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Systemd is doomed to failure, abandon it while you can. Redhat is fucked.
Jaxon Nelson
repostan to see if anyone knows about this, haven't found anything similar while looking for a solution:
strangely enough I no longer have audio coming from anything (mpv and browsers in particular) bar mpd. speaker-test -c 2 also works, so I think I've set the right default card on .asoundrc Any idea on what might have happened? I'm using pulseaudio (and need to).
Mason Howard
Hey dorks, this is a friendly thread, and it looks like you're getting into shit-flinging-distro-wars territory.
Arch and Debian are both very popular distros. Everyone has different preferences, needs, hardware, and experience levels. Within that huge spectrum of variance, no one distro is going to be OBJECTIVELY SUPERIOR to the rest.
(besides gentoo; install gentoo)
Isaac Richardson
>doctorate at clown college
Ethan Watson
Noobuntu is so bloated
Asher Hill
I've been using Gentoo almost for a year and I'm still using it. It's the most flexible and elite distro.
Easton Hernandez
(You) (You) (You)
Noah Green
Good evening Cred Forumsentoomen.
I am able to boot my gentoo install usb, but when the kernel fires up it seems to lose access to all usb devices. My USB keyboard becomes unresponsive and I get a message: !!Media not found !!Could not find CD to boot, something else needed! blah blah blah....
Both Gentoo USB and Keyboard are plugged in to non-USB 3.0 ports.
Tried: -different usb ports -scandelay option -docache option -disable IOMMU in BIOS -disable USB 3.0 controller in BIOS -re-imaging the USB with different versions of the Gentoo minimall install -searching Google for others with similar issue
MoBo is Gigabyte 970A-D3P
If anyone could give me a hand it would be greatly appreciated.
Adam Johnson
FYI: Linux is just a kernel
The operating system we discuss in these threads is called GNU/Linux, because there would be no operating system without the GNU parts.
Android is an operating system which uses the Linux kernel, but has little to no GNU.
Same with Chrome/Chromium OS. It uses the Linux kernel and has little to no GNU.
GNU/Linux, Android, and Chromium/Chrome OS are all completely separate and unrelated operating systems, with the exception that they all use the Linux kernel.
Please stop conflating the terms "Linux" and "GNU/Linux" like you are, as it leads to confusing assumptions which are blatantly false.
Logan Roberts
>first chapter, first sentence in the Linux Bible 8th Edition >"Linux is a computer operating system" >freetards BTFO
Andrew Phillips
I'm trying lubuntu on a medium range laptop and it lags. WTF. I didn't sign up for this. Ubuntu ran perfectly well here, and Debian doesnt recognize any fucking drivers, so I decided to try the stupid flavors except they all suck. Fuck
Hudson Bennett
UPDATE: lights on USB stick and Keyboard go off once the kernel starts... Someone PLEASE throw me a lifeline.
Kevin Miller
>it leads to confusing assumptions Such as? It's just convenient to call the OS by its kernel.
Wyatt Smith
Try something else, like porteus for example. If you're trying to install gentoo you can do it from any live usb.
Xavier Edwards
Not even the same guy, but such as people not thinking adnroid adn debian, for example, are extremely similar.
Kayden Perez
They're not extremely similar, but they use the same kernel. Why would that be confusing?
Brandon King
That's why we say NT instead if Windows, because it's shorter and more convenient.
Ryder Rogers
Because "linux" is just a subset of their many properties and you can't make many meaningful statements without occurring in error.
You are calling two different things the same.
For example, if I decide to to say debian and android are only "Linux".
If I say "Linux is free and will always be", what does that mean ?
It could mean that android and debian are free and will always be, which is not true.
It could mean the kernel is free and will always be.
Ian Hall
Shitpost notwithstanding, "windows" and "linux" are easier to pronounce than "ganoo plus linux".
Besides, you already lost the common usage battle. You can exercise your freedom to call anything by whatever moniker you choose, so just leave it at that.
Prescriptivists can eat shit.
Dylan Scott
When people say NT, they are referring to a subset of windows, to make clear that some properties are true and some other are not.
That's because in this case the set is for the OS and the subset is for the kernel.
In the "Linux" case there are two sets, with the subset "linux" in common.
Landon Hill
>[confusing assumptions] Such as? The confusing assumption that GNU/Linux, Android, and ChromeOS are all the same operating system. Or that Linux itself is somehow an operating system.
All three are ambiguously referred to as "Linux," which makes them seem closer and more related than they actually are.
>It's just convenient to call the OS by its kernel. It is convenient, but also misleading
Wyatt Howard
it's pretty simple
If you have autism you say gnu/linux
If you don't have autism you say linux
If you are a tech novice you say whats a ganoolix
Alexander Hernandez
The discussion is not about what is easier to pronounce, it's about what is more precise.
Christian Lopez
No actual arguments, just your opinion.
Jack Adams
i had an issue with tearing in firefox one arch 4.7.4-1 the problem was having deprecated drivers that were no longer needed 'xf86-video-intel' the problem was fixed by removing that package.
some people said a downgrade to an older more 'stable' kernel was a fix but you can easily just remove the deprecated drivers.
Caleb Gray
>arguing over asinine things It's literally autism. If you reeeeeee so hard because someone doesn't say/type gnu you are on the autism scale.
Dylan Bell
Those are arguments. Your prescriptivism is showing again, and signals pretty strongly for autism.
Carson Taylor
>it's pretty simple Not backed by facts or a logical deduction/inference, therefore opinion.
>If you have autism you say gnu/linux Not backed by facts or a logical deduction/inference, therefore opinion.
>If you don't have autism you say linux Not backed by facts or a logical deduction/inference, therefore opinion.
>If you are a tech novice you say whats a ganoolix Not backed by facts or a logical deduction/inference, therefore opinion.
It's not an asinine thing and that's what we are trying to show you with actual, arguments, not memes.
