I want to see the best Japan has to offer from animation, what are some good anime films with more serious themes? Not modern cutesy kawaii senpai-kun shit.
So far I have seen
Millenium Actress Grave of the Fireflies Akira Macross Plus The Castle of Cagliostro Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind Castle in the Sky My Neighbor Totoro Kiki's Delivery Service Princess Mononoke Spirited Away Howl's Moving Castle The Wind Rises Ponyo
So far I am impressed beyond my expectations and want to see more.
Anime can never be kino, child of imd/v/. Even the so-called "great" ones do not so much as graze the aesthetic and philosophical heights of cinema and literature. It's a trash genre made for East Asian teenagers and white manchildren with short attention spans.
Hudson Cook
Jin-roh: The Wolf Brigade is some pretty good stuff,
Zachary Morris
They made a board literally just for people like you.
Levi Davis
You're right, there is a board for discussion relating to movies. You're on it.
Mason Nguyen
Wings of Honneamise Only Yesterday Junkers Come Here Shin-Chan Movie 09
Eli Jackson
Patema inverted When Marnie was there Ghost in the Shell Paprika
Oliver Taylor
Thank you, added to my list.
Christopher Adams
Fuck off idiot
Isaac Edwards
No I mean a board for rejects of Cred Forums from Cred Forums and Cred Forums like you. /wsr/ is a product of people being made insecure by Cred Forums
Luke James
End of Evangelion, I used to huff cans of air duster and watch it to the point of depersonalization and psychosis, good times.
if you can ignore the imagery and focus more on the characters it's one of the must see anime films
Anthony Campbell
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Connor Parker
>posting a meme image
opinion discarded
Nolan Barnes
>defending this shithole of a board
Jason Rivera
Bobby's In Deep
Christopher Carter
you could make some patreon$ with a time of eve essay
totes kino
Lincoln Foster
You'd have to watch the Neo Genesis Evangellion series before you watch End of Evangellion, but I highly recommend it. Binged watched the series and the movies in two days and was blown away.
Dylan Reed
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Easton Johnson
>he browses /botnet/ Fucking kek. I bet you installed gentoo on a VM too just too see whats its like, didn't you? I hope for your sake you did a complete wipe of your pc computer
Brody White
Report link for anyone on mobile: sys.Cred Forums.org/tv/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=75288941
Landon Nguyen
they're my braincells fuck face
Anthony Brown
>ayn rand >intellectual
lmao
Liam Smith
What is even the point of this post user
What are you trying to say with this
Christopher Diaz
No >Ghost in the shell
William Brown
*were
Xavier Reed
If your not sick of miyazaki watch Porco Rosso. It's their best imo.
Angel Young
Don't browse Cred Forums Don't lurk Cred Forums Don't listen to Cred Forums even if you have nothing to hide
Adrian Brown
Perfect Blue is the only anime movie I would recommend to a normalfag
Joshua Fisher
>anime >kino
Go back to Cred Forums.
Grayson Sullivan
>Ayn Rand
lol k
Austin Brown
I visited Cred Forums once, it was a shit board
Charles Rivera
>sports >the most entry level hobby in the planet that even African village children get into >average IQ of 113
Sebastian Howard
Shit, you're right. We'd better warn everyone going to see Kimi no Na wa that they are hallucinating, because anime movies don't actually exist.
Aaron Lewis
Garden of words is stupid pretty.
Charles Cook
Looks like filtered photo.
Jack Baker
Perfect blue
Juan Ward
that's about all it has going for it. flimsy narrative typical of this director
David Flores
That's painted based on a photo. Filtered photos don't look like that.
Samuel Cook
>Millenium Actress doesn't get any better than this.
Adrian Mitchell
It's way too stylized to be a filter
Ryan Cooper
They can look like that.
Aiden Wright
this
Juan Phillips
This is a short anime that used filtered photos for backgrounds.
Kayden Lee
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Zachary Collins
Also.
Isaiah Lee
This is just lazy.
Camden Mitchell
>average iq of 55 >the average video game player is mentally retarded
Easton Edwards
It was probably an artistic decision. Backgrounds like this are very rare.
Dominic Wright
A Wind Named Amnesia Ai City Angel Cop Bounty Dog Crusher Joe Grey: Digital Target Space Adventure Cobra Venus Wars
Austin Rogers
HAHAHAHA GET FUCKED WEEBS. even garbage like ayn rand is better than your weeb trash
David Evans
Anime is Japanese. It can't be weeb.
