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>China
fug

Its only going to get bigger

Thoughts?

>percentage change

China in 2008 was already the 2/3rd biggest economy.

$4.5 trillion.

Japan should shrink, as is it's too crowded.

It'd be sad if japan start letting foreign scum in just to make their already too large for their island population bigger

China accounted for 45% of absolute world economic growth 2008-2015.
This doesn't include HK/Macau.

i thought asians were smart -_-

Only maybe 20% of Japan's growth problems are population.

In 10 years it'll be 50% though.

Smart != working your people into extinction

Their population is getting older. They have one of the lowest fertility rates in the world and I read that 40% of Japanese people under 35 are virgins

Don't you already know that japan's population is shrinking?
Thanks to otaku habits and overworked men, people dont want to raise families as much

Yes and importing third-worlders won't change that.

GDP growth isn't what matters.
Living standards is.

Young adult population is shrinkIng*, but growth smaller

t. NEET 2ch

Its not crowded though.
People just like living in cities over there.

A person is smart.

and that is declining over time too.
You need money to get living standards.

Japan's GDP per capita growth has been higher than America's since 2000.

Japan's problems are not population. They are productivity and their LDP government.

>because Japanese yen has depreciated

to revive Japan's economy,

1. sell high tech toilets to sharter American and public poohper Chinese
2. stop Official Development Aid to China
3. sell 1.15 Trillion USD US bond we have

>sell 1.15 Trillion USD US bond we have
To sell it all at once, you'd have to sell below market value, which means Japan is losing money.

>>because Japanese yen has depreciated

Actually no.
tradingeconomics.com/japan/gdp-constant-prices

This is in inflation-adjusted yen

Nope. The dollar GDP looks like this

you owe us too much
we don't need to keep sharter's debt

small like benis haha

ITT : user who dont understand that POPULATION GROWTH = GDP GROWTH. If you inject X people into an economy, it is going to grow but at what expense? China is only 'growth' story in the chart.

Racial demographic suicide, through mass immigration to replace native peoples, to increase GDP at a neverending rate, at the expense of a smaller per capita GDP, is strictly an ideal that has been brainwashed into the West by Jewish elitists (which doesnt include Israel who dont take in any people who arent Jewish).

Economically shrinking does no good to no one.

GDP is a flow variable, meaning that's how much the country produced in that period (year, usually). If it's a negative percentage it means it grew less than the period before it.
You're probably thinking of GDP as a stock if you're saying Japan should shrink.

and the US changed the method to estimate GDP in 2013 to make it look better kek
China and the US keep inventing new inflation method every year, how trust worthy lol

>It's an East Asian doesn't understand economics episode

spending too much for capturing foreign criminals desu

>US economy set for recession, warns top economist
>7 Signs of a U.S. Economic Collapse in 2016 - Profit Confidential 2016/09/13
hihi US stronk desu!
Japan and China can demolish ur economy immediately if both cunts sell u sharter's junk bond

japan is over
just let it die

またこの池沼猿ウヨが暴れてるよ
日本の恥さらし

If that's the case, then why haven't China and Japan done that yet?

fucking wh*te monkeys

tokyo is over crowded, the rest of the country isn't. There are places with a much higher population density than Japan

nobody believes China's GDP

>redneck ignorant of economics episode

>increase GDP at a neverending rate, at the expense of a smaller per capita GDP
Was nobodies goal, ever.

Okay user.

The fact is that Koizuminomics/Abenomics/Kuroda/Mazaki aren't going to change the fact your businesses and government cannot fix the economy.

bloombergquint.com/onweb/2016/09/20/big-data-lens-on-china-s-economy-mostly-affirms-official-stats

Not really.
What's the point of a developing country that doesn't grow?

Zhang Xi, glorious China forever!

>Chinese Officials Admit They Faked Economic Figures - Fortune
>The country (China) that tricked the world - The Washington Post
>China's GDP Data Shows a Very Predictable Pattern - Bloomberg
>Chinese GDP a case of 'fake it 'til you make it' - Telegraph

i bet you if obama were white he'd be praised all the way to valhalla
why is it so hard for americans to admit he's a great, or at least good, president?