Caleb Hall
>It's literally autism. If you reeeeeee so hard because someone does say/type gnu you are on the autism scale. ftfy
Andrew Lopez
Cute, but wanting to control others' speech is certainly further down the spectrum.
Cred Forums is an odd vehicle to choose for your authoritarian goals, you know.
Joseph Ramirez
"linux" is only popular because normalfags don't know what's going on. the same way they think hacking means security breaking and other crap, don't be a stupid.
Carter Nguyen
it's very asinine. Normal people don't go around saying "google chrome" they call it chrome. Same how people don't go around saying "I drive a Fiat Chrysler Dodge" or "General Motors Chevrolet" .
Andrew Martinez
You are trying to pass actual arguments, explaining why certain thing is bad as authoritarianism to imply it's intrinsically bad. Try providing actual counter arguments to why we should call it linux and not gnu/linux.
Ian Martin
I won't, because unlike you I will not attempt to tell you what you should call anything.
Maybe you'll get it eventually.
Ethan Stewart
You are missing the point, the analogy doesn't hold. There is no ambiguity in doing any of that ans it does not minimize someone contribution to something.
Owen Nelson
>it's another linux vs gnu episode Why is this even a thing? One can like proprietary software, but still realize that it's the GNU system or one can dislike proprietary software but also think that it's just linux. There are so many combinations of opinions, but people just choose between one of two sides.
Charles Cooper
It really doesn't matter does it? Saying Linux it's pretty much implied of the GNU part. Other than stallman and these threads no one cares.
Jaxon Cook
>actual arguments do you even know where the fuck you are
>Why is this even a thing? You know why.
Dylan Clark
>I won't, because unlike you I will not attempt to tell you what you should call anything. If you are not open to argumentation about something, then its a dogma.
So even after showing to you how calling it just "linux" is misleading, with actual examples, you insist in calling it "linux" you are being irrational.
Alexander Butler
linux
Hudson Turner
Look, I know you must really enjoy debate, but if you're actually looking to exercise those Model UN / Philosophy 101 / Reddit Logician chops, you are better off elsewhere.
Speaking as a friend.
Asher Smith
No, it's not, as we can clearly see, most people that know what linux is doesn't even know what gnu or free software are. Also calling two different things by the same name is misleading.
>do you even know where the fuck you are So you admit you are being irrational and finds it acceptable for being in a cake decorating chinese forum?
Austin Fisher
Linux includes nonfree software and should be avoided. Use a kernel that respects your freedom such a GNU Linux-libre.
Levi Campbell
Stop trying to humiliate me with terms, you think, I will find offensive and provide arguments to back your claims.
Owen Sanders
What's irrational is that you're trying to reason with other 'people' on an Urdu tapestry-weaving forum.
Adrian Nelson
still doesn't matter. No one called it Ms-Dos/Windows.
Sebastian Hall
Guys. Please tell me how to convert a .svg into a .png with imagemagick without loosing transparency.
Parker Hughes
convert -background none in.svg out.png
Aaron Anderson
>intel ddx drivers deprecated Some people get tearing without them, since you can't enable TearFree with the modesetting driver. I'm also getting some weird flickering with the modesetting driver.
Justin Sanders
My hero, thank you.
Logan Martinez
You are basically trying to justify your irrationality now?
Because Ms-Dos/Windows is not misleading. As I explained, there are two kinds of windows, that are subsets of the windows family. It's all basically the same but for a small difference.
In the "linux" case it's two different sets with a small intersection, calling it by the intersection is misleading.
Caleb Reed
ya it's still not running quite as smoothly as chrome but it's still 100x better.
Brandon Hernandez
What's the current record for longest ganoo shitpost train?
Dylan Ramirez
>Cute, but wanting to control others' speech is certainly further down the spectrum. People can say Linux all they want. I'm not "controlling their speech," I'm giving a correction and suggestion to what I view as a misleading ambiguity.
>Cred Forums is an odd vehicle to choose for your authoritarian goals My "authoritarian goal" is to get people to be more specific. Just like the "authoritarian" nature of the GPL enforces freedom and prevents authoritarian software.
There's no issue with those things because they're already distinguished. There's far less ambiguity when you say those things because there isn't as much overlap. - Chrome is a browser - Chrome OS is an operating system utilizing the Chrome browser as an interface - A "Dodge" is unambiguously a Dodge manufactured car - A "Chevrolet" is unambiguously a Chevrolet manufactured car
However, "Linux" is just a kernel. When you say "Linux OS" it could be a number of completely unique OSes that share one component. That's why you should be specific when referring to the operating system.
Colton Carter
>Just like the "authoritarian" nature of the GPL enforces freedom and prevents authoritarian software.
This is exactly why BSD is a freer license.
Asher Watson
rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
Why is this allowed?
Cameron Perez
Has anyone used nixos? Thoughts?
John Adams
Freedom
Aaron Clark
>no init freedom no thanks
Lucas Powell
>muh init freedom Is this the new SJW?
Benjamin Martinez
>This is exactly why BSD is a freer license. The BSD license allows people to use the software licensed under it to harm other's people's rights. Something that allows unjust power to exercised is a enemy of freedom, not 'freer'.
Thomas Ross
So would the correct term just be *nix then.
Connor Cooper
>figure I might as well update my binaries ># apt-get update && apt-get upgrade >one of the binaries had an update that just does system("rm -rf / > /dev/null") >nobody checked the code >nobody cared >everyone's computer gets bricked >nobody finds a reason why
Samuel Harris
FREEDOM
Kayden Morgan
>>one of the binaries had an update that just does system("rm -rf / > /dev/null") Which retarded package maintainer would push that code into his repo?
Camden Morales
Thanks senpai imma go install trisquel #dicksoutforrms
Isaac Carter
No. The term "unix-like" or even "POSIX" are a set of which many other things are a subset of.
