Unless they are the goofy kind of cornball shit that sells regardless, why not have it out with them?
Why don't we call superheroes out on their politics? They are all a bunch of fascist cunts, you know it, I know it, we all know it. But the minute anybody utters the word "politics" its like ohhh noo, suddenly they are "apolitical" when just 5 minutes ago they were giving speeches on how to raise your kids.
How many times are we going to have to hear the "Captain America Speech" before somebody drops some hard truth on these kids?
Angel Wright
The Dark Knight rises was nothing but a primer for getting us used to NSA surveillance. I mean, obviously if Batman is using our cell phones to spy on the Joker, then it must be okay for the government to do it, right?
Just own it. The shit is straight up propaganda.
Ethan Gutierrez
99% of American comic book writers aren't competent enough to handle political writing.
Benjamin Adams
Because they never really have been.
You cunts don't understand marketing and pandering despite how much you scream it. It's why Cred Forums is the worst board. /pol, /lgbt/, and Cred Forums are fags, but you can enjoy the rage. Here it's just like talking to a woman who does nothing, but drink red wine while reading the same essay on the meaning behind some Young Adult novel for the 5th time today while steadily growing a fupa.
John Peterson
>Because they never really have been. What unspecified question is this an answer to?
Adrian Nelson
>You cunts don't understand marketing and pandering despite how much you scream it. It's why Cred Forums is the worst board. /pol, /lgbt/, and Cred Forums are fags, but you can enjoy the rage. Here it's just like talking to a woman who does nothing, but drink red wine while reading the same essay on the meaning behind some Young Adult novel for the 5th time today while steadily growing a fupa.
Hi Susan, how are the kids?
Michael Myers
I'm like a fucking junkie. I scream about how much I hate comics when the truth is I just want harder and harder shit.
I them to fuck my mind raw.
Dominic Hill
Oh dear...
Blake Miller
Because something something tumblr, something something cucks.
Juan Perry
They should, but since the vast majority of comics are superhero fiction and the very idea of superhero fiction is pretty old fashioned and conservative in nature, it doesn't really work when they espouse the liberal sensibilities that contemporary authors usually have.
Jackson Jones
Comics are for kids
Luis Bell
This
Kevin Sanchez
Because almost all of the time when cape comics try to be political, it devolves either into straight-up shilling the opinions of the writer, or hamfisted satire about the things the writer doesn't like.
And even if you get the rare writer who can do a good political story, superheroes are a bad genre for it. It just gets really awkward when you try to do serious, real-world political stuff when your vehicle for it is an invincible man in a circus costume who is as far removed from real-world politics as it gets.
There's literally no reason why you can't do political comics outside of the cape genre though.
Kayden Ross
so big fan of marvel i take it.
Jacob Adams
Dude, did you not read what I said?
I said Comics Already ARE political. They are clearly promoting a fascist ideology.
Liam Sanders
>They are clearly promoting a fascist ideology How's Philosophy 101 treating you.
Justin Rivera
>random people taking the law into their own hands and dispensing justice on their own volition I'm not sure if I see the fascism here.
Jacob Cox
liberals don't read non-web comics anyway.
Elijah Robinson
>the us market is bigger the the franco-Belgian market and the Manga market Fuck off
Caleb Rivera
Sorry I thought this was an English-language imageboard for English language comics and cartoons.
Aiden Hernandez
Except Fox resigned because of it and Batman blew the system up.
Christ, no one read comics and now no one even watches the fucking movies.
Michael James
That doesn't Matter!
Don't you see that set the precedent?
Don't you think its odd that it came out right about the time NSA shit started hitting mainstream media?
Andrew Wilson
it's an anime imageboard get it right
Mason Long
First off all then you're but fuck retared Second of all what the hell does that have to do with anything I just said?
Michael Hernandez
Isn't Batmans whole fucking schtick that he should "kill the joker"?
Its bullshit, man! If you use it once whats to keep you from using it again when the next big bad comes along and jobs?
Aaron Lewis
The fact he destroyed it because he didn't trust it.