Julian Cooper
>200 good Japanese films >100 good Korean films >150 good Chinese films >manchildren waste time on cartoons
Angel Diaz
angel's egg
Asher Allen
Paranoia Agent
Bentley Thompson
This thread is about anime (which partially falls under the category of Japanese films), not cartoons. Did you mean to post this in another thread?
Connor Diaz
>manchildren They're actually children. See
Easton Barnes
Sarusuberi: Miss Hokusai
bit of a sleeper hit from last year pretty comfy
Julian Lee
My 3 must see anime are Ghost in the Shell, Jin-Roh, and Akira. Although I haven't seen a ton
Thomas Morales
depends what genre you're looking at. for example older rpgs were heavily based on math and optimizing equipment loadouts. this is still true for more modern rpgs, and some have even gone further and done things like having the player practically program the actions of party members in advance.
David Reyes
I don't understand what people see in Jin-Roh. Akira is also overrated but at least the music gives it a very unique atmosphere.
Julian Torres
Check it out
Chase Sullivan
Patema is the most overrated piece of shit generic animated movie I've ever seen.
Oliver Johnson
>wwf
stopped reading there m8
Joseph King
I have never seen an anime that was well written or well directed. It's literally just cape-shit level schlock, I don't understand why people obsess over it.
Brandon Mitchell
Belladonna of Sadness is the only anime of value
Samuel Price
>Patema >generic Another example of how this word doesn't mean anything.
This is the "guilty by assocation" tactic. Capeshit is bad, and anime is arbitrarily associated with capeshit, so therefore anime is bad.
Nathaniel Russell
Tokyo Godfathers Perfect Blue Redline End of Evangelion (only if you watch the series first) Memories (it's 3 separate stories, I'm only really recommending the first which is called Magnetic Rose) Ninja Scroll
James Thomas
Anime is shit.
Justin Gomez
>I'm only really recommending the first which is called Magnetic Rose
But the 3rd is the best you fucking faggot
Lucas Bailey
Naruto
Hudson Thompson
Then so is everything else.
Anthony Jones
>End of Evangelion (only if you watch the series first) >watching anti art trash that rips off actual art Kill yourself you philistine
Evan Turner
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Adam Fisher
That's an inaccurate translation, it should be more along the lines of "I don't feel well" Besides I don't see how you can shame Eva for this when a majority of modern media samples and references past works.
Ian Cook
Colorful. This one's a beautiful hidden gem Only Yesterday Porco Rosso Tokyo Godfathers (it's really not what the trailer makes it out to be, by the guy behind Millenium Actress, Satoshi Kon) Perfect Blue (MUCH better than Paprika in my opinion, also by Satoshi Kon) Pom Poko Chie the Brat Cowboy Bebop: Knockin' On Heaven's Door Whisper of the Heart (I wasn't really paying attention when I watched it but it's probably good) The Cat Returns Summer Days with Coo
Also make sure to watch any other movie directed by Miyazaki or Takahata that I haven't mentioned.
Jonathan Perez
Post the comparison of EoE and Stalker
Caleb Morgan
If anime does something, it's bad. If Western media does the same thing, it's good.
Ryan Sanchez
Theres a czech war cinema it apes too
Noah Cooper
Studio Ghibli is actually good, their movies are masterpieces. And zelda is a great franchise. Just because it can be liked by normies doesn't mean it's bad.
Justin Cruz
You're bad at finding the good ones.
Daniel Perry
it's a generic piece of shit. It uses boring, very predictable tropes, the dialogue and even the setting is incredibly stupid. It's good if you're 12
Jack King
eva is full of references, but I doubt Anno was aware of some obscure eastern european film. The man was obsessed with a japanese toku show ffs, I doubt he was studying decades old films for this.
Nathaniel Reed
Any good cunnycore stuff? No boku no pico stuff though please
Kayden Smith
>generic This doesn't mean anything, as you already demonstrated.
Levi Wilson
I don't care about your pedantic bullshit. I think you got my message pretty well.
Asher Evans
It's not pedantic, and there was no message for me to get.
Julian Sanders
yes there was. It's what you think about when you see the word "generic". Formulaic. Common. The established plot devices that have already been used way too much, that we all know and are bored of. I was very clear.
Brayden Collins
This one is a stretch
Jace James
>It's what you think about when you see the word "generic". Formulaic. Common. You didn't use the word according to that definition. Nobody does.
Jack James
I don't give a fuck about your problems with the English language and how we currently use it. You understood what I said, unless you're retarded or aren't fluent in the language. Generic is synonymous with common. Google it.
Michael Green
>Nobody does To put it simply, if nobody does, everyone does.
