>>Comments: "Disgusting" "Ripoff" "Wasn't that bad, but it's easy to tell how old people who say it's really good are" "stay the fuck out of SRW please" "The best robot anime were in the 80's" "Isn't the believe in me who believes in you thing a ripoff of Kamen Rider 555?"
>>"The so-called hotblood was too aimed for and badly written" "Throwing together tropes doesn't make a good show" "Only children like this rubbish" "I honestly found it boring" "Fake hotblood" "People say it's a homage but it's just a ripoff" "I don't think it's a ripoff, but the supposed hotbloodedness felt all wrong" "This is a parody right?" >>I hate how the retards who like this tend to make fun of the shows it's an homage to
>People like different things Congratulations on finding this out by yourself!
Dylan Morgan
TTGL is just a shitty kiddy ripoff of GaoGaiGar
But Cred Forums are a bunch of sissy sluts who only care about cock to know that.
Evan Roberts
>"Throwing together tropes doesn't make a good show" >"Only children like this rubbish" >"Wasn't that bad, but it's easy to tell how old people who say it's really good are"
They have a point though.
Nicholas Hill
Are you the same guy making multiple threads.
For fuck's sake.
Mason Hughes
Japan proves it has shit taste yet again.
Justin Cox
No, you prove that you're a gullible idiot yet again.
Jace Jackson
I for once am agreeing completely with the 11s
Luke Reyes
> Japanese fans have shit taste Isn't it written on page 2 of any textbook?
Samuel Johnson
Gurren Lagann, not so good
Carson Taylor
They're a bit too harsh, but they have the right idea.
Isaiah Flores
For a series centered around action there is a disappointing lack of good fights.
Caleb Wright
TTGL has a number of problems but elevens not liking it isn't indicative of anything. No one has worst taste than the Japanese.
Nicholas Martinez
how highly you rate TTGL is inversely proportional to how many super robot anime and manga you've actually watched and read
its an average super robot show carried by genre convention and a good soundtrack and seiyuu cast
Wyatt Johnson
The reason you didn't make this thread on /m/ is because people on /m/ actually speak moonrunes
Jason Perez
Sounds like a Jap SRW board, alright.
/m/ only has pipe dreams of being this bitter.
Evan Gonzalez
It was my first super robot show and I still thought it was average. It was pretty much worse than DBZ in every way except pacing and animation.
Jeremiah Robinson
Japan has shit taste. We've been over this at least 1000 times at this point.
Caleb Gonzalez
who cares
Yoko was a pretty good fap so I'm satisfied
Noah Howard
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Elijah James
>Nippons having bad taste Shit next you'll tell me anime and manga are their only worthwhile cultural exports.
Anthony Kelly
And good, unique animation. Ttgl is quite impressive in that regard, as well as having a literally theatrical quality final episode
Sebastian Rivera
Hilarious.
Japan, the country that actually experienced the genre all the way back to the 70s, are now accused of having shit taste for not liking a run of the mill super robot show.
The facts are pretty much on the table. Nakashima took all the plot points from Ken Ishikawa's Getter Robo Saga manga compilation and put it in a blender.
Oh wow, he was even the one in charge of compiling every Getter Robo entry for the futabasha edition.
Gee, I wonder why the nips feel that way about TTGL.
Ryan Rivera
Hey now. It's not just mecha that nips have shit taste in.
Brandon Ortiz
>Show heavily inspired by good show >Somehow isn't good ok
Landon Lee
You don't seem to get it do you? It's Cred Forums that has shit taste for liking a plebian anime like TTGL.
Aaron Evans
There are a lot of shows that I think I would hate if I watched it for the first time today rather than when I was an impressionable newfag. Clannad, for example, and I'm a huge Kyoanifag.
Easton Perry
And TTGL would be one of those shows*
Josiah Perry
Man Japan has some great taste.
Levi Jones
Nakashima was talking about the Getter Robo Saga manga compilation, which he worked as a chief editor on, not the anime.
Just because you're inspired, doesn't make your product good. Nips call TTGL fake hot blood.