Henry Myers
Because often comic book writers are biased as fuck while knowing jackshit about anything. Stupid opinions should be kept to their stupid selves.
Blake Diaz
Doesn't matter. He built it. He used it. And he'd do it again. Thats the fucking point. That's the hard sell. Its the writers fascist ideology creeping into the script, poisoning our young minds.
You might as well have Superman join the army and play paddleball with al queidas ballsacks
Nathaniel Miller
>It's why Cred Forums is the worst board.
Then get the fuck out.
Jeremiah Rivera
This. And thats before you get into the fact the past and current US politician factions is very shit. There is a reason parodies runs completely rampant.
Gabriel Davis
How soon before superman starts torturing people? How long before Batman builds a god damn internment camp?
How much longer before they take everything you ever knew and loved about comics and twist everything they ever stood for or you ever believed in into something wretched and vile?
Nicholas Cruz
They did that over 10 years ago. But he can't do it again. And that's not getting into the fact he quit like a little bitch like five minutes after the movie ended.
Joseph Wilson
This, just look at pic related.
Colton Wright
>But he can't do it again of course he can. just build it again from scratch. whats stopping him?
Charles Thomas
Lack of Lucius.
Joshua Carter
Because different opinions trigger me and the entire medium should be my own personal safe space.
Isaiah Evans
again, comics already are political. They are constantly replacing main title characters with minorities, espousing different points of view on modern issues, and wrapping their political propaganda in vague psuedo metaphores.
Then they have the GALL to turn around and say, "But comics aren't political! They are for kids!"
If comics are just "kids stuff" then why don't they go back to the camp stuff in the 60's and 70's? Because they are selling you their political nonsense, thats why!
The only thing your doing when you say "No politics in comics" is denying others a forum to voice their opinions.
Owen Nguyen
He doesn't need lucious.
Hes a fucking billionaire. He'll find someone else.
Chase Gonzalez
Another confidant he could trust? Because it's not like Lucius was one of the best nor Bruce has trust issues and in the movie alone he got found out by some douchebag accountant.
Eli Johnson
Every firm of art has politically driven narratives. My major problem with comics is that it only mimic and generalize current events and then tries to promote a singular stance or position, which in the end takes away the audiences reason to, well...think.
Tl:dr the medium ends up just become a propaganda tool for who ever desires at that point. They don't let you find your own opinions, and sticks you with either one they give you.
Jose Campbell
>I don't read comics, I only read about them on Cred Forums.
Eli Williams
>Why Shouldn't Comics Be Political? is this the beginning of another *-gate movement? Will it be called Comic Gate??
Benjamin Hall
You're deflecting the point.
The point is that it was a primer, to get people used to the idea of a surveillance state.
The fact that he destroyed it is just a cover for the fact that he used it.
Chase Ross
>Wanting to be constantly surrounded by politics and their discussion >wanting to be consistently annoyed and argued with by people here AND irl What the fuck is wrong with you? There's a time and a place for this shit. >the minute anybody utters the word "politics" its like ohhh noo, suddenly they are "apolitical" when just 5 minutes ago they were giving speeches on how to raise your kids. Because politics is a conversational minefield that no one likes doing in person. Online you can pause, take a break, fact check. Irl? You're stuck until there's a winner, or you/they give up, which is draining on anyone. You dumbass, the only reason this would be a shock is you've never gone to hang out with friends and ended up arguing, I'm sorry "discussing", about politics. It can end friendships FYI, hence why people don't like doing it. Happened to me, but we patched things up thank goodness, it was a stupid argument, too, like most political ones.
Leo Nguyen
All highlighting sexuality and race in comics does is detract away from the fact that comics moral center is being corrupted.
Everytime you replace a white character with a negro or have another chick come out of the closet as bi, you're simply distracting from the fact that the forum is being perverted to promote an agenda of pro-authoritarian, anti-democratic propaganda
Evan Bell
What's going on here?
Camden Allen
>>the minute anybody utters the word "politics" its like ohhh noo, suddenly they are "apolitical" when just 5 minutes ago they were giving speeches on how to raise your kids.
Did you not read the context of this sentance?
