Is France the Next Big Thing?

Jacob Sanchez
Jacob Sanchez

First, the United States was the epicenter and originator of popular animation and cartoons. Then, into the later 20th-century, Japan overtook America as the new great animation station.

Is France going to be the next big animation wonder? Will it be able to produce the next big wave of animation, comics, and cartoon storytelling within the next severa generations?

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Michael Powell
Michael Powell

They gotta do something about that Muslim immigration thing first. And this is coming from a liberal.

Hint: Rebuild the Middle East.

Wyatt Bailey
Wyatt Bailey

Japan overtook America as the new great animation station.

Just because you go to anime cons doesn't mean the country cares about anime as much as it cares about Disney.

Michael Sanders
Michael Sanders

Only if it keeps producings sexualy charged characters.

Austin Bailey
Austin Bailey

.

Grayson Price
Grayson Price

France had animation and film before the US did. Google Emile Cohl.

Isaac Reed
Isaac Reed

Immigration is an entrepreneurial, cultural, and economic boon to a given country. I know a lot of recent immigration and refugee problems have created some social unrest, but people coming to other countries of their own valuation is somewhat of a risk in of itself, and the fresh ideas and drive that they possess in a new society will allow them to thrive and produce new things that wouldn't have otherwise been produced.

The same applies to the animation and creative industry. Immigrants penetrating the art sector will contribute new IPs and concepts in an otherwise stale market that cannot think outside the box. (i.e. Superman, the greatest American hero and progenitor of all western superhero comics, was invented by Canadian immigrants to the United States)

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Easton Torres
Easton Torres

But it never hit the big time on the level of Disney and other big name studios. France might have developed the technology first, but it never dominated the market and brought fresh new concepts to entertainment in the same way the United States or Japan did. How, however, that might be changing.

Aaron Moore
Aaron Moore

I doubt it and frankly I kinda hope not. We're fine making things for their own purpose instead of trying to conquer the world through animation. And you probably don't want us to try either, remember Arthur and the Minimoys or however they translated it.

Brayden Allen
Brayden Allen

When will we see the rise of German animation?

Nicholas Flores
Nicholas Flores

The King and the Mockingbird is credited as a big influence on Miyazaki and Takahata, who in turn heavily influenced theatrical animation in Japan.

Alexander Hernandez
Alexander Hernandez

After France.

Liam Morris
Liam Morris

That doesn't count tho

Elijah Brown
Elijah Brown

I'm not sure what you mean by "hit the big time" in this context. I think that creating/pioneering film and animation is substantial enough for any credit. The US stuff by Disney is good, but you have to remember that came about 30 years later. And with anime another 30+ years after that. So, you can see it is not such a simple thing to compare them all together. I think what you are really referring to is longevity.

Hunter Foster
Hunter Foster

Huh? Why the fuck wouldn't it?

John Cook
John Cook

What do you mean?

Henry Morgan
Henry Morgan

Then, into the later 20th-century, Japan overtook America as the new great animation station.

ITT: Things that never happened

Daniel Wood
Daniel Wood

French animation
survivining Macron "reforms" on anything

Justin Bailey
Justin Bailey

Are you paid well by Soros at least? Just asking.

Nathaniel Ortiz
Nathaniel Ortiz

Rebuild the Middle East.
Arabs countrys are way more rich and able to do it than the West.
don't hate Europe when your Emirates prefer to fund a new golf trak in the desert.

Hunter Wilson
Hunter Wilson

Macron follows the money and knows that france leades the world in art. He's ok with it. He's not right wing like the world tends to portray

Josiah Brown
Josiah Brown

I hope so.

Evan Allen
Evan Allen

In that video he addresses Japan's case, which I disagree with him on, as Japan's a special case of a country. Despite its social and economic problems, I don't think they'll need large-scale immigration. But all of his points still remain for literally every other country on the planet. He speaks true.

Joseph Thompson
Joseph Thompson

What is this?