Jaxon Scott
>You understood what I said I understand that what you said doesn't mean anything.
>Generic is synonymous with common. That's not how you used it.
>Google it. I know what the word is supposed to mean. The problem is that you don't.
Oliver Stewart
Who /m/ here
Brody Parker
>I understand that what you said doesn't mean anything.
Yes it does, I'm 100% sure everyone who read that understood its meaning except a certain pedantic autist.
>Generic is synonymous with common Yes it is. I said it's a common movie, with common tropes. Boring.
>I know what the word is supposed to mean. The problem is that you don't Except you said the word doesn't have a meaning, while it clearly does. I used the word perfectly well just like everyone else. You're the only asshole here who has a problem with the use of the word. The word generic can be used in many different contexts, no matter how much it hurts your ass.
Christopher Richardson
>Yes it does, I'm 100% sure everyone who read that understood its meaning except a certain pedantic autist. There was no meaning.
>I said it's a common movie, with common tropes. Which is factually incorrect.
>Except you said the word doesn't have a meaning, while it clearly does. It technically does. In the dictionary. Which everyone ignores. So practically speaking the word has no meaning.
>You're the only asshole here who has a problem with the use of the word. I didn't realize having a modicum of intelligence makes me an asshole.
Luis Russell
>There was no meaning Everyone who read it understood it and had no problem with it.
>Which is factually incorrect Oh, so that's it. Your jimmies are rustled because I don't like your precious weaboo turd of a movie, but you haven't made a single counterargument. Instead, you focus on a word that was used perfectly well whether you like it or not.
>It technically does. In the dictionary. Which everyone ignores. So practically speaking the word has no meaning. merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/generic it was used perfectly well. There is no problem with that. I called the film generic because it bears the characteristics of a generic movie. Most of the movie's plot devices pose a generic trait of the cinematic industry. Happy now that I played your pedantic bullshit game and proved you wrong?
>I didn't realize having a modicum of intelligence makes me an asshole. >I'm above everyone else here because I have my own autistic definition of the word "generic" while everyone else use it to communicate something we all understand You're pathetic.
Matthew Walker
>Everyone who read it understood it and had no problem with it. Or so you think.
>Your jimmies are rustled because I don't like your precious weaboo turd of a movie What weeaboo movie? I thought we were talking about Patema Inverted. Are you talking about something else then?
>it was used perfectly well. It wasn't.
>Happy now that I played your pedantic bullshit game and proved you wrong? You didn't.
>I'm above everyone else here because I have my own autistic definition of the word "generic" while everyone else use it to communicate something we all understand I never said or implied I have my own definition for it.
Julian Fisher
>Or so you think Nobody else has replied. So far everyone understood it except you.
>I thought we were talking about Patema Inverted. That's right, the huge eyes, annoying voice, shitty sci-fi plot Patema Inverted. That's what we're talking about.
>It wasn't Nice counterargument to prove it wasn't. You just saying it wasn't doesn't mean shit. It's not like you're an important person.
>You didn't I did. Try explaining why I didn't or going back to school.
>I never said or implied I have my own definition for it You're acting like you know the true definition of generic and nobody else does. As if you own the fucking word.
Samuel Morris
>Nobody else has replied. So far everyone understood it except you. You cannot conclude from that that everyone understood you.
>That's right, the huge eyes, annoying voice, shitty sci-fi plot Patema Inverted. That's what we're talking about. But you just said we're talking about some weeaboo movie. Which is it?
>Nice counterargument to prove it wasn't. Patema isn't generic, so if you call it generic you are not using the word correctly.
>I did. No you didn't.
>You're acting like you know the true definition of generic and nobody else does. That's correct. But it doesn't mean I have my own definition.
Wyatt Butler
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Lincoln Bailey
>You cannot conclude from that that everyone understood you. Yes I can, mostly because it's not the first time I use it or read, and nobody has ever had a problem with it.
>But you just said we're talking about some weeaboo movie. Which is it? Patema Inverted. Are you that deep in denial?
>Patema isn't generic, so if you call it generic you are not using the word correctly. Again, no counterargument explaining why it isn't generic. It's a boring sci-fi setting and the same shitty love story you see everywhere.
>No you didn't Do you not know how to mak a counterargument? Sorry to burst your bubble, but spouting "WRONG" at everything you disagree without offering any further discussion only works if you're in a hot debate in national TV and already have the followers to support you. It doesn't work here on Cred Forums, you're just being a butthurt snob weaboo.
>That's correct. But it doesn't mean I have my own definition. Ok, Mr. Enlightened faggot. No one cares, and I'mm not playing the pedantic bullshit game again with you. It seems it turns you on.