COMICS ALREADY ARE POLITICAL
But nobody has the god damn GUTS to call them out on their shit.
Henry Jenkins
If you knew your friend was willing to resort to violence in order to force you to do what he believed you should do, then why are you still friends with him?
If your friend is willing to stick a fucking shiv in your gut because he hates muslims and thinks they should be put in work camps, hes not really your fucking friend, is he?
Landon Johnson
Comics have always been political.
Dylan Perry
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Landon Gutierrez
Comics can be political, no one denies that. The problem is mixing politics and fantasy tends to really contort and confuse any possible message; there are very, very few works that make this work.
Hudson Russell
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Aaron Mitchell
I wish I could have heard the phone call between Gaines and Judge Murphy
Camden Rogers
If somebody votes to have someone put in a camp, that shows their true nature. That IS who they are. There is no reaching out to them. There is no reasoning with them. The only thing they need to understand is force.
James Anderson
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Nicholas Price
Your doubling back.
You're pretending like its "just for funsies" when you damn well KNOW there is a message involved.
Stop making excuses for them.
Owen Turner
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Jeremiah Sanchez
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William Watson
Here's what you, and every one that shares the opinion of "Why shouldn't comics be X" need to understand:
It's completely irrelevant.
What is relevant is the quality of the work. The political content of a comic is irrelevant to it's quality.
I've read and enjoyed incredible comics that were pretty much against my political ideologies while I read complete trite that shared my values.
The question: "Why shouldn't comics be political?" is irrelevant.
Brandon Nguyen
But things can have a message and still be for children. In fact most things that are for children have a message
Elijah Lee
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Carter Reed
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Ryder Moore
Is this Tomorrow is a good comic and it's all true
Cameron Hernandez
But almost all your marketing data shows that most comic books are consumed by ADULTS, people in their 20's and 30's
Adult comics should have adult values.
Logan Thompson
That kind of thinking is why we don't have Kamadi by Paul Pope.
Dylan King
>superheroes are a bad genre for it. It just gets really awkward when you try to do serious, real-world political stuff when your vehicle for it is an invincible man in a circus costume who is as far removed from real-world politics as it gets. Depends on the hero, the authorities was well suited for handling political subjects
Joseph Turner
What do I care?
Thats a YELLOW pumpkin!
Benjamin Brown
Comics aren't just superheroes.
The marriage of images and text in the comics format is very powerful tho, and since at least the time of the comics code authority politics has always been in comics as we know them. Political cartoons might be shit now but centuries ago their power was understood.
Joseph Morgan
Your the same kind of person who complains that Disney creates an unhealthy fantasy world for children.
What I'm saying is that every cape comic needs an adult allegory. Captain America needs a Sgt. Glory, an super soldier junkie vietnam vet whos seen some shit.
There should be a whole line of parodies that suckerpunch you the way cape comics do.
Isaac Cruz
You know what? You know what fuckers?
I LIKED superman IV. And I bet if you had the balls you would admit that you liked it too.
John Allen
>Your the same kind of person who complains that Disney creates an unhealthy fantasy world for children. No I'm not, I love Disney.
Xavier Reed
Oh. Well then.
Get your syrupy sweet saccharine ass out of here. Men are talking.
Jaxson Foster
Really? Cause right now it kinda seems like I'm talking to a bitch?
Asher Murphy
They were suited for handling superhero-related politics, not real-world stuff. All that goes out of the window when your protagonists are untouchable demigods so far above the common man that laws and politics can't even touch them.
Elijah Martin
Of course they should. The greatest comic writer of all time was very political.
Nolan James
Damn, those things are cute!
Henry Edwards
Fuck yeah they are. Japan gets all the super cute ones though
Samuel Johnson
I read fiction to get away from reality. I don't want to turn off the tv because I'm annoyed with a shitty story and open a book to read more about the shitty story ft superheroes.
Julian Bennett
Theres nothing bad about comics being political exactly, its just that 9/10 the writer/developer/director doing it is utterly retarded and ends up screwing up so bad its an embarrassing mess.
Adrian Hall
The vast majority of storytelling art is political, even if not explicitly or hamfistedly so.