> "because we are omnivores" we are not, only herbivores can develop atherosclerosis > "eating meat is natural" rape is also natural, male ducks gangbang female ducks > "tell that to a lion" lions are OBLIGATE carnivores, they cannot survive on plants > "because I like the taste of meat" there's lots of plant alternatives and you'll learn to love them over time, that's not an excuse that justifies animals being killed for you >pic related brownies I made
The problem is that vegan sources of protein - like soy for example - elevate estrogen levels in males and turn them into nu-male cucks.
Hunter Wright
Because meat is fucking delicious /thread
Nolan Cooper
>there's lots of plant alternatives and you'll learn to love them over time Except I don't fucking want to learn to love some stupid shit over time you tremendous fucking faggot. I love eating meat now, so why would I stop for some dumb shit to satisfy estrogen-fueled fucks like you?
This especially, thanks for helping in the emasculation of the West OP, you cunt.
Isaiah Hall
>go full vegan >need vitamins to stay healthy >will still be rail thin with no energy
Nah. We are top of the food chain for a reason.
Bentley Miller
Because, like feminism and anarchism, veganism is an unhelpful ideology, which is very attractive to attention-seeking shitlords like yourself.
Jonathan Powell
/thread
Meat is like alcohol. It's perfectly good in moderation.
Jayden Gray
Because all life must die, and I feel proud to do my small part in that process.
Julian Powell
Even as a faggot who has been living as a vegan since 1999, your bullshit just made me cringe.
Cooper Morales
That is actually the only valid argument.
Good job on being an honest carnivore user
Ayden Cox
Maybe I like to picture animals suffering as I eat my food?
Brayden Rogers
/Thread
Angel Williams
If meat is so bad why are vegans trying to make an alternative form of it?
Christian Martinez
Because humans naturally want meat. It's a foodstuff we are evolved to desire.
Brody Jones
I know this is bait but god dammit animals eat other animals. And somebody show me some solid evidence that eating lean meat isn't healthy
Anthony Cox
because my name is Maddox. for every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three.
Because plants are treated inhumanely. They're forced to live in overcrowded fields outside in the cold and wet. They are covered in drugs and chemicals against their wills. They are then taken away from their friends and families and mercilessly slaughtered all for human consumption.
And you think I would eat a plant?
Parker Clark
Can't you think of the plants too OP?? Stop killing the vegetation, you barbaric piece of shit
Daniel Garcia
Because I'm not bleeding out of my vag 24/7
Owen Edwards
Being vegan is a personal choice. For whatever reason, regardless of if it's because someone dislikes how animals are treated in mass production, or they simply feel that most meat animals are smart, etc, it's a personal choice.
Trying to argue the points is, well, pointless. Are we an omnivorous species? Yes. Despite your claims, fossil record clearly shows we, as a species, has eaten meat at every opportunity, and in fact likely played a major role in our brain development.
Can we survive on veggies and grains alone? Certainly! Does that mean we have to? Nope.
So you are either trolling or actually vegan. Lets assume the latter for the sake of lulz. That's great! I mean, honestly? You do you, Chief. All good. Me? Many others? We like the bacon. We like the blood and guts and veins in our teeth. Our choice.
It's like trying to debate which Star Trek was best, or which type of beer is best. Everyone has their own opinion and their own personal preference. If you don't like meat, that's awesome, but me? Pass the fucking gravy.
Samuel Cox
fucking ad fag
Xavier Walker
Not OP here, there ARE vegan alternatives that look and taste just like meat, except they aren't made from meat. I only know this because my faggot friends who are vegan tricked me into eating it
Justin Martinez
Because I'm not a massive pussy faggot, like OP.
Jonathan Bell
Because there are proteins and nutrients that you only get from eating meat. While a diet of veg is in idiots mind ethical; they will always be deficient. Add to the fact that humans have and always will be predators and you can't hunt an asparagus. We have K9 teeth and even our fecal ejections are predatory. You can call yourself vegan, vegetarian etc if you like; it doesn't change the fact that you are and always will be a carnivorous animal.
