harris
>DaS3 is the same as BB Stay cucked, oh salty one.
Seriously though, see
Jason Robinson
But how does it work? How do you make a wheel spin to hit harder?
Jordan Ramirez
>pretty minor thing in the long run. Actually it's minor for your first couple of playthroughs. In the long run, it sucks, because you do the same shit EVERY TIME. You can't even run ahead to get your favourite weapon like you nearly always can in DaS.
Jack Jones
DaS3 has the same flaws at least.
Angel Turner
That's right actually.
Oliver White
do you genuinely have autism
Hudson Taylor
>Dude, the entire game is built on intentionally withholding useful information. I just realized there was no real "fun" found between not getting it and getting it. Seriously, I have vivid memories of those moments happening several times with DS3 and it just didn't click. >It's designed as a puzzle box that people figure out together. It would be so much more fun if it worked that way, but that's DaS1 basically.
David Adams
You really aren't. The game isn't going anywhere and you can just wait until they repackage everything with the DLC.
Ryder Hill
Why are "Gamers" so retarded?
If you don't do anything else for several hundred hours of course it get's stale you stupid idiots.
Nicholas Scott
>If you don't do anything else for several hundred hours of course it get's stale you stupid idiots. So why don't you stop being a waste of space?
Charles Robinson
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Nolan Bell
There's a whole canvas on which they could create a new process. A more complex system of acquiring gear would be a good first start. In all of the games, it basically boils down to either A) finding an item in the world or B) defeating a boss and talking to an NPC. Then you have a few that are faction rewards or drops from NPC reactions, neither of which you would likely ever figure out without reading a wiki. Just change what those few processes are, or increase their number.
The thing BB did best about changing it was decreasing the number of weapons IMO. DaS series games have hordes of weapons to pick from, so they're bound to be strictly categorized in the ways in which they are acquired. With a limited number of weapons to choose from, it is by default easier to make the process by which each is acquired unique without being convoluted. Fuck I would even welcome a system in which most weapons are acquired via different optional quest paths, but only if they changed that so you didn't have to read the fucking wiki to make sure you got to the end of it ok. The "quests" in the game currently fucking suck IMO.
Grayson Flores
MODS
Eli Edwards
>Setting? Stale and already fully explored Taking the world to it's ultimate stage of decaying is exclusive and original to DS3 inside the series, and was well done.
>Lore? Does not exist. Man I didn't even finish the game and I know there's a shitton of lore in DS3, the whole story about the Pontiff and it's followers, the lore of the Abyss Watchers, etc.
>Combat? Copy-pasted from previous titles and glued together into one unholy abomination, even when it clearly doesn't work. Why? DS3 hits a pretty sweespot between DS1 and Bloodborne. I liked it. Not necessarily the better one but definitely not "creatively bankrupt".
>Level-design? Literally re-hash: the game. Most of the game is: "Hey guys, remember this area/item from Demons/Dark/Bloodborne? Yes, us too. Us gamers man, us gamers!"
The level design in 3 is among the best of the franchise m8, the fuck you're on.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Pro DS1: >content pre-OandS is the best in the series >amazing atmosphere and progression >DLC is amazing >exploration feels rewarding and everything feels open >story is the most coherent
Contra DS1: >content after OandS belongs to the worst of the series >combat aged >graphics aged >multiplayer is either dead or a mess >covenants are basic and partly broken
Pro DS2 >Fashion Souls >not as open as DS1 but still pretty open >shitload of weapons and movesets >biggest amount of bosses in the series >fun covenants for MP and SP >huge variety of areas >best PvP >game lets you refight bosses without going NG+ >games story is a true sequel to DS1 and uses throwbacks and new material mostly alright >NG+ offers extra content beyond items
Contra DS2: >SM doesn't work as intended >Designs can be clunky and ugly at times >most bosses aren't all that impressive >some parts of the lore are badly placed or just cheap pandering >two edition jewing which divided the playerbase >questionable mob placement
Pro DS3 >best graphics in the series >most consistent quality in the series >some fun covenant ideas like the Mound Maker or Aldrich Faithful >some throwbacks are nice
Contra DS3 >Broken covenants like the Blademoons >Lore makes zero sense after DS2 >More pandering than DS2 was >PvP balance is off - No build variety >DLC still not released
William Moore
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Parker Young
FROM has always been terrible at making the player feel at ease just playing through the game without worrying about potentially locking themselves out of a quest whenever they accomplish anything.
Hudson Morgan
Now that you mention it, it's nothing actually special, but I really liked how, in Demon's, you would find the unique weapons stabbed in the ground, and your character would go up to them and pick them up. It was nothing too spectacular, but it sure made the moment feel special. It was a pretty cool little thing, and it's a shame that (to my knowledge) it wasn't done in the other games
Evan Foster
That is weird, I am using inferior hardware to you and mine doesn't have issues. Try setting fps cap at 58, that will fix most issues with stuttering and the ladder gliding glitch becomes practically non-existent.
Made a new character, works smooth.
Sebastian Powell
Of course it looks better than the original, the original is 720p 30 fps with fps drops and garbage textures.
Modded it is 1080p 60 (58) fps with HD textures.
Fuck off.
Gabriel Gonzalez
That mod makes it obvious what DS2 suffers from.
The fact that the game got developed for the PS3 and 360.
DS2 looks so weird because it has sharper textures on low polygons.
Aiden Hill
sewers and dungeons are easy to design, open cities aren't.
Nicholas Jones
>Chosen Undead's poop jar from Dark Souls 1
what
Michael Wilson
>Irithyll >open
lmao
Aiden Gray
>never knew this >probably rolled throught hem >rolling in shit >Dark Souls 2
hehe, pottery eyeronik.
Gavin Wright
This was the best area in alll soulsborne games.
Best graphics, best atmosphere, best music, best boss at the end. God tier zone, will never ben surpassed.
Wherever you go, the moon still sets in Irithyll. Wherever you may be, Irithyll is your home.
Charles Jackson
Hey guys I just started playing DS. I activated some gold sign on the floor and a white guy appeared and started killing all monsters and even killed the boss. Is this normal?
Jackson Scott
Irithyll was the worst shit in DaS3. You get to that cliff and you're like "Holy shit time to explore Yharnam". Then it's like one street and a balcony.
Nicholas Long
F-91 is fucking shit
Dark Souls 3 should have been Mega Man Volnut and MSG Char's Counterattack
that means the best of the best
Ethan Bell
They are all on sale on humble, right? Which one should I buy?
Wyatt Wright
>nothing about the actual level design or enemy encounters
I wonder why
Luke Hall
Victory Gundam is the worst Tomino TV Gundam though
Andrew Parker
honestly all of them. For all of the complaining and rating and stupid analogies, they're all solid games that are fun in their own right.
Aiden Price
>using summons
Cancer casual. Let me guess, you also enjoy "playing"(watching) "games"(interactive movies), right?
Logan Robinson
Those are fantastic too, it is just shitters like you fags who don't have poise to perma block the ghost brides successive attacks that shitpost about how this zone is bad, how the enemy design is bad, because that zone and the enemies raped your shitter ass. Now go cry how DaS3 doesn't have pose some more, cancer shitters.
Michael Young
Ds2 had the worst pve in soulsborne
Lucas Ward
the one good thing it does right is the combat, netcode, and hit boxes say what you want but formsoft nailed the mechanics on this one
Evan Ward
That shit looks terrible.
Lincoln Davis
I wish the pc crowd didnt happen I remember the first thing you see when you boot up demons souls is this giant text saying "if you can find an exploit, use it. make the game easier on yourself"