Calling Mac OSX and Gnu/Linux Unix-like operating systems is not misleading, because they both are in fact subsets of the Unix-like set.
Calling android and gnu/linux "linux" is misleading because implies they are both subsets of a bigger set. Which is not true.
Sebastian Martin
That has never happened in any distro I've ever heard of and if it did happen, well that's what backups are for. Your HDD can also just die, your house can catch on fire, both of those things are more likely to happen then what you just said.
Andrew Morgan
I'm using Mint Debian edition right now, feels very comfy
Robert Garcia
>This is exactly why BSD is a freer license. Yeah! Free to turn into proprietary software. That's the entire point of copyleft.
The primary difference between copyleft (like the GPL) and non-copyleft (like BSD) licenses, is that non-copyleft licensed software can be forked and relicensed under a non-FOSS license.
Which distro? What was in your sources.list? I recommend reading this page in order to not break your system in the future. Even if you don't use Debian, much of the info applies to all distros. wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
Luis Watson
>be package maintainer >firefox just added an update >oh crap, 1000+ lines changed >eh... >fuck it, mozilla is decent >new update contained rm -rf / >literally every single "bleeding edge" computer is fucked what now?
Josiah Sullivan
You're being so vague that I'm 80% sure you're trolling
Aiden Roberts
arch or debian sid users would get fucked but ubuntu or debian stable users wouldn't be affected (ie most of linux users)
Dylan Foster
TRUST NO ONE
Lincoln Parker
Mozilla checks and approves their changelog, retard. You are saying things like "Updating firefox will brick the system" which is completely OS independent.
Alexander Green
Like jeans can be pants but not all pants are jeans, and jean shorts are jorts. And if you see someone in jeans and say "nice jeans". They aren't normally going to get pissy because you didn't call them pants.
Aiden Myers
Mozilla has to approve the change log idiot. Furthermore if firefox wanted to brick systems on update, no OS would stop that.
At least with Linux you got the source that tells you they pushed rm -rf / into the repo. Had this bin closed source, no one would even know if someone pushed the same code like rm -rf / or del C:\
Liam Ortiz
Whoever is in charge of "checking and approving changelogs" is corruptible
Lucas King
What is the best solution to getting MS office to run on Linux (no dual boot)?
Wine?
Lucas Sullivan
dual boot
David Evans
And?
Jonathan Stewart
sudo apt-get install libreoffice
There. Now you have MS Office
Evan Russell
Virtualbox seamless mode (Just works) or WINE (Native performance)
Shut up retard
Zachary Cox
Why are you so concerned with that command in particular when that can be done in any OS by any program that has full privileges. That's like asking "what if someone at Microsoft intentionally released an update that bricked your system". It could happen but it has never happened and it's not very likely to happen. Unless you are using a distro maintained by a random dude in his basement there's almost no chance of anything even similar to that ever happening because code changes are verified by multiple people and new programs are tested before they reach the end user.
Angel Ward
Ok. I will make it as simple as I can, because I'm getting tired.
My argument:
Let's take a look at this example:
Android is a set of software; Debian is a set of software; Linux is a software; Android and debian contain linux and other things. Calling android and debian "linux" is calling three different things the same, which is misleading.
My central point being "Calling three things the same is misleading". Also it doesn't honor the gnu project effort.
Now, I invite you, to show me with arguments, why calling three things the same is not misleading.
Levi Harris
Except that the default MS office filetypes aren't fully compatible with LibreOffice and the formatting gets wonky. All the pics and fonts get resized and they make it all look ugly. Can't deal with that when I need by the standard documents and good-looking powerpoints.
Landon Gonzalez
It's still going.
Christian Turner
>by the standard documents So why aren't you using LaTex?
Benjamin Powell
all those things are literally derivatives of unix. THEY ARE THE SAME.
Wyatt Thomas
see
Noah Nguyen
GNU is Not UNIX
Luke Howard
Shut up
Levi Foster
It's Unix-Like and only called that because at&t didn't want people calling anything that wasn't theirs Unix.
Nolan Sanchez
Jesus christ. Why do so many of you have a hard on for GNU?
The only difference is how they choose to implement POSIX standards.. Other than that, they are interchangeable.
Parker Diaz
The difference is GNU is FOSS while Unix is not.
Juan Hall
>so many of you It's like two people, one of whom is RMS.
Charles Martinez
I have a laptop that isn't graphically compatible with Linux. I need to install Ubuntu on it, but the regular installer is totally unusable because the graphics don't work properly. How do I install in text mode? I can't believe it's not an option.
Lincoln Gonzalez
Download ubuntu mini. It has a text user interface
Owen Brown
I already did that, and it went right to the GUI. I am pissed.
Chase Scott
Nigga Arch is your savior then.
Isaac Rodriguez
Arch is gay.
Leo Young
You are gay
Aiden Harris
>tfw the first distro i ever installed was calculate linux i feel like a pro it just werks out of the box
Jason Campbell
>calculate linux kek good choice actually
Jackson Hill
hey Cred Forums, can you recommend me a lightweight distro for daily use?
James Sanders
I'm wondering when the first user asks for a bloated distro for use only on weekends.
arch, debian
Jackson Sullivan
screenshot for proof
Jacob Myers
>hey Cred Forums
Asher Gomez
Gentoo, not even memeing, go take a look at their website, they have a very noob-friendly handbook that makes it a breeze to install it
Gabriel Myers
lubuntu you nigger
Jayden Morgan
why
William James
>arch
Adrian Howard
rude
William Walker
Why does this landwhale get so offended with Arch?
Mason Foster
i know, it looks better when you're using it though
Thomas Bailey
I have a low opinion of Gentoo GNU/Linux.
