>Currently, abortion is only permitted in cases of rape or if the woman or foetus’ life is in danger. However, legislators have proposed restricting the laws further still to eliminate even these exceptions. Women who break the law could face up to five years in prison.
Thoughts?
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>muh catholic values
I think it's a good law. All Polish women should be thrown into jail.
Absolute ban on abortion is just plainly stupid. My gf would get raped by some cunt and she couldn't abort the bastard? Fuck off Poland with this one.
Is the girl in the pic polish?
Who cares? Let them protest, they will probably just make themselves look really dumb.
That's me
>abortion is only permitted in cases of rape or if the woman or foetus’ life is in danger
>foetus’ life is in danger
>abortion
Poland is a magical place
rape should only be allowed if the woman's life is in danger; if for some reason, be it rape or unpreparedness, she doesnt want her child, she should carry them to term and put them up for adoption
>russia
lol
It mean that it's permitted if fetus is damged and baby will be born as mutant
>super catholic country
>doesn't follow the Christian principle of compassion
>Doesn't accept refugees even not those in real need of help
Country of hypocrites.
well, legislators have shit in their heads wanting more abused or abandoned kids, the law is perfect like it is now.
>rape should only be allowed if the woman's life is in danger
russia is going to ban abortion too.
so we'll see more "happy" children in russia
According to Dutch law you can have an abortion as long as the baby cannot live outside of the womb of the mother.
This date isn't set, but most doctors assume it is 24 weeks. But as medical advances continue the time you can have an abortion decreases. Many doctors will only allow it within 21 weeks.
Polacks have the same mentality than Arabs.
why is this a bad thing?
we least we will exist in the future
But you have to go to a doctor. And then they have to give you a period of 5 days to rethink your decision.
>Know that feel well Catholicbro
Thankfully, they're too late.
If they had done this shite in both our countries 7 years ago they would havegot their way, but the Overton Window is shifting towards the right now, people are realising how shit a lefty lunacy world is and The Times are finally changing against these cunts now.
This is just a last ditch effort made by (((them))) to create some discord they think will work because they can see the tide rising against them and are very very scared.
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are you retarded? did you even read the OP at least, if not the link
>According to Dutch law you can have an abortion as long as the baby cannot live outside of the womb of the mother.
that's actually pretty reasonable
This happens when you somehow manage to elect retarded government party.
It isn't that hard, some politicians are retards in denial, so you will find out when it is too late.
i recently read on plebbit that most irish women have to travel to the UK to get abortions and they were working on changing the law against abortion. trying to anyway
Poles knew very well what are they going to get from PiS's previous stint in the government.
They haven't changed one bit. Just as batshit and incompetent.
But he's right. Our gov't wan't total ban of abortion. What OP and the linked article described is what our law looks like now - and to give you perpective - this is the most strict law in the Europe and they still want to change it to the total ban.
don't let it happen
we're slipping ourselves and it's probably going to go ahead here with the repeal of the 8th, but it is backed by the destroyers of nations and their unwitting, indifferent tools
thanks eu
*want
I really hope EU will intervene and don't let them to change the law
How would the EU intervene? Your govenrment doesn't respect its own Constitutional Tribunal by refusing to publish its decisions.
There is no way ECtHR could enforce it against the will of Polish government. You are a rogue nation and have no place in the EU.
EU intervened recently about the new tax that was breaking some EU laws and this tax was canceled in the same month that it was suppose to start.
I hope they will block the new abortion law because of human rights or something like this.
It's even worse - there's next proposition in the Sejm right now - they also want to ban anticonception:
seems like they'd Lisbon your shit up for NOT voting Yes to abortion on humanitarian grounds
I'd hold more hope in Poland not being too influenced by Western progressive values
kys yourself
>tfw the feminist butthurt
Stay strong, Poland.
Of course (((they))) are.