Andrew Sullivan
>Yes I can No you can't.
>Patema Inverted. Are you that deep in denial? What denial? You started talking about some weeaboo movie that you never even named.
>Again, no counterargument explaining why it isn't generic. There's nothing that needs explaining. It's obvious that there are not many movies with Patema's premise.
>Do you not know how to mak a counterargument? You didn't prove me wrong.
>Ok, Mr. Enlightened faggot. No one cares If you don't care then what are you doing here?
Thomas Cox
Pure samuraikino.
David Rodriguez
>entry level anime
I want Cred Forums to leave.
Dylan Martinez
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Xavier Adams
Entry level doesn't mean bad.
Michael Cruz
Literally everyone but Cred Forums and the mod that starts with R does
Ayden James
You hyped for the new Patlabor movie?
Jonathan Thomas
Something only a Cred Forumsedditor would say.
Luke Rivera
>No you can't Yes I can. And I explained why, and you replied with nothing of value to prove me wrong.
>What denial? You started talking about some weeaboo movie that you never even named. I was talking from the beginning about Patema Inverted, and I did name it. Is your reading comprehension really that bad or am I falling for bait?
>You didn't prove me wrong Yes I did. It's your job to explain why I'm not proving you wrong.
>If you don't care then what are you doing here? I said no one cares about your bullshit pedantic definition of the word. And I'm shutting your bullshit down and proving you wrong. You can't seriously have such a terrible reading comprehension.
Austin Morgan
If it ends up being good I will be so fucking happy
What's your opinion on the second movie? I think Oshii had some great visual directing with the scene in which the JSDF wander around Japan, and the tunnel scene was great. The unjust war scene had some neat ideas, but I think that the movie could have expanded upon them a little bit more.
It's something someone who actually likes anime would say.
>Yes I can. No you can't.
>I was talking from the beginning about Patema Inverted, and I did name it. Is your reading comprehension really that bad or am I falling for bait? Patema is a Japanese movie.
>Yes I did. No you didn't.
>I said no one cares about your bullshit pedantic definition of the word. It's just the actual definition of the word. Which nobody uses.
>And I'm shutting your bullshit down and proving you wrong. You haven't done any such thing.
Benjamin Rogers
Rurouni Kenshin - Samurai X
Yeah this.
Aiden Edwards
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Luke Morgan
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Dylan Hill
>movies that ape a trashy cartoon manage to make it more authentic too Holy shit. Anime truly is the low IQ medium
TWBB is pleb dogshit though
Brandon Perry
>It's something someone who only watches entry level anime would say
fix'd
Dominic Diaz
>No you can't. Repeating the same shit won't get you anywhere, fedoraman.
>Patema is a Japanese movie enjoyed by weaboos like you
>It's just the actual definition of the word. Which nobody uses. No it's not. I linked the actual definition, which I used, correctly.
>You haven't done any such thing Yes I have. I think I may be just wasting my time by replying to a person so far on the spectrum.
Jackson Lopez
Studio Ghibli isn't entry level anime. It's just a different type of japanese animation that can be enjoyed by everyone, including normies and betas.
Chase Edwards
I don't watch only entry level anime.
>enjoyed by weaboos like you I'm not a weeaboo, and what does this have to do with what I said?
>No it's not. I linked the actual definition The actual definition you linked to is the definition that I am talking about, and also the definition that you are not using.
>Yes I have. No you haven't.
Julian Cook
>an anime thread that turned into two retards arguing with each other
Such a surprise.
Lucas Mitchell
t. tasteless plebeian
Parker Richardson
How am I a tasteless plebeian?
Blake Murphy
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Thomas Diaz
Movies: Tale of the Princess Kaguya Macross Plus: Movie Edition Escaflowne: The Movie Patlabor: The Movie Patlabor 2 Dirty Pair: Project Eden Time of Eve
OVA: Kite Cobra the Animation Bubblegum Crisis Dirty Pair Otaku no Video
Series: Noir Patlabor TV series Yamato 2199 Space Adventure Cobra Kino's Journey Heat Guy J The Vision of Escaflowne Ergo Proxy Dirty Pair Space Cobra When They Cry
Wyatt Sanders
>Pleb Dandy
Found the Cred Forums kiddy
Anthony Sanchez
Just because Cred Forums likes it doesn't mean it's bad, Steven kun.
Asher Sanchez
>it's an 'Cred Forums thinks their gook toons have depth' episode
please enlighten me to the patrician genius of monster musume and umaru
Adrian Mitchell
Some of them have depth, some of them don't. It also depends on what definition of depth you are using.
