>you will never live in Third Reich >you will never feel like a part of a gigantic tribe of your Volk >you will never feel that everyone on the street is your brother in that tribe >you will never help, and be helped, by your countrymen >you will never have 100% pro-nation TV, press and spirit in your country
>you will always live like a slave, barely talking to your neighbours, wageslaving your life away, filling your life with pointless shit like new car or new TV, watching as they take your money, your country, your freedom
Do you even live up to the standards of nazI Germany's ideal man in the first place or are you just a loser with no stake in the world?
Look at me I am your brother now
My great grandfather was a german soldier, so I have more in common with Third Reich than you, pal I am 26, technical degree, good moneyz so what? it feels so empty after taking the red pill
third reich sucks kaiser rocks
>Mfw the bad guys won.
It's a lie, a trick.
The Pole kike attempts to deceive us.
No wife? No girlfriend? No ambition to become a man other aspire to be?
You're a free rider.
Isn't it cuckish for a Slav to be so obssesed with Nazi Germany? They considered us untermensch, I'm glad the Ruskies emancipated us. And would gladly march towards Berlin wih the Red Army completely wrecking the "ubermensch" as I go along. Feels good to be Slav. It often seems to me like Cred Forums forgets who won the war and how the current situation is looking. Germany is in shit, while our countries are economically growing and are probably going to remain the last European countries by nationality in a few decades. Enjoy your heritage and country of origin Pole-bro, be a proud Slav.
>you will never live under the dictatorial government of a security-obsessed social progressive liberal >you will never live under socialism feels good man
Protip: Almost every Polack that lives in Pommern or Schlesien had an ancestor in German troops
we were germonz then
>ubermensch >untermensch communist lies actually these words were used and spread by commies, to encourage soldiers to fight
>you will never live in Third Reich.
Good. Does Cred Forums even know what totalitarianism is? Do they fucking forget that?
Could you please remind me what it is? What exactly was wrong in living in 1938 Germany?
Only Israel lives like that today.
some people have a individuality I know weaklings would prefer if some stronger statement would protect and think for them and all, but realize that its not everyones ideal.
Oh, it's you again. Why don't you fuck off to Germany, Volksdeutsche scum?
Haha no. Jews in israel screw each other over all the time. It's just their nature. Also, it's not very well known but israel has just a big a problem with Antifags as germany and England. It's an incredibly divided nation.
Are you retarded or just trolling? Hitler clearly stated in Mein Kampf that the Nordic aryans were in his opinion superior to any other race. Communist lies - still better than nazi propaganda lies.
So how exactly would your "individuality" suffer under totalitarism, you moron?
You could play football, go out with friends, talk to girls, read books, any fucking thing normal people do. Oh wait, you're probably a faggot then.
Don't forget christian
>weh criminals, jews & gypos are put to death >a bad thing
Fuck off faggot
user, all we need is a hitler. There are millions of us, we will have our third reich but need our fuhrer to organize it
>complaining when you were born just in time for the fourth reich
Kys my man
ITT German cucks.
>jew infested TV >jew infested Internet >white pride movement damned forever >breeding out of your race is considered "ok" Fourth reich my ass it's over, the world has ended in 1945
>tfw you could be ratted out by your cunty neighbours any day if they feel like it by simply framing you for being something you're not >tfw your children are encouraged to spy on you >tfw living in a cultist state
>tfw the state will put your family in a camp for harmless activities like listening to certain types of music and their memory will be brushed off as less than nothing by some faggy teenagers with a boner for despots some decades later
Yeah, because obviously only Jews hate German Nazis in Poland. The very people who left the country a shell of itself.
Literally everything you just said expect the cultist state part
I think you either watch too much Hollyjew movies or you believe Third Reich was just like North Korea
The spirit of people. The spirit, that came from the bottom, from you and me, from the simple man. Simple man has nothing to fear. Hard working man has nothing to fear. Only a thief, jew or a fag would feel insecure.
what stops your from creating your utopia. just gather a few buddies and settle somewhere in america.
What.. he can be happy that we put every jew in the train otherwise they would be cucked like Sven nowadays..
Why should i have to abandon my country for my political views?
Democracy says all we need is votes to gas kikes again ^)
>>tfw you could be ratted out by your cunty neighbours any day if they feel like it by simply framing you for being something you're not >>tfw your children are encouraged to spy on you >>tfw living in a cultist state watch more movies
>Uses niche unsourced YouTube videos as evidence Opinion disregarded, holy shit. I bet you think 'The Greatest Story Never Told' is a completely accurate portrayal of Hitler, don't you?
Are you that one British NatSoc that absolutely worships the fuck out of the Nazis that I see in so many threads? Lmao
>I think you either watch too much Hollyjew movies or you believe Third Reich was just like North Korea No. I don't watch Hollywood movies anymore and I am very, very well-researched when it comes to the Nazis from good sources, both primary and secondary. >Only a thief, jew or a fag would feel insecure. Don't forget poles. :^)
>Backwards Swastika REEEEEE
My grandfather sure worked his ass off in Liban as a 16 year old. Or his older brothers, who were marched off for forced labour in Germany.
It's not the DDR anglo
It's from inside the building
This man gets it
>Opinion disregarded, holy shit. I bet you think 'The Greatest Story Never Told' is a completely accurate portrayal of Hitler, don't you? Yes, because its sourced.
Of course you dismiss those sources out of hand because you don't want to accept the truth.
