I CAN NOT FUCKING BEAT HIM FOR THE LIFE OF ME. EVERY TIME I FIGHT HIM HE KILLS ME IN TWO HITS FROM HIS ROLLING AND WHEN HE IS NOT ROLLING HE IS SPAMMING HIS PROJECTILE THAT GETS RID OF A THIRD OF MY HEALTH. I EVEN TOOK HIS ARMOR OFF AND I CAN'T BEAT HIM
Believe me, it does suck, but AA is reasonable... UNLIKE VIOLEN
Zachary Martinez
I'm sick of going through his shit stage every time
Caleb Harris
Violen is bullshit
BUT HEY REMEMBER BYTE
Wyatt Brown
>people have trouble with x1
Enjoy x3
Camden Reyes
Get the armor upgrade, the health upgrades, and all the extra tanks, and go in with all filled up. If you still can't beat him, you seriously need to rethink being alive.
Carter Ross
Spark Mandrill dude.
Leo Adams
Do you have Spark Mandrill's weapon? If not, go get that. And some heart tanks. And the armor upgrade in Sting Chameleon's stage
Wyatt Garcia
People seriously find Armored Armadillo hard? Next you'll tell me you get frozen against the Penguin
Nathan Allen
There's no way someone could have trouble with Chill Penguin right? I mean he's the first maverick you're supposed to go after.
Christopher Ramirez
Unless you're trying to beat the bosses with the buster only there's no reason for you to be losing to fucking armored armadillo. Even then he's not impossible to beat with buster only
Zachary Reed
But how? This game is piss easy. I'm pretty sure I beat it when I was 4 or 5 years old.
Christian Cruz
>not liking armored armadillo's stage
How fucking casual can you get, it's both fun AND easy as fuck.
Wow, you really suck at this game then. Give up, because you'll have to beat him again on the second to last level, and he's easier than bosses you'll encounter late game.
Jaxon Butler
Spark Mandrill was troublesome for me until I realized you can cancel his charging punch with a charged shot.
Luke Long
Or you can sit there spamming ice shot until it dies. Literally fucking easiest boss in the game unless you're doing a buster only run.
Ethan Sanchez
*Teleports behind you*
How do I kill this asshole with the Buster?
Chameleon is kind of a dick too when he corners you and attacks you with his tongue.
Logan Cooper
That looks more annoying than anything.
Dylan James
Hey I can't beat anything with controllers too, cheer up. Only ever played the DOS port with keyboard, like 20 years ago.
Carson Fisher
That's the one with the abnormal underwater behavior, right?
Nathan James
Wouldnt know what is normal since I don't have a SNES, but I beat the Octopus no problem.
Chase Carter
>The trickjump at 0:26 just to traverse through the stage >He made the spider boss stupidly fast too Fuck all of that.
Benjamin Cooper
Bit, Byte, Vile, Zero, Agile, they're all easy enough because they have a movement strategy.
Serges and Violen, NOPE, RNGesus.
Lincoln Wilson
>he defeats chill penguin first
Evan Garcia
>Not beating Chill first solely to get the dash
Jaxson Turner
>he dashes >he collects armor pieces Gitgud
Asher Murphy
>Not getting the dash >Going slow Lol
Isaiah Mitchell
Really? He was impossible for me when I was like, 7. Now he's piss easy. Just stand in a fucking corner when he rolls. If he comes toward you dash out of the way. Those projectiles are glacially slow too, so I have no idea how you would find those to be an issue.
Git gud, fgt
Jayden Barnes
>not going for chill penguin first every time >not getting dash boots
Holy shit how does someone this fucking shitty exist?
Isaiah Thomas
>stand in a corner
Not foolproof.