Carson Moore
Carson Moore

Immigration is a cancer for humanity, that destroys the different civilizations in the name of global economical dictatorship.

Kevin King
Kevin King

(You)

James Brooks
James Brooks

The only reform he's made that concerns media is changing who chooses the leaders of public media from the CSA (censors) to unions of public media workers. This is somewhere between irrelevant and good.

Cooper Walker
Cooper Walker

Could you faggots abstain for one fucking thread.

Landon Barnes
Landon Barnes

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Macron is like a politically correct Trump, economics wise

Henry Cooper
Henry Cooper

He's a centrist

Camden Fisher
Camden Fisher

Why? Your boss is offended?

Aiden Cooper
Aiden Cooper

Because we're trying to talk about cartoons here, not dummy's first hot take on global politics. There's a board for that.

Andrew Lopez
Andrew Lopez

France should be able to produce the cartoons that America will never do.

Jackson Davis
Jackson Davis

Some shit adaptation of a mediocre but fun french comics
And apparently as much Cred Forumspedo bait as that shit Sisters comics

Colton Jackson
Colton Jackson

I see people praising French cartoons a lot, but as far as good recent TV animation I'm only familiar with Lastman
Have they produced anything else worthwhile?

Ian Moore
Ian Moore

nah, french always had a couple of great cartoons (especially when they work with japanese), but the large majority is childish crap even worse than Ladybug

Logan Watson
Logan Watson

go watch Dofus and Wakfu
Asterix - The Mansions of the gods was fun too but I couldnt find a solid sub for it, sadly.

Jonathan Gutierrez
Jonathan Gutierrez

no
france also heavily subsidizes their arts & film industry in order to out compete hollywood and they still get drowned out.
as much of a hit as wakfu was on image boards doesn't mean its a success with a general international audience, they had to have a kickstarter in order to even produce a dub and it was terrible.

Ryan Clark
Ryan Clark

Is France going to be the next big animation wonder?
Nope.
We just don't have the entertainment infrastructure for it.
Hell it's already really hard for our national channels to produce live-action TV shows that aren't cheap SOL or very lowkey crime stories, so bigger animation projects are completely out of the question, asidre from a handful of movies really.

Mason Campbell
Mason Campbell

Have they produced anything else worthwhile?
Not really in TV format. Far too expensive, none of the networks can really afford it outside of kid shows that are easier to sell and broadcast.

Jonathan Hughes
Jonathan Hughes

I'm French but I don't own a TV so only shows I'm familiar with are ironically through Cred Forums, and they're not really good. As a general rule though We're better at theatrical than TV.

Mansion of Gods was theatrical.

Benjamin Bell
Benjamin Bell

tfw Besson is willing but has absolutely horrendous taste in animation

Adrian Brooks
Adrian Brooks

in TV animation?
In the 80s oldies category, Ulysses 31 and the Mysterious Cities of Gold are great cartoons (but it's franco-japanese)
More "recently" (already 11 years ago), Oban Star Racers was uite good

Lucas Williams
Lucas Williams

France seems to have more creative freedom than the USA (just an observation). Euro animation also seems to have anime influences without seeming copy-cat. I'm not well informed on this, but France does look like it has a lot of potential animation wise.

What about Italy? Whats Italy's potential?

Ryan Peterson
Ryan Peterson

t. 'the unconquered' descendants of ye olde Kent and Essex, who took invader dick like champs

You do you, you six toed pony fuckers.

Ayden Gutierrez
Ayden Gutierrez

If we're allowed to go that far back then there's a decent number.
From the 70s through the 2000s or so you've got the Once Upon a Time... series.
Animal of Farthing Woods was an EU production but used mostly British and French talent.
The 90s Tintin adaptation was good, as have been all the Lucky Luke ones (1984, 1991, 2001).
Aside from New Lucky Luke late 1990s and early 2000s Xilam produced solid things like Space Goofs or Oggy and the Cockroaches.
The Lascars is pretty good.
I feel bad for forgetting the Shadocks.
Even Galactik Football, despite being mediocre, is probably a better sports cartoon than anything the US has produced.