Hell, you probably even believe the Holocaust happened.
No, thats false Both hitler and goebbels said übermensh and untermenach exists in all people, no matter what race, religion you are. Its about making yourself a better person. Wtf is this shit about Aryan? Why is everyone talking about that, this is school tier
okey my friend, what stops you from doing it in the UK? why do you need to get everyone on board? does national socialism only work when you have enough people or something?
>school tier This is exactly what has been taught in school since the 1950's. That Germans were evil madmen who thought they were better than any nation on earth and wanted to put everyone to the oven. And average Joe, Hans and Jan believe that.
This is so fucking wrong, god
no arguments, lovely. its almost as if you knew that it wouldn't work.
And I love to read those stupid articles on major internet sites that wonder "How come Germans fell for this? Such a cultural, european nation became murderers? It seems so evil!!!"
Maybe they didnt fall for this, because it's just a jewish lie?
Sourced it may be, but purposefully misrepresents a whole lot of the facts and outright lies about some things. I'll have to go back and watch it some time and make a list of all the bullshit it's got in it. It's like some poor tankie's attempt to make Stalin out to be a fucking saint.
aaaaaand he does, GG Naziboo, go tell your gran that you're a NatSoc. Got some Farage if it'll make you answer my post better.
it wouldn't work because the gov would come and shut us down for false imprisonment and any other charge they can think off to stop us
Go back and make a list then faggot, come back when you have it
Its really sad. Even the nationalists hate National-Socialism. Everyones becoming ZOG without noticing, just live conservatism, people dont realize theyre obeying and are controlled by (((Certain people))).
>especially the Poles
lol fuck you. Now we are part of the great Jewish conspiracy? The Jews hate us even more than the Germans, there is no love lost there.
The majority of you storm faggot would've been gasses to death for being undesirable, so I find it funny that you all worship nazis.
Don't get me wrong, they are interesting from a historical perspective, but if you weren't completely ethnic german , you would be killed.
>"But until you do, I'm gonna keep to my awful, awful confirmation bias habits instead of having a balanced, rational, non-ideologically influenced outlook." I notice how you have fuck all to say for the most part. I know it hurts your bullshit narrative, but this is pretty pathetic, m80.
>but purposefully misrepresents a whole lot of the facts and outright lies about some things. Sure it does. Because it doesn't line up with the official Jewish narrative of history?
>I'll have to go back and watch it some time and make a list of all the bullshit it's got in it. Yeah, sure you will. And I'm sure you'll be using Jewish sources to "prove how those evil Nazi's were lying" right?
Basically your whole argument against TGSNT is "It's wrong because I say so! I'll prove it wrong in the future!"
>aaaaaand he does, GG Naziboo, go tell your gran that you're a NatSoc. Why don't you go tell your grandparents that you defended the Jews on an antisemitic imageboard?
>You will never bomb german barbarian hovels in retribution for their heinous crimes. >You will never ficki ficki a young german war widow in the bombed out ruins of her house in exchange for a chocolate bar and protection from Soviet rape gangs. >You will never see the blood refineries running at full capacity on the shores of old blighty.
Why even live my dudes?
>I notice how you have fuck all to say for the most part.
I come to post nazi stuff, you come to argue with me
I will help u to defeat the noseman and at the end of the battle i will kill mysef because i am a mestizo a disease of the humanity
>lol fuck you.
So why exactly are you running from poland, kike
HAHAHAHAHAHA. You do realize there were arabs, blacks, asians who adopted National-Socialism? And the "nazis" were allied with native americans, black people in africa, muslims, christians
And no one would be gassed, not even the Zionist kike would be gassed.
Maybe you should take a break from TV and learn something, instead of learning tales that never happened
Maybe reconsider what you're saying as jewish lies
"Do always the opposite from what the jew say" Nat Soc is really the only answer against the global jew.
Not running, two residences, my Paki friend.
>the Poles Communist scum that happened to be born in Poland* ftfy
>but if you weren't completely ethnic german , you would be killed. JIDF detected
You know nothing. Alone that we had 150k jews in the wehrmacht destroys your entire argument
You can fix it all you want, German Nazis will always hate you.
eastern germany seems to be fine, they even managed to gather enough of their own to elect their own guy. USA seems to be able to create their clan KKK communities just fine too.
seems to me like there is little to worry. maybe you should start such community after all.
>fat neckbeard romanticizes the 3rd reich oy vey, I don't think we have seen this before.
Yeah. Hitler even helped some jews. Something that is really hidden (Not quite sure if its true), is that hitler helped zionist jews become normal, and not live like parasites
>You will never feel that sweet feeling from fightining for jews and negroes >You will never got to experience your wife and sister getting sucked by them back home while in 'nam
But you will be screwed over by media, banks the government and eventually learn what it means to be an american native losing everything to fsome people that donÄt give a fuck about you
Bit funny you'd want all that since they decimated your country.
I see with a red-pilled warrior here! I must be a Jew, right? Or at least a Jew lover? Everything is Jewish, all sources that don't go in concert with your comfy version of National Socialism must be Jewish. >Basically your whole argument against TGSNT is "It's wrong because I say so! I'll prove it wrong in the future!" And your whole argument is something that doesn't sit well with you must have a Jew behind it. It's a Nazi apologist film that thinks Poland started the goddamn war in the first place by massacring Germans.