Carter Richardson
>I'm not a weeaboo Yes you are.
>The actual definition you linked to is the definition that I am talking about, and also the definition that you are not using. You haven't talked about any definition. I have. Correctly.
>No you haven't. yes I have. Go fuck yourself.
Henry Collins
>Yes you are. You are either lying or don't know what the word means.
>You haven't talked about any definition. I have. Correctly. But you don't actually use the definition.
>yes I have. No you haven't.
Jayden Green
>You are either lying or don't know what the word means. You are either in denial or don't know what the word means.
>But you don't actually use the definition. Yes I do.
>No you haven't. Claro que sÃ. Jódete. Do I have to type in another language for you to understand?
Caleb Cruz
>You are either in denial or don't know what the word means. I know what it means, and there's nothing to be in denial of. I'm not a weeaboo.
>Yes I do. No you don't.
Hudson Ross
This Porco Rosso is his most fun and rewatchable film. The dubbed version is far superior too so you dont have to read the whole time
Christian Long
>Macross >Patlabor
I'll never understand mecha anime, just as I'll never understand the appeal of Star Wars. All I see is "kool robot fighting pew pew pew :D" But maybe there's something I'm missing, it's hugely popular for a reason I guess.
John Jenkins
>yes I can >no you can't >yes I can >yes I did >no you can't >no you didn't >no it's not >yes I have >I'm not >no you haven't >you are >yes I have fuk u >you don't >yes I have >yes I do >no you don't
are you two some kind of shitposting bot script or just autism soulmates
Julian Sanders
>literature >all 5 examples are high school essential readings KEK
Jose Martinez
One of the guys is an autist that usually replies to every post and then cries that Cred Forums doesn't want him here
Brody Garcia
I can't believe someone finally agrees with me on this. Everyone says Spirited Away is the best, and I understand it's a great film, but I have so much more great memories about Porco Rosso. And to think its concept was originally going to be used just for an airplane security guide
Jason Rivera
at first I provided an argument, but I got sick of his effortless bullshit and just played along.
Patlabor isn't about robots fighting. The movies for example have hardly any such scenes. I don't watch a lot of mecha anime but it seems like the robot fights are usually a sideshow, not the point.
Thomas Perez
I thought Paprika was pretty shit.
Thomas Wright
any cute cunnies doing cute thing animus?
Gavin Roberts
>being this much of a faggot Lighten up, bitch.
Nicholas Collins
If you want "cunnies" go watch Western movies and shows.
Bentley Parker
Yeah, Satoshi's movies are amazing but I just didn't see the point of Paprika. It felt like a meaningless trip about dreams and shit.
Dominic Thomas
It's hit or miss with people. I think its because a lot just get lost with the story which is done on purpose. Still looks amazing though and has a ton of imagination.
Alexander Scott
wtf this is illegal in my cuntry u knob -____-*
Cooper Martinez
>implying you could make highschool students read Ulysses
Jason Thomas
>Just because it's liked by kids who only watch entry level shit doesn't mean it's bad
James Thompson
Can you explain rationally what makes an anime bad just because the "wrong" people like it in the West?
Matthew Morgan
Go by directors. Satoshi Kon, Hayao Miyazaki, Isao Takahata (and Ghibli in general), Katsuhiro Otomo, Mamoru Oshii, Makoto Shinkai, Hiroyuki Okiura, Mamoru Hosoda. You can also check some movies from Rintaro or Osamu Dezaki, although normally they are based on a tv series. Some TV series have awesome movies that you don't need to watch the series for (of course, it's better if you do, but not necessary), for instance Cowboy Bebop. Some movies were summaries of the whole series, Galaxy Express comes to mind. Arcadia of my Youth is another great movie; movies in general based on Leiji Matsumoto's creations were excellent, at least up to the 80s. I recently watched The Great Adventure of Horus, Prince of the Sun and I loved it.
Jackson Butler
... Uh, yes, that's what I mean. That's like saying Kubrick movies are shit just because some normies like them now.
Tyler Sullivan
Don't forget Keiichi Hara. Watch Colorful if you haven't. Also watched Horus recently, it was so much better than I expected. Really fun watch.
Samuel Bailey
also, watch Chie the Brat and Pom Poko (both by Takahata) if you haven't. Obscure and underrated gems.
Eli Robinson
As someone else said, Patlabor isn't about it. Macross is about it. And kool robot fighting pew pew pew is actually the appeal of the genre.