How has china doubled in 8 years? that's some serious bullshit

China's population hasn't increased by 120% over that time. They are a developing economy.
Nobody ever has wanted to raise National GDP and lower GDP per capita when people get old without having enough kids there is nobody to tax amd the whole country suffers.

china flops slowly. their economy systems make bubbles. finally they will be soviet union though chinese hype.

I honestly enjoy seeing your butthurt when confronted with facts, data, and statistics.

I always knew you 2nd rate gooks were insecure about China's rise. kek

Scared of the dragon reclaiming their mantle after being dormant, eh?

And they always think if you acknowledge China's rise, you must be Chinese.

Or they claim "muh bubble""Muh fake statistics""Muh population growth"

"American" Xu, how come you are so mad when Chinese tricks are reported by the US news agencies LOL!

china have 1 billion poors. how can they fix it? they can't. china comunism party just pressing them to work as a slave.

China could be absolute shit for all I care. You are all gooks to me.

Either way, Japan has been stagnant for decades. Depression is all over. Suicide happens all the time. Real wages have fallen 4 years straight. Birth rates are 1.3-1.4.

Japan is literally the definition of a stagnant and dying country.

>Scared of the dragon reclaiming their mantle
>illegal immigrants from mainland China

yes, army of Chinese whores have been invading Japan and thriving desu

猿ウヨの火病

It's even funnier when you realize that the gook and nip countries both went from $1k-$8k gdp per capita in the same time that China did: 9 to 11 years.

Don't know why they're so skeptical when their own countries did the same impressive economic growth, probably just feelings of insecurity.

China could be a complete shithole for all I care.

It's just hilarious seeing other Asians cry and ignore reality when a new superpower is forming.

This is just like when the Europeans were in a state of denial that America had superseded them.

But hey. I honestly don't care what is right and wrong.
All I know is that Japan is stagnant and that's why I made this thread. To ruin Weaboo dreams and to bring a dose of reality to your lives.

and, why the great chinese are always work in our country as a slave?

Kek

>tfw an army of chink whores are more attractive than 90% of nip girls on the streets

Do you really think you are bringing new information to the table? Everyone and their mothers know Japan has been stagnant since the 90s, it's even mentioned a lot in anime/manga

Same reason why you dumb Korean gyopo immigrate to USA.

$$$

They somehow think they are superior.

Seriously. Asians live in an 19th century mindset. Their societies are inherently backwards and they struggle to accept changes.

This is why you see continued dictatorial bullshit in South Korea, KMT fuckery in Taiwan, and LDP one-party-state in Japan.

They simply cannot imagine a different world.

And this is why they all have stagnated and are falling behind the USA.

Soon enough they'll die out.

I'm moving to China (ROC)
I see where the winds are blowing

oh that's your intention? well sorry.
japan is already dead. just let them dying.

r/ing the "Don't learn mandarin" pic

What?

I argue every fucking day with multiple weeb Latin Americans in spanish everyday in /lat/.

Furthermore, Cred Forums is fucking delusional.

Cred Forums is weeb central, and most of them have a completely slanted view of Japan.

>yokozuna level weeaboo

but we don't poop on street nor shart in Walmart

China is a massive shithole.
Half of their economy is a fucking bubble of ghost cities, toll roads nobody is going to use and reliant on devaluing their own currency so their slave labor can stay competitive. They are destroying their environment and food production on an unprecedented scale and their is no end in sight.
China's GDP should be three times what is is considering their population, and what good is GDP if most of your population is living full third world tier.
We have a high income equality but even our ghetto welfare people have it better than your average Chinamen.
That's why they have their million man there army to quell revolt but they are headed towards an inevitable collapse where we'll either see a massive change or massive Tiananmen Square.
Don't expect the mainstream media stock guys to write articles about it.
Anybody with a horse in the race wants to keep things peachy looking so they can pull out before everyone else.

Yes. I don't care if China is about to implode or become the next superpower.

All I wanted to do was to show Japan's failures.

Also, I really dislike Abe and his memenomics. It's like watching a circus of liars convincing the Japanese sheep to shoot themselves.

>I consider image macros on Cred Forums to be factual representations of reality

>professional Cred Forums user
>most of them have a completely slanted view of Japan

oh, you are just jelly
I luv you !

>China's GDP should be three times what is is considering their population

What?

Should Syria's GDP be 10 times larger even though they are in a massive civil war?

Nope, your people are very civilized, truth be told.

But it's funny to see your petty saltiness, kek.

>professional Cred Forums user

You mean "standard Cred Forums user".

I hope you open your eyes (if you can) for once and take a look at where your country is going.

>ghetto welfare people have it better than your average Chinamen.

For you poor rural and city folk yes but it's not much.

>your people are very civilized

Always a meme statement.

I think we all know who the real uncivilized culprit is.

why wouldn't I learn mandarin if I'm living there for a year or more?

>emphasizing "standard" user while he keeps making anti-Japan threads here and there

and you desperately neglect alleged GDP tricks reported by your news agencies, LOL

I luv Kun Pao chicken and Murican burgers so be nice to us kek!

I don't read this shit up. all we can see is whether China is under recession or not according to trade partner states exporting to China giving us trustworthy information.

Yeah with a massive as fuck population with most being rural it's not that unusual.

How is he a good president?
The only thing he's done here is enact some disastrous law where the working poor are forced to buy almost worthless insurance they can't afford.
He's gone against federal law to try and erase our southern border for the sake of gaining Hispanic votes and supplying businesses with illegal labor they don't have to pay taxes on or pay for insurance for.
He and Hilary rejected the democratically elected leader of Iraq and installed some puppet everyone hated which caused a civil war which is what created ISIS and other groups, who they then supplied with weapons and other support to fight Assad just because Assad is in Russia's pocket and not ours.
Other than that he pops up every now and then to give support and apologize for violent black thugs and Muslim terrorists.
The economy is limping along on life support, the average person is making less than ever and the real unemployment rate is ridiculous.
The next president is going to inherit a world of shit just like Bush did, who everyone likes to blame everything on but he wound up dealing with everything Clinton avoided. Clinton's big thing was NAFTA which was basically the "let the elite fuck the working class across North American" bill and is why so many poor Mexicans have fled here after their agriculture was ruined by NAFTA.

P O O

>Should Syria's GDP be 10 times larger even though they are in a massive civil war?

Is China is a civil war?
What I'm saying is, people rant and rave about how great China is but their whole system has kept them decades behind the rest of the civilized world and they are playing catch up but they haven't caught up by any means other than their overall GDP, which should be extremely high since they have the largest labor pool on earth combined with centralized planning.

葉わ、?

And Japan is in a 20% recession then?

Ethiopia is poorer, more rural, dumber, and African.
Yet it poos in the loo far more often than India.

SHART

>yet another butthurt amerishart&americhink desperately dwelling on how japan is shit on a JAPANESE ANIME IMAGEBOARD
how sweet

this

Dude.

They were in civil war 1850-1950.

Then they were fucking MAOIST until 1976.

Since then they have been the fastest growing economy on average. They have also outgrown all their peers. The pace of their development is significantly faster.

They are like Korea/Taiwan/Japan but 30-40 years behind.

Finally, how does having a lot of people help? China is a country that can barely stick together. Beijing literally struggles to control Guangdong or Jiangsu.

The fact they aren't like their peer India ($1000 per capita) is a massive achievement.

>dwelling

I didn't even want to talk to you.

I wanted to mindbreak some weebs.

>but it's not much.

Our shittiest dope-heads who ruin neighborhoods and never get anywhere because they don't take advantage of any of the help provided to them, which is a lot, still don't have to go out and catch frogs so they can eat. They don't have to go work as slaves in Arab and African countries just to survive.
Fucking Mexicans run in here with cowboy boots and the shirt on their backs get fake IDs and stolen social security numbers and they have a house and two cars within a few years.

>Exaggeration: The Post

yeah, and that's why they should thank great japan

>..What are nationalities you hate because of something 1 or a few of them did to you, for me it would be the Mexicans, japanese, and Lithuanians.
another quality thread by this murican OP LOL

I agree. China learned some good things from Japan.

Shame that you both don't get along.
If only you both could accept your pasts'.

Looks like he got japs and gooks mixed it up