And yeah actually recently there's Les Grandes Grandes Vacances which Cred Forums seems for once to love for other reasons than waifus.

Aaron Roberts
Aaron Roberts

we have more creative freedom than USa because we aren't restricted by puritan laws and an extreme mindset of " doing animation solely for money"
in France, i believe there is a real research of experimentation and research about animation

i don't know about Italy, what did they produced recently ?

Landon Clark
Landon Clark

Italy has made pic related, they're allowed to rest on their laurels now.
Are you trying to summon WITCHfag?

Brody Carter
Brody Carter

in France, i believe there is a real research of experimentation and research about animation
Sort of but that's mostly art students over at Gobelins these days, not in mainstream TV animation, not anymore.

Charles Campbell
Charles Campbell

Implying the Germanics can make anything that isn't terrifying.

Anthony Ward
Anthony Ward

Lets ruin the thread by summon him
W.I.T.C.H and Winx are 2 that come to mind

Hudson James
Hudson James

t.bh what you see on TV is what makes mainly money (except for oddballs like LastMan) you need to be in a partilcularly restricted kabal of indie animator

Parker Williams
Parker Williams

What France needs is it's own version of the Manga industry, and then the popular french comics then get adapted by studios into animation.

Nolan Sullivan
Nolan Sullivan

It's like you have no idea how France works.
Our local comic book industry is ridiculously active and has been overproducing for a while now.
Problem is again that there isn't really anyone who can pay for TV adaptations of succesful comic books because animation is that expensive. Meaning that there are some adaptations but only of the really most popular stuff which is usually childrens gag or SOL series.

Camden Powell
Camden Powell

What France needs is it's own version of the Manga industry
That has existed for longer than Marvel or DC have existed. Pic related is one of the French equivalents to Shonen Jump, and has been published consistently since 1938.
then the popular french comics then get adapted by studios into animation.
That has also been a thing for decades.

Evan Evans
Evan Evans

French
Well Belgian really, but same difference when it comes to this.

Caleb Moore
Caleb Moore

Tintin Magazine is dead
Pilote is dead
A Suivre is dead
Métal Hurlant is dead
even fucking Pif Gadget is dead
why did things have to go so wrong?

Angel Wright
Angel Wright

Oversaturation maybe? General downswing of the market (especially faced with manga starting in the 80s)? I dunno but it's a good question.
There's still L'Echo des Savanes at least.

Alexander Roberts
Alexander Roberts

Oh and Pif is still a thing, albeit only published every 3 months.

Kayden Rivera
Kayden Rivera

Let me rephrase that. What France needs is it's own version of the Manga industry, in that it needs to be popular with nerdy Americans with NEET bux.

Jose Mitchell
Jose Mitchell

Fluide Glacial is still arround too right?
I dunno but it's a good question.
That was kind of a rethoric question, we know what killed the prepublication magazine and it was :
TV
When we got rid of the 2 national channel standard and got first 4 then 5 then 6 and cable in less than 15 years, there was a sudden afflux of entertainment that was pretty much all for the same price that you were already paying anyway (except for cable obviously) and that was what took comic books out of their spot as the first form of entertainment for the family
split in readership
I don't think it can be overstated how much of a divide Pilote and its editorial policies created in the late 60s and how that caused the massive split in the 70s between the aging family friendly formula that had been the norm for so long and more leftfield, artsy, experimental stuff. So in the end the "all ages" formula of Spirou and Tintin couldn't survive and the traditionnal adventure series were outdated in a sense now that there could be similar things focusing on one audience precisely.
And it's interesting to see that to this day editors are still reaching for that unattainable title that will be good for everyone.

Ryder Walker
Ryder Walker

I really would rather not.
But you've got the whole Franga branch with things like Wakfu and the Ankama catalog in general (Freaks Squeele) that are fairly popular with Cred Forums and Americans in general, they're just very poorly distributed in the US for some reason that eludes me.