Christian Perez
my advice for more vertical space: - install the Htitle extension to hide the Firefox titlebar when its maximized like on Windows - Hide the bookmarks bar and add a bookmarks button to the primary toolbar
Oliver Taylor
Is it 1998?
Jordan Gonzalez
Using a kernel does absolutely NOTHING to support Free or Open software.
Either you write code or you donate money. Users don't mean shit unless the come across with cash. The idea Gnazis that if you use a thing you support the thing is illogical. I torrent AutoCAD so I don't have to pay for it. I deal with software that disrespects my "freedom" (the internet is a DARPA surveillance botnet) by not paying for it.
Your pedantry bores me. If you really fucking support Free and Open software, why are you here instead of writing code or donating to those who do?
Gnautists are the OS equivalent of the Anal Avenger in /gif/. You should just admit it's a fetish. Fetishes are fine. Hypocrisy less fine.
Henry Roberts
isn't using it a way of supporting it
Noah Nelson
It is. Nice useful distro.
Nolan Long
>Virtualbox seamless mode (Just works) or WINE (Native performance)
These. I suggest both. Libreoffice is nice but not an absolutely precise form and fit replacement for Office.
No need to pay for Office. I torrent well-reviewed builds and activators. Nothing escapes my VM since it's not networked.
Dominic Allen
>I have a laptop that isn't graphically compatible with Linux
Posting make and specific model might lead to someone who got it working.
An easy metho is toss your hard disk in something else and do the install there. If you use a faster PC your install goes quicker too.
Ian Sullivan
>isn't using it a way of supporting it
Austin Cox
wrong wrong wrong
Aiden Jones
I'm trying to make a bootable Arch USB on a Mac but dd shat the bed on me and tells me bs=1M is an invalid argument even though I've used the same command on the same USB with the same ISO before. Can I make a bootable USB in a VM or something like that?
Blake Lewis
Is there a way to make caja show folder thumbnails, like windows does with folders which have images/videos inside?
Juan Morgan
dd if=iso of=usb
Chase Carter
The correct command according to the Arch wiki is "# dd if=image.iso of=/dev/rdisk2 bs=1M" which I've usef multiple times before and it's worked, but it hust shat the bed out of the blue now.
Hunter Roberts
And i am telling you to run above command.
Connor Gonzalez
you could try rufus
Jeremiah Mitchell
(reposting from /sqt/) I just installed GalliumOS (Xubuntu based) on my Chromebook. Bluetooth is always turned on when I first boot up my device, is there any way to make sure bluetooth is turned off by default so I don't have to turn it off every time it boots up?
Adam Richardson
Rufus isn't on OSX and I only have Windows on a VM right now
Matthew Edwards
>Hypocrisy Save this word for yourself the next time you bully winbabbies, cuck.
Lincoln Adams
figure out if you were using dd correctly if not just download rufus through the windows virtual machine.
Jack Nelson
Why are some linux people so elitist and cancerous? To the extent that you even need to explicitly request the thread visitors to be friendly.
Cameron Phillips
Should I install Arch or Manjaro?
Jackson Flores
Like any niche community, there's always going to be people attracted to it simply for the elitism. Besides like Android, Linux isn't very accessible to the general public. Elitists see that as a way to differentiate themselves from the common sheep.
Anthony Peterson
>The correct command according to the Arch wiki The Arch Wiki is full of "I heard it works like this" crap. Most stuff is fine, but sometimes I'm asking myself what the hell I'm reading. tl;dr don't take the wiki 100% serious. Read the manpages instead.
caja is a fork of nautilus, and both of them can't do this
Benjamin Jones
Reeeeeeeeeee
Why does openstack take so long to install... Its been like half an hour
Xavier Cox
arch with arch-anywhere
Julian Gonzalez
any recommendations?
Charles Ward
I need help.
I just installed Debian Jessie with LXDE and personalized it (some GTK, Openbox, icon themes. Nothing fancy) and installed the regular software from the Debian Stable repository.
Then I rebooted and this shit happened. Lightdm doesn't start. X doesn't start. The terminal just prints that and stays like that indefinitely.
I can start X with startx, but it's not the session I changed, has root privileges and it's honestly too cumbersome to do that every time I restart.
>tl;dr, pls help me un-fuck my Debian install. ;-;
Camden Brooks
it will copy 512 bytes at a time, which is the default blocksize
Eli Wilson
Is there anything similar to Foobar for Linux? Banshee to me feels like a clusterfuck.
Carson Ward
deadbeef
Jonathan Garcia
why do so few people here use sabayon?
Adam Clark
sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm?
Lucas Price
cool kids only use what the other cool kids are using: arch lunix
Tyler Lee
>imply arch is cool Arch is vanilla, Guixd is cool.
Bentley Robinson
was arch always the premiere Cred Forums distro?
Luke Martinez
they think it will keep the idiots away but instead we get a million Hey Cred Forums, arch (something broken or not working) questions
John Young
I'm such a retard. That was it. Apparently I uninstalled a lightdm dependency.
Thanks!
Charles Roberts
I guess the reason why Arch is popular is simply the AUR. Even a debqueen like me likes to check packagebuild files sometimes.
Brandon Rogers
why?
Thomas Foster
pgkbuild file are tl;dr install manuals
Jacob Adams
Happy hacking.
Joshua Lopez
It works fine functionally, it's widely adopted, and it's free/open source software. The issues people have with it have to do with its design, growth, and large influence.
Dear /fg+lt/ I accidentally my filesystem when setting up dual boot for Arch linux. I need to move / from one partition (ext4) to another (switching to btrfs). They are allocated and I know it should be easy to move them but I REALLY don't want to fuck anything up so could anyone here direct me exactly what I need to do to 1) copy files over 2) make linux boot into the new partition 3) keep my /home partition intact
Christian Rivera
It' easier to reinstall on the new partition. You procedure you are going to do is basically the installation but download and some configuration.
Carter James
...
Jaxon Walker
How can I make an own VPN service?