Can't have an actual fertile European country in 2016 now, can we? :^)
Do you really want tem to totally ban abortion, like really? Or are you just memeing? Don't you understand that in cases like this EU is here to proctect us from stupidity of our gov't? Do you also think that EU canceling retail tax was something bad? Would you want to pay more in for food only so gov't could have more money?
Abortion should be legal, but men should be able to choose whether or not they pay child support. Equality.
Also, OP's image would make a good feminist macro.
Cases like rape and disability should be removed from the list of abortion allowance, and that's exactly what ordo iuris project does
First because the child isn't to be blamed for being the result of a crime, second because if we don't allow the disabled who were already born to be killed, I don't see the reason why the unborn ones should be removed
Have some fucking consistency
Also fuck eu and fuck its fanatic believers such as the protesting feminazi whores who would remove any child but black and Arab ones
God bless, Poland.
our current minister (a feminist) of "Family, Children and Rights of Women" (serious) passed a law that made opposition to abortion an offence.
How?
Philosophically it is trivial. Children have to get quite old before they can take care of themselves without adult assistance. Should you be able to kill them before they reach this stage?
As for the mother and the foetus and the necessary physical relationship, this can be replaced, or at least aided with technology, certainly the limit at which the foetus cannot survive without it's mothers body will get closer and closer to conception as technology and medicine advances.
well you're in serious need of children
>Ban abortion for rape and life threatening instances
What the fuck?! Look I get it's actively killing your child but these two instances ARE women's rights issues, not using it as a fucking contraceptive. A woman shouldn't have to bear a rapist's spawn if she doesn't want to, and should under no means have to raise it when financially and emotionally unprepared.
And, Pollacks would prefer the mother dies over aborting her fetus? Fucking seriously?!
I'm a mix of pro life and pro choice (It's murder, but can't be banned for obvious reasons) and this is just plain fucking stupid.
Also
>Spend five years in prison vs. FUCKING DYING
Uhh
Whores chimping out because they won't be able to whore as much now.
>Thoughts?
CIA
>having circumstantial exceptions for abortion laws
I never got the justification for this, except when the mother's life is in danger. It's murder to kill a fetus, but it's not murder if that same fetus was created by rape? That makes no fucking sense.
I'm mostly pro-abortion rights, btw.
White healthy kids have the right to not be killed; as an anti-monotheism anarcocapitalist, i say this new law is retarded. Saving the womans life and in rape cases is fine.
> rape should only be allowed if the woman's life is in danger
okay
They want to ban abortions here too. They always say: look it is how it is in Poland.
How it was before "muh feminism"? I mean, the law.
I am catholic but this is wrong, abortion should be illegal with the exception in wich the mother has her life in danger. If being against abortion means protecting a life then it is very illogical to not protect the life of the mother.
Compassion for the baby maybe?
Good for Poland. Meanwhile as the rest of Europe dies off you will remain.
>meanwhile in Estonia the government will pay 70% of your abortion
No wonder our healthcare is bankrupt.
if they are catholics they dont have to be idiots
wtf my municipality in read
I fucking hate Pazardzhik right now
>Slavs
>humans
Some more background: they came to this decision after being presented with a case where a woman was raped and impregnated by her own father. They ruled an abortion illegal in that case.
Abortion is illegal here too and didn't stop my gf to do it.
It means the baby won't be able to perform basic bodily functions, like breathing or pumping blood. Organ transplants for newborns are extremely rare and dangerous. Not to mention the fact that it could miscarriage anyway, and a late miscarriage is way more dangerous than an early abortion.
>baby will be born as mutant
So your average Slav?
>only five years for literal child sacrifice
>women still protest this
Why are females so susceptible to the tune of the Jewish Piper?
Tbqh I'm fine with the law as it is right now, tightening it even more is stupid.
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>People are only against abortion because of Cred Forums memes and contrarianism
Pathetic
Abortion should be allowed up to three months if:
1. The mother is under 16 or over 38
2. Incest
3. The baby would have serious deformities
4. the mother's health and life would be endangered by the pregnancy
That's it. Seems perfectly reasonable.