Lincoln Bailey
Not only that, but, many animals we farm for food wouldn't be NEARLY as successful if we didn't eat them. We would have no reason to farm them anymore, and their numbers would go down. The ultimate goal of life is to replicate your DNA as much as fucking possible, so, with cattle for instance, are we not actually doing them a favour?
Josiah Russell
What about unfertilized eggs tho?
Parker Wilson
/thread
Jason Stewart
Honestly, at this point? Spite. I don't care if it will be better for me or not. I don't care if it will taste better or not. As long as even a single vegan is annoyed by me doing so, I will continue to eat meat.
Jeremiah Kelly
fuck off with your lies, veggie bullshitter
Gavin Long
/Thread
Benjamin Butler
Actually we may have evolved BECAUSE our desire for meat. It is very VERY calorie dense and after some predigesting(cooking) it allowed our jaws to shrink giving our brains room to expand. Then naturally our brains demanded more energy which is more easily redeemed from meat and viola we crave it. Fatty meat more specifically lest we risk protien poisoning.
Jordan Wright
I couldn't imagine eating an animal alive, despite my love for meat. Vegetarians eat vegetables alive all the time. The savages.
Lucas Perez
Wouldn't get the dietary requirements I need. Nothing against vegans, good on you if you are... just don't pretend you're doing a good deed by not eating meat.
Elijah Johnson
> force an animal to rely on us > doing them a favour by helping them live
kek
Henry Jenkins
pussy
Blake Watson
>atherosclerosis "we are not, only herbivores can develop atherosclerosis"
bullshit....stopped reading after your first line of reasoning is wrong....but will caryy on
"rape is natural". i dont think you know what natural means....eating isnt natural either...you cretin...
lion...what?
"liking taste of meat doesnt justify animals being killed for you" yes it does...just because your justifications are different to mine doesnt mean yours are fight...fuck me, why did you skip logic 101?
Jaxson Hernandez
are you really going to argue the point of making an argument?
Jason Moore
They don't *rely* on us, per say. I'm saying that there is no way there would be however many billions of cattle on Earth if we weren't facilitating that.
Jacob Richardson
I don't want to >Why There's no reason for me to >Bad for your health blah blah blah Oh well.
Gavin Wilson
As a vegan what do you think of the research that shows that plants has something resembling consciousness and can feel pain. if it is proven true will you stop eating plants too?, What about artificially grown meat?
Angel Bell
Well duh, this IS Cred Forums after all. Are you new here or something?
Robert Gomez
I was a vegan for 2 years, worst time of my life. what made it even worse is when I was falling apart, all my vegan 'friends' offered were recommendations that didn't do shit for me. when I realized that some people require high quality protein sources-the kind that are not available in veggies-my vegan 'friends' dismissed this and once I tried switching back to meat, my vegan 'friends' all abandoned me. kinda sucked to lose all my 'friends' over a choice that improved my health and worse when they kept screaming that I was NOT healthier, but was deceiving myself. 10 years later, I'm in better shape now than I've ever been, and it's all thanks to eating meat. and those 'friends' still try to take me down. with friends like that, who needs enemas?
Camden Perez
Cite your sources.
Kevin Taylor
Me too thanks
Lucas Young
Because if we were all vegan things like would never happen.
Christopher Morgan
>Why have you not gone vegan yet Cred Forums ? Because there's literally no reason to be a vegan. Unless your moralfag lefty shitlord who thinks "Weuh killing animals is bad!!!!! :((((("
Leo Lee
1/10 made me respond
Josiah Mitchell
>last line Lost.
Aiden Foster
The cycle of life. If something is to live, something else must die.
Ryder Collins
Obviously bait
Thomas Clark
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Alexander Young
>last line Lost
Jackson Williams
I try to avoid meat when i can but i just don't see it as a big enough deal to completely push it out of my diet, i avoid eating meat simply because of how processed the shit is and unnatural, and how fucked up the animal harvesting process is. I feel really comfortable eating meat i acquired or watched get hunted myself. i also could never put down cheese, milk sucks but ice cream and cheese i will always eat.
Logan Ortiz
fuck you, sjw redditor
Nolan Mitchell
>only herbivores can develop atherosclerosis
Fixed version:
Only herbivores and omnivores develop atherosclerosis, because their diet is high in plant lectins and polyunsaturated fats.