Phew, dodged that one, didn't you? Now you don't have to defend your bullshit! Nice one, chum. Gold badge for being le ebin troll!! :DDD
You talk about it as if i'm not trying to do so already, i'm saving money for land and already have a few people willing to tag along
>tfw you're just a speck in the neo-nazis' plan.
They are a dead nation anyway. Hitler killed their souls. Look only at their guilt. Germany will be reduced to former DDR
good, serve dem kikes well
True but everything did not help it was a failure because moron shart in marts trusted the jew.
why we dont help Voldemort invade Russia :(
>read books only the approved crap, which the party doesn't burn. Also foreign, non-fucked-up literature would be prohibited, because ENEMY PROPAGANDA.
>I see with a red-pilled warrior here! As opposed to an anti-White "warrior" such as yourself?
>I must be a Jew, right? Even if you're not racially a Jew or a religious Jew, you're certainly doing their work for them.
>Everything is Jewish, Everything bad for White people is certainly promoted and normalized by the Jews, yes.
>all sources that don't go in concert with your comfy version of National Socialism must be Jewish. Yes. Especially in regard to National Socialism, World War 2, Hitler, Da Shoah, etc.
>And your whole argument is something that doesn't sit well with you must have a Jew behind it. Well, that is most often the case when it comes to vilification of Hitler, the NSDAP, Germany etc.
>It's a Nazi apologist film that thinks Poland started the goddamn war in the first place by massacring Germans. Well, they did. And the documentary offers evidence to back up that claim. Which you dismiss out of hand because it doesn't line up with your Jewish version of history.
think of the smiles and happy times that could've been
>which the party doesn't burn Did you know that the books that were burned were Communist propaganda, Jewish propaganda and pornography?
People don't know that. People don't know that holocaust was a hoax. People believe what they're taught in school
It's pointless, really
You're still not getting your bikes back.
Hitler was the last dude who was so loved by almost everyone. Modern politicians are always hated by ~50%
Me too :(
United sharts of mart, theyve been controlled for atleast 100 years. I dont hate burgers, but i do hate burgers who think they were the good guys and worship israel
>People don't know that. People don't know that holocaust was a hoax. People believe what they're taught in school They also don't know that books were burned on only one occasion...
But the media wants us to believe that those evil Nazi's burned six million books (all being books with picture of puppies and kittens) along with the 6 million Jews that Hitler personally burned at the stake.
>It's pointless, really It's never pointless as long as you stay true to yourself and continue to fight.
Rolled your entire country over in 6 hours. Good times. But you are good buddy's unlike italy.... reeeeeeee such are failure africa fail and greece too.
All these brotherly wars between sweden and denmark. Why didnt we just fight the real enemy :(
Yeah, but the books they didn't like couldn't be printed, sold, bought, or borrowed! That's how you kill authors. The Burning was only a symbolic event.
>Do you even live up to the standards of nazI Germany's ideal man in the first place or are you just a loser with no stake in the world?
This is what Krautboos don't understand Hitler gassed everyone non blue eyed blond haired non Kraut literally.
Teaching students bullshit marxism anti white propaganda is a good thing because muuh freedums?
>you will never live under the dictatorial government of a security-obsessed social progressive liberal >you will never live under socialism
>Polish >Worships the Third Reich
Go dig a trench and then shoot yourself, kolego, it will be a close approximation you dumb faggot.
>Yeah, but the books they didn't like couldn't be printed, sold, bought, or borrowed! That's how you kill authors. The Burning was only a symbolic event. And?
They banned communist literature, Jewish literature and pornography.
Nothing wrong with that.
Those things don't belong in a healthy, White society like National Socialist Germany.
>Teaching students bullshit marxism anti white propaganda is a good thing because muuh freedums? People need to discard this belief that letting people who want to destroy us have a say in our society makes such somehow morally superior.
It was brief, but it was the peak of all mankind's struggle. And yes, I know that Nazis hated Czechs and we were supposed to be removed, but I don't care. It would have been a better world.
Let's start a revolution.
Yeah..... no Blue eyed blond haired is US propaganda nothing else. Not even half of germany was ever really blond
lol, nice try
Hitler considered slavs Untermensch... at least in Mein Kampf. The NSDAP had much more different opinions on various topics than people think. Just look and the number ob european SS legions, filled with volunteer fighters from northern to eastern europe. Even Hitler spoke well of them, no matter if they were spanish, finnish, lativian, hungarian... a true national socialist could have been Hitlers allie, no matter where he comes from.
>you will never hears the screams of pain and terror from your sisters and daughters as the invading armies gang rape them over and over, again and again
I was joking senpaitachi
>a polack glorifying those that tried to murder his people
C U C K
After he was the Führer his support was even bigger and if you want democracy ok it's your choice but back then it was the will of the people.
They never hated anyone. Dont believe the jewish lies
i know, because thats literally what ive been taugjtnin school, that they gassed every non blue eyed, blonde. Makes me sick
Well they certainly hated us Poles.
Waffen SS had more non Germans than Germans
WHY EVEN LIVE FAMALAM
He never concidered Slavs untermensch. But if he ever mentioned something negative about slavs, he probably talked aboit the marxists
Yes. There were shitload of SS divisions, and only like 50% of them are in the wikipedia page
My Polish mate's grandfather was figthing on a Nazi side, shooting other Poles. Kashubia and Silesia are 2 regions were many people turned to a German side. Many nazi graves in Stalingrad had Polish surnames on them.