Cameron Bennett
Yeah I played this. Made it through the intro stage and the 8 main bosses. They definitely amped things up. Off of what I remember >Armored Armadillo and Flame Mammoth can't be damaged by standard buster shots because heavy armor, only charge shots will even scratch them and all damage they take is reduced by 50%, also Flame Mammoth can turn the floor and ceilings to lava >Boomer Kuwanger teleports twice as often, also you can't walljump at all, the arena is cramped and has holes in it, tough as nails >Chill Penguin's arena also has holes, and his belly slide is an instant kill >Sting Chameleon is actually really easy because there's a swamp at the bottom of the arena, if you stay at the bottom his tongue can't reach you and his spikes vanish before reaching you >Launch Octopus shoots twice as many missiles >Spark Mandrill is pretty rough since you're forced to use the buster for at least half of the fight >STORM EAGLE IS A MASSIVE DICKRIDING FAGGOT WHO FEELS THE NEED TO DIVE-BOMB YOU OFF THE TINY PLATFORMS AND INTO SPIKE PITS OR THE HOLE EVERY 4 SECONDS, ALSO THOSE TORNADOS ARE GAY
Hunter Long
>The casual who needs the broken super armor to complete the game thinks he's in a position to talk
Get away from this thread and don't talk with us ever again.
Jaxon Hill
hideofbeast
Elijah Morris
>Chill Penguin's arena also has holes, and his belly slide is an instant kill >belly slide is an instant kill
Why?
Chase Cook
That's why I said move if he comes toward you. It's so fucking easy to predict where he's going to go next, and you really don't have to move that far out of the way to dodge him. How do you expect to beat Sigma if you're this bad?
Adrian Cruz
YOU GET gud
Carson Cooper
lol fuck off with your self-imposed artificial difficulty. The boots are intended for mandatory use to complete the game, otherwise the capsule containing them wouldn't block your path
Caleb Evans
>dashing - in integral part of megaman games since fucking 3 - is broken
I can't tell if this is bait or if you are literally mentally handicapped.
>The boots are intended for mandatory use to complete the game
This is an interesting point, is it possible to complete the game without the boots?
Can you even get through the platform section in Sigma's Fortress 1?
Gavin Gray
>tfw beating a boss with the buster only
Joshua Lopez
>dashing is broken >the stupid headbutt is broken >the buster you get one way or another is broken
Lincoln Taylor
Yes, I did it back when keyboards didn't let you press three buttons at once.
Tyler Powell
It's more than possible to complete X1 without dashing
X2 is a different story though since that game literally was designed around having the dash maneuver from the start (still possible but requires some working around)
Secondly, you are massively underestimating the margin of error where you run smack into the attack or just nick it. Especially without the Dash.
Brayden Miller
>without the Dash
What is this meme?
Lucas Butler
>sliding is the same thing as dashing
Dominic Jackson
I beat this game when I was seven. Git gud, faggot.
Zachary Allen
Dash is mapped to the A button
Levi Gonzalez
It's not a meme - if some poor bastard selected AA on their first ever blind run, they're screwed.
Brayden Sanchez
There are passwords to start you with Chill Penguin defeated and no boots. So its doable, at least password wise.
Still, Im not the other dude but I feel playing without the boots is more satisfying. Storm Eagle was the first vidya boss I ever defeated and I did it without the boots. And what a fucking battle that was.
Isaac Scott
Developers realized dash was such an important move, that you automatically start with it in every other X game and some MM original games.
Also, the dash boot capsule is unavoidable in X1. You literally have to take that move to even finish the game. Why would you neglect one of the most important and satisfying mechanics in the entire game series? What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you stupid?
Asher Lee
Well, that's two flaws.
MMX isn't a 10/10. Damn.
Joseph Mitchell
I have the hardest time with the ancient mega mans. Maybe it's because I started with the PS1 ones, but I can do x4, x5, x6, etc but not MM1-6, or x1-x3. Did you know you can use other robot powers to take down some bosses faster?
Benjamin Cooper
Really? He's easy, dude.
His projectile is fucking slow, and he bounces in ridiculously predictable line.
Actually, I want to see you fight Wheel Gator in X2. That'd be fucking hilarious.
Hunter Long
>Why would you neglect one of the most important and satisfying mechanics in the entire game series? What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you stupid?
Either a masochist or someone who enjoys self imposed challenges? Kinda like fighting against your mortal enemy while wearing really heavy gear that only hinders you?
I don't know because I never choose any stage that wasn't Icy Penguigo's on my runs.
Grayson Jackson
How in the fuck am I suppose to beat this fucking guy?
Caleb Wood
the actual fun of AA is his stage
Nolan Evans
>that slow down Why was it so satisfying back then but not people lose their shit at fps drops
Nathan Powell
Thank you, I don't get to use this image in a thematic context very often.