Kevin Harris
People who get fucked in the ass on the regular.
Elijah Sanders
We are apex predators
Justin Cox
thats not a good thing. I doubt animals living in constant suffering in tiny cages from birth to death would consider their existence successful
Jacob Morgan
Lol right? Vegans wanna be vegan but then they still want to come to fast food places to order a vegan chicken sandwich. Theyre still in the closet about eating meat. Just like op
Jaxson Jones
>>there's lots of plant alternatives and you'll learn to love them over time >Except I don't fucking want to learn to love some stupid shit over time you tremendous fucking faggot. I love eating meat now, so why would I stop for some dumb shit to satisfy estrogen-fueled fucks like you? this why the fuck do you ever give a fuck about if i eat meat or not? you care about your health? then be vegan yourself. why do you except from me to do the same as brainwashed vegan redditor?
Cameron Hill
this vegans are ideological assholes that are unwilling to listen to reason. they pretend to be reasonable until you unravel their arguments. i was at a book signing where the writer was an ex-vegan and other vegans attacked her physically for leaving their cult.
Ayden Jones
This is now a delicious gore thread
Connor Nguyen
Yoo bad maddox doesnt even upload anymore. Fucking ran out of material after like an hour of watching.
Kevin Robinson
It is, as far as evolution is concerned. They have very successfully replicated their genetic code. Besides, everything dies anyway. We may as well make use of the delicious tender remains.
Connor Young
I'm just wayyyy too fucking lazy to deal with all the bullshit required to go vegetarian or vegan. It's much easier just to grab a hunk of meat off the supermarket shelf and cook that biatch than it is to go hunting round for alternatives. I'm also too fucking lazy to have to check the ingredients of every...single...product i buy to check if it's vegan because even my fucking hair conditioner isn't vegan. Fuck that noise
Leo Diaz
then they should eat meat. why to choose some animal's rights over your own self?
Alexander Lewis
Lol right? It's like lesbian feminists fucking each other with artificial penises.
So disingenuous.
Jeremiah Anderson
You may have misunderstood my position. I'm very much an anti-vegan.
Lincoln Walker
OP, you're a faggot BAITLORD who only posted this shitty bait to goad gullible fags into responding. you don't even believe the BULLSHIT you're spouting, it's a faggy ass troll. in more than 50 posts, you haven't responded once with a reasonable argument. fuck you, faggot OP. OP, you're a faggot BAITLORD who only posted this shitty bait to goad gullible fags into responding. you don't even believe the BULLSHIT you're spouting, it's a faggy ass troll. in more than 50 posts, you haven't responded once with a reasonable argument. fuck you, faggot OP.OP, you're a faggot BAITLORD who only posted this shitty bait to goad gullible fags into responding. you don't even believe the BULLSHIT you're spouting, it's a faggy ass troll. in more than 50 posts, you haven't responded once with a reasonable argument. fuck you, faggot OP. .. OP, you're a faggot BAITLORD who only posted this shitty bait to goad gullible fags into responding. you don't even believe the BULLSHIT you're spouting, it's a faggy ass troll. in more than 50 posts, you haven't responded once with a reasonable argument. fuck you, faggot OP. OP, you're a faggot BAITLORD who only posted this shitty bait to goad gullible fags into responding. you don't even believe the BULLSHIT you're spouting, it's a faggy ass troll. in more than 50 posts, you haven't responded once with a reasonable argument. fuck you, faggot OP. .. OP, you're a faggot BAITLORD who only posted this shitty bait to goad gullible fags into responding. you don't even believe the BULLSHIT you're spouting, it's a faggy ass troll. in more than 50 posts, you haven't responded once with a reasonable argument. fuck you, faggot OP. .. OP, you're a faggot BAITLORD who only posted this shitty bait to goad gullible fags into responding. you don't even believe the BULLSHIT you're spouting, it's a faggy ass troll. in more than 50 posts, you haven't responded once with a reasonable argument. fuck you, faggot OP. ...
Brody Bennett
this /thread
Elijah Mitchell
I'm definitely not pro-vegan, but this is a fucking stupid argument. We may have exponentially increased the cattle population, but we've also forced our livestock to be totally dependent on us and made them biologically unrecognisable to their feral ancestors through centuries of selective breeding. If that's 'doing a species a favour' then so be it.
