World War III

Let's not say normal, but civilizations would still exist and new major powers would emerge with countries like US, Russia and China gone.

Einstein didn't know what he was talking about. Yes, a proper nuclear war would leave countless dead, but it wouldn't mean the end of the world or ending of the civilization as we know it in many parts of the world.

I almost want WW3 to happen, just so humanity can get a new start.

I do wonder, after complete global destruction, would survivors would continue to hold to their previous ideals? Or would they abandon them for the sake of survival?

>Working out IT security certs
>Tfw I'll be drafted to fight chinks and ruskies in cyberspace

I hope my commanding officer lets me wear my power glove, 3Dglasses and allows me to address him as "Brotendo"

ICBMs trashing Us Europe Russia China middle east Japan (just because) Koreas and everything in between. Pretty much fallout for survivors. Africa is left to be cause no one will spare a nuke on worthless niggers here, maybe Aussies will live too.

This were the targets from the usa with the cold war

If some one starts to throw nukes we all throw nukes its the samson option , do you think the jews would let the filty goyim live while they die
,israel already has 200 nukes

the planet would probably not even survive

World War 3 is going down sometime between 2019 and 2025, but my best bet is end of 2020.

It will be between Russia (+ some allies) and NATO.

Whoever America is fighting knocks out our power grid and other utilities immediately. No power for the entire USA and the part that they would likely break via hacking is huge, custom made, and takes months to replace. Best case scenario we would have power again in 6 months. Millions of Americans would die.

Our Military would probably win the war but it would fucking suck

It's coming, and only Jesus can save us.
So don't worry, we win, brother user.

>A 2014 report published in the journal Earth's Future found that even a regional war of 100 nuclear detonations would produce 5 teragrams of black soot (that's 5,000,000,000 kg!) that would rise up to Earth's stratosphere and block sunlight. This would produce a sudden drop in global temperatures that could last longer than 25 years and temporarily destroy much of the Earth's protective ozone layer. This could also cause as much as an 80% increase in UV radiation on Earth's surface and destroy both land and sea-based ecosystems, potentially leading to global nuclear famine.

It'll be exactly like "The Road". No new powers will emerge. Humanity would be set back 10,000 years, if enough of us would even survive

How do you know this? Moar info? Quite interested!

>US farts
>Kim Jong says its too smelly, nuke his ass
>US says sorry, eating the Russians gave me gas
>Kim goes ape mode, presses nuke button

I hope your joking. We had scares from radiation over the japan nuclear plant meltdown because of wind paths.

A nuclear exchange between anyone would trigger a reactionary nuclear war. Very few would survive, if any. Radiation would drift through wind currents, poison land and water, kill wildlife.

Anybody who did live, would be living a miserable life. If the human race managed to survive, we'd basically be at square one with most of the world poisoned and uninhabitable. Think Chernobyl on a global scale.

That report assumes ground burst nukes. In other words: it's full of shit.

don't you feel like we are in the midst of world war 3 already?

Modern nuclear detonations are a fraction of the leaks at Chernobyl and Fukushima. Fallout is still a thing, but it's nowhere what it was. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were far dirtier than anything that might occur in the modern era.

We'll be okay

Sup nate

>What happens if WWII [sic] actually goes down?

Japan gets nuked, Germany is defeated.

WWIII has already happened. It was a world war involving satellite states popularly called the Cold War. Russia's economy went bankrupt and the Berlin Wall fell.

If you mean WWIV, then I have no fucking clue because you gave me literally nothing to go on.

>Live right next to a military base that holds all the nuclear missiles in my state

I'm fucked.

WW IV is the global war on terrorism/drugs.

Its an ongoing conflict where countries can dump recources.

Well, as "clean" as these nukes may be, I, and most people I know are fucked if there is an all out nuclear war.

>T. Florida fag.

Not that much soot is going to reach the atmosphere even from a global conflict.

That's because bad news sell, radiation's a meme. Sure, it's not pleasant to be exact and it'll lead to health problems but for most people it would show mostly on the DNA level or minor physical defects. Starvation and disease will be bigger problems which are regional issues.

Burgers, plz, choose Trump, I do not want to kill anyone but if you choose witch war is inevitable.

There was a thread ages ago by some guy who claimed to be a relative of the "Rothschild" family. It was probably bait but he said those years for WW3 and I was surprised because that was the same as my guess.

Reading through the thread was still interesting nonetheless.

Thanks m8. I always knew I could count on you.

Come West, young man. There's plenty of land and the reality of airburst means that if you're located in the right spot you won't even get weather related radiation except that which comes after the first rain (and quickly dissipates).

Mы знaeм, дpyг.

As soon as global instability takes hold, israel launches nukes worldwide

>radiation is a meme.

That guy looks fine. He's not bleeding...much. He'll be fine!

>Come west
I plan to. I hate Florida, and it's not even like you could build a nuclear shelter here. If you dig 2 feet down, you'll see water.

you also can't have children now

>nukes release amounts of radiation comparable to uranium refinement center / power plant yields

Some folks would look that yeah but not the vast majority and the radiation from Japan wouldn't have turned you into a lobster. People seem to forget that there's a fuckton of radiation in the modern society.