After seeing other super robot shows, I can confirm. Other SR may not have as good animation or direction, but they were genuinely hot blooded. TTGL was manufactured hot blood. An over engineered product made for the masses.
It's pretty much the worst thing you can accuse a nekketsu show of being, not just super robots.
Josiah Campbell
TTGL rubs nips the wrong way for a simple reason. The show mocks the stupidity of previous past shows, but then is guilty of doing the same thing to advance its plot and characters.
That's what the guy who wrote this comment >I hate how the retards who like this tend to make fun of the shows it's an homage to
actually meant.
Jack Peterson
>kyoanifag Would you please fuck off, nice sir
Bentley Harris
Japs have shit taste in everything except food
Ian Hall
are you an idiot? do you think they understand any of our comments through machine translation?
Dylan Cooper
>manufactured hot-blood
This is so stupid. Just because it's a different type of hotblood from Getter Robo Go, for example, it doesn't mean it's fake/false/forces or whatever.
TTGL is a simple but well executed coming of age story that blends multiple classic mecha elements seemlessly. It's a parody and a love letter at the same time. It's just meant to be great fun and I understand that fun is subjective so opinions will always differ.
I just have no idea why some people get so butt-rustled over this anime.
Jose Morales
Why are you posting some video from 2007 with no comments on it I hate /m/ autists
James White
>It rips off kamen rider, therefore it is shit
Why the flying fuck was madoka so succesful then?
Alexander Sanders
>different type of hotblood from Getter Robo Go, Getter Robo Go didn't have much hot blood. In fact, it was a real robot series for nearly its entire magazine run. The ending was pretty much what TTGL took from, evolution.
Landon Young
Wasn't KLK also a Kamen Rider ripoff?
Jonathan Ortiz
Not really, but the plot was super generic.
Xavier Nelson
So I'm butt rustled because I didn't think it was anything special, or even fun?
I barely even remember TTGL. I only get reminded of it on Cred Forums, Otherwise I would have probably forgotten about it either way.
There's nothing much that stands out. The characters are paper thin archetypes, the story is generic for using evolution as its main theme, the action is really not good. I'm sorry. The amount of frames you put in the action doesn't change a single fact about the weak figh choreography.
Mecha fights are usually way more involved than two drills colliding, or other one shot attacks. In fact, this kind of fight is rather simplied and mundane, especially when you compare it even from a mecha show from the 70s, unless You're Godmars.
Yeah, Godmars is the only other mecha show I can think of that had worse choreography than TTGL.
Jeremiah Gomez
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Ethan Perez
even to a mecha show*
Ian Myers
Why does t feel like i'm reading somethign that was written by AI,are nips so devoid of personality?
Jose Morales
>Nips failing to understand that TTGL is the reconstruction to NGE's deconstruction
In a way, TTGL is the true End of Evangelion
Mason Hernandez
>user failing to realize that GaoGaiGar was a reconstruction to NGE's deconstruction In a way it's like none of you even watch anime.
Carter Lopez
Is it too late to nuke Japan again?
Ethan Reyes
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Chase Watson
what if I told you right now that I disagree with you and that I had fun watching it
what then
Nathan Ross
Yes,Japan should have been nuked in 2007 before this abomination was even created.
Mason Baker
You have been reading too much tv tropes, aren't you?
Carter Moore
what's tv tropes?
Leo Jenkins
>not a single JAM project song >no sideburns >no hot blooded yet cool commander/scientist >gattai sequences are infrequent >OP doesn't play during the battle in every episode >no unconventional weapons such as yo-yos or tops >not MotW >doesn't even have a rocket punch This isn't manime, this shit is for GIRLS.
Nicholas Foster
HAHAHA weebs absolutely BTFO. Even Japan realizes that anime is trash.
Andrew White
If they'd put all that stuff in their over-the-top suparobo parody they'd just have gotten Aquarion 2.0.
Christian Taylor
It's literally the same plot you guy. That's not "inspiration" anymore it's straight up a rip off no matter how you want to put it.