Christian Walker
>Patlabor 2 >mecha pew pew
There's literally a single scene with the mechs, discounting the training sequence at the start
William Cook
>5 hours for this off-topic trash Are you happy now, /qa/ professional victim?
Asher Morales
General consensus before murricans polluted Occident's fanbase was that his best is Nausicaa.
Jaxson Hall
Nah, Space Dandy is geared towards the lowest common denominator, so think capeshit or the Fast and Furious movies.
Owen Ross
what's it about then? sorry for my ignorance, I know next to nothing about Patlabor
Michael Martin
How is it geared towards the lowest common denominator? And do you realize that lowest common denominator does not necessarily have a negative meaning?
"Lowest common denominator" has become just another cliche that people bring out when they can't come up with any real arguments.
Lucas Butler
Hey OP, just in case you're still here, I just want to recommend Tatami Galaxy. Its not a film, but its only 11 episodes and it goes by quick. People say its a meme show but its interesting enough to warrant watching it. Stay cool.
Leo Collins
I watched a few episodes and I liked it. I liked Samurai Champloo much more though. And I don't know a single person who likes capeshit or Fast and Furious that also likes Space Dandy.
Cooper Baker
Space Dandy is a show genetically engineered to appeal to imdbspawn Cred Forumsedditors with no sense of sophistication who laud meme dialog, which supports upvote groupthink mentality and meme acting with a good show pandering reddit tier post-capeshit "entertainment" sensibilities and a meme aesthetic. This is a garbage at best and is rightfully deemed as pleb trash every time it gets brought up.
Zachary Ross
How about you just watch the movies.
William Martinez
I've seen:
Summer Wars Wolf Children The Girl Who Leapt Through Time The Children Who Chase Lost Voices 5 Centimeters Per Second The Garden of Words Colorful Princess Mononoke A Letter to Momo Spirited Away Howl's Moving Castle Castle in the Sky Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind My Neighbor Totoro Kiki's Delivery Service The Wind Rises Ponyo My Neighbors the Yamadas Grave of the Fireflies Porco Rosso Arriety From Up On Poppy Hill The Cat Returns The Boy and the Beast The Tales of Earthsea When Marnie Was There The Place Promised in our Early Days Pom Poko Paprika Tokyo Godfathers Origin: Spirits of the Past Whisper of the Heart
any recommendations? I enjoy those with nice visuals but I don't mind sci-fi or spiritual/supernatural stuff.
>tfw I'm not a big anime viewer but now that I've listed the films, I've seen more than I thought I had.
Joshua Cox
Kihachiro Kawamoto
Jason Jones
I can't defend Space Dandy because I haven't watched it much, but the "Cred Forums likes it so it's bad" argument is bullshit.
Brayden Allen
If you're above 20 and enjoy its puerile humor, then you've got problems.
>lowest common denominator does not necessarily have a negative meaning
Something only a pleb would say.
Benjamin Miller
Watch actual film
Daniel Smith
>not a big anime viewer >has seen nearly every Ghibli film
Jin-Roh: Wolf Brigade is pretty lit. Same goes with anything made by Oshii. And watch Perfect Blue too, which I thought you would have seen considering you've seen Kon's other films
Alexander Evans
Pasta, but there's truth to it.
Wyatt Long
Millenium Actres, Perfect Blue, Cagliostro, Summer Days with Coo, Horus, Chie the Brat
Aiden Cooper
>The films in this chart are intended to be enjoyed by watchers of a sufficient cinematic IQ
Lucas King
It's basically about police officers solving crimes and crisis situations with or without mecha, while dealing with politics and red tape.
Space Dandy is an omnibus show made by many different people. Many episodes aren't even humorous, or not particularly so.
>Something only a pleb would say. Something someone capable of rational thinking would say.
Carter Ortiz
I know a lot of people who love Ghibli but hate anime. That's why I consider Ghibli its own genre instead of entry level anime
Sebastian Perry
alright, I'll check it out then, sounds interesting enough
Camden Rivera
>implying I don't >implying the true patrician doesn't appreciate any film both live action or otherwise
the Ghibli films are the easiest to find as they are more "mainstream" so to speak, and I'm not familiar with directors or what to look for. Usually, I will be at a place like Amoeba Music browsing movies and if I see an anime film that seems interesting, I do a google search for quick reviews before buying. So far, I've had a lot of good luck watching good anime films.
Kayden James
>I know a lot of people who love Ghibli but hate anime. Beginning with Miyazaki himself.
Jaxson Hernandez
There is non-Ghibli anime that is similar to Ghibli. People are just comparing Ghibli against something like Dragonball or some stereotype of anime they have in their heads.