No, they didnt.
>complain about them >hahahaha le butthurt xD le poolish worst posters
>be positive about them > C U C K S lmao untermenschen!
The poles were weak af did you really believe if we wanted to kill them (as the strongest power) all we couldn't do it? ~13% got killed at the whole time btw.
Its sad to hear that the poles killed each other. But thats what happens when some people side with the bad people. But your grandpa sides with the good people
Okay but if they didn't hate us their manner of expressing affection i.e. slavery and murder certainly made us feel like they did.
It was very common in Europe for one nation people to fight agains each other. If you think about it there were german commies as well.
War is war. But the national socialists never wanted to genocide you guys.
>You will never live in the third reich >OP is a Pole
I've got bad news for you OP, we were next on the list...
They did, they even had a plan to exterminate and take over our country called "Generalplan Ost" but they ran out of time to fully implement it.
Bunch of assholes if you ask me or any other mildly-educated Polish person.
They definitely deserved what they got. But they don't deserve what they're getting now.
Yeah. If only all europeans could be NatSoc.. "I have a dream"
This thread is filled with evidence that the "natsoc is racist" meme is dumb. It wasn't more or less racist than any other ideology/country back then.
And there was a plan called the final solution, to gas every single jew.
Do you believe that too?
>polish person idolizing the third Reich Hitler was right when he wanted to starve and genocide you all poles are literally too dumb to be allowed to live
Of course, it's well-documented and witnessed and it almost all took place in Poland.
Next you're going to tell me that Hitler never hated the Jews.
This Hitler of yours is starting to sound a lot like "nothing to do with Islam."
>Pole >you will never live in Third Reich >138 / 32 / 53 / 2 well memed my friend
He's Volksdeutscher, so he has a point. Shame that his grandparents weren't chased out of the country like all the other German scum.
For me it is retarded how good NatSoc was and what destruction it gave us. Why did Hitler even bombed London and Warsaw. He destroyed architecture he loved so much and good people he could have on his side.
This guy gets it
It's called NORTH KOREA
you know as a slav they would have killed you
>senpaitachi had no clue that was a thing
Dude we have already socialism here and nationalism is rising. Like hitler said even if he fails his spirit will rise again.
Please don't attack Poland this time.
>Believing that hitler wanted to gas every single jew
No point in arguing with you now. Since you believe in something bizarre as the holohoax
NK is commie that was his main enemy you idiot
This. Fuck Nazis and fuck the holocaust, but the Germans today don't deserve to be cucked and have their nation destroyed for what their ancestors did.
Good, but hitler never said that tho. Its a metaphor i think. But yes, NatSoc spirit will come back
I think a lot of people believe it. Not that I'm some Jew-loving cuck but I don't see the point in trying to deny the truth.
If your political ideology requires you to re-write history then maybe it's a bad ideology.
oh boy, here we go again >nazis dindu nuffin >hitler was a gud boi >i am a volskdeutsche traitor to my country
No point discussing with those plebs what happened in Poland. Their grandparents were either on completely different fronts, on the sideline or literally dindu nuffins. Though there is no excuse for a Pole to play the ignorant moron. Even the staunchest antisemite from our grandparents' generation knows what happened to the Jews. And to many Polish Catholics as well.
Stalin planed to attack Europe. And he did after hitler was gone. Hitler wanted peace with the UK but Churchill was a Jewish cock sucker so he had no other choice.
i dont think anyone is stupid enough to contest that jews and poles were slaughtered, only the method of execution and numbers are put into question no?
Yep, it's not like we're a nation well-known for loving Jews, we just know what happened and refuse to lie like a globalist media kike in order to further some ideology or some such weak faggot shit.
100mg of DMT on mugwort, gravity bong. It's that simple.
Check the link and find me a reason to do that. For me it seems like a nigg tier move.
What you described is the Stasi in the GDR, not the 3rd reich. Don't mix this shit up, anglo.
Yeah yeah that's what I mean. I had not the correct words in my mind
>You will never be so arrogant that you invade the Russians which turns out to be a huge mistake resulting in the deaths of millions of your people and the raping of your women. >You will never witness how Nazi Germany single handedly led to the cucking of Europe and the extinction of white people
Actually you're already witnessing the latter
I guess there are different factions like with any conspiracy theory. That said, it's not like there weren't peasants living around the death camps. Everybody knew that most Jews that went in didn't come out again. And those who lived everywhere else know that they took the Jews, shot many of them and then transported them away, never to be seen again. Shit, the nicest properties in our town were Jewish and remained unclaimed.
Didn't Britain bomb Germany first, or is that just Cred Forums talking shit again?
concept of chivalry is totally foreign to nazis and anglos, look up the air battles in the first weeks of war, how polish pilots behaved and how nazis did
>only the approved crap, which the party doesn't burn. This was basically true for the "other side" too back then. The allies destroying all German Nazi books in the biggest book burning ever wasn't just for fun.
And I don't see whats wrong with destroying books if they are kike propaganda and promoting degeneracy.
too fucking real poland
>no physical copy of the "plan" was every found huh jimbo
We got bombed and our food/aid line got cutted. Did you read about typhus? Around 100k died after this like the red cross says. And sure we had many many inhumane experiments but many of them got our society decades forwards in the future.