Samuel Lopez
I won't argue that TTGL is goat or anything, but Japan has notoriously shit taste.
Alexander Walker
so it's great is what you're saying
Dominic Rogers
I haven't read it in a while but I remember Go being hootblooded as fuck, both in and out of the Getter. Then you have niggas like Schwartz added to the mix too along with the battles intensity calling for more and more crazy shit before the dino empire are back everything goes nuts with Shin Getter.
I mean yeah, it's different from the first Getter manga but it's silly to say it's barely hotblooded. Also having super robots in a military organisation means the series is Real? Fuck man I dont even know.
Regardless, TTGL was inspired by multiple parts of the Getter Manga saga but did its own thing with it. Its clear because the Getter Emperor/Evolution dillema is executed wildly differently from the Spiral Nemesis.
Alright, the fight choreography might be weaker but that doesn't make the action any less fun. I'd call it very short and blunt action that gains its impact through good direction and animation. The same could be said for the characters which were rather simple but still had heart and a general human depth to them that kept them exciting. The story itself has actual elements of Nietzsche alongside its metaphor of evolution, both for the individual man and the human race. A very nice message of bettering one's self continuously rather than caving into nihilism and the tragedies the world tempts you with. I personally liked both the story and its characters, despite them not being anything groundbreaking.
Still, i'd like to know which TV mecha anime have great choreography since you've got me interested now.
Josiah Fisher
For an over the top show the characters are extremely tame. Thankfully Imaishi fixed that in KLK
Aaron King
MAL kiddies BTFO Watch a real hot blooded mecha anime faggots.
Jaxson Watson
The paradise of lazy writers and spoiler hell
Eli Smith
Legend of the Blue Wolves is such Kino.
Connor Evans
It's a fucking shame newfags refuse to experience patrician anime like this and MD Geist.
Adam Evans
>"Wasn't that bad, but it's easy to tell how old people who say it's really good are" I can agree with this.
Leo Sanchez
>Still, i'd like to know which TV mecha anime have great choreography since you've got me interested now. I don't know about great, but all the mecha shows I've seen so far had better choreography than TTGL.
I had fun too, but that fun lasted as long as the series. After that I just got back to my regular kind of shows without ever looking back. Like I said, I only remember TTGL because it's spammed on Cred Forums.
Parker Mitchell
>hot blooded mecha anime >only real robot
John Carter
>criticize a nine years old show
Easton Peterson
nevermind i completely forgot about legend of the blue wolves
such a classic
Dominic Perry
Tell me, Cred Forums. TTGL is in my top three. How old do you think I am?
I've also been here since 2006. Now, how old do you really think I am?
I just wanted some examples of those mecha series, man.
Daniel Rivera
>complimenting seventeen year old shows
Colton Torres
i meant fun beyond the episodes, fun as it lasted, but overall, i don't think the series was fun enough
Ryder Hernandez
This whole shit is retarded, tell me Cred Forums, do we really care about japan's opinion?
Brandon Rodriguez
people with hyper-specialized taste, down to rejecting a show based on whether the love interest is oppai or pettanko, don't like a show geared towards normies?!
color me surprised
Mason Diaz
actually now i remember. the fun was for the first arc. it was only like a few episodes.
the show was ultra boring post time skip
Alexander Hughes
>I just wanted some examples of those mecha series, man. mazinger z, gundam (all of them), all of votoms, all of pretty much everything i watched
Ryan Gomez
Shin Mazinger had hands down the best narrator in all anime
Fafner Exodus has some pretty fucking great fights.You have to watch the less good first season, and really good movie/OVA first.
Camden Ward
Aquarion > TTGL
Kevin Garcia
But Japanese Moot said TTGL is best anime
Isaac Robinson
What's wrong with paying homage? Star Wars OT is an homage to B sci-fi, but it's easily one of the greatest films of its decade. I don't think referencing or having inspiration from another source makes something poor by default.
Besides that TTGL has some good qualities like its animation, sound/music, etc. even if you didn't like the story or characters. It certainly is better in those areas than works it references.