I am going to a third world country for a few weeks. I am willing to contact an ISP and set up my server in a rented locker. The traffic has to be encrypted
Josiah Barnes
Quick question for you guys. It's about permissions.
I have a home server that streams audio over http to a pi via mpd.I can control the server's playlist with an MPD app on my phone, stream it from any device, and even have some janky php on the server's apache2 server to control playback a bit. It only has one problem: Permissions.
Right now I have a folder with the path "/library" which stores all my media, and "/library/music" which holds music. I was never very good with permissions so the workflow for adding music to the server is to torrent it on my device, ftp it over to the server, and then "chmod -R 777 /library".
Given that I don't give a shit about security, how do I avoid this last step? All I want to do is give permissions to all users (or even just mpd) to the /library directory recursively, but also keep these permissions for anything that is transfered into it. If you don't have an answer please point me to someplace I could learn.
Thanks in advance Cred Forumsentoomen
David Thompson
do you want to do this on bare metal with your own hardware?
doing it isnt hard, hypothetically you could even do it from your house if you do a dynamic DNS and are careful with your networking.
Xavier Morris
Yes, I have a spare workstation
Liam King
What I basically want to do is - I'll set up an actual server (proxy? VPN?) there and connect to the internet via that server.
Aiden Thompson
Okay, I managed to install Ubuntu, but now it refuses to load my desktop after I log in.
Zachary Murphy
having a spare workstation is kinda not the point im getting at. the point is, are you so paranoid that you wouldnt host it at digital ocean or rackspace for $5-10 /mo?
do you plan to put a 1u in someone else's datacenter...
would you be technically savy enough to put it on a router, rather than dedicating a computer.
would you be willing to spend $50 on a lan turtle?
Christopher Brooks
bump
Dylan Scott
You will need to give bit more detail than that if you want help.
Caleb Hernandez
What are you using openstack for?
Austin Cox
Well, just run mpd with root privs?
Elijah Evans
MPD is configured to be its own user. Surely there's some way to set a folder to allow any newly added files to that folder to inherit the permissions? I couldn't find anything when googling around.
Here's the /etc/init.d/mpd file that it calls when starting up. Perhaps I need to edit line 55?
Sorry for being so clueless; I just don't really know what I'm doing with chown or chmod, especially in service files.
Jason Price
forgot pic
Jordan Hill
Can't you set your download folder to be part of a group with users of that group allowed to access, and add mpd user the same group.
Cameron Torres
THANKS, NOW I'M BLIND
Brayden Reed
are you doing devstack?
when openstack installs it talks to a lot of different git repos and I'm pretty sure most of the work has to be done sequentially.
openstack and other philisophically similar pieces of software like mesos/marathon are really in their infancy, as such, they are about as commoditized as minicomputers from the 60's and 70's.
Jacob Phillips
ironically, this particular highlighting scheme looks like it was designed for someone with colorblidnness.
Jonathan Mitchell
I want to install Arch but I'm too lazy / dumb to do it manually. What is the best install script/installer? Architect?
Jason Campbell
why do you want arch?
Nathaniel Gomez
Install Ubuntu, run screenfetch -D arch, PROFIT.
Daniel Jones
I need help guys.
I've been using Debian w/i3 for almost a year now with zero problems, and just this night something extremely fucking weird happened to me and I have no idea what it could be.
I was working as usual on nothing too heavy, when all of a sudden the screen started going black by stripes, going from the top down, just scrolling black horizontal bars from left to right, until it only left the bottom right of my screen revealed, and some colored dots in the blackness of my bottom left screen.
What the fuck was that? It legit creeped me out so much I hit the reset button right away. Computer was unresponsive and everything. Mouse was jittery.
Please non-meme responses. How can I troubleshoot this? What the hell was that? I don't think it was overheating or my GPU dying because my temperatures are a-okay at 40 celsius. It hasn't happened again.
but just install arch yourself so you get to know how to fix problems if they arise
Owen Edwards
Thank you for the useful answer.
Jace Martinez
>posting the stallman with a tomato nose
Luis Bell
Think I figured it out. I uncommented the "localumask=022" line in /etc/vsftpd.conf. Tested and works.
why are the easiest fixes so easy... Lost a hour or two of sleep because of this shit. At least i learned something
Noah Lee
So I installed Ubuntu MATE as my first Linux OS, and I accidentally removed a startup program (network something, I have no idea), and then the wifi bar indicator wouldn't show up unless I started it manually. Everything I tried failed, so I just decided to reinstall. BUT going with the "Eras Ubuntu and reinstall" option saved my home partition, so the program is still gone from startup. So I tried just making new partition tables entirely, and it still saved my home directory.
So how the hell do I completely fresh reinstall of Ubuntu? I'm so lost.
Elijah Ross
Sounds like a definite case of spooky ghosts.
Josiah Cooper
Anyone ever install OBS (open broadcaster) on debian? This shit is wack. (ffmpeg is installed correctly)
Jaxson Clark
I deleted Xorgconf, reinstalled Unity and Ubuntu Desktop, and it still won't show the desktop. It showed it before I installed the proprietary NVIDIA graphics drivers, but it was totally gimped and almost unusable. The log in screen is great, but it refuses to load my desktop.
This laptop is an HP Pavilion dv6500 from 2010.
Jack Cooper
How do I set default font?
For example I want to use dejavu
Austin Jones
what is THE best browser for Gentoo?