Liam Walker
You clearly haven't gone hunting, OP.
Killing something and then eating it, is fucking amazing.
Ian Gomez
Why do vegetarians somehow think it's more ethical to genocide plants then animals? We're all loving things. In order for one life form to thrive, another must suffer. That's survival
Isaac Price
Your brownies look oily. Vegans are faggots.
Elijah Wilson
> polyunsaturated fats > atherosclerosis
eeeeh, you... you what m8?
Daniel Martinez
Because I'm not a degenerate that desires no muscle mass. >inb4 hurr durr lentils
Jose Johnson
Because i like meat and because i find it ethically acceptable to eat meat. >But muh world Fuck the world.
Tyler Hughes
Biofag here. Just throwing this out there: most evidence involving teeth and our digestive system point that we came from a carnivorous ancestor, and still process meat more efficiently than plant matter. That's why your body doesn't fuck with corn...
Jacob Kelly
>
Jose Green
have*
Adrian Richardson
cows eat 7 times more plants than humans....
Parker Fisher
i like some of these meat alternatives - sadly they are expensive as fuck
David Jones
Because I think that the line between animal life and plant life is arbitrary, just like vegans think that the line between animals and humans is arbitrary. The natural conclusion to veganism is to respect all life equally, and since it is medically impossible to go on a nothing diet, my best option is to just eat a balanced diet.
Vegans think nothing of murdering salads because they're not cute like puppies. Fuck those monsters.
Dominic Cook
Yeah this
Josiah Murphy
>>pic related brownies I made
BULLSHIT, you stole those pictures off other recipe websites you lying faggot,
all vegans are lying faggots like you
Jaxson Richardson
>>> "because we are omnivores" >we are not, only herbivores can develop atherosclerosis yes we are >> "eating meat is natural" >rape is also natural, male ducks gangbang female ducks point? >> "tell that to a lion" >lions are OBLIGATE carnivores, they cannot survive on plants ?? >> "because I like the taste of meat" >there's lots of plant alternatives and you'll learn to love them over time, that's not an excuse that justifies animals being killed for you i enjoy knowing an animal died for me to eat, also i already eat and enjoy veg
>>pic related brownies I made look shit
Josiah Adams
FuUUCking shut your fuck up
Jaxson Green
I don't know about america, but here in England we have butchers in a lot of small villages, the meat is all from local farms, and fucking hell, it smells amazing. You don't get the same feeling with vegetables
Also, taste, versatility in cooking, smell, price, protein
Henry Howard
Because I workout and my muscles need meat. I can't take protein only from shakes. Now live your sad life, you anorexic faggot.
Michael Phillips
I am unable to feel empathy.
Owen Ross
Well, milk does, because it's compound is mammilia estrogen, which is actually synthesized into our bodies as estrogen where as soy and most soy plant foods contain phytoestrogens which are not converted into actual estrogen into our bodies.
Jonathan Reed
...
Nathan Butler
>says the vegan propaganda cuck who has never seen a cattle ranch
They're not puppy mills, you know
Ian Cruz
And what's wrong with ducks gang banging? I think that should be legal also... did you forget where you are...
Grayson Flores
So then theoretically, by killing and eating the cows, aren't we saving more life in the long run, as all these plants aren't dieing?
Daniel Nelson
I don't know much about lifting, but why can't you get enough protein from shakes? Isn't it easier to get a ton on protein from shakes, vs. trying to get it from meat?
Brody Cook
we don't process meat very good tho, we have an autoimmune response every time. only with cooking are we allowed to manage it
Jose King
I'm a man not a fat lesbian feminist so I eat meat
John Lopez
Is that why I have tits?
Henry Martin
>notlikeingrape
Josiah Wilson
doesnt work when you create more cows than you kill.
Hudson Flores
I notice you try to push your ideological standpoint on me subtly by using the word "trying." If I try to get protein from meat, that means I eat the meat. I'm *going* to get protein for it. What's your point? Protein shakes are fucking gross.
Gavin Ortiz
Because the Gods eat beef and steak is incredibly delicious. Cooking and then eating dead animals is my passion.