Sounds like some old hipster nips that are butthurt that their shit became mainstream. I say that as a 30 year old who is pretty fucking hipster about stupid shit.
>1970s mecha schlock? Correct. 1970s toei mecha schlock had better choreography than TTGL. Pretty shocking I know, but it's the truth.
Camden Collins
It's ending was strangely similar to Kamen Rider OOO's ending
Jaxon Wright
Votoms Giant Robo Layzner Getter Robo Armageddon
Just to name a few
Bentley Lewis
TTGL should have ended with the Lordgenome arc. It goes straight to shit after the timeskip. There's only so much "believe in yourself" asspulls you can do before it just becomes annoying.
Jeremiah Ross
Sounds like /m/.
Michael Lopez
How many do you have to watch? I've seen a dozen or more. Most mecha is shit and TTGL was one of the only ones I thought was watchable.
Adrian Flores
>18 years later >there still isn't a mecha fight as good as this
nah I like the hobo ending, its a good allegory for what happened to gainax.
Landon Myers
I have a confession to make, I use to troll Gurren Laggan threads back in the day then years later I decide to watch on the fly, turns on I actually liked it a lot, kind of regret not watching it sooner and being part of the discussion that wasnt trolling.
Asher Diaz
Maybe if boring one sided fights are your thing, and you're 12, it's the only way TTGL is enjoyable.
TTGL isn't even watchable anymore. I tried re-watching the series and I cringed so hard. Not even Naruto made me cringe that hard.
Hunter Mitchell
>Most mecha is shit and TTGL was one of the only ones I thought was watchable way to out yourself as a man with shit taste.
Nicholas Bailey
He didn't say Mecha, he said super robot. I doubt you've seen over a dozen.
Brandon Cruz
doesn't /m/ say shit like this anyway?
Josiah Gomez
>There's only so much "believe in yourself" asspulls you can do before it just becomes annoying.
isn't one piece still running and successful as fuck
isn't that series essentially what you just said but extended for like 80 volumes
Carson Morales
Toeizinger had quite bad choreography, much worse than TTGL i'm afraid.
UC Gundam and Votoms have decent choreography but they are real robot.
Nope. I prefer Toeizinger. At least they're fighting, not just having boring collision fights where one overpowers their opponent and that's it.
It's literally the worst way to do mecha. TTGL is like a modern version of Godmars in terms of choreography.
Aiden Ortiz
is this now a thing? not TTGL is bad? wow, i guess i have to change my mind.
Thomas Phillips
Armageddon was shit after episode 3. Even the battles felt poorly put together despite being cool on paper.
Robert Brooks
month ago?
Joseph Fisher
oh here comes the imagawa cocksucker
>Even the battles felt poorly put together then you probably need better eyes.
look to ttgl if you want poorly put together battles
Jason Rodriguez
i guess, bleach ending just left me in a weird place, i dont think i can follow shonen series anymore.
Austin Carter
just further driving home the point that the japanese have shit taste I guess
Daniel Anderson
Every time
Charles Hughes
TTGL's choreography was terrible. absolutely terrible. the battles were all poorly thought out. they were more flash than actual substantial hand to hand fighting.
Ayden Kelly
You should since you enjoy the garbage cartoons they produce.
Jose Turner
>half the comments are positive and half are negative >I'll just cherry pick the negative ones to make it sound like there's a consensus
ugh
Lucas Rivera
Japanese aren't the only ones eating up One Piece. I'd even go as far as say that TTGL fans in the west are likely One Piece fans as well.
Zachary Foster
Its not that the choreography is terrible (and stop it with the shitty buzzword) its just that the battles were completely one sided and fails to create any tension in the show. Especially when asspulls are involved. Some of the antagonists were strategists and had well thought out plans but only lost because Simon just pulls something out of his ass.
That being said, episode 8 fucking nailed it. Its a shame the rest of the show just couldn't live up to it.
Thomas King
Literally every argument since the dawn of Cred Forums. There is no middle ground, just extremes.