Protip: Patlabor started with a series of OVAs, and was followed by two movies. The OVAs probably aren't required viewing. The TV series is a completely separate continuity and was followed by a second set of OVAs. The third movie is a spin-off that doesn't have much to do with the series.
Charles Perez
>>implying I don't What did you think of Maesta and Innocence of Memories? Both are patrician live action film and based on your post you should have seen them so lay it on me, big boy
Joshua Scott
Spirited Away is his most imaginary I'd say but the plot is weak and leaves you hanging with more questions than answers.
Nausicaa is my #4 favorite
I go 1. Porco Rosso 2. Princess Mononoke 3. Spirited Away 4. Nausicaa 5. Kiki's Delivery Service 6. Castle of Cagliostro 7. Castle in the Sky 8. Wind Rises 9. Ponyo 10 My Neighbor Totoro 11. Howl's Moving Castle
Ian Barnes
Space Dandy is the most artistic TV anime of the decade pleb
Parker Cook
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Joseph Wood
I agree, but I still find that an odd statement considering how so many Miyazaki films are filled with a bunch of weird stuff (pig flying a plane, tons of yokai, or Ponyo). But they're accessible so maybe that's why.
Hudson Richardson
>There is non-Ghibli anime that is similar to Ghibli but they're a very small amount. >People are just comparing Ghibli against something like Dragonball or some stereotype of anime they have in their heads. But stereotypes exist for a reason. I can easily find anime similar to Dragon Ball, wouldn't say the same about Ghibli.
Joseph Hall
kek, watching some obscure film from some literally who director doesn't automatically give the film patrician cred
Camden Baker
I don't know if Nausicaa if his best work or not, but I love Kiki too much. I don't care if it's inferior to others. My favorites are: 1. Kiki 2. Nausicaa 3. Chihiro 4. Porco Rosso 5. Totoro 6. Laputa 7. Cagliostro 8. Mononoke I won't even rank Howl, I think it's way too weak compared to the others. And I still didn't watch Ponyo and Wind Rises.
Carter Allen
do you like everything related to Patlabor? Is everything worth watching, even if they don't require an order, or just the movies?
Parker Bell
>But stereotypes exist for a reason. Doesn't mean it's a good reason. Nearly everything people believe about anime is untrue.
Aaron Nguyen
Neither of those are obscure and the director of the latter isn't a "literally who"
This is extremely strange considering you referred to yourself as a true patrician. Am I to believe you're actually not what you say and just another Cred Forums kiddie from Cred Forums?
Zachary Sanders
>comparing a tv series thats been running for 20 years to films
I understand that the Japanese call both tv shows and movies "anime" if they're animated, but come on
Austin Wilson
Everything except WXIII (movie 3) is good and worth watching.
Kayden Johnson
eh, are there anime or some ghibli like movies I haven't heard about yet? Because from my knowledge they're pretty scarce, so I find myself agreeing with what people believe about anime lots of times.
Isaac Torres
>Space Dandy is a comedy >this is what Cred Forums actually believes
Julian Richardson
The thing with anime is that most of it is shit they come with to fill a slot in the TV schedule. Formulaic crap (nowadays usually moe) where quality isn't the concern. But isn't that the same for tv series? In fact, how many actually good tv series would we have nowadays if it wasn't for HBO and Netflix?
Cooper Bennett
I don't think there's anything that should be skipped, except maybe for the third movie. It's a pretty good movie but hardly related to Patlabor. It's optional.
Ryder Gomez
howl is a chore to sit through. ponyo is his most kid friendly movie. wind rises is ok but long and oscar bait
Parker Murphy
I don't understand the point of this. If its saying your hobby is for people of low IQ, then switching hobbies won't change your IQ, so you might as well just stick with what your at.
Jayden Reed
The robots can tie into the story. I think the original gundam is a good example of it being used well. At first the protagonist is a dumb kid who relies on the gundams power to do well. Then over time he becomes a better pilot and improves to the point where he is fighting mecha that outstrip the gundam in power. The gundam in this case allows for a scaling of the characters growth, growing up from a boy who relies on having the strongest tool, to a trained soldier who makes the best use of his tool.
Furthermore, mecha are just cool. They symbolise humanities growth. In these universes, humanity has grown so powerful that it can make moving metal gods in its own image.
There's varity in how mecha appeals to different people too. For example, in VOTOMS the mecha are cool because they're numerous and disposable. The director of that show talked about this in an interview, stating that he was ibspired by how much surplus millitary stuff was left over in Japan like jeeps. The disposable nature of thr mecha in VOTOMS lends itself to an atmosphere in which nothing is safe, or sacred. It's very dirty and oily. On the other side of the spectrum, you have mecha that act like super heroes. Evas are cool because they're mysterious and one of a kind. They're like walking gods. The fact that there's only three of them can create some tense situations in which the characters have to make do with limited capabilties when one is damaged.