>slavs >being nazis >No matter what you do, you'll never be this big of a cuck >feels pretty good
>If your political ideology requires you to re-write history then maybe it's a bad ideology. When the official narrative was woven for the explicit purpose of discrediting said ideology then addressing the false narrative is the first step to introducing the ideology.
>And sure we had many many inhumane experiments but many of them got our society decades forwards in the future. thats interesting, source?
Thanks slav bro. One day, the people of europe will unite and fight against the white genocide. Until then, make sure you don't get robbed by nogs or rapefugees!
LENSE LEAD And for 1 german 7 Russians got killed so what
jest duze prawdopodobienstwo, ze moj dziad ze strony ojca był w wojsku Niemieckim. Skąd masz informacje o tym co napisałes w tym temacie; czy mozesz sie podzielic linkami z ktorych się uczyłes?
kek Russia literally planned to attack germany, so germany only started it 2 weeks in advance Dunno why everyone thinks it was a mistake, if anything, it was a benefit to catch them off guard
Given that being a nationalist and being a socialist = nazi = being a nazi and being anti third reich type of nazi is still possible (a nazi according to the jewed translation of the word)
Mengele's dwarf experiments obviously made Peter Dinklage's career possible.
On May 11. 1940, Churchill directly phoned bomber command, bypassing parliament and other instances, sending huge amounts of bombers to germany, bombing worker homes, killing thousands. These air raids continue and in september 1940, Hitler gave a speech that if Britain does not stop, the luftwaffe will come to britain (speech to be found on youtube). At that time, Berlin alone already received 7 bombing raids. The cowardly anglo had to fly at night because during daylight, anti air weapons would have fucked them up. They would have attacked sooner but the nights weren't long enough yet to leave and return to britain during night. When britain didn't stop, Germany send bombers to britain.
How warfare was to be done was "described" in the geneva war laws, i.e. you can bomb cities when your army was at their doors. This was true for basically every major german attacks on foreign cities, except britain for obvious reasons. The illegal terror bombing started by the brits was answered by another illegal terror bombing (on a far smaller scale). But this was justified under the war laws because you were allowed to use illegal methods to stop another aggressor who used illegal methods in order to stop him using said illegal methods.
Many british historians (like AJP Talyor) saw german retaliation as justified, and it was (but rather meaningless at that point).
if your grandpa is from silesia there is big chances he was, germans recruited everyone speaking german, even barely, indescrimanetly at least thats what we were taught in history classes
MIeszkał w Szczecinku a potem pojechał do Opola. Nie mówie tutaj o polaku ktory mowil po niemiecku, lecz o niemcu ktory mowił po polsku. Nazwisko Ruth/Rut
>asking a naziboo for a source kek
Start a holocaust denial thread so i can can completely destroy you guys again. (I can't create them because those threads always get b&)
It's their protestant religion. It takes away the ability to feel empathy. Seyss Inquart himself said it, and he scored +140 in Nurmeberg IQ test iirc
Just Google this I have no source saved for this right now.
>Russia literally planned to attack germany, source?
You... you I like you
if germans have archives like poland you would need to go to germany and look up the rosters, ask a german, poles didnt keep check on german soldiers
>Nazwisko Ruth/Rut Ajwaj, a moze jednak zyd?
Operation Thunder. Look it up sometime. Never happened as Russia got attacked before they could start it.
>t. post war propaganda education
Russia had hegemony over need German resources. They could destroy the german war effort any time they pleased, but they gave them shit to kill France and the anglo. Germany knew this... any moment the soviets could have stopped giving them oil, wood, iron, titanium etc etc. Then Stalin made an error: He planned to invade Bulgaria for the oil field and then Bulgaria heard of this they went "yeah move in we'll retreat" because they wouldn't have a chance. But what did stalin do? Advance into the country stopping 150km short of the oil fields (which also gave oil to the germans) to get within quick bomber range. At that point, the soviets could stop or destroy all the supply lines giving germany the possibility to wage war... and that at a time when the biggest military in the world was moved to assault Germany/Europe. At that point, Hitler immediately went away from britain and put everything to work to crush the coming doom from the east, making sure to keep the supplys coming. And they actually succeeded. They destroyed the biggest military, went to the gates of moscow and kept the resources coming. The push back to germany was only possible due to lend lease (and german traitors).
With barbarossa, all of Europe would be communist right now because everything in Europe was a joke compared to the soviet military might.
are you african or turk? too uncucked to be german
Jednak nie, szukałem kiedys korzeni zydowskich, szczegolnie ze strony matki (...), ale niestety nic nie znalazłem.
Nie wiem dlaczego ale zawsze brałem to pod uwage, masz cos wiecej na ten temat?
Ivan pls I am former prussian, and even as a citizen living in berlin, i realize what kind of shithole merkel has created
You should read "the chief culprit" by sovorov, quick 250 pages. Can be found for free online. You'd be amazed on how war the soviet plans for war was. They even had their hands in Hitler gaining power in 1932/33. (stalin ordering the commies to go into coalition with the NSDAP instead of the social democrats... otherwise stalin wouldn't get his war).
>tfw you will never kill slavs and kikes and settle former untermensch territory
Feels bad man
it's amazing how stupid these kids are. i thought it was common knowledge that the soviets were going to attack germany. this is what i was taught in school
>Operation Thunder so you have no source?
Can you show me a source that says that USSR was going to invade germany?
Also explain why USSR did not invade when Germany was fighting France
Nie zabardzo. Ruth wywodzi sie z jezyka hebrajskiego, ale co ja widze to jest duzo osob z tym nazwiskiem bez pochodzenia zydowskiego.