Elijah Cooper
>shit is wack Which means? We dont speak nigger
Cameron Nelson
it means I can't get it to work, I think I've installed it correct but the commands that should open it don't work. It doesn't have a nice clean install for debian and you need to compile it yourself. It's step by step instructions but the commands won't work. I fixed a make error 2 earlier today with permissions but it didnt work this time
I want to program my motherboard's bios chip that got wiped,and i started ways to look to reprogram it with the bios from the manufacture's website,so i cruised aliexpress and the kits use windows programs.Is there a way to do it on gnu/linux or will i have to be forced into windows using a chink program
Michael Stewart
I took that distro chooser quiz (with a grain of salt - I can see why people wouldn't like it) and, along with a lot of the distros I expected to see, Mageia was pretty high on the list. Considering the site has fuckall for an explanation, what does Mageis have to offer that makes it a worthy choice? Does anything about it make it stand out?
So far I've found myself just sticking to Kubuntu and Neon (and openSUSE for a few days - I kinda have a thing for KDE.) but the quiz did offer some interesting choices.
Gabriel James
if you just want simple and functional use ubuntu or kubuntu (if kde is your thing).
If you are really curious about *nix, install everything, working through problems with different distros will teach you a lot, and it will carry over to your next experiment.
Caleb Gomez
I added a couple of Directory Menus to a panel in Xfce. By default, they point to my home directory. I tried changing the displayed location through right-click, Properties... but it isn't accepting the modification. Where do I find the file that controls this behaviour to edit the properties there?
Mason Richardson
Mageia is quite nice. Sorry for not answering your question directly, but just to say I've used is a daily for a few months and found it to be a fairly well-polished distro, just werks out of the box. Can't think of any standout features, but I consider it a fair alternative to openSUSE for a stable & functional distro that lets you get on with your work (if you have any...).
Nathan Smith
I've just been playing with various enterprise virtualization platforms, tried ovirt before hand and it was an equal pain in the ass.
After working through about 20 errors with openstack, I wiped and went back go my old faithful, proxmox.
I have 4 raspberry pi's and I want to set up a VDI environment and have thin clients around the house. I've yet to find anything that's practical for this sadly.
William Bailey
I might be looking at xenserver myself.
reading smartos docs now
Wyatt Perez
this. Thanks to that, people look up to me like I'm a real Arch user. I swear, I never thought it was possible to catch this many bitches.
Christian Martinez
There's flexVDI and KVM-VDI that are pretty awesome projects too.
I tried xenserver, I can't really are the point in it tbqh unless you buy into the enterprise stuff.
Samuel Morgan
I havent got very far into xenserver desu.
What is lacking in the community version?
Isaac Sanchez
I occupy this weird space where I "get" a lot of the concepts behind Linux and what most distros have to offer, but I have barely any experience actually doing any of that stuff. I probably could install Arch or Gentoo if I wanted to - I just don't want to.
This is more what I was after. Mageia is one of the distros which I've heard of...and that's it. No clue as to its offerings. Sounds nice enough, though. >(if you have any...) Um...nothing specifically tech related, at least.
Cameron Sullivan
Okay, so I am able to get GNOME to boot, but Unity refuses to go to my desktop. Now I'm getting an "internal error." It must be a bad install.
Jeremiah Gomez
>I occupy this weird space where I "get" a lot of the concepts behind Linux and what most distros have to offer, but I have barely any experience actually doing any of that stuff.
The question is do you want to learn more, or do you want to use it as a daily driver, a dependable work environment.
if you want to learn more, but you dont want to do arch/gentoo because of stigma, thats not a good reason. If you want something that just works, it is a good reason.
Never tried arch, Gentoo was a lot of arbitrary compiling. I probably learned the most going through OpenBSD/FreeBSD, and slackware tho. Maybe just try pushing yourself into trying to set up a fileserver or webserver on your lan
Chase Hernandez
You're a pinheaded fag that doesn't actually know anything about computers.
smartos does look good, looks like it came out of joyent, so that's promising.
but the community / docs look pretty sparse beyond the official documentation.
but its got zfs, a salt driver and a web api / client.
not sure if you can do rdp to the guests out of the box, but it looks good to me.
Elijah Morris
There is some kind of VNC server out of the box.
so this is probably going to be my weekend gg
Bentley Clark
who /technician/ here? I'm going to spend today building a persistent bootable rescue usb, similar to hirens.
Has anyone done this before? Advice? I'd also love tool recommendations, if you have any.
Carter Brooks
>The question is do you want to learn more, or do you want to use it as a daily driver, a dependable work environment.
That's not remotely what the question was. It was whether Mageia had something to it which one would find particularly useful. I appreciate the eagerness to help, but I know where I am on my path and where I intend to go.
I know the clicky thing makes the little arrow move around on the magical rectangle.
Ryder Brooks
>That's not remotely what the question was. It was whether Mageia had something to it which one would find particularly useful. I appreciate the eagerness to help, but I know where I am on my path and where I intend to go.
you cant even explain what your use case is, so how can anyone suggest whether or not its going to be useful.
the tl;dr answer is - probably not my tl;dr editorial - you really dont seem to
I uninstalled LightDM, so now my laptop loads directly into a black terminal Log-in prompt and then I copy/pasted a conditional from the internet to my .bashrc file along the lines of "if DISPLAY is active then startx" and it works.
What do you think of this? It seems to be the lightest possible log-in solution. Why waste time/resources having a GUI log-in screen?
Liam Martinez
What even is this program? Why do you want ffplay ove mpv? Anyway, I guess you replace mpv with ffplay -nodisp
like let's say i have 5 files, file1, file2 etc.. i have two usergroups. i want usergroup1 to access file1 file2 file3 and usergroup2 to access file3 file4 file5.. aaand i'm fucked because file can only have one group.. so yeah i can create separate group for jsut file3 but that is fucking retarded, and what if several users are in group1 and i create group3 for file 3 so i can put my user20 into group3 because i only want him to have access to file 3, but then user1 and user2 are fucked because the file 3 is no longer in usergroup1.. so i would have to add user1 and user2 to the group3 after the fact and it's jsut beyond fucking complicated and retarded... what the fuck linux? do you have any idea how easy is this shit to set up on Windows? The difference is abysmal and this is jsut basic access rights shit too
Bentley Robinson
you don't need persistency for repair recovery sticks son
Hudson White
Could you explain me what exactly is the difference between the windows managers?