This is a very sad place full of broken and angry people
I've never met an ardently pro-abortion woman that didn't later admit to having an abortion.
It's not my fault you feel guilty over it
That's pretty shitty tb.h. Abortion is only required when you're surrounded by non-whites that are outbreeding or raping you. White European rape victims are a whole different matter. Going to have to side with the left here for once.
I'm a man
Point's still the same
Scratch a fanatically pro-abortion female protestor and you'll find someone that's had at least one (if not multiple) abortion
Even more pathetic
Poland currently has one of the strictest abortion restrictions in Europe. Majority is content with this.
Then comes this public initiative of Catholic lawyers in which they want to ban all remaining exceptions, including when pregnancy results from rape, threatens mother's health or life and when fetus is malformed, establishes prison terms for physicians performing abortions and mothers seeking it (even abroad where it's legal).
Almost 80% of Polish public is opposed to these new restrictions, but ruling ultra-conservative party decides to support it, along with the Catholic church.
That's a lot of abortions
This abortion law is the so called compromise and no one has touched it since the 90s. Now, the Right feels it's strong enough and attacks it.
This means that there is no compromise anymore and pendulum could swing in the other direction after next election.
I personally think that excess populations, who are too numerous and have no threat of population decline or aren't ethnically important (in our case), like North/South Americans, Africans, Filipinos, Indians, Arabs etc. should be encouraged to do abortions. In order to control the population growth problem of earth, the least important populations should do the most to restrict growth
But important ethnic groups and threatened ones should restrict it, the same reason we put protection in place for endangered species/ Monoethnic Europeans, Japanese and Koreans should only do it as a last resort as you guys are in demographic trouble, and also ethnically important to human cultural biodiversity.
Abortion should only be made in rape cases or if the foetus is going to end up deformed or straight up retarded.
I don't see the point in restricting it?
Your kidding right? Whites shouldn't have abortions at all.
That's the point. It's going to be restricted even in those cases.
Poland is going back to its pre-1932 law when abortion was illegal without an exception.
That's just messed up. What's the reasoning behind it?
If I had a daughter who'd become pregnant via rape or was about to give birth to a downie I'd be legit pissed.
It's Poland. They're pretty fundamentalist when it comes to Catholicism.
There are clinics in my country in which majority of abortions are performed on Polish women.
fucking whores
>le we had communism so lets be complete autistic faggots and go hard religious right
Reminds me of how Canadians travel to the U.S to use our doctors, gas and milk
>abortion should be restricted
>I don't see a point in restricting abortion
It's funny that people who advocate eugenics would be the first to be euthanized.
>t. creepy autistic faggot who thinks about "white women need to breed more and have many white children" despite being a 400 pound neckbeard
I remember that there was a group of MPs from the government in the mid 2000s that wanted to proclaim Jesus Christ king of Poland.
It's pretty funny when you hear about it in the news, but I wouldn't want to live there.
Fucking nutcases like American Pentecostals.
You don't know what you are talking about and never try to compare you cuck Roman catholic pedos to protestants again
Protestants in this country are just as authoritarian and loony as the Catholic church is maybe even more so.
Yeah, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
Taliban tier fanaticism, uneducated people, fiery clerics.
I'm a Catholic, I like dignity in religion. It's disgusting when church looks like a fucking circus.
Not even close. Catholics actively want to pope to rule and try to influence politics. Protestants just want people to not interfere with their religion or beliefs and customs
Total bullshit, my family is Catholic and were politically liberal. Evangelical protestants are the main group of people who want religious laws implemented in the united states.
Nice try buddy. My mom's family is Roman Catholic
Whites? As I said, it's more monoethnic people, like pure Lithuanians, that are important to preserve
There are some cases where it's important to, like if the child has a horrid disease on the way and will have a feeding tube the rest of their short life. Healthy European kids though should be encouraged to not be aborted, I agree. North and South America have largely surplus and unimportant populations so one of the areas where growth can be limited
Maybe we should send them more money
>anecdotal evidence
>le I'm political expert from reddit
no, typical american one
We even call brain-damaged children "Washington"
What happens in Eastern Ukraine ?