>The push back to germany was only possible due to lend lease Lend lease only arrived to the front after the battle of stalingrad
>and german traitors Like?
are you lying right now? there is no way you were taught that in school, post your history book from school.
Are you too lazy to check the other replies? Are you too stupid to know , that USSR was at that point in time not even sure if they want to attack germany? They were not even fully mobilized, jeez Also, looking back at a war, and judging mistakes and such, is far easier, than when you are currently in the war.
it was almost 20 years ago so that's not going to happen. i'm not even sure it was from a text book
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Suvorov > is a Russian writer, an amateur historian regularly accused of historical revisionism and a former Soviet military intelligence officer who defected to the United Kingdom. So he is a amateur historian and a USSR defector at the same time?
Holy fuck, one can't be more credible then this.
Can you actually present a source for your claims? Did you actually read the book? presenting a whole book is not a source.
you have no source m8, thats the truth no more questions
>you will never live in an alternative reality where Poland agreed to team up with Germany against soviets
Why would Stalin build up such an army and move it to the broder? To make them look cool? Imagine you are a Stalin, you gain all the power you have, you build army with new toys, you hate people, what you do? Nothing? Sure.
Can you show me a source that Stalin was preparing to invade germany in summer 1941?
I've heard that as a theory but if the Russians were just about to attack as well the Germans really seem to have caught them completely unprepared. So, not very likely. Supposedly Stalin was completely in denial that the Germans would actually attack the USSR that it took him almost a day to react.
shut the fuck up you stupid subhuman slavnigger
A więc co dokładnie sugerujes?
>Why would Stalin build up such an army and move it to the broder? To make them look cool? Germany was a rogue state.
1/6 of modern poland was part of the 3rd reich before the war.
The USSR was a peasant army they were way behind the other powers. Tanks and all the other thing we're oook but not good enough The big lens lead from the USA changed everything. They needed still many years to get on a good level but the US dropped them instantly on ready for the war.
Poland was occupied by Germany for more than 123 years, so when after only 21 years of independence Germans wanted to move East again people were not happy. Can't blame them for not wanting to team up recent abuser.
>Lend lease only arrived to the front after the battle of stalingrad Even if this might be true, Stalin is still quoted in saying they would lose the war without US support. The biggest problem they had was.................. food. They were starving, next came support vehicles (trucks and trains to get troops, ammo, tanks, food etc to the front, very important for a huge country). They lost all that when the germans attacked... the soviets lost like 80% of their military in the first few month. Russian officers thanking the US for lend lease and them claiming they would lose otherwise can also be found in their diaries.
>Like? Too many to remember the names. The last chapter of "Hitlers revolution" points out in detail how they sabotages the eastern front by falsifiying/destroying reports, stopping/changing supplies and giving all german attack plan to the Russian and Anglos via switzerland. Sometimes even russian defectors were captured by the wehrmacht and they told the wehrmacht their attack plans.... which the wehrmacht hasn't even received yet.
In addition, the normandy invasion was known 2 days prior and the resitance withheld all information. They also diverted troops, sending them from France to russia and faking maps, saying "there are swamps" so that troops can't move to this place (which was a lie, no swamps there). And some other shit making sure the normandy invasion happens.
And finally, fucked up diplomacy. Spanish foreign minister said after the war that if he would have been told Hitlers true intentions/views about the war, and not the lie he received from the resistance, then Spain would have joined the war.
>get's caught lying >lashs out based on flag memes
Nic, zartowalem. Nie wydaje mi sie ze duzo Polskich Zydow sluzylo w wermachcie. Mozliwe ze dziadek twoj byl Volksdeutscher i wtedy by nie bylo nic dziwnego ze walczyl dla Niemcow.
Piłsudski died too early
Liberal socialism and national socialism are not at all alike.
Myslalem ze nienawidzicie Pilsudskiego jako zydofila?
Fourth Reich soon
>The USSR was a peasant army they were way behind the other powers. No. Barbarossa was a disaster for Soviets mainly because the Red army in the west was under the control of political comissars. Once Stalin removed them and put renowed, educated generals from the far east (around the time of the battle of Moscow), the germans got schooled
Russians embarassed Japan in Khalkin Ghol and exposed Japan as what he actually was: a paper tiger
Says the person who's country is now so cucked that it's illegal to sing the first verse of your own national anthem.
The traitors were prussian military aristocrats, who got their position through heritage. When hitler came to power, he changed that system to "positions given to the most competent". Meaning total nobody peasents who were capable could get into relevant military positions. The aristocrats didn't like this very much, getting their lollis taken away. Thus they went behind hitlers back and fucked up the war. Them falsifying reports and delaying/stopping supplies and falsifying reports on the eastern front led to more then 500k german soldiers killed. Especially when it comes to stalingrad.
There were around 90 high ranking traitors, 85% were prussian military aristocrats. They didn't realize that the allied goal was to destroy germany and not remove hitler (stated by the traitor weizäcker who became an important german polititian after the war). The allies even refused information from the resistance because they didn't trust people betraying their country and they reasoned that a military dictator ship, which they would have after removing hitler, would be even worse for the allies, so they didn't trust them.
Without these traitors, the german war effort would have looked much much different.
Second Reich was better.
What is good money for a Polack? Enough zloty to guarantee yourself a loaf of daily bread and a handle of bathtub vodka for when your mother visits?
I don't speak slav
What is a zydofila?
>Stalin is still quoted in saying they would lose the war without US support. source? Politicians say alot of shit.
>next came support vehicles (trucks and trains So USSR was shitting out tens of thousands of tanks every year but somehow it was impossible for USSR to make their own trucks and locomotives?
>the soviets lost like 80% of their military in the first few month. 80% of it's western front troops. They still had their elite and best equiped units in the far east.
>>Like? Any source for your claims?
A, jednak kasztan z krwi i kosci.
Do you think the masses will ever wake up?
Why is it so hard for people to put two and two together a figure out that the bad guys won and manipulated the history books? It's not even like we're taught that's never happened before, just that it didn't happen THIS time. Why are people so set on believing the most mainstream, popular narratives and not even remotely questioning something outside that norm?
I think we need to stop moping around about what could have been, but at the same time we need to realize where they were right and do it again. It only needs to work one time and we can turn it all around.
>Holy fuck, one can't be more credible then this.
The arguments he gives are very sound, detailed descriptions of supply lines, what supplying, what soviet troops were station at which position, who gave the orders/were the leaders of said devisions. Etc.
>Did you actually read the book? Duh
>Can you actually present a source for your claims? You from said book? He talks about the resources in detail in chapter 23 (p146-153), talks about the "romanian oil problem" in chapter 24 (p154-160) and then soviet preparations for offensive warfare in chapter 25, 26 and 28 (p160-168 and p171-178).
English lesson Friedrich it's: Always do the opposite of what the jew says.
The Russians did most of that to the Germans that weren't killed by indiscriminate carpet bombing of their neighborhoods.
>TFW the people you relate to most are 400 pound hacker autists that have their mom make them hot pockets all day
Everything was mostly a peasant area they were many years behind... It was like Mao where the cities where ok but 80% of the other parts were absolut peasant area.
German conservative military conspiracy only started after Stalingrad, and took decisive action in 1944. By this time the war was already decided
>Them falsifying reports and delaying/stopping supplies and falsifying reports on the eastern front led to more then 500k german soldiers killed.
> The allies even refused information from the resistance because they didn't trust people betraying their country and they reasoned that a military dictator ship, which they would have after removing hitler, would be even worse for the allies, so they didn't trust them.
Because the military conspiracy was politically unfeasible. Only senile members actually believed that they could actually be sucessfull. Even Trescow, a leader of the conspiracy, admitted himself, saying something like: "Killing Hitler will only be a moral act".
>was shitting out tens of thousands of tanks every year but somehow it was impossible for USSR to make their own trucks and locomotives? It was possible, but then they would not have shat out these tanks. The USSR got over 400k trucks from the US etc...
>Any source for your claims? Yeah I won't bother my time for your circle jerk sorry. I gave the book and chapter already. Simple google search for the book (for free) and reading the chapter (around 40 pages) should do the trick. Otherwise fuck off to /his/ with your autism and stop wasting other peoples time.
>inb4 more weak ass bait to discredit what I wrote, waste my time further and then contribute literally nothing to the discussion other the more "soure?" spamming.
>are 400 pound hacker autists that have their mom make them hot pockets all day not necessarily
>German conservative military conspiracy only started after Stalingrad, and took decisive action in 1944. Complete bullshit. Many of the traitors were already found, sentences and executed by 1942. Especially since many german attack plans were already known to the soviets since 1941.
>source? Fuck off faggot. You are not presenting any sources while shitting out text. You gave no one a reason to think you are credible. I gave you the book and chapter and won't bother further with your weak time wasting tactics. At least try to live up to your own standards.
>Rolled your entire country over in 6 hours. Good times >implying we weren´t inching for National Socialism in Denmark
so you were cucks?
dem cheekbones though
Germans are Danes, you can't get cucked by your own.
You're a fucking idiot
I honestly thought these were insects in the thumbnail.
>meming this hard You mad?
That's not the point but you can just try to drive with a tank from south to north in 6 hours..that's really hard. That's really hard :^D .
>Complete bullshit. Many of the traitors were already found, sentences and executed by 1942. Especially since many german attack plans were already known to the soviets since 1941. What are you talking about? I am talking about the famous july 20 plot.
>You are not presenting any sources I can source anything i wrote.
>I gave you the book and chapter of a amateur historian with a clear bias against USSR
Does it surprise you to see an Altmer in the thalmor?
>of a amateur historian with a clear bias against USSR Wrong. The book/chapter I mentioned regarding the traitor stuff was a different book from a different author than srvorov. You aren't even reading what I'm writing.
>I can source anything i wrote. Good for you. Yet you don't give sources... but don't bother, I don't really care actually.
The former army chief of staff, Haider, testified in 1955, “Almost all German attacks, immediately after being planned by the OKW, became known to the enemy before they even landed on my desk." Meiser, Hans, Verratene Verräter, p. 198
On August 30, 1939, two days before Germany invaded Poland, Kleist-Schmenzin delivered the detailed operational orders to the British embassy in Berlin with instructions to “pass this on to Warsaw." Chamberlain duly forwarded the document to Colonel Beck. Same source, same page
One month later, Oster gave Sas the target date of the German surprise offensive in the West. The Dutch disbelieved the information. Similarly instructed, Belgian Ambassador Adrien Nieuwenhuys opined skeptically, “No German would do something like that!" Believing to have tipped the Allies off in time, Oster calculated that the abortive offensive would cost the German army 40,000 dead. Sudholt, Gert, So war der Zweite Weltkrieg 1940, p. 146
Many more things like these happened starting 1939
Monitoring stations forwarded this vast quantity of intelligence to the Abwehr for assessment. Canaris, Oster and fellow conspirators relayed almost none of the findings to Hitler. They instead stored the cache of documents in Angerburg, East Prussia, never evaluated. (since starting barbarossa) Georg, Friedrich, Verrat an der Ostfront pp. 108-112
Regarding Soviet plans for counter: Since then we've identified three such plants.... The chief of the general staff scribbles a question mark here, sending the report back for re-evaluation without informing the Führer." Pemler, Georg, Der Flug zum Don, p. 84
Just to show some small exceprts. Resistance members fucking up the german war effort was not just 1944 and onwards, they made their moves since the beginning of the war. Many many more names etc. are found in the book, all sourced of course.
are you even reading your posts yourself? you didnt post different book than svorov only chapters without the name of the book
>you didnt post different book than svorov I literally wrote "Hitlers revolution" last chapter you spastic. Ok i didn't give the author (tedor) but google still gives me the correct result.
ok my bad, i didnt check that far up still the soviet matter still stands what are you implying
I don't like propaganda, gungrabbing, censorship, or authoritarian governments. The Third Reich was pretty fucking stylish but I oppose many of the policies which it instated. I see politicians and certain groups of activists advocating for similar policies (without the cool uniforms too, the bastards) and I oppose them whenever I can. Authoritarians fuck off reee.
To wszystko przez tego pieprzonego Jozefa Becka user...
>I don't like propaganda, You are basically just living in propaganda. It isn't that much different. The reason the democracies went to war were basically propaganda (why the people went into war, not what the governments really wanted)
>gungrabbing Liberal gun laws in the 3rd reich. Basically any german could own a gun. Of course, the laws were not as liberal as in the US.
>censorship Considering how much damage the media did before/during WW1 and then allied media during WW2... cruel as fuck. They let the people hate each other and kill themselves while they sit on the sidelines and laugh. I would consider the right amount of cencorship a blessing.
>authoritarian governments. Is there a very big difference compared to today? You get asked once every 4 years to do something, yet they can still draft you, send you to war, impose a lot of shit... over here they still charge/imprison you for saying the wrong things etc... I actually don't really see a lot of difference.
bullshit, god knows what would happen and if german demands would ever end or if we would end like czechoslovakia or austria what ifs are completely useless point is that germans were barbaric, whether blinded by ubermensh propaganda or not, the results count, murderers and scum.
zyd = jew ofila = phile (like pedophile)
"Jewophile" , sympathizer for Jews is what it means user.
What happened to Austria?
got anshlussed and lost its independence or am i wrong
>an American making fun of a someone with history and culture.
Y-yes of course, those evil nazis under the rule of the ethinc german Adolf Hitler annexed us against our will!
True user, maybe it would have all ended up like Wolfenstein fiction. Either way Soviet Union would attack someone to their west anyway.
None of us can truly distinguish how barbaric anyone was back then because we were never there.
We do know is that the world would be a very different place if ww2 never started where it did.
except my grandparents were there, and they didnt manage to die before me talking with them about the war against the will or not, my point was the loss of independence, i would personally hate to be unified with germany even if 99% voted for that.
And mine did too, yet some were conscripted into Wehrmacht because of where they lived and fought for Germany.
Opinions differ by which side was occupied by whom for hundreds of years.
>wageslaving your life away, filling your life with pointless shit like new car or new TV, watching as they take your money, your country, your freedom
Fuck this shit, nobody will take my freedom from me this way. I'm going to fap, watch porn, play video games etc. for my whole damn life. They even banned porn sites here, do you think I stopped watching porn? No fucking way. And btw the last thing I need is some Reich to die for, no thx
so you are polish-german mix? what did he tell you?
>eat >sleep >fap >play >repeat: "I am free"
You are creating a story that did of happen. Reich was nothing like that. You would hate it more. Eveytime you saw Adolf with his pretentious talking style or Goebbels propaganda for fools you would be depressed at how stupid everyone is. When the vollksturm was proposed you would fear for your family and curse the Australian peasant. That is if you aren't dead or your family isn't dead yet :)
Literally half of the SS was dark haired/eyed, including Hitler himself.
>My great grandfather was a german soldier, so I have more in common with Third Reich than you, pal Some german soldier during WW2 had fun with your grammy, right? It doesn't make you a german descent. Also did you gramma cried and resisted?
not for lack of trying...
Then what is freedom in your opinion, and why do I need it?
> Say 'Holocaust didn't happen' > jail for 5 years
> heavy rape > jail for 5 years
FUCK MY COUNTRYMEN AND FUCK EVRY PIECE OF HUMAN SHIT WHO ACCEPTS JEWIDH GLOBALISM. JUST MUST HANG. NIGGERS MUST HANG. PURIFY THE WORLD
my guess is that he is captivated by the delusions of grandeur and is not aware that he is basically living the dream his grandparents fought for minus some niggers ofc
Must be so
That is free though... Americans take it for granted because they don't know what it's like to live in a country where the simple shit like the things you posted are hard to come by.
>Natsoc was an ideology of peace
It's a well known fact that Der Führer was very flatulent, he wanted to gas everybody