He's aight.

I just think the idea that we could break out into an actual war is kind of scary, yet at the same time I feel like it might not be the worst option, assuming nukes don't go off.

>theres a black dot right on my city that I thought was rural enough to go under the radar

Damn

>top scientist with IQ of 160+
>has no idea what he's talking about

go back to your sauna

Skimmed through most of it, but that was an interesting thread. I want to assume it was just a troll, but there is always that possibility.

nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

If they throw a 100 mt bomb on all the dots , not 1 person in the usa would survive , and russia has a new nuke just one nuke what can destroy texas

For some reason I read your post as "theres a black dot right on my clit..."

You can imagine I was very confused.

>If they throw a 100 mt bomb on all the dots
They don't have anywhere near the capability.

>and russia has a new nuke just one nuke what can destroy texas
lolno. Stop spreading bullshit. The largest nuke in Russia's current arsenal isn't even big enough to take out New York.

Doesn't mean he's not wrong. Even if you were to use all the nuclear weapons in order to wipe out humanity, you would not succeed but that's not what the potential large-scale nuclear war will be about.

That is assuming all the nukes arent intercepted. Im sure we have anti nuke defence systems like in my video games right?

he's probably talking about the tsar, AKA the bomb that literally couldn't be launched nor dropped as it weighed fucking 27 tons.

As for the topic at hand, I try not to think about it. I'm not terrified of many things anymore, I don't fear death, i've come to terms that it's an inevitability, but... Nuclear war is just something else.

I'm well aware what he's talking about and he's talking a load of shit.

>what if the wrong people end up winning
just to be clear, the op DID say WWII in his hypothetical.

He did not say it will wipe out humanity but that it would put humanity back in the stone age.
"I don't know how third world war will be fought, but I know that the fourth will be fought using stick and stones."

I agree, specially since the tsar was like... what was it, 65mt?

I know man. I am the OP. That's why I ask what, hypothetically, would happen if the worst side wins.

wont happen because the russians are weak as piss and would be obliterate.

Only russian propagandists and those who consume it do not realize this.

Lol I dont have a black dot on my clit much less do I have a clit

mirror.co.uk/tech/russia-test-unstoppable-satan-2-7935675

propaganda then?

that's why I was so confused! We all know women aren't on the internet, much less Cred Forums, even less on Cred Forums.

Thread reminder to watch Threads
vimeo.com/18781528

It was 100 mt, but it's incapable of being miniaturized so it's completely irrelevant unless the goal is for Russia to nuke Russia.

>Russian sources claim in a Russian government mouthpiece
>test in summer but summer is over
>online by 2020
Yeah, it's horseshit. The article itself is very misleading as to whether or not it's an individual warhead or a MIRV. It's as truthful as their cobalt torpedoes.

I thought Scandinavia was supposed to have the best education on the planet?

And even that's not going to happen, I understand perfectly what he was trying to say but currently there's just not enough nuclear arms in the existence to wipe out civilization. A fuckton of people would die and it would be a miserable world for those in the hit zones, but after the nuclear winter it's smooth sailing. 19th century at best and even then people would still retain 21st century knowledge, many gadgets and tools. Rebuilding takes time and it'll be anywhere from 20 to 50 years, not 10 000 years.

that's a picture of potential targets

ww3 confirmed.

Yeah.
He doesnt know how to stop the atoms

That scene, where it cuts to silence gives me a sharp pain in my side every time I rewatch. Great movie.

Have bert the turtle, a 50s US informational childrens video on nuclear blast preparedness
youtube.com/watch?v=IKqXu-5jw60

and the protect and serve mid 70s UK informational programmes
youtube.com/watch?v=m6U9T3R3EQg

youtube.com/shared?ci=g5kRevya1Ag

Me no want to lose all the modern-day commodities that I have and that are available - I do not wish for WW3.

WWIII will start when pakistan gets fed up with india hogging all the water. matter of time boys

>And even that's not going to happen, I understand perfectly what he was trying to say but currently there's just not enough nuclear arms in the existence to wipe out civilization.
>Currently
I don't really know how these things work but I suppose that once nuclear war would start countries like USA and Russia would be quick to stock up their aresnals.

Explain me how I'm wrong, then. Most people caught in the death zone of a nuke would look like that, not those tens of miles away.

Nuclear exchanges happen over a matter of minutes or hours, not months or years. There isn't enough time from N-1 to stock up on weapons.

From Wikipedia, we have 14 ssbns.
If carrying 24 Trident missiles with 4 W-88's each that's 45,600 kt. The equivalent of 100,320,000,000 pounds of TNT.

Hiroshima was 13 kt, and Nagasaki was 21 kt.

Each W-88 is capable of being targeted to it's own individual location.

>Detroit
Wtf I hate peace now

I dont think it will happen because everyone's too strong. Every country knows that the other countries have nukes and there would be retaliation strikes. Despite some countries being shit they want to self preserve. It's going to remain petty squabbles because if it goes higher than that everyone loses.