Ayden Moore
for a "mega" man he runs too slow. dash makes the game playable
Evan Edwards
Not really. Going after Chill Penguin and getting the boots first is optimal, but most stages are designed to be pretty difficult without the dash. They're doable if you're really really good, but they definitely will kill an inexperienced player.
Now, if you're a kid and a stage kicked your ass without even getting to a single checkpoint, what do you do when you hit the continue screen? You pick another stage. Last time, your odds of picking the right stage were 1/8. Now they're 1/7, and next time they'll be 1/6, 1/5, 1/4, etc.
Megaman X was also released during a time when kids expected to die a lot in order to learn the game. We didn't have Dark Souls, because every fucking game was Dark Souls. (Hell, ALttP's Turtle Rock dungeon has a boss you literally can't kill without a weapon found somewhere else)
It was part of the design for players to get their shit pushed in until they picked the "right" stage.
Besides, Chill Penguin isn't the only boss you can fight first. Sting Chameleon and Launch Octopus aren't too bad to fight.
Jack Morris
what a short level
Adam Green
Back then when stuff slowed down it felt like a movie or cartoon where they'd do slowmotion to emphasize cool moments, nowadays it just looks weird when it happens during looking at shadows or grass
William Rodriguez
The fucking heatman one was worse >instead of dashing across the screen it stops right under you
Dylan Ross
Back then it meant that the game was pushing the hardware to or even past its limits. Now it's just a sign of lazy programming or overly ambitious design. When a game can do twice as much as another but the latter has stuttering and slowdown, you know someone isn't doing their job well.
Ryan Peterson
>all the stuff that's skipped because you can just ride the platform Also, I don't think those birds at the end appear in any other stage. Weird.
Austin Torres
I don't know, but I always loved it too. It gave my mind time to really take it all in during those crazy moments.
I always imagined them like an adrenaline rush, because it slows down time, gives you a better response and only happen during insane/overwhelming moments that would probably kill you otherwise.
Jose Sullivan
>(Hell, ALttP's Turtle Rock dungeon has a boss you literally can't kill without a weapon found somewhere else) I know a lot of people will call this bad game design but is it really?
Owen Sullivan
I'm pretty sure someone somewhere tells you that you absolutely need the magic of ice and tells you that you'd better bring a magic potion to be safe.
Even then, it's easy to go and pick up the ice rod because the Ocarina can take you straight to the corner of the map where it's hidden.
Eli Nguyen
That's kind of what I figured. A lot of what people call "bad game design" are the same kinds of people who just keep pressing A to blow past dialogue and don't bother interacting with NPCs unless it's obvious as fuck that they have a quest or something (i.e. Diablo 3)
Cameron Walker
>not doing Storm Eagle first
Faggots, all of you.
Joseph Powell
>Megaman X was also released during a time when kids expected to die a lot in order to learn the game. We didn't have Dark Souls, because every fucking game was Dark Souls. >It was part of the design for players to get their shit pushed in until they picked the "right" stage.
Kinda going on a tangent here but that was done only due to technological constraints of the time. You can beat MMX and indeed most games of its kind in one sitting (hell many games of the sort didn't even have password saves much less battery saves), making the game about extreme amounts of memorization/trial and error was the way to pad it off and offer a meaningful amount of playtime for what was a very expensive product back in the day. MMX is extremely lenient though, I'll admit.
It's the kind of thing that nowadays would get looked down upon as lazy game design and rightly so. And before you say it no, Dark Souls doesn't rely on that nearly as much.
Landon Foster
This is the only SNES MMX stage boss that's a challenge to beat without any upgrades or weapons.
Colton Watson
Magma Dragoon, there is a reason he's notorious.
Adam Kelly
>SNES
Liam Bailey
I want to say it is, but LttP is pretty dang small considering. You feel compelled to explore, it's fun to run with the pegasus boots, I know I found the ice rod myself without a guide (but also never talking to NPCs)
Noah Barnes
FUCKING FUCK YOU HORNET YOU WERE THE FIRST FUCKING STAGE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE EASY FUCK YOU NIGGER FUCK YOU
Evan Howard
You physically have to get the Dash to beat the game. Unless you're a scrub and you use passwords