Of course there's also the fact that they make good toys.
Jaxson Sullivan
In terms of viewing order, there's 2 timelines (going by the back of the Bluray cases) Movie Timeline: Original OVA series -> Patlabor The Movie -> WXIII: Patlabor 3 -> Patlabor 2 Television Timeline: Television Series -> The New Files
Anthony Robinson
Can someone describe what "Ghibli-like" is? Cause its been thrown around in this thread a lot and I don't know what its supposed to mean
Angel Smith
People who say Ghibli-like probably just mean Miyazaki-like since Takahata's films are very different
Noah Myers
whimsy instead of sexborgs and exploding concrete
Carson Adams
I personally mean "Miyazaki or Takahata-like".
Eli Gray
Mai Mai Miracle, Flying Witch, Wolf Children, A Letter to Momo, Oblivion Island, Children Who Chase Lost Voices, Amanchu, Yokohama Shopping Log, Gingitsune, Kamichu, Non Non Biyori and Tamayura are some anime that more or less remind me of Ghibli (some much more than others, e.g. Flying Witch is really obviously inspired by Ghibli).
Jason Phillips
>anime is only sexborgs and exploding concrete
Colton Robinson
a lot of the time, yea. reason why people still see the medium being for boys and manchildren. if everyday people saw Tokyo Godfathers that would change.
Daniel Foster
The reasons why people have certain perceptions about anime have very little to do with what kind of anime exists.
Oliver Moore
That's what most shounen is about. In mecha the robots are used for character growth. In martial arts anime it's going to be the refinement of their techniques and learning new things. Same in sports, it's more often than not that the main character gets to the sport by chance (Touch, Slam Dunk, Hajime no Ippo) and through practice he learns to understand and love the sport he plays more, and it even becomes a tool that improves his social life. The pilot of a robot usually finds his place in society and hones his skills throughout the run of the series. It gives him a reason to be, same as others find it in sports, art, science, any other discipline or craft. A way to socialize and to be of use to society. But anyone who doesn't understand that about mecha anime doesn't understand what shounen anime is about at all.
Jonathan Sanders
it seems to me the loudest voices in the anime community appreciate fine storytelling like naruto and DBZ, run around hotel ballrooms in pink wigs, and collect plastic figurines.
Owen Cox
Or its a large community of insufferable faggots who collect figurines and only watch slice-of-life romance shows
Jack Rodriguez
Maybe people shouldn't be using fans or perceived fans as a proxy for evaluating whatever it is that they are fans of.
If I took the anime community seriously I don't think I would even watch anime.
Isaiah Mitchell
Basically this. Having the kid fall into the cockpit forces responsibility upon them and forces them to grow.
Robots also give directors an excuse to talk about war and conflict. It's easier to sell a war drama as an animation to the executives if you include some flashy robots to sell as toys. For example, Dougram could work as a war story about guerillas hiding out in the bush. But it's harder to sell that to Sunrise execs so they include robots to sell it to kids. There are some episodes in which the robot fights only last a few minutes because the director wanted to talk about the settings economics or politics. Originally Mobile Suit Gundam wasn't going to have mecha at all, only power armour. However Tomino was told that the aforementioned armour had to be at least 15 meters tall or the show wouldn't get made.
Jason Brooks
I'm just saying that I find it unsurprising that normal people would think anime is stupid after seeing the kind of shit that happens at anime conventions
Nicholas Powell
Anime pros don't deal with "executives" like their counterparts in America do, and most mecha anime these days is late night anime.
Gundam's great success had nothing to do with toys, it was the model kits and the series itself (as a story) that made it a success.
Gabriel Reed
Most of them are kids going through a phase. Many of them eventually diverge and, even though they might still watch a shitty anime or two, stop being active in the community. But honestly, what do we expect kids tastes to be about? Kids usually like shitty music, watch teenage drama tv crap, of course that they'll like the worst anime has to offer. It's only natural they won't go for Ghibli or Kon or whoever else you might think about, they'll watch whatever is trendy inside their niche and that's about it.
Nathaniel Lewis
Dragon Ball Z Kai
DBZ is as entry level as it gets but it doesn't stop it from being kino. You can progress to the superior shonen Yu Yu Hakusho once you're finished
Nolan Young
Gundam would never have been made in the first place if it wasn't for toys though.