Russians
Asking as an innocent bystander: Is banter between USA and Poland always that common?
>He ironically posts
Funny coming from the group of people with the most retards.
>anyone who isnt obsessed with the shitty eastern eurotrash idea of a global western (read: jewish) conspiricy to destroy such moral countries like russia and poland that fetishize child porn is a western shill from reddit
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
But like... what the hell... of 2/3 of women who are pregnant get abortions ?
Need to read up on the city of Luhansk and that region...
You mistook us for anglo-saxons
There is reason you are famous for cranial deformations
yes
Russian government sent soldiers to east ukraine that rape anything that moves
No pal I volunteer at a center that houses retarded people whose parents can't take care of them and the majority of them are Poles. And having grown up around a lot of first and second generation poles there are a surprising amount of "basement children" where you never know the person existed until his mom died and you see doctors escorting a retarded man out of the house
You volunteer?
So that means you're janitor IRL?
lmao that's really retarded
I'm pro-choice. Abortion is the #1 killer of niggers.
Can they abort that late in?
No I help raise money at their annual fair, my sister works there
I think late term abortions are illegal here after they aired late term abortions during commercials on the disney channel
>>I volunteer
>he does it for free
Wow lithuania is a rainbow of abortion
Do all the counties have different rulings on it?
So you volunteer to help someone make money?
You HELP them make cash FOR FREE
I just cant stop laughing
Yes I don't mind giving up a Saturday or two to help others
thats socialism
you vote for clinton too?
No it's not forced at all
you help them make cash for free
I bet they laugh at you when they count their bills they gonna spent on cocaine
Right the I'm sure the nuns that run the place for the catholic church are blowing it on Cocaine
Yes they do
Then they give cut of money to bishop who spends it on new rolls royce
and then they laugh about poor fucker jefferson, that helped them make this cash
No I think you are confusing us for Poland. The state doesn't give money to churches here so everything they have is based on donations
State officials get their cut of the prize too
I was right abotu americans being retarded
What cut are they getting from a charity that houses retards
From the money retards donate to charity
most of cash funds their lavish lifestyle
Right you've confused the U.S for Poland. The U.S isn't as corrupt or depressing as eastern europe
Post feet
US is even more corrupt, they just hide it better
You americans are really retarded to be so blind of how jews make cash on your ignorance and gullibility
No, there are legitimate ways to make millions here easily, This isn't europe where becoming rich is frowned upon
This must be why cuckoldry is so popular in america
These people fuck you over, rip you off yet you still cheer for them
Making money in the stock market isn't ripping people off
Bottling water in drought-stricken regions is, however
Pro-abortion female here. I've never had an abortion. Keep spouting nonsense, though.
Good. Abortion is wrong full stop. Poland is a shining beacon for the rest of Europe to follow.
fuck this shit I'm happy I'm leaving this shithole
>Another delusional Polack boasting about "muh Poland stronk"
Never change slav(e)
I like how Poland and Russia are always fighting to see who is more retarded.
>Do you really want tem to totally ban abortion, like really?
Yes, I signed the petition
>Do you also think that EU canceling retail tax was something bad?
Yes, it was a very reasonable tax reducing influence of many foreign companies that avoid paying taxes
The article is simply not accurate, this project doesn't delegalize abortions when mother's life is in danger
>threatens mother's health or life
not true
>but ruling ultra-conservative party decides to support it
not true, they allowed their parliament members to decide themselves
>This means that there is no compromise anymor
matters of protecting innocent human life are out of discussion, period
>pendulum could swing in the other direction after next election
first, people supporting infanticide would have to win; second, it's not that they aren't openly supporting all abortions even today