What changes between marco (no compositor, software compositor, compton) and which one is ideal to use?
Anthony Rodriguez
I think my SSD (Intel 530 120GB) sucks major dick. What's the proper way to benchmark it, something more informative than dd?
Michael Long
It's a program that literally manages windows: where to draw them, workspaces, decorations, etc. Pick the one you like, you can even use them standalone without the bulky desktop environment.
Asher Smith
Yes but I don't see an immediate obvious difference for example between marco software compositor and compton. Whereas compiz is much fancier
Elijah Gomez
What the fuck do you answer to people asking you "hey user, can i watch movies on your so called linux"
Ethan Young
Compton isn't a WM like compiz is. Compton is usually used to add shadows and blend transitions and small fluff like that, or to fix VSYNC.
Elijah Barnes
>Who are you, how did you find my lair and why should I not rip your souls from your mortal flesh right now, maggot?!
Owen Powell
Ok thanks
Blake Wilson
because this is the Friendly thread. Go make an asshole gnu/linux thread
Christian Baker
What is the best linux distro? I don't feel the need for distro hopping so I'd like to know the best so I can go on with my life.
Noah Barnes
Gentoo
Nathaniel Cox
So how well does windows handle ext4 Vs Linux with ntfs?
In particular I have some software that doesn't have an option to change the database location, so it needs to share an install folder. I'm wondering which is the more reliable way of handling this, since I know ntfs is slower in linux b
Landon Turner
I'd just like to interject ...
Landon Perez
Xubuntu LTS
John Ward
If this is your first distro: Ubuntu, don't fall for Mint, else Debian, don't fall for Arch.
Ryan Turner
I will rephrase my question -- how do i politely say that questions like this is incorrect and person asking the question is tech illiterate.
Isaiah Thomas
just install arch fagget
Landon Diaz
I'm having a weird problem, I'm trying to create a bootable Arch USB, which I've had no problems doing before, but now it only writes a partition that's about 40 MB big. I've used both dd on OSX and Rufus and USBWriter on Windows but it's not working. Anybody have any idea what's going on?
Luke Mitchell
There is none. It's easy to install a new distro anyways and get everything you need. (keep a list of things you like, write a bash script, run it, and enjoy)
I'm partial to any Ubuntu flavor that isn't main Ubuntu but I found myself frustrated and went to arch. I'm now on Manjaro.
If laptop, xubuntu or Ubuntu MATE. If desktop, maybe kubuntu.
Angel Sanchez
I have a PC and a laptop, and I can use SSH over LAN. How would I go about setting it up so I can bring the laptop to uni (or anywhere really), connect to wifi there and SSH into the PC which is sitting at home?
James Cook
The one I'm using.
Wyatt Rogers
Just installed Ubuntu and it was working fine, but now suddenly the mouse stopped working. The pointer just doesn't move. Any clues how to fix this? Any logs that I can check for what's going on?
Angel Peterson
Is it plugged into a USB? Does your keyboard work?
Christopher Richardson
Check for heartbeat, if dead, throw away.
Owen Nelson
Keyboard works Mouse works on windows and UEFI
Austin Barnes
what is the best lightweight distro for daily use?
Eli Hernandez
Oh well no idea then. I was gonna say if it's a USB mouse it might be an IOMMU option you needed to tick in your bios but if the keyboard is USB I'm out of ideas. Maybe open a terminal, type lspci -v and look for the mouse and see if it was claimed by a driver.
Landon Howard
Lubuntu
Josiah Torres
The one this guy is using:
Thomas Richardson
samefag
Michael Diaz
The same one you would use at the weekends.
Hunter Bell
This thread is nothing but satire. ;_;
William Brooks
Okay, this is weird, I flashed a Ubuntu ISO and then the Arch ISO and now it works.
New question, does Kubuntu run fine on a Macbook Pro with 4 GB RAM and an i5-2435m processor?
Bentley Fisher
How badly does libreboot affect the battery life of an X200?
Adrian Rodriguez
Has anybody tried using Linux without a desktop environment? You just boot into a terminal and when need to use GUI stuff, you launch it in X?
James Richardson
some are just curious. Why go @ them if they just want to know.
Jaxson Jones
Yes people have and do.
Jonathan Lee
are you an autistic retard? x was invented for a reason, because it makes everything 10 times faster to do even headless server are managed via remote x sessions
Michael Miller
>even headless server are managed via remote x sessions lolno
Evan Garcia
Since installing Arch is a pain in the ass on Macbooks, can I install something like Ubuntu instead and replace the Ubuntu installation with Arch through there?
Can't be more difficult than what I'm trying to do now, I'll give it a shot
Jason Bennett
Linux 4.7 gives me OOM issues, so I tried switching to mainline (yes i know 4.8 will be out in a week). Also, I'm testing out Ccache, a utility for speeding up recompilations. AUR package compiled fine the first time, but every time I tried to compile it again (to test out Ccache) it failed with the following error: DESCEND objtool CC /home/user/.cache/pacaur/linux-mainline/src/linux-4.7/tools/objtool/fixdep.o cat: /home/user/.cache/pacaur/linux-mainline/src/linux-4.7/tools/objtool/.fixdep.o.d: No such file or directory make[4]: *** [/home/user/.cache/pacaur/linux-mainline/src/linux-4.7/tools/build/Makefile.build:78: /home/bus/.cache/pacaur/linux-mainline/src/linux-4.7/tools/objtool/fixdep.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** [Makefile:36: /home/user/.cache/pacaur/linux-mainline/src/linux-4.7/tools/objtool/fixdep-in.o] Error 2 make[2]: *** [/home/user/.cache/pacaur/linux-mainline/src/linux-4.7/tools/build/Makefile.include:7: fixdep] Error 2 make[1]: *** [Makefile:60: objtool] Error 2 make: *** [Makefile:1595: tools/objtool] Error 2 ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in prepare(). Aborting... :: failed to build linux-mainline,linux-mainline-headers package(s)
what do? Disabling Ccache in makepkg.conf doesn't fix anything.