I enjoy SOME of them, i dont watch every shit that comes from japan, just the ones that seem interesting, if you follow popular opinion then i guess you think one piece is a masterpiece and cowboy bebop is shit
Aaron Thompson
What does Kino's Journey have to do with Blue Wolves?
Jordan Turner
It's actually the opposite. Too much of shonen is partially — or wholly — shonenshit for ten year olds (and manchildren) because of marketing reasons and lack of creativity. Gurren-Lagann resurrects the passion in those old and worn out fables about good and evil.
Joshua Turner
>Watch TTGL while lifting >Gain 2x modifier to motivation gains
Thank you based drill god.
Henry Watson
> making art into utility Disgusting.
Blake Adams
>being able to watch something while lifting I bet you sit on a machine and lift small weights you fucking manlet
Christopher Ramirez
Cowboy Bebop was always garbage.
Lucas Barnes
>Wasting your boiled blood Sickening.
I don't have a machine in my home you dummy it's biceps and shoulders day, my head is free.
Austin Miller
>my head is free.
Thomas Young
How do I start watching more manly robot shows?
Brayden Campbell
>muh retro mecha >muh kamen rider
Those comments sound like they come from bunch of butthurt /m/fags. Anyway, nobody is surprised that Japan has shit taste.
Gavin Morales
Then what is a good series in your opinion oh wise user?
Charles Gutierrez
Understand that many shows have tight budgets so you can't be a fucking animation snob who prioritizes pretty images over good story. Gainax prioritized pretty graphics over good story and it died. Bones prioritizes pretty graphics over good story and it makes forgettable trash constantly.
Also you have to not get turned off by homolust because it's only homolust in your perverted western vision. It's being comrades
Camden Morales
>He lifts barbells with his neck
Must cost a fortune in medical bills.
Jonathan Bennett
>it's only homolust in your perverted western vision >Western What? Fujos in Japan are all over mecha.
Sebastian Garcia
cool. Going to /m/ now.
Daniel Morris
Mecha fujos are more into real robot
Amuro/char, jesus/assram, slaine/inaho, graham/setsuna, etc.
Nolan Gutierrez
>people not realizing that Cred Forums has always been a copy of these people >implying casuals didn't love TTGL in Japan too
Julian Brown
So they have the same opinion as Cred Forums, whoop de fucking do.
Adam Johnson
But is choreography the only characteristic that matters? I'm not really disputing your claim. I've never compared the choreography.
I'm not sure it would even matter, TTGL is like a power-up battle shounen where the humans are replaced with robots. The movement and animation are far more like DBZ than Mazinger or Getter. (At least based on what I remember, it's been a few years.)
Votoms I will definitely give you. I do like Votoms. And I would like to see how good GR Armageddon is.
But why can't all of those be good AND TTGL be good. Why does one exclude the other?
James Roberts
Just typical contrarians like the ones you'd fine in Cred Forums
Juan Cox
>slaine/inaho Was A/Z even popular enough for that to be a major example?
Austin Lopez
>Japan has shit taste Tell me something I don't know.
Carson Cruz
>elevens Racist.
Ethan Hall
>i have never seen the things it ripped off so it's good typical MAL kid excuses when their world comes crashing down
Jaxson Ross
Is my memory wrong or was there actual strong dissent towards this show while it was airing?
Samuel Taylor
>japan plebs under constant doses of radiation for decades >quoting any of them as though their opinion matters baka.
Isaac Peterson
>Ken Ishikawa is dead
Getterfags BTFO
Logan Robinson
>Gainax is dead
TTGLfags BTFO
Dylan Carter
What gives you the impression a 2007 series has more similar choreography to their contemporaries?
Jack Garcia
It was the kill la kill of its time.
Jace Kelly
nips have shit taste in everything.
Connor Diaz
not really
Austin Hall
My main problem with TTGL is that the pacing in the second half just blows. It's just one "epic" thing after another with no real time to let things settle in.
Oh, look, it got an upgrade. Now it's a bigger upgrade. Now it's an even BIGGER upgrade.
Hudson Green
Fair enough, but either way, comradery being gay is not some Western cultural thing.