Sebastian Phillips
Oh the irony.
Bentley Gray
Way to much unnatural shit for my body. Expensive. Protein shakes are called supplements. You can't replace meal with them. You just supplement the meals you already have.
Robert Sanders
>likeing We're reaching autism levels that shouldn't even be possible
William Foster
first post best post
Matthew Torres
WELL MAYBE IF YOU GOD DAMN VEGANS WOULD EAT MORE COWS THIS WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM
Christian Turner
>per say >say
*per se
Get it right, faggot
Ian James
Hardly. Not in psychical terms obviously.
Brayden Perry
Gluten intolerance on rise.
Meat protein intolerance rarer than green eyes.
Evolution baby.
Anthony Rodriguez
Oop my bad
Evan Bailey
That's not me lol. But yes protein shakes become the most disgusting thing you ever touch after 1 month of use.
Parker Allen
>per say
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Dylan Morris
So vegans are all about eating naturally (hence the 'it isn't natural to eat meat' bullshit), but their choice means they eat incredibly processed shit that vaguelly has the texture/taste of meat, and so many pills just to stay relatively healthy
Nathan Ramirez
Because I believe in humane treatment of animals. There have been a lot of advances in quality of life conditions for farm animals, and I believe that a lot more can be done. And I know that the one surefire way to completely fuck it up is if everyone stopped eating meat and crashed the market.
Consuming meat makes meat profitable, and profitable ranches have the resources to raise healthy animals. Blockading meat makes a clusterfuck without actually improving anything. Vegans are total morons.
Jayden Richardson
cows are like the head of hydras, the more you eat the more appear
Ayden Thomas
you deep in retard terrority there little buddy
Zachary Cook
Are you familiar with the usage of the term AIDS PIG? How about you try attacking the guy's actual argument? It's not as though that error made the whole thing incomprehensible.
Justin Smith
Because it's more cost effective for me and my family to pay $35-$50 for a deer or elk tag, get one and have over 100+ pounds of meat.
Wyatt Hill
This just got political
Ian Jones
I sincerely hope you are joking. I eat meat but that was the most retarded thing Ive read
Landon Morris
lol you're a fucking moron.
William Sanchez
what
Adam Brooks
Could because you're on hrt, user. Or if you're genuinely ask, some men have a genetic deposition to gynocomastia and certain food choices they make could make it worse, surgery for it is always one option.
Tyler Wood
>male ducks gangbang female ducks I learnt something today
Lincoln Martin
How about go fuck yourself? I can do whatever the fuck I want with my food.
Daniel Harris
Humans have been on this earth a while now and we've been eating meat the entire time. Vegans trying to reinvent the wheel and shit. No point in human history do we have a prosperous society where they ate purely vegan.
Carter Jenkins
Because my tastebuds are evolved to enjoy the taste of animal products.
And if you don't like carefully planning your diet, meat/animal products contains a lot of things your body needs, so you can basically can eat whatever.
The ideal diet contains a VERY small amount of meat. Even a vegetarian diet can't beat the ideal omnivore diet, let alone a VEGAN diet, which REQUIRES supplements.
Eli Cooper
I'm a moron? How helpful. Now, try addressing the content of my contributions.
Christopher Mitchell
I'm very anti-vegan, but HOLY SHIT was that a bad argument.
>keep giving wealthy, bad people money and it will make them turn good! You're voting for Trump, aren't you?
Austin Rodriguez
The umami from a good quality meat is impossible to replace by vegetarian options.
> "There are lots of plant alternatives..." Yes, and I even like some, but I don't want to eat one type of flavour my whole life when I can alternate between many delicious options.
I've never understood why vegetarians are so focused on trying to replicate meat with plant options. There's a fuckton of delicious vegetarian meals that rely on the harmony of different flavours, so why would you try to sell me vegetarianism with a sausage made of soy?
If you want meatlike products, eat meat. You can't replace it. But don't eat just meat or you'll miss a lot of other good stuff.
Because it taste good u stupid fuck, vegetables taste like shit
Colton Murphy
Not as bad as seeing "wallah" for voila or "loose" for lose.
Zachary Bailey
Economics isn't for everyone. That's cool, we need guys to flip burgers too.