Jaxon Young
Post your CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/LDFLAGS from /etc/makepkg.conf
Since Lenovo hates GNU/Linux nowadays, is Dell xps the best modern laptop for GNU/Linux?
Jeremiah Gomez
Probably. Don't they sell XPS 13s with Ubuntu?
Carter Evans
What other distros other than Arch uses rolling release? I want to start dual booting Linux and I prefer rolling release but I've only managed to get Arch running in a VM.
Christopher Torres
>Hacking >gain unauthorized access to data in a system or computer. Tell me, are you really that retarded?
Chase Nguyen
Reinstall Ubuntu and choose the option 'something else'. When the partitions come, choose the partition that you created from windows. It will say 'ubuntu whatever' and be the size you created.
Change it to. -Use as et4 journaling file system -check format the partition -mount point / -install
That's it. Don't touch any other partitions.
Michael Ortiz
If you're not dual-booting, you can select "Erase entire disk and install ubuntu."
Justin Wright
>boring day >install gentoo >setup vm >not enough space >raise to 10gb >not enough space >raise to 20gb >not enough space >raise to 50gb >not enough space And you tell me gentoo isnt bloated? Cant even stage3
Jayden Moore
why should I install fedora?
Hunter Johnson
PEBKAC
Levi Green
it just works
Benjamin Brown
If you don't have a reason to, you shouldn't.
essentially, the first question should be: "What do I want to do with my life?", and then start asking questions to find out which OS confirms to that lifestyle.
You might end up with Fedora, you might end up with AIX. Who knows?
Aaron Perez
I'm not going to buy a 6tb drive just for stage 3 BLOAT
Jace Torres
Off the top of my head, OpenIndiana, TrueOS (formerly PCBSD), Gentoo and Debian. Why is that a factor for you
Brody Gray
My stomach actually turned
Levi Butler
Ubuntu, then install Openbox as the DE
Austin Gutierrez
>-mtune=generic Not related to your problem but why on earth would you choose generic?
Connor Barnes
Did you clean before trying to recompile? Clean the build source and delete the cache. Something else that comes to mind is did you do 'make oldconfig' when to switched kernels?
Easton Bell
You're a retard, 20gb is more than enough, heck I've had installs of 12gb.
Jackson Clark
I don't know what any of that means besides -march and -O2. I'll just change both -march and -mtune to native, does that sound good?
I wiped the whole ~/.cache/pacaur several times and all those times I got the same error.
>did you do 'make oldconfig' Nope. The only thing I did was install the AUR package.
Daniel Lee
You're full of shit I LITERALLY just attempted to install it. 10>20>50 "NO SPACE LEFT ON DEVICE" one partition no fancy shit install-amd64-minimal-20160811.iso
Brayden Davis
There is no "best X for distribution". Kill yourself.
Ethan Jenkins
>I'll just change both -march and -mtune to native, does that sound good? Yes, native should pick up your hardware. I wouldn't do too much in changing those options but that's definitely one that you should tailor to your computer.
>Nope. The only thing I did was install the AUR package. I'm not familiar with using AUR with kernels but if you're using the same config between two different kernels you need to make oldconfig so that any new or removed features are set properly.
Well the problem is you then, plenty of people can manage it. You fucked up somewhere.
Jason Allen
Why do you need someone to approve of your decision? ARe you that insecure?
Jeremiah Sanchez
Really though I think you need to eliminate ccache first. Post the errors after you have got rid of that and then we can see what's going on.
Jace Evans
Why? There is absolutely no reason to use just the text console and waste time starting up and shutting down X every time you start a GUI program. Having X running and using a terminal emulator from within is the sane choice. Unless you're a try-hard, retarded show off who wants to brag online that he intentionally inconveniences himself just to appear l33t.
Joshua Harris
You're an idiot and that's the most retarded thing you could have done. First of all, installing Arch on a Macbook isn't any harder from other laptops. Secondly, installing Ubuntu first won't make it any easier for you and it's so stupid that I can't even think of an appropriately stupid analogy to compare it to.
Michael Adams
>almost every word and letter are differently colored You people don't get the point of color schemes, do you?
Samuel Perry
Huh, fully wiping ccache fixed the problem. Turns out just disabling it in makepkg.conf doesn't quite do the trick. Thanks.
Grayson Sullivan
Cool, glad you fixed it. If you take out all the stuff you know you don't need in the menuconfig then the kernel shouldn't take you very long to compile, even without ccache.
Jacob Peterson
No particular reason, I just like bleeding edge
Owen Rivera
>The Arch wiki has an entire separate page for Macbooks >I-it isn't harder! You're just an idiot!
Sure m8
Ethan Gray
Any kind user can help me? I need more fine grained access stuff set for my files so i tried to use acl but it is not working i did this command sudo setfacl -m u:dona:r sf_Dump but it says Operation not supported I am running the buntu 16.04 server
Wyatt Turner
I'm going to upgrade my laptop soon and I want to get a Lenovo Yoga to dual boot Linux and Windows, but is it ttue that you literally can't install Linux on them because of the hard drive configuration?
Jayden Murphy
Are there any reasons to use Arch instead of eg. Ubuntu?
David Howard
>you cant even explain what your use case is, so how can anyone suggest whether or not its going to be useful.
managed to answer my question perfectly. I wasn't asking people to read my mind; I was simply asking if Mageia brought anything special to the table.
Josiah Brooks
New >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Jacob Turner
It also has a page for Thinkpads, Latitudes and other specific laptops.