Isaiah Hughes
Isaiah Hughes

Yeah but /pol/'s so worthless even /mlp/ is a better board, at least it works as a containment board.

Henry Diaz
Henry Diaz

Fluide Glacial is still arround too right?
Right, for some reason I always fuse it with L'Echo in my head.

The TV part was kind of implied by the general downswing of the comic market, but I didn't know about the splitting readership part. You're way more knowledgeable on that topic than I am, thanks for the info.

Ryder Harris
Ryder Harris

dude, you think media workers don't follow all his reform on the working time and shit? get real. After transport their next to lose all their state money and special status.

Luis Robinson
Luis Robinson

But they have. Its called euro-manga. But it wasnt successfull.

Brandon Parker
Brandon Parker

Possibly, we'll see when that happens, as is it's purely speculation. There have already been 2 strikes from the public media since his election and he's barely grazed them at all, they probably won't go out too easy.

Honestly I wouldn't oppose them losing their full summer vacations, there's no real reason TV production should grind to a halt in summer.

Zachary Gutierrez
Zachary Gutierrez

Euro collaboration TV cartoons ought to be a thing again.
Il etait une fois.. stuff was awesome.

Parker Gomez
Parker Gomez

Intermarriage is a cancer for humanity, that destroy the different lineages in the name of global familial dictatorship.

Thomas Gray
Thomas Gray

If you want to see how much of a difference there was, try to find the compiled semesters of some magazines. They all used to do it (and Spirou still does it).
Compare Pilote to Spirou or Tintin at a similar period. The difference in tone, styles, types of content is insane. Like, in the same issue of a magazine you can have two pages of Lucky Luke, Gotlib being a shithead, a single-page quickie of Brétécher, four pages of Druillet, Achille Talon and a short-novel.
And really if you can find some of the Pilote semesters, do get them. The majority of what was in it was not only really good but has also never been published ever since, especially as it had so many one-shots and quickies, some of which by people who are completely forgotten now.

Landon Perez
Landon Perez

Hint: Rebuild the Middle East.
Hint: America should just stop destroying it in the first place.

Lincoln Bell
Lincoln Bell

France and Ireland are both great. They aren't controlled by big studios afraid to take risks (America) or a shitty fan "subculture" pressuring them into making formulaic schlock (Japan).

Gavin Ramirez
Gavin Ramirez

I only ever read Spirou as a kid (well in the 90s there wasn't much choice left) but even there there was some tonal whiplash between something like Cédric and JKJ Bloche or Soda, although nothing to the level you're describing.

And really if you can find some of the Pilote semesters, do get them
I'm shit out of money right now but I'll think about it if I see some.

Chase Young
Chase Young

They are getting there.

Stuff like Les Nombrils (French >Canadian), the whole lanfeust/troy series and Sky Dolls is kinda like France own's manga niche.

Kayden Baker
Kayden Baker

Fuck your sister
Allow millions of Arabs and Africans into Europe
Pick one

Ryan Hughes
Ryan Hughes

Fuck off.

Grayson King
Grayson King

One family interbreeds with itself for centuries.
Versus populations of millions.

Also plenty of the newcomers are very inbred, so you're not actually doing the population any favours genetically by introducing them.

Eli Reyes
Eli Reyes

They had to adapt ultimately, this started in the mid 70s. In the case of Spirou they ended up publishing stuff like Archie Cash (the story of a Charles Bronson lookalike enforcing law and order in South America. It was pretty violent for Spirou at the time) or the whole debacle with Les Innomables later in the 80s (a series about drug smuggling and prostitution in Hong Kong and later on about the Korean War, illustrated like Astérix. The backlash from parents was pretty bad). The damage had already been done .
90s Spirou was still somewhat better than the Disney translation dumping though. As you said it had JKJ Bloche which is pretty neat

Bentley Mitchell
Bentley Mitchell

user lists legit points
Counter with buzzwords and conspiracy theories you learned from /pol/

Just leave, kid.