Blake Johnson
Are you a reyfag?
Carter Rodriguez
I've been here since 2006. I'm also the same age. I don't know if I'd put TTGL in my top three robot shows, let alone top three anime. But you're welcome to your preferences. I can only imagine your nationality, let alone your whole life experience.
Oliver Parker
Nips on point as usual when it comes to mecha.
Ayden Diaz
>Gundam SEED Destiny being the second best selling mecha of all time >on point
James Nelson
Nips so buttblasted. Really makes you think how shitty their taste are. I mean Getter was and will always be shit in comparison. Literally horrible designs, can't stand watching it. It's like One Piece with that shitty fucking design. This is the people that gave awards to shit like Madoka and Evangelion. People who actually think that Japs have good taste must be retarded. If they did, we wouldn't have Idol anime and more than 5 cute girls doing cute things anime
Lucas Hughes
>Oh, look, it got an upgrade. Now it's a bigger upgrade. Now it's an even BIGGER upgrade. That's the joke, user.
Ayden Nelson
SEED is just too deep for us gaijins the intricate plot is lost on translation
David Scott
The only good mecha anime Is Valverape. Anything else is trash,
Brody Lewis
Gotta agree with I like good-evil stories where the good guys win. I get enough edgy gray morality bombarding me from all sides in both anime and from film/TV. I've been watching "edgy gray morality" for 25 years now. I'm pretty sick of it.
Oliver Watson
I wasn't a Western cultural thing either until 20-30 years ago. It's a subversive Marxist thing.
James Moore
Japs having shit taste never gets old.
They do have a point - Gurren-laggan is oversimplified, both in animation, plot and characters. It has filler episodes for seemingly no apparent reason, overly fast tone shifts, (aside from 5-6 main leads) no developed cast. Choreography was terreble, action looked like a powerpoint presentation, but the problem-tention-resolve ep structure always delivered.
But, for me atleast, it all boils down to TTGL's runtime. If it had more episodes (Or 6(first arc)-12ep OVAs), bigger budget, then we could've had a masterpice. Just look at the "Parallel works(2)" shorts for scrapped ideas, or other Gainax projects with big budgets and low time constrains.
TL;DR - Japs have shit taste but TTGL is far from great.
Jackson Perez
most people in japan don't even like anime, they think it's weird and annoying. japanese anime kids are just contrarians
Jaxson Baker
What do you base that on? Everything I've seen is the majority are ambivalent at worst. Most people will name One Piece or something else that they follow or went to see at the movies.
Angel Gutierrez
I think he means like following seasonal moe shoes and shit
Ryder Nelson
>Idolshit >shounenshit >moeshit
It saddens me that cancer is so prevalent in this medium.
Isaac Thomas
>it's average >it' worse than shit pick one
William Murphy
I'm with you, bro. Watched it only a few months back - mecha isn't really my thing - but I had a whale of a time watching it.
I'm not going to try to claim it's excellent, but I had a whole lot of fun watching it.
Thank you 4ch for reminding me that I am not a robot.
Angel Gray
This. Fukuda's personally-composed, poetic Japanese dialogue slipped through the translator's hands like cherry blossoms or the fresh snow of Fuji.
Jayden Barnes
>Godmars is the only other mecha show I can think of that had worse choreography than TTGL Holy shit, Godmars is complete trash compared to TTGL
Tyler Reed
Not really, theyre both trash
Andrew James
>Eva reaction image The fucking irony
Isaac Parker
Still sold 30k
Julian Green
Naruto sells much higher than that, your point?
Hudson Edwards
>>I hate how the retards who like this tend to make fun of the shows it's an homage to Do people really do this? That's incredibly retarded.
Christopher Lee
Forced hot blood
Juan Moore
>The only good mecha anime Is Valverape. That's not Cross Ange
Elijah Ortiz
Who gives a shit about what Elevens say? I loved TTGL and there's nothing you can do about it
Austin Wilson
There was always a lot of old mecha shows on late night tv I was younger but I hated the majority of it till gurren lagann and code geass, they can stay butthurt.