Central and Eastern Europe would get toasted, retaliations against Russia destroying many cities, China trying to climb in the vast empty space that is Eastern Russia, China nuke North Korea because if they do not, they will only have to do it later, China gets to do as it wants in far east, USA could escape it if the Russians nuke Europe first them get done in themselves before they can get any / many off at the USA.

UK subs will be conveniently in the South Atlantic so will not fire any nukes, France to nuke South West Russia to stop advances.

Much of middle Europe destroyed, Russia BTFO and no US threats against Chinese in far East is outcome.

Even if UK gets hit, would be London, Birmingham, Southampton, would be doing us a favour really. Maybe the nuke base at Glasgow.

Any target anywhere near me and the most that would happen directly from the bomb is possibility of 3rd degree burns at worst.

Being a nuclear physicist does not mean you can predict the future in a field that is not your own.

Sure. Most people would die immediately. But that isn't what you said. You said nukes don't release as much radiation as a uranium enrichment facility. The fuck do you think a nuke is?

Basically stock up on porn, food and vidya and hope Philips don't get hit.

Unless China decides to fuck our asses.

That was in reference to the guy in the picture who suffered the accident he had in one and a single nuke hardly produces the amount of radiation that place does.

He's not wrong actually. Nuclear power plant leaks unleash far more rads than the quick burst of nuclear weapons. It's also far more lasting. You can visit the testing fields of Southwest today without any harm and they were nuked weekly for DECADES. You still can't enter much of the Chernobyl containment zone without protective equipment.

The energy released from a nuclear weapon detonated in the troposphere can be divided into four basic categories:[1]

Blast—40–50% of total energy
Thermal radiation—30–50% of total energy
Ionizing radiation—5% of total energy (more in a neutron bomb)
Residual radiation—5–10% of total energy with the mass of the explosion

>50% of a megaton explosion in radiation is less radiation than running 238 through a centrifuge

the west goes full retard. germany gets nuked by france to keep russia at bay. they said it was a mechanical failure but the UK doesnt believe them and nukes france and the united states nukes them for nuking france

this is done to get rid of mudslimes without looking like nazis. russia is strung along with this promise of white unity but china had snowden first. they have a step by step method for americas spy program and reverse engineered what they were not given. they know

outside of a city china had a underground city below the bedrock like 2 miles below. not sure if you have seen the nuke craters from japan after the 2 nukes got used but they dont burrow. path of least resistance is up and out not down. the nuke pushes off the ground

they have tunnels below the bedrock and unleash hell on russia and by sub on the us. north america gets emp'ed into the stone age. starvation and lawlessness follow in america and canada

to quote Dr. Strangelove, it is not only possible. it is essential
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The only factor is time. Sure, a nuke plant will make more radiation over its 40-50 year life span, but day to day? Or over a single reaction?

I don't think there will ever be WWIII because of mutually assured destruction. That is why since WWII there have only been proxy wars.

first of all let's get something established
nukes would be used but would they be a problem? no.
a little piece of tech we call interceptor missiles could take those things out before they re entered the atmosphere

>muh astrology
really nigga?

World's population cut in half within the first two months if not much quicker. Entire countries will be obliterated. Widespread rioting and looting in most major metropolises. Rampant crime of all kind worldwide, law enforcement will stop caring and even disband in many places to be with family. Militias of varying size and power will pop all over the place in nearly every country with a variety of intentions. It'll take decades to recover.

>Would the war be fought on US soil this time?

Invading the U.S. would be extremely difficult.. Any fighting done in the U.S. will likely be done among the citizens, like we already see happening. I can see WWIII not only being a war between world superpowers, but also igniting a worldwide race war and Holy war at the same time.

I really don't know senpai. But it's fun to think about. WWIII is going to be a very complicated one. It'll be interesting to see what role Islam plays in it.

Guess I could phrase that into "radiation harmful for humans / other living beings". While the radiation nuke creates is a bitch, it's nowhere the biggest problem a nuke can generate. Most of the radiation will be gone relatively soon after the explosion.

It won't, it never ever will because of M.A.D.

mad isn't a policy, never has been
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Actually, studies show that the initial radiation at Chernobyl were higher than the average airburst nuclear weapon. It's only when compared to groundburst nuclear weapons but the "fallout" (RE: lingering radiation) from Chernobyl is still greater in comparison.

Either way, check out page 8 of this document and hell read the whole thing. It's rather enlightening.

iaea.org/inis/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/28/058/28058918.pdf

>Compared with other nuclear events: The Chernobyl
explosion put 400 times more radioactive material
into the Earth's atmosphere than the atomic bomb
dropped on Hiroshima; atomic weapons tests conducted
in the 1950s and 1960s all together are estimated
to have put some 100 to 1,000 times more
radioactive material into the atmosphere than the
Chernobyl accident

It took decades worth of weekly and often daily groundburst nuclear tests to outproduce what Chernobyl churned out in ten days.

>WWII
>What is Hitler?

>those places with huge amounts of black dots
What did they mean by this?

It's where a lot of the active U.S. nuclear arsenal was once (and probably still is) kept.