Levi Hughes
Lmao fair enough.
Tyler Rodriguez
1 they're expensive as fuck 2 I've never had one that even comes close to being as good as a steak
Jackson Myers
Disgusting please we are trying to have a family thread
Benjamin Ross
>Eating meat and profiting off mass murders of millions of animals is the best to ensure farm animals are treated right
Uwot, I'm not even vegan but nothing about that makes sense or is humane. Animals are still killed pretty violently nowadays, especially the less useful.
Wow, you really couldn't be any more ignorant, could you?
Henry Cooper
apparently neither is logical thinking
Connor Bell
>5-15-16
Yeah okay user, therye nice tits but that doesn't mean therye YOUR nice tits.
Austin Allen
Without meat, humans would have never accelerated the growth of our brains into what they are now.
Mason Morris
recipe for the brownies?
Daniel Moore
>You can't replace it. It's only a matter of time till we can and at this moment most people will stop to eat meat. It's defenitely good companies try to achieve this.
Nicholas Williams
Impressive, you can interpret dates, faggot.
Nathaniel Sanders
I don't like vegetables and also see pic.
Noah Williams
Do you drink water as a Vegan?
That's a fish's house you know.
Michael Clark
Because i fucking love this
Nicholas Wood
ITT: gullible faggots falling for obvious bait (OP doesn't even believe his shit, he probably eats bacon and posted it to fuck with you faggots) ITT: gullible faggots falling for obvious bait (OP doesn't even believe his shit, he probably eats bacon and posted it to fuck with you faggots) ITT: gullible faggots falling for obvious bait (OP doesn't even believe his shit, he probably eats bacon and posted it to fuck with you faggots) ITT: gullible faggots falling for obvious bait (OP doesn't even believe his shit, he probably eats bacon and posted it to fuck with you faggots)
Nolan Hughes
Fuck off everyone knows Voyager was the best. kys faggot ;)
Jaxson Reed
The meat part is too thin
Owen Cooper
>implying we don't know and aren't just replying anyway out of boredom, like 90% of the posts on this board
Dylan Evans
Carnivores can get atherosclerosis. You can induce it in lost animals utmost one of the easiest diseases to induce in a laboratory setting.
But we are omnivores, therefore I'm still going fishing today.
Quite honestly I don't care about the suffering of animals I eat.
Any animal I eat wouldn't care about my suffering.
Op, I put butter in my brownies. I'm confident they taste better than yours and no substitute will change that.
Jackson Cox
It's meat, it's the only thing that matters
Parker Cooper
Pretty much Cred Forums is the same 6 threads over and over so why not make the most of wasting time?
Matthew Morris
There are alrernatives other than Soy, such as tree nuts, almonds are especially popular. I'm vegan and I eat meat alternatives that aren't made from soy all the time.
Isaac Wilson
Because it triggers vegan cucks like you
Austin Ross
I enjoy killing animals to consume their flesh.
David Diaz
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Josiah Richardson
Eat shit.
Aiden Turner
...
Liam Thomas
Then why do we eat meat? We aren't ducks? I can't survive on plants either. Until 99% of the population isvegan the "They were killed for you, if you didn't eat meat they would be alive" argument is invalid and even then it won't really be valid as they wouldn't survive in the wild.I've had plenty if vegetarian alternative foods before, while a veggie burger isn't bad I'd much rather have a real burger. Also, I live in America and can do as I please, so fuck off cunt
Cooper Foster
I am not shy kek
William Watson
Hi faggot, how are you?
Isaac Green
Faggot
Adam Hernandez
You should ask yourself.
Carson Green
of course every thread is a troll tread no such thing as some op who is up his own ass. thanks man for setting us all straight
Jordan Ramirez
You wanna go on a date to the weightloss clinic? If you lose 50 lbs I'll be your boyfriend.
Dylan James
I like you too, faggot.
Asher Young
Your opinion matters nothing to me I will continue to eat meat as I please
Kayden Evans
Faggot, but hey, you should work on being less shy. Let's get coffee some time.
David Nguyen
Fun fact: it's true for plants too.
Adam Russell
If we are not omnivores, why are animal based proteins more bioavailable than plant based?