James Evans
James Evans

Why should issues of culture and heritage be argued on the basis of economic wellbeing for a few people at the top? How does Pierre, Hans, or Dave, benefit from mass immigration?

Austin Campbell
Austin Campbell

Interesting.
Not being a regular enough reader, I tended to skip things that relied on continuity, since I didn't actually read week to week. So things like JKJ Bloche or even Bluecoats were mostly lost on me as a kid because I spent most of my allowance buying capeshit religiously. I did get into Bluecoats not long later via albums (my main BD input throughout childhood) at least.

Grayson Clark
Grayson Clark

It would be nice if we could incorporate some of the ways we do animation and put it into a single show

Jacob Turner
Jacob Turner

Actually no, he doesn't speak the truth. What he said is over simplified drivel. There is a lot more to the case of this particular migration than "If a bunch of red blobs mix in with blue blobs we get purple!"

He's a fucking moron and so are you if you think this is that simple.

Aiden Hall
Aiden Hall

it's that comic page a Rebecca sugar work?

Samuel Hughes
Samuel Hughes

Bluecoats is still going on after 46 years and 61 albums, Cauvin and Lambil are still at the helm
Holy shit.

Jonathan Howard
Jonathan Howard

How do you mean? Like a Fantasia/2000/The Prophet anthology type show where it's mostly segments of mostly unrelated more or less experimental animation?

That could be neat but I don't see it making money, and it would require a hell of a budget to even get off the ground.

Joseph Foster
Joseph Foster

No, it's Germany as what is going on in France is 20 time worse then what is going on in Canada and Ireland is too busy blowing Butch Hartman and Genndy Tartakovsky to do anything meaningful.

In short just move to 3DCG like a normal person and you will be much happier this way.
But those greats still had Americans involved, namely people like Tom Ruegger and Bruce Timm as their own content was not as good to say the least.
No, far from it.

Kevin Bennett
Kevin Bennett

France is pumping a tremendous number of good animator. Thing nobody knows is that they all end up in Pixar/Disney/Dreamworks because no publisher ever want to remotely fund something unknown or too adult/special or something. And when someone achieve something, the movie/cartoon tank because they spent all the money on actual animation rather than marketing.

Fucking hell, I was absolutly turbomad by the absolute absence of coverage for the Dofus movie. Lastman cartoon almost did not exist because their publisher dumped the creators at the last second.

This. Give me my fucking Metal Hurlant back.

I think there is one simple reason: Ankama don't have enough dosh to afford such a risky move.

Tintin
Luck Luke
Wakfu and Dofus
Oggy and the cockroaches
Oban

lmao

This. I watched it last month and I felt fucking ashamed for not knowing it before.

Plus, there is a lot of japanese artist who got inspired by Moebius' work.

Alexander Gonzalez
Alexander Gonzalez

Animators are now taking inspiration from anime rather than American animation. America has abandoned 2D animated movies and outsourced its TV animation to Asia decades ago. Anime has taken 2D animation and animation in general beyond anything America could even envision. The anime industry has about twice the output of America. There actually are cons for anime, all over the world. Not so much for American animation (at least I've never heard of any). So yeah, Japan has overtaken America.

Jacob Mitchell
Jacob Mitchell

Cauvin will eventually consume Stan Lee's soul.

Joshua Foster
Joshua Foster

I'm gonna have to end up learning French, won't I?
My ancestors would be ashamed. They're probably ashamed of all the 2D porn I've fapped to, though.

Cooper Taylor
Cooper Taylor

Or maybe they were fapping next to you?

Brody Wright
Brody Wright

Uhhh....

Sebastian Mitchell
Sebastian Mitchell

what is going on in France is 20 time worse then what is going on in Canada
How is that even close to being true when it comes to animation?
When did Canada make something like LastMan or Les Grandes Grandes Vacances?

Jaxson Miller
Jaxson Miller

I'm french and I'd rather not have our Cred Forums-related content be too big
Becoming number one also means having to produce massively
Let's stay in a position where we can produce innovative quality.

Noah Sullivan
Noah Sullivan

I think there is one simple reason: Ankama don't have enough dosh to afford such a risky move.
Wouldn't someone on the Anglophone market have to make the move to adapt them, rather than Ankama themselves? Isn't that how most BD makes it to foreign market?

Justin King
Justin King

Cauvin, Druillet, Peeters, Thilleux and Leloup will all die during your lifetime
I keep my fingers crossed that this happens after the Hergé heirs lose their shit when Tintin falls into public domains.
Nothing will make me as sad as knowing that Jean-Louis Pesch wll probably be dead within the next ten years

Henry Morales
Henry Morales

Not so much for American animation (at least I've never heard of any).
Really?

Christian Hernandez
Christian Hernandez

Also plenty of the newcomers are very inbred, so you're not actually doing the population any favours genetically by introducing them.
Well, introducing them prevents a population from becoming inbred themselves, and diversifies their own gene-pool to the advantage of their offspring. What's the problem?

Anthony Martin
Anthony Martin

youtube.com/watch?v=Q62RjHfX5yM

Andrew Parker
Andrew Parker

There actually are cons for anime, all over the world. Not so much for American animation

You share a website with a popular cartoon that has it's own board here. There are even MLP conventions in Japan.

Julian Lopez
Julian Lopez

Somebody pls shop his shirt to say 'je suis de Fantasio'

Landon Cox
Landon Cox

after the Hergé heirs lose their shit when Tintin falls into public domains.
Man, that's going to be awkward as fuck,

Thomas Phillips
Thomas Phillips

I cannot fucking wait. They've been such dicks about the whole thing, their tears are going to be absolutely delicious.

Jordan Perry
Jordan Perry

Yeah you're probably right, but nobody seems interested by their products. At least they're made their way to Netflix.

Druillet
the best artist I ever knew
Want to adapt the Divine Comedy
Will probably die soon because of drugs, cigarette and a fucklot of whiskey

why live.

Christopher Bell
Christopher Bell

Something from the last couple of years you numbnuts. Otherwise I'd have said The King and the Mockingbird or Fantastic Planet.

Eli Reyes
Eli Reyes

You're making it sound like that's bad.

Justin Gonzalez
Justin Gonzalez

sorry for the typos btw, it's quite late and I'm rather tired.

Luis James
Luis James

implying Druillet can even die
He'll just fly back into hyperspace and transcend the fabric of reality.

Brody Rodriguez
Brody Rodriguez

Invalid, you might as well bring up Ulysses 31 & Inspector Gadget at this point.

Angel James
Angel James

Superman, the greatest American hero and progenitor of all western superhero comics, was invented by Canadian immigrants to the United States
Tiny numbers of immigrants from one rich country to another, speaking the same language even, is the same as large masses of people with no skills who are hostile to the culture and form of government?

Hunter Myers
Hunter Myers

Intellectual property heirs are always a bunch of scumbags.

Josiah Richardson
Josiah Richardson

But... that's MY fucking point to you bringing up a fucking movie from 1983 to compare to TV series from 2015/16, you dense motherfucker. What has Canada done recently that justifies calling France's animation 20 times worse?

Owen Reyes
Owen Reyes

Really. I've never heard of them. Disney Expo isn't quite what we're talking about here.

Cons, not boards. And even in terms of internet communities and resources, American animation is on life support compared to anime. There may be MLP conventions (or a convention) in Japan but look at how many anime conventions were held in the US alone in 2016:
animecons.com/events/state.shtml/202016016

Even my small country has something like 30.

Nathaniel Perez
Nathaniel Perez

Fucking hell I hadn't realized how much he had actually done.
Bluecoats from the beginning to today
Cédric which is objectively and subjectively superior to Titeuf and Petit Spirou and that's a fact
L'homme aux phylactères
occasionnal Jess Long shorts
Sammy
Les Psy
Agent 212
all these collabs with Lambil
And he is still going.
It's honestly impressive.

Joshua Perry
Joshua Perry

How many levels of cultural Marxism are you on?

Asher Sullivan
Asher Sullivan

I don't know about your country but anime cons in mine have quickly devolved into general "nerdy shit" cons, I remember weebs getting mad about it. The most popular manga con in my region (Polymanga) had fucking Holly Mary Combs from the Charmed TV show as the headliner this year.
t. Switzerland.

Wyatt Adams
Wyatt Adams

general "nerdy shit" cons
They kinda have to if they want to be more than the local manga stores having their booths and being surrounded by counterfeight figurine sellers. It's hard to get guests from Japan aside from the really big cons and the range of possible events is pretty limited. Once you have a karaoke room or two, some pop quizzes, the weeb associations and forums having their get-together, you can't do much else if you limit yourself to japanese content.

Charles Lopez
Charles Lopez

I would say to look at Mexico

There's potential

Evan Jackson
Evan Jackson

90Albert Uderzo is 90 years old
I know he did some really bad Asterix story when he was alone, but I still will be sad when he will die.

Brayden Edwards
Brayden Edwards

Good people make bad decisions, that doesn't make them bad people.

Chase Mitchell
Chase Mitchell

My point was that the high number of "anime cons" doesn't necessarily represent the fan following in these countries, since most of those are anime cons by name only. It just happens that the manga craze of the 2000s is the vehicle cons have taken to flood Europe and South America (cons have been a thing in the US for way longer than they've read/watched nipshit).

Dominic Young
Dominic Young

What a shitty cover too.

Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

There are more general cons but judging by the descriptions these cons are indeed focused on anime/Japanese pop culture.

Owen Jackson
Owen Jackson

you can't do much else if you limit yourself to japanese content.
You never heard of the Paris Japan expo.

Isaiah Lewis
Isaiah Lewis

Sorry, but I can't see Germany becomming the next big thing. The networks aren't really that innovative and streaming services are too obsessed with jerking off the crime and mystery genre. Since animation is considered to be for kids, that naturally won't get mixed. And movies, well, they have potential but they will very likely be ruined by unfunny jokes, just like pretty much every German movie.

fAnd even if someone actually makes a good and successfull animated series, you can bet your ass that every network will rip it off make it's own knock-off, and they will always get shittier as time progresses. People who always mock the chinese for making shitty bootlegs propably never saw the evolution process of a successfull German show. Or it just dies straight away because it had 0.01% lower ratings than expected.

Juan Sanders
Juan Sanders

He literally said
It's hard to get guests from Japan aside from the really big cons
in the same fucking sentence.

Asher Taylor
Asher Taylor

no faithful anime adaptation, no scanlation, fucking expensive
I doubt it can work like manga did

Eli Martinez
Eli Martinez

Why not make awesome puppet theater shows or stop motion things like that Wes Anderson movie about dogs?

Ryan Thompson
Ryan Thompson

Nah, never heard of the con I've been to 7 times and has fuckloads of vidya, TV related content, the same web-creators every year and manages to get a lot of guests by being one of the biggest conventions on the continent.
It pretty much hasn't been limited to japanese content for a decade now. FFS at one point it was even coupled with Comic-Con Europe because that was the only way to keep it large enough to justify the location.
Oh, and it is still loaded with counterfeight sellers.

Ryan Young
Ryan Young

Not worth doing that for TV, France isn't as big on puppets as it used to be, and was never as good at stop motion as Brits.

Angel Williams
Angel Williams

The anime industry should be considered a fluke that's highly unlikely to be repeated anywhere else. Just having an animation industry to speak of is unusual, and even the American industry is a bit of a paper tiger since it relies so heavily on outsourcing and also benefits from American/English language cultural dominance.

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