Do you get the feeling your country is decaying ?

Do you get the feeling your country is decaying ?
I'm a history teacher, and it's getting hard to live with this feeling. Due to what I teach, I'm constantly reminded of a time when France was actually one of the most developed nation on earth. It's just so sad to see what it has become.

Simply speaking about my job, I realize every day the level at school has been dumbing down. Many families are in terrible situations and don't give a fuck about their kids, but the state and the administration don't do shit either. It's just incredible to see 12 years old barely able to write in french.
Another teacher told me we had to adapt ourselves to the level of our students, she's right, but used a terrible exemple claiming that if we had korean students in our classes they also wouldn't be able to understand anything and would cause trouble. Bad exemple since every asian students I had worked hard despite language barrier. The school principal simply shrug it off and said "we're not in Korea"

This is making me so fucking mad. Since when fench authorities decided the country couldn't compete with asian countries ?
Every fucking time I go to Japan, I feel France is a third world country. It's making me both sad and mad.

I'm not even talking about all the social tensions.

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Welcome to the club

Go teach at a private school if you want to see students applying themselves. Public schools are designed to match a student with a diploma, they aren't designed to make sure that the students know what they're doing

It's because your country is a socialist shit-hole. Socialism is the epitome of short-term gain, France started being socialist when they were ahead of most countries in terms of development etc. and believed they were doing fine because they were still ahead right?

Wrong, now France is fucked because socialism stunted the development of their nation and they're only now realizing they are falling behind, but it's already too late because French culture has been corrupted by socialism and all they do is eat baguettes and cheese all day.

When was the last time you heard meaningful research/technology come from France relative to the US, Japan, Germany even when adjusted on a per capita basis? France is shit and traded in their future for socialism, gj France keep laughing at American vacation days while your country sinks further and further into the third-world.

We're all headed towards USA or South Africa-mode. Racially segregated residential areas, zero social cohesion in society, no go areas...hope you guys are all saving up for a house in a nice gated community, living outside of it won't be too much fun in a few decades.

>The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
-Socrates (469–399 B.C.)

Capitalism is the epitome of very short term gain, usa created terrible things like segregation just to keep their power in the hands of the wasp, and is the worst exemple about social cohesion and teaching (where did I read that 19% of graduated students doesn't know how to read ?)

>what everyone in the history said about the next generation

The fact that you believe 19% of graduated students in the US can't read is further proof of France's decline.

This quote is fake, Socrates never said that.

The fact that you think 19% of graduated US students can't read is further proof of France's decline.

Weren't the French prone to revolts?
Has victory defeated you?

People always overestimate the impact of ideologies. The USA is currently the strongest country on earth not only due to capitalism, but also because they beat every potential rival and established a global empire in everything but name.

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Read and shut up. The us are way worse than France about education (and social cohesion, because that's the real problem)

The reason we beat Soviets is because of capitalism making our economy way bigger and the arms race collapsing their weak economy etc.

>Explanation to everything:
>It's because your country is a socialist shit-hole.

Ameriplops on this board never cease to impress with their juvenile doltishness :^)

Earlier today my dad burst into my room and began lamenting the terrible state of the world, he said he felt guilty because his generation ruined everything for younger generations

Although you may feel a certain way, DO NOT let it dictate your actions. Do one further and invest more energy. Needless to say, you're a teacher, your job is important.

I'm getting a bit of a "things used to be much better before" sentiment (I could be misinterpreting you) and I think it's definitely rooted in something, but I wouldn't waste a moment of my time dwelling on notions of some glorious past. It's an observation as old as society itself.

>When was the last time you heard meaningful research/technology come from France
CERN (although technically an int. partnership)
They're at the absolute forefront of nuclear research. Generation 2 reactors are right around the corner, and believe me when I say the first ones are going to be in France.
They're also one of the biggest contributors in ESA

There's lots of stuff happening, man

Irony lul

>muh country

i dont care about mine lol. you should do it too, stop worrying about everything

Said the country that added 10 trillion in debt the past 8 years and will begin cannibalizing itself starting 2017 to pay for public worker pensions, and 40% of the population lives on some form of government welfare, and runs the largest make work program in human history, the US military

Do you care about Erdogan?

It goes beyond that. Almost every country in Europe has been hit with socialism with one form or another and some have dealt with it better than others (except Mountain Jews who were smart and rich enough to never dabble into that mess).

In case of the French, it's their top-to-bottom culture and tendency for making stupid rules that has made them weak and uncompetetive.

How is that ironic?

You commented on the supposed destruction of France, and he replied with an observation about American posters.

If he had told you how horrible life in America was and how it was going to shit, now that would be ironic, but you know, he didn't.

i give absolutely 0 shits about my country. i just follow politics for memes

>huffpost

Huffpost is filled with self-hating liberals.

The difference is USA has lower taxes and options for those willing to seek good education.

True.

i fucking love france though. We need to make it the best country in the world again. Bring Europe to power

He criticized all 4-chan American posters for generalizing, that's ironic m8

>(I could be misinterpreting you)
A bit, but it's also the feeling everything is getting worse and worse every year. I'm more mad about the fact our government seem to have stop trying to fix things. Our political class is completly rotten.

>government seem to have stop trying to fix things

Most problems come from governments trying to fix things

no
I disagree a lot with current government but I am sure Poland will be able to rise above socialism and reclaim the position in the world she deserves

here we see the results of trying to have no class system

>reclaim the position in the world she deserves

A buffer for Russgol invasion?

Haven't czecked (subtile pun), but they are quoting the departement of education.
>options
Yes, and if you can't afford them, the us has plenty of misery to offer you.

Just vote FN my man
Tell the kids in your class to do as well btw

silence, future undermember of Visegrad Federation

FN are a bunch of clowns really.

only good thing about FN is the anti-immigration
they are garbage in every other aspect.

This is a terrible solution, in Mexico the middle class, even lower middle, abandoned public schools in masse and eventually this resulted in not just the lowering of education in the public system, with nothing but impoverished barely literate parents to demand changes, but in private schools as well as despite generally well rounded curriculums it doesn't take much to be above public school standards. We've had some isolated success cases, eg math wiz kids coming out of isolated indigenous comunities, but this has all been lone mavericks working hard, not the governent, individuals do make a difference.

No, it isn't, the French has fought and worked very hard for what they've got and America is hardly a model in terms of education, social sercices or the economy. Leaving aside the well publicized failures or relative comparisons to other countries Americans are far from doing as well as they could be and we all know this.

I have to echo what the Czech said: , but also remind you that, if it makes you feel any better, there are elections not too far away. I understand that Hollande's government has been a bit of a joke as far as efficiency goes and that the financial crisis was pretty harsh on you, but don't let that get in the way of a simple hope for better times. When looking at a lot of European nations, France is doing comparatively quite ok, economically speaking. TTIP will give the Western world a much-needed boost.

Teachers at uni always say that too, that every year students try less and less.
I'd blame the brain drain, but it's more than that, the moral decay is the source of all of this.

La république tombe pêh. C'est temps pour un roi dans france.

I don't think many things will change. Still, thank you trying to make me see the bright side.

>a time when France was actually one of the most developed nation on earth
I'd say it still is. The problems it's facing aren't exactly due to insufficient development as far as I can tell.
You should just realign and teach French so these little shits learn :^)
here they usually are
very difficult to justify in a truly democratic country (that's only reasonably corrupt)
now the situation definitely doesn't seem relaxed either but I haven't heard of anything more radical than Nuit Debout (is that still a thing?)
t. armchair psychologist
good on you for replying to the Amerishart in earnest; indeed there is
>she
don't ever refer to a country like in this way again
thanks
bit